If rangers and celtic (and aberdeen) keep picking up euro coefficient points 
and we move up the coefficient tables - anybody got any idea when Scotland 
gets another uefa cup place?

brilliant defensive performance tonight - organisation and committment was 
unbelievable. Apart from a couple of lapses by Papac, the back four were 
immense and didn't put a foot wrong. I was speaking to a guy connected to 
Ibrox who says that the Lazio bid for Hutton was serious and was for £5m - 
twice that wouldn't buy him now.

"FishSupper"  wrote in message
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> If rangers and celtic (and aberdeen) keep picking up euro coefficient
> points and we move up the coefficient tables - anybody got any idea when
> Scotland gets another uefa cup place?
>
> brilliant defensive performance tonight - organisation and committment was
> unbelievable. Apart from a couple of lapses by Papac, the back four were
> immense and didn't put a foot wrong. I was speaking to a guy connected to
> Ibrox who says that the Lazio bid for Hutton was serious and was for £5m -
> twice that wouldn't buy him now.

Great result for Rangers, hoping my lot can do something tomorrow.
Regarding the co-efficients, Scotland are lying 4th for this season
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/ccoef2008.html)
whilst Rangers are 4th in Europe for this year behind Arsenal, man U, Barca
(was looking at this earlier tonight, can post a link if needed).  Need to
look up the UEFA site to see when we get another team. I hope we don't get
one too soon as all points accrued are averaged (see the link).

i.e. If we had another UEFA slot and they went out in the qualifying, our
average point rating would drop to 4, taking us from 4th to joint 9th for
this season. The last 5 years averages are averaged to give a co-efficient
rating for the country(see bottom of the linked page).

Hope this helps.

"FishSupper"  wrote in message 
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> If rangers and celtic (and aberdeen) keep picking up euro coefficient 
> points and we move up the coefficient tables - anybody got any idea when 
> Scotland gets another uefa cup place?
>
> brilliant defensive performance tonight - organisation and committment was 
> unbelievable. Apart from a couple of lapses by Papac, the back four were 
> immense and didn't put a foot wrong. I was speaking to a guy connected to 
> Ibrox who says that the Lazio bid for Hutton was serious and was for £5m - 
> twice that wouldn't buy him now.

Great result for Rangers, hoping my lot can do something tomorrow.
Regarding the co-efficients, Scotland are lying 4th for this season 
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/ccoef2008.html) 
whilst Rangers are 4th in Europe for this year behind Arsenal, man U, Barca 
(was looking at this earlier tonight, can post a link if needed).  Need to 
look up the UEFA site to see when we get another team. I hope we don't get 
one too soon as all points accrued are averaged (see the link).

i.e. If we had another UEFA slot and they went out in the qualifying, our 
average point rating would drop to 4, taking us from 4th to joint 9th for 
this season. The last 5 years averages are averaged to give a co-efficient 
rating for the country(see bottom of the linked page).

Hope this helps.

JHF wrote:
> "FishSupper"  wrote in message
> news:H-CdnWE0ntdl94PaRVnyhAA@bt.com...
>> If rangers and celtic (and aberdeen) keep picking up euro coefficient
>> points and we move up the coefficient tables - anybody got any idea
>> when Scotland gets another uefa cup place?
>>
>> brilliant defensive performance tonight - organisation and
>> committment was unbelievable. Apart from a couple of lapses by
>> Papac, the back four were immense and didn't put a foot wrong. I was
>> speaking to a guy connected to Ibrox who says that the Lazio bid for
>> Hutton was serious and was for £5m - twice that wouldn't buy him now.
>
> Great result for Rangers, hoping my lot can do something tomorrow.
> Regarding the co-efficients, Scotland are lying 4th for this season
> (http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/ccoef2008.html)
> whilst Rangers are 4th in Europe for this year behind Arsenal, man U,
> Barca (was looking at this earlier tonight, can post a link if
> needed).  Need to look up the UEFA site to see when we get another
> team. I hope we don't get one too soon as all points accrued are
> averaged (see the link).
> i.e. If we had another UEFA slot and they went out in the qualifying,
> our average point rating would drop to 4, taking us from 4th to joint
> 9th for this season. The last 5 years averages are averaged to give a
> co-efficient rating for the country(see bottom of the linked page).
>
> Hope this helps.

Yes, didn't someone post a link to an article about this recently?
Our co-efficient is hampered by the likes of hearts/dunfermline/raith/etc 
getting a place in europe and buggering it up.

I think though that we have declined a place in uefa cup for our domestic 
cup winners now, which might help a bit, seeing as it is usually won by the 
1st 2nd or 3rd placed team, enabling the 'other' finalist (nomatter where 
they lie in the league or outwith it[SPL]) entry.

biz

"JHF"  wrote in message 
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>
> "FishSupper"  wrote in message 
> news:H-CdnWE0ntdl94PaRVnyhAA@bt.com...
>> If rangers and celtic (and aberdeen) keep picking up euro coefficient 
>> points and we move up the coefficient tables - anybody got any idea when 
>> Scotland gets another uefa cup place?
>>
>> brilliant defensive performance tonight - organisation and committment 
>> was unbelievable. Apart from a couple of lapses by Papac, the back four 
>> were immense and didn't put a foot wrong. I was speaking to a guy 
>> connected to Ibrox who says that the Lazio bid for Hutton was serious and 
>> was for £5m - twice that wouldn't buy him now.
>
> Great result for Rangers, hoping my lot can do something tomorrow.
> Regarding the co-efficients, Scotland are lying 4th for this season 
> (http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/ccoef2008.html) 
> whilst Rangers are 4th in Europe for this year behind Arsenal, man U, 
> Barca (was looking at this earlier tonight, can post a link if needed). 
> Need to look up the UEFA site to see when we get another team. I hope we 
> don't get one too soon as all points accrued are averaged (see the link).
>
> i.e. If we had another UEFA slot and they went out in the qualifying, our 
> average point rating would drop to 4, taking us from 4th to joint 9th for 
> this season. The last 5 years averages are averaged to give a co-efficient 
> rating for the country(see bottom of the linked page).
>
> Hope this helps.

Cheers mate, much appreciated - great link as well.

Take the point about an extra team maybe doing us damage BUT if Hibs 
continue to improve we'd have a team that could potentially get a good few 
points for us in Europe and both Hearts and Aberdeen could do the same. And, 
of course, more exposure to european football will improve the overall 
standard.

What we have got to stop doing is allowing diddy teams getting into Europe 
because they were Scottish Cup runners up. if you win the cup, fine. If you 
don't and the winners are the SPL champs, then the UEFA cup spot should be 
awarded by league placings. Gretna and Dunfermline have done us no good at 
all.

" \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/"  wrote in message 
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> JHF wrote:
>> "FishSupper"  wrote in message
>> news:H-CdnWE0ntdl94PaRVnyhAA@bt.com...
>>> If rangers and celtic (and aberdeen) keep picking up euro coefficient
>>> points and we move up the coefficient tables - anybody got any idea
>>> when Scotland gets another uefa cup place?
>>>
>>> brilliant defensive performance tonight - organisation and
>>> committment was unbelievable. Apart from a couple of lapses by
>>> Papac, the back four were immense and didn't put a foot wrong. I was
>>> speaking to a guy connected to Ibrox who says that the Lazio bid for
>>> Hutton was serious and was for £5m - twice that wouldn't buy him now.
>>
>> Great result for Rangers, hoping my lot can do something tomorrow.
>> Regarding the co-efficients, Scotland are lying 4th for this season
>> (http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/ccoef2008.html)
>> whilst Rangers are 4th in Europe for this year behind Arsenal, man U,
>> Barca (was looking at this earlier tonight, can post a link if
>> needed).  Need to look up the UEFA site to see when we get another
>> team. I hope we don't get one too soon as all points accrued are
>> averaged (see the link).
>> i.e. If we had another UEFA slot and they went out in the qualifying,
>> our average point rating would drop to 4, taking us from 4th to joint
>> 9th for this season. The last 5 years averages are averaged to give a
>> co-efficient rating for the country(see bottom of the linked page).
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>
> Yes, didn't someone post a link to an article about this recently?
> Our co-efficient is hampered by the likes of hearts/dunfermline/raith/etc 
> getting a place in europe and buggering it up.
>
> I think though that we have declined a place in uefa cup for our domestic 
> cup winners now,

Have we? I thought it was only "declined" to beaten finalists?

FishSupper wrote:
> If rangers and celtic (and aberdeen) keep picking up euro coefficient
> points and we move up the coefficient tables - anybody got any idea
> when Scotland gets another uefa cup place?
>

I think we are a ways off that and it's the last thing we need the way the
system works, it would be a poisoned chalice IMO.  Getting the SPL champions
automatic entry is the realistic goal.

Moody Marco wrote:
> " \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/"  wrote in message
> news:I56dnfP1FcFn54PaRVnyuQA@bt.com...
>> JHF wrote:
>>> "FishSupper"  wrote in message
>>> news:H-CdnWE0ntdl94PaRVnyhAA@bt.com...
>>>> If rangers and celtic (and aberdeen) keep picking up euro
>>>> coefficient points and we move up the coefficient tables - anybody
>>>> got any idea when Scotland gets another uefa cup place?
>>>>
>>>> brilliant defensive performance tonight - organisation and
>>>> committment was unbelievable. Apart from a couple of lapses by
>>>> Papac, the back four were immense and didn't put a foot wrong. I
>>>> was speaking to a guy connected to Ibrox who says that the Lazio
>>>> bid for Hutton was serious and was for £5m - twice that wouldn't
>>>> buy him now.
>>>
>>> Great result for Rangers, hoping my lot can do something tomorrow.
>>> Regarding the co-efficients, Scotland are lying 4th for this season
>>> (http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/ccoef2008.html)
>>> whilst Rangers are 4th in Europe for this year behind Arsenal, man
>>> U, Barca (was looking at this earlier tonight, can post a link if
>>> needed).  Need to look up the UEFA site to see when we get another
>>> team. I hope we don't get one too soon as all points accrued are
>>> averaged (see the link).
>>> i.e. If we had another UEFA slot and they went out in the
>>> qualifying, our average point rating would drop to 4, taking us
>>> from 4th to joint 9th for this season. The last 5 years averages
>>> are averaged to give a co-efficient rating for the country(see
>>> bottom of the linked page). Hope this helps.
>>
>> Yes, didn't someone post a link to an article about this recently?
>> Our co-efficient is hampered by the likes of
>> hearts/dunfermline/raith/etc getting a place in europe and buggering
>> it up. I think though that we have declined a place in uefa cup for our
>> domestic cup winners now,
>
> Have we? I thought it was only "declined" to beaten finalists?

That sounds more plausible, so probably your right.