Ain't looking forward to this season,signings aren't up to spec the same as 
others as far as I can see.Even Keane has pulled the stops out,all we have 
from Ashley is to get the wage bill down,sell Smith[which may be right if he 
authorizes a better replacement with cash] but I don't see it.
If we finish mid table I'd be surprised and Kevin may walk before then
Best bet is a massive take over from abroad and to inject some real cash for 
real  top players.
If Owen/Martins/Viduka[don't think so] fire up we may have a chance and if 
Milner/Z'ogbia/Duff go on fire also, but it's a tall order.
Don't look like a happy,eager club to me from the manager/owner down.
Watched them since a boy in '51[apart from Service spell]but this looks 
gloomy to me.
Hope I'm wrong.

"shipwreck"  wrote in message 
news:489d9b17_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> Ain't looking forward to this season,signings aren't up to spec the same 
> as others as far as I can see.Even Keane has pulled the stops out,all we 
> have from Ashley is to get the wage bill down,sell Smith[which may be 
> right if he authorizes a better replacement with cash] but I don't see it.
> If we finish mid table I'd be surprised and Kevin may walk before then
> Best bet is a massive take over from abroad and to inject some real cash 
> for real  top players.
> If Owen/Martins/Viduka[don't think so] fire up we may have a chance and if 
> Milner/Z'ogbia/Duff go on fire also, but it's a tall order.
> Don't look like a happy,eager club to me from the manager/owner down.
> Watched them since a boy in '51[apart from Service spell]but this looks 
> gloomy to me.
> Hope I'm wrong.

Don't look to good for the TGB's

Wise will be in charge soon

On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:26:43 +0100, "shipwreck"
 wrote:

>Ain't looking forward to this season,signings aren't up to spec the same as 
>others as far as I can see.Even Keane has pulled the stops out,all we have 
>from Ashley is to get the wage bill down,sell Smith[which may be right if he 
>authorizes a better replacement with cash] but I don't see it.
>If we finish mid table I'd be surprised and Kevin may walk before then
>Best bet is a massive take over from abroad and to inject some real cash for 
>real  top players.
>If Owen/Martins/Viduka[don't think so] fire up we may have a chance and if 
>Milner/Z'ogbia/Duff go on fire also, but it's a tall order.
>Don't look like a happy,eager club to me from the manager/owner down.
>Watched them since a boy in '51[apart from Service spell]but this looks 
>gloomy to me.
>Hope I'm wrong. 

what exactly is wrong with the signings so far then?

guttierez and guthrie both look like good captures to me, and i'd
rather thave them in my side than diouf and malbranque.

coloccini or chimbonda? tough one to call there, i think not. World
class international centre half, or a moaning journeyman? 

to be fair, the signings haven't been flowing very fast, but the
quality of player we've brought in so far seems pretty good to me.

the players all look like theyre enjoying life at the club at the
minute too, which didnt seem to be the case 9 months ago.

not expecting a massive rise up the table, but we'll do a hell of a
lot better than last year, that's for certain.
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"shipwreck"  wrote in message 
news:489d9b17_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> Ain't looking forward to this season,signings aren't up to spec the same 
> as others as far as I can see.Even Keane has pulled the stops out,all we 
> have from Ashley is to get the wage bill down,sell Smith[which may be 
> right if he authorizes a better replacement with cash] but I don't see it.
> If we finish mid table I'd be surprised and Kevin may walk before then
> Best bet is a massive take over from abroad and to inject some real cash 
> for real  top players.
> If Owen/Martins/Viduka[don't think so] fire up we may have a chance and if 
> Milner/Z'ogbia/Duff go on fire also, but it's a tall order.
> Don't look like a happy,eager club to me from the manager/owner down.
> Watched them since a boy in '51[apart from Service spell]but this looks 
> gloomy to me.
> Hope I'm wrong.

"Eyan The Mackem (oo)"  wrote in message 
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>
>
> Don't look to good for the TGB's
>
> Wise will be in charge soon

"Chris F"  wrote in message 
news:ca3s94162stosfep4ujc1p00enba1ealci@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:26:43 +0100, "shipwreck"
>  wrote:
>

> what exactly is wrong with the signings so far then?
>
> guttierez and guthrie both look like good captures to me, and i'd
> rather thave them in my side than diouf and malbranque.
>

Guttierez? Unknown Argentine signed from Spanish 1st division club. 
Apparently not scared of the biting North Sea wind... Tell me where you got 
Marcelino from?

Guthrie? Unproven  Liverpool reserve player?

Did not see the usual toon army gathering outside St Jimmies welcoming 
them..

Diouf and Malbrangue? Yer having a laugh Chris. Surely!


> coloccini or chimbonda? tough one to call there, i think not. World
> class international centre half, or a moaning journeyman?

Coloccini? 30 odd caps for is country, not bad but world class? I'd never 
heard of him. He aint signed yet?

Chimbonda... Wisey tried to nick him before he signed...


> not expecting a massive rise up the table, but we'll do a hell of a
> lot better than last year, that's for certain.

Note the comparison with Sunderland signings...

Like most mags now, rather than aim for top 4 or UEFA cup they just wanna 
finish above Sunderland. Oh what a come down eh!

Crossposted... Hopefully to fuel a bit debate..

My opinion....

Bottom half finish for the big three...
Boro survive relegation only because ov the shite thats come up...
Keegan gone before Santa comes...

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:36:14 +0100, "Eyan The Mackem \(oo\)"
 wrote:

>
>"shipwreck"  wrote in message 
>news:489d9b17_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> Ain't looking forward to this season,signings aren't up to spec the same 
>> as others as far as I can see.Even Keane has pulled the stops out,all we 
>> have from Ashley is to get the wage bill down,sell Smith[which may be 
>> right if he authorizes a better replacement with cash] but I don't see it.
>> If we finish mid table I'd be surprised and Kevin may walk before then
>> Best bet is a massive take over from abroad and to inject some real cash 
>> for real  top players.
>> If Owen/Martins/Viduka[don't think so] fire up we may have a chance and if 
>> Milner/Z'ogbia/Duff go on fire also, but it's a tall order.
>> Don't look like a happy,eager club to me from the manager/owner down.
>> Watched them since a boy in '51[apart from Service spell]but this looks 
>> gloomy to me.
>> Hope I'm wrong.
>
>"Eyan The Mackem (oo)"  wrote in message 
>news:6g5lskFe6a2iU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>
>> Don't look to good for the TGB's
>>
>> Wise will be in charge soon
>
>"Chris F"  wrote in message 
>news:ca3s94162stosfep4ujc1p00enba1ealci@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:26:43 +0100, "shipwreck"
>>  wrote:
>>
>
>> what exactly is wrong with the signings so far then?
>>
>> guttierez and guthrie both look like good captures to me, and i'd
>> rather thave them in my side than diouf and malbranque.
>>
>
>Guttierez? Unknown Argentine signed from Spanish 1st division club. 
>Apparently not scared of the biting North Sea wind... Tell me where you got 
>Marcelino from?
>
>Guthrie? Unproven  Liverpool reserve player?
>
>Did not see the usual toon army gathering outside St Jimmies welcoming 
>them..
>
>Diouf and Malbrangue? Yer having a laugh Chris. Surely!
>
>
>> coloccini or chimbonda? tough one to call there, i think not. World
>> class international centre half, or a moaning journeyman?
>
>Coloccini? 30 odd caps for is country, not bad but world class? I'd never 
>heard of him. He aint signed yet?
>
>Chimbonda... Wisey tried to nick him before he signed...
>
>
>> not expecting a massive rise up the table, but we'll do a hell of a
>> lot better than last year, that's for certain.
>
>Note the comparison with Sunderland signings...
>
>Like most mags now, rather than aim for top 4 or UEFA cup they just wanna 
>finish above Sunderland. Oh what a come down eh!
>
>Crossposted... Hopefully to fuel a bit debate..
>
>My opinion....
>
>Bottom half finish for the big three...
>Boro survive relegation only because ov the shite thats come up...
>Keegan gone before Santa comes...
>
>
i merely compared them to sunderland's signings because thats what
shipwreck used as his reference point.

having seen gutierrez play a few games he looks like he could be
pretty handy, and as for coloccini, having 30-ish caps for argentina,
being regarded as one of the best centre halves in the spanish league,
does, imo, make him pretty much world class.

keane just seems to have signed players he'd like to have a fight
with.

i mean diouf is hardly brilliant, he had bags of potential but he's
just turned into a pretty average p[remiership player during his time
at bolton, and chimbonda just doesn't impress me, and never has.

i'd be surprised if he's there still for the 2009/10 season, he'll
have found another reason to moan and move again by then.

i actually think we'll both finish around about mid-table, creeping
into the top half,and boro will be the poorest relations in the
league.

keegan sacked or quitting before christmas? about as likely as Hull
city staying in the prem.

but hey, if you're happy with your lot buying spurs' castoffs fair
enough, but i wouldnt be.
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"Chris F"  wrote in message 
news:3gst94lau82ae08drb7cgs5m2us9lq7919@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:36:14 +0100, "Eyan The Mackem \(oo\)"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"shipwreck"  wrote in message
>>news:489d9b17_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>> Ain't looking forward to this season,signings aren't up to spec the same
>>> as others as far as I can see.Even Keane has pulled the stops out,all we
>>> have from Ashley is to get the wage bill down,sell Smith[which may be
>>> right if he authorizes a better replacement with cash] but I don't see 
>>> it.
>>> If we finish mid table I'd be surprised and Kevin may walk before then
>>> Best bet is a massive take over from abroad and to inject some real cash
>>> for real  top players.
>>> If Owen/Martins/Viduka[don't think so] fire up we may have a chance and 
>>> if
>>> Milner/Z'ogbia/Duff go on fire also, but it's a tall order.
>>> Don't look like a happy,eager club to me from the manager/owner down.
>>> Watched them since a boy in '51[apart from Service spell]but this looks
>>> gloomy to me.
>>> Hope I'm wrong.
>>
>>"Eyan The Mackem (oo)"  wrote in message
>>news:6g5lskFe6a2iU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't look to good for the TGB's
>>>
>>> Wise will be in charge soon
>>
>>"Chris F"  wrote in message
>>news:ca3s94162stosfep4ujc1p00enba1ealci@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:26:43 +0100, "shipwreck"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> what exactly is wrong with the signings so far then?
>>>
>>> guttierez and guthrie both look like good captures to me, and i'd
>>> rather thave them in my side than diouf and malbranque.
>>>
>>
>>Guttierez? Unknown Argentine signed from Spanish 1st division club.
>>Apparently not scared of the biting North Sea wind... Tell me where you 
>>got
>>Marcelino from?
>>
>>Guthrie? Unproven  Liverpool reserve player?
>>
>>Did not see the usual toon army gathering outside St Jimmies welcoming
>>them..
>>
>>Diouf and Malbrangue? Yer having a laugh Chris. Surely!
>>
>>
>>> coloccini or chimbonda? tough one to call there, i think not. World
>>> class international centre half, or a moaning journeyman?
>>
>>Coloccini? 30 odd caps for is country, not bad but world class? I'd never
>>heard of him. He aint signed yet?
>>
>>Chimbonda... Wisey tried to nick him before he signed...
>>
>>
>>> not expecting a massive rise up the table, but we'll do a hell of a
>>> lot better than last year, that's for certain.
>>
>>Note the comparison with Sunderland signings...
>>
>>Like most mags now, rather than aim for top 4 or UEFA cup they just wanna
>>finish above Sunderland. Oh what a come down eh!
>>
>>Crossposted... Hopefully to fuel a bit debate..
>>
>>My opinion....
>>
>>Bottom half finish for the big three...
>>Boro survive relegation only because ov the shite thats come up...
>>Keegan gone before Santa comes...
>>
>>
> i merely compared them to sunderland's signings because thats what
> shipwreck used as his reference point.
>

Ah! reet

> having seen gutierrez play a few games he looks like he could be
> pretty handy, and as for coloccini, having 30-ish caps for argentina,
> being regarded as one of the best centre halves in the spanish league,
> does, imo, make him pretty much world class.
>

World class? Yer got to be kidding... World class players sign for the top 4

> keane just seems to have signed players he'd like to have a fight
> with.
>
> i mean diouf is hardly brilliant, he had bags of potential but he's
> just turned into a pretty average p[remiership player during his time
> at bolton, and chimbonda just doesn't impress me, and never has.
>
> i'd be surprised if he's there still for the 2009/10 season, he'll
> have found another reason to moan and move again by then.
>
> i actually think we'll both finish around about mid-table, creeping
> into the top half,and boro will be the poorest relations in the
> league.
>
> keegan sacked or quitting before christmas? about as likely as Hull
> city staying in the prem.
>
> but hey, if you're happy with your lot buying spurs' castoffs fair
> enough, but i wouldnt be.

I'm happy so far :)

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:24:23 +0100, "Eyan The Mackem \(oo\)"
 wrote:


>>>
>> i merely compared them to sunderland's signings because thats what
>> shipwreck used as his reference point.
>>
>
>Ah! reet
>
>> having seen gutierrez play a few games he looks like he could be
>> pretty handy, and as for coloccini, having 30-ish caps for argentina,
>> being regarded as one of the best centre halves in the spanish league,
>> does, imo, make him pretty much world class.
>>
>
>World class? Yer got to be kidding... World class players sign for the top 4

usually they do yes, we'll just have to wait and see how he settles,
but from looking over his stats for the past few seasons, he should
hopefully be the centre half we've been cryin out for ever since we
sold woodgate.
>
>> keane just seems to have signed players he'd like to have a fight
>> with.
>>
>> i mean diouf is hardly brilliant, he had bags of potential but he's
>> just turned into a pretty average p[remiership player during his time
>> at bolton, and chimbonda just doesn't impress me, and never has.
>>
>> i'd be surprised if he's there still for the 2009/10 season, he'll
>> have found another reason to moan and move again by then.
>>
>> i actually think we'll both finish around about mid-table, creeping
>> into the top half,and boro will be the poorest relations in the
>> league.
>>
>> keegan sacked or quitting before christmas? about as likely as Hull
>> city staying in the prem.
>>
>> but hey, if you're happy with your lot buying spurs' castoffs fair
>> enough, but i wouldnt be.
>
>I'm happy so far :)
>
your signings have just struck me as the sort we probably would have
made if fat freddy shithead was still running the club.

i'm pretty certain you'll do better than you did last year, but i
really question the signings of diouf and chimbonda, unless keane is
just after sparring partners... ;)
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"Chris F"  wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:24:23 +0100, "Eyan The Mackem \(oo\)"
>  wrote:
>
>
>>>>
>>> i merely compared them to sunderland's signings because thats what
>>> shipwreck used as his reference point.
>>>
>>
>>Ah! reet
>>
>>> having seen gutierrez play a few games he looks like he could be
>>> pretty handy, and as for coloccini, having 30-ish caps for argentina,
>>> being regarded as one of the best centre halves in the spanish league,
>>> does, imo, make him pretty much world class.
>>>
>>
>>World class? Yer got to be kidding... World class players sign for the top 
>>4
>
> usually they do yes, we'll just have to wait and see how he settles,
> but from looking over his stats for the past few seasons, he should
> hopefully be the centre half we've been cryin out for ever since we
> sold woodgate.

Only when you had Woodgate you were still shite at the back

>>
>>> keane just seems to have signed players he'd like to have a fight
>>> with.
>>>
>>> i mean diouf is hardly brilliant, he had bags of potential but he's
>>> just turned into a pretty average p[remiership player during his time
>>> at bolton, and chimbonda just doesn't impress me, and never has.
>>>
>>> i'd be surprised if he's there still for the 2009/10 season, he'll
>>> have found another reason to moan and move again by then.
>>>
>>> i actually think we'll both finish around about mid-table, creeping
>>> into the top half,and boro will be the poorest relations in the
>>> league.
>>>
>>> keegan sacked or quitting before christmas? about as likely as Hull
>>> city staying in the prem.
>>>
>>> but hey, if you're happy with your lot buying spurs' castoffs fair
>>> enough, but i wouldnt be.
>>
>>I'm happy so far :)
>>
> your signings have just struck me as the sort we probably would have
> made if fat freddy shithead was still running the club.
>

Little Dennis tried to sign two of them apparently :)

> i'm pretty certain you'll do better than you did last year, but i
> really question the signings of diouf and chimbonda, unless keane is
> just after sparring partners... ;)
> -- 

We shall see, think they have improved the squad..

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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:53:42 +0100, "Eyan The Mackem \(oo\)"
 wrote:

>
>"Chris F"  wrote in message 
>news:a13u941ebt8admbbi9ri3437oclpdnn7go@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:24:23 +0100, "Eyan The Mackem \(oo\)"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>> i merely compared them to sunderland's signings because thats what
>>>> shipwreck used as his reference point.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Ah! reet
>>>
>>>> having seen gutierrez play a few games he looks like he could be
>>>> pretty handy, and as for coloccini, having 30-ish caps for argentina,
>>>> being regarded as one of the best centre halves in the spanish league,
>>>> does, imo, make him pretty much world class.
>>>>
>>>
>>>World class? Yer got to be kidding... World class players sign for the top 
>>>4
>>
>> usually they do yes, we'll just have to wait and see how he settles,
>> but from looking over his stats for the past few seasons, he should
>> hopefully be the centre half we've been cryin out for ever since we
>> sold woodgate.
>
>Only when you had Woodgate you were still shite at the back
>
i'd happily be shite at the back and finishing in the top 4 again,
mate :)
>>>
>>>> keane just seems to have signed players he'd like to have a fight
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>> i mean diouf is hardly brilliant, he had bags of potential but he's
>>>> just turned into a pretty average p[remiership player during his time
>>>> at bolton, and chimbonda just doesn't impress me, and never has.
>>>>
>>>> i'd be surprised if he's there still for the 2009/10 season, he'll
>>>> have found another reason to moan and move again by then.
>>>>
>>>> i actually think we'll both finish around about mid-table, creeping
>>>> into the top half,and boro will be the poorest relations in the
>>>> league.
>>>>
>>>> keegan sacked or quitting before christmas? about as likely as Hull
>>>> city staying in the prem.
>>>>
>>>> but hey, if you're happy with your lot buying spurs' castoffs fair
>>>> enough, but i wouldnt be.
>>>
>>>I'm happy so far :)
>>>
>> your signings have just struck me as the sort we probably would have
>> made if fat freddy shithead was still running the club.
>>
>
>Little Dennis tried to sign two of them apparently :)

i doubt we have ever been after chimbonda, every summer he's been
linked with us for about 3 year, and if we'd had any interest i think
we would have seen a more definite bid.

but hey, if you feel happy imagining you beat us to his signing, knock
yersel oot :)
>
>> i'm pretty certain you'll do better than you did last year, but i
>> really question the signings of diouf and chimbonda, unless keane is
>> just after sparring partners... ;)
>> -- 
>
>We shall see, think they have improved the squad..

i'm sure they have, but you pretty much had a squad of
championship-level players last season
>
>http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/72173248.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A656B87412CA76C03226D5502F4A3FD04B

very good, he's still a gobshite prick tho ;)
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Chris F  wrote in
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> i'm sure they have, but you pretty much had a squad of
> championship-level players last season

Hey Eyan - I remember not so long ago when Chris said he 
couldn't be arsed about Sunderland but now he seems to be 
paying attention.  

Today, one team is on the way up and the other is trying to 
arrest a steady decline. One has stable ownership and 
management and the other is in constant flux. How times have 
changed.  You're right - they used to think they were in the 
same league as ManU, Chelsea and Arse and had a God-given 
right to Europe.  Now reality is hitting home :-)

Paul

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:12:01 GMT, Paul  wrote:

>Chris F  wrote in
>news:rc7u94h75a3mtda1igmj6o78i098llepdo@4ax.com: 
>
>> i'm sure they have, but you pretty much had a squad of
>> championship-level players last season
>
>Hey Eyan - I remember not so long ago when Chris said he 
>couldn't be arsed about Sunderland but now he seems to be 
>paying attention.  
>
>Today, one team is on the way up and the other is trying to 
>arrest a steady decline. One has stable ownership and 
>management and the other is in constant flux. How times have 
>changed.  You're right - they used to think they were in the 
>same league as ManU, Chelsea and Arse and had a God-given 
>right to Europe.  Now reality is hitting home :-)
>
>Paul

aye, but we'll still finish above you in the league :)

and i'd hardly say we're in constant flux, but then i'm not daft
enough to believe the sunday tabloids as if theyre gospel :P
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Chris F  wrote in
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> aye, but we'll still finish above you in the league :)

I wouldn't count my chickens yet - your squad has been 
underperforming for several years.
 
> and i'd hardly say we're in constant flux, but then i'm not
> daft enough to believe the sunday tabloids as if theyre
> gospel :P 

I don't read the Sunday papers - don't see them over here - 
but since Sir Bobby left I would hardly describe the club as 
"stable".

Paul

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:14:24 GMT, Paul  wrote:

>Chris F  wrote in
>news:2b9u94heecormgd91os50ki871vbm7b9dt@4ax.com: 
>
>> aye, but we'll still finish above you in the league :)
>
>I wouldn't count my chickens yet - your squad has been 
>underperforming for several years.

well whilst underperforming we've still been better than sunderland,
so by that same reasoning, if we improve this season, we'll still be
better than you lot :P
> 
>> and i'd hardly say we're in constant flux, but then i'm not
>> daft enough to believe the sunday tabloids as if theyre
>> gospel :P 
>
>I don't read the Sunday papers - don't see them over here - 
>but since Sir Bobby left I would hardly describe the club as 
>"stable".
>
i'd say it's certainly the most stable it's been now since those days,
purely because i don't believe any of the stories about ashley looking
to sell, or any of the other doom-mongering tripe that comes out of
the national tabloids.

the whole squad seems happy, we seem to be bringing in the right sort
of player, compared to the money-grabbing charlatans we have overpaid
for in the past.
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"Chris F"  wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:53:42 +0100, "Eyan The Mackem \(oo\)"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Chris F"  wrote in message
>>news:a13u941ebt8admbbi9ri3437oclpdnn7go@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:24:23 +0100, "Eyan The Mackem \(oo\)"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> i merely compared them to sunderland's signings because thats what
>>>>> shipwreck used as his reference point.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ah! reet
>>>>
>>>>> having seen gutierrez play a few games he looks like he could be
>>>>> pretty handy, and as for coloccini, having 30-ish caps for argentina,
>>>>> being regarded as one of the best centre halves in the spanish league,
>>>>> does, imo, make him pretty much world class.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>World class? Yer got to be kidding... World class players sign for the 
>>>>top
>>>>4
>>>
>>> usually they do yes, we'll just have to wait and see how he settles,
>>> but from looking over his stats for the past few seasons, he should
>>> hopefully be the centre half we've been cryin out for ever since we
>>> sold woodgate.
>>
>>Only when you had Woodgate you were still shite at the back
>>
> i'd happily be shite at the back and finishing in the top 4 again,
> mate :)
>>>>
>>>>> keane just seems to have signed players he'd like to have a fight
>>>>> with.
>>>>>
>>>>> i mean diouf is hardly brilliant, he had bags of potential but he's
>>>>> just turned into a pretty average p[remiership player during his time
>>>>> at bolton, and chimbonda just doesn't impress me, and never has.
>>>>>
>>>>> i'd be surprised if he's there still for the 2009/10 season, he'll
>>>>> have found another reason to moan and move again by then.
>>>>>
>>>>> i actually think we'll both finish around about mid-table, creeping
>>>>> into the top half,and boro will be the poorest relations in the
>>>>> league.
>>>>>
>>>>> keegan sacked or quitting before christmas? about as likely as Hull
>>>>> city staying in the prem.
>>>>>
>>>>> but hey, if you're happy with your lot buying spurs' castoffs fair
>>>>> enough, but i wouldnt be.
>>>>
>>>>I'm happy so far :)
>>>>
>>> your signings have just struck me as the sort we probably would have
>>> made if fat freddy shithead was still running the club.
>>>
>>
>>Little Dennis tried to sign two of them apparently :)
>
> i doubt we have ever been after chimbonda, every summer he's been
> linked with us for about 3 year, and if we'd had any interest i think
> we would have seen a more definite bid.
>
> but hey, if you feel happy imagining you beat us to his signing, knock
> yersel oot :)
>>
>>> i'm pretty certain you'll do better than you did last year, but i
>>> really question the signings of diouf and chimbonda, unless keane is
>>> just after sparring partners... ;)
>>> -- 
>>
>>We shall see, think they have improved the squad..
>
> i'm sure they have, but you pretty much had a squad of
> championship-level players last season
>>
>>http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/72173248.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A656B87412CA76C03226D5502F4A3FD04B
>
> very good, he's still a gobshite prick tho ;)
> -- 


A bite Lol

Chark it up Bern

"Paul"  wrote in message 
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> Chris F  wrote in
> news:rc7u94h75a3mtda1igmj6o78i098llepdo@4ax.com:
>
>> i'm sure they have, but you pretty much had a squad of
>> championship-level players last season
>
> Hey Eyan - I remember not so long ago when Chris said he
> couldn't be arsed about Sunderland but now he seems to be
> paying attention.
>
> Today, one team is on the way up and the other is trying to
> arrest a steady decline. One has stable ownership and
> management and the other is in constant flux. How times have
> changed.  You're right - they used to think they were in the
> same league as ManU, Chelsea and Arse and had a God-given
> right to Europe.  Now reality is hitting home :-)
>
> Paul
>

Quality marra...

Wish I had put it lyke that

"Chris F"  wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:12:01 GMT, Paul  wrote:
>
>>Chris F  wrote in
>>news:rc7u94h75a3mtda1igmj6o78i098llepdo@4ax.com:
>>
>>> i'm sure they have, but you pretty much had a squad of
>>> championship-level players last season
>>
>>Hey Eyan - I remember not so long ago when Chris said he
>>couldn't be arsed about Sunderland but now he seems to be
>>paying attention.
>>
>>Today, one team is on the way up and the other is trying to
>>arrest a steady decline. One has stable ownership and
>>management and the other is in constant flux. How times have
>>changed.  You're right - they used to think they were in the
>>same league as ManU, Chelsea and Arse and had a God-given
>>right to Europe.  Now reality is hitting home :-)
>>
>>Paul
>
> aye, but we'll still finish above you in the league :)
>


Typical TGB

I never said we would finish above yer.....

You assume you will finish above us... Like every year, regardless

"Chris F"  wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:14:24 GMT, Paul  wrote:
>
>>Chris F  wrote in
>>news:2b9u94heecormgd91os50ki871vbm7b9dt@4ax.com:
>>
>>> aye, but we'll still finish above you in the league :)
>>
>>I wouldn't count my chickens yet - your squad has been
>>underperforming for several years.
>
> well whilst underperforming we've still been better than sunderland,
> so by that same reasoning, if we improve this season, we'll still be
> better than you lot :P
>>
>>> and i'd hardly say we're in constant flux, but then i'm not
>>> daft enough to believe the sunday tabloids as if theyre
>>> gospel :P
>>
>>I don't read the Sunday papers - don't see them over here -
>>but since Sir Bobby left I would hardly describe the club as
>>"stable".
>>
> i'd say it's certainly the most stable it's been now since those days,
> purely because i don't believe any of the stories about ashley looking
> to sell, or any of the other doom-mongering tripe that comes out of
> the national tabloids.
>
> the whole squad seems happy, we seem to be bringing in the right sort
> of player, compared to the money-grabbing charlatans we have overpaid
> for in the past.
> -- 


Where's yer superstar bum on seats signing then?  Very unstable I'd say... 1 
blokes on £110,000 a week, you stalling on his contract now.... £16mill down 
the piss pot I'd say lyke

Chris F  wrote in
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> well whilst underperforming we've still been better than
> sunderland, so by that same reasoning, if we improve this
> season, we'll still be better than you lot :P

Interesting logic, but whatever keeps your spirits up :-)

Paul

"Paul"  wrote in message 
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> Chris F  wrote in
> news:2gku94lk4esf875r58ou86o0oib0vp3qkr@4ax.com:
>
>> well whilst underperforming we've still been better than
>> sunderland, so by that same reasoning, if we improve this
>> season, we'll still be better than you lot :P
>
> Interesting logic, but whatever keeps your spirits up :-)
>
> Paul
>

Logic and TGB?

snigger

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:54:36 +0100, "Eyan The Mackem \(oo\)"
 wrote:

>
>"Chris F"  wrote in message 
>news:2b9u94heecormgd91os50ki871vbm7b9dt@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:12:01 GMT, Paul  wrote:
>>
>>>Chris F  wrote in
>>>news:rc7u94h75a3mtda1igmj6o78i098llepdo@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> i'm sure they have, but you pretty much had a squad of
>>>> championship-level players last season
>>>
>>>Hey Eyan - I remember not so long ago when Chris said he
>>>couldn't be arsed about Sunderland but now he seems to be
>>>paying attention.
>>>
>>>Today, one team is on the way up and the other is trying to
>>>arrest a steady decline. One has stable ownership and
>>>management and the other is in constant flux. How times have
>>>changed.  You're right - they used to think they were in the
>>>same league as ManU, Chelsea and Arse and had a God-given
>>>right to Europe.  Now reality is hitting home :-)
>>>
>>>Paul
>>
>> aye, but we'll still finish above you in the league :)
>>
>
>
>Typical TGB
>
>I never said we would finish above yer.....

good thing i wasn't replyin to you then, eh? ;)
>
>You assume you will finish above us... Like every year, regardless 

well, the stats are on our side in that respect :P
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"Chris F"  wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:54:36 +0100, "Eyan The Mackem \(oo\)"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Chris F"  wrote in message
>>news:2b9u94heecormgd91os50ki871vbm7b9dt@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:12:01 GMT, Paul  wrote:
>>>
>>>>Chris F  wrote in
>>>>news:rc7u94h75a3mtda1igmj6o78i098llepdo@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> i'm sure they have, but you pretty much had a squad of
>>>>> championship-level players last season
>>>>
>>>>Hey Eyan - I remember not so long ago when Chris said he
>>>>couldn't be arsed about Sunderland but now he seems to be
>>>>paying attention.
>>>>
>>>>Today, one team is on the way up and the other is trying to
>>>>arrest a steady decline. One has stable ownership and
>>>>management and the other is in constant flux. How times have
>>>>changed.  You're right - they used to think they were in the
>>>>same league as ManU, Chelsea and Arse and had a God-given
>>>>right to Europe.  Now reality is hitting home :-)
>>>>
>>>>Paul
>>>
>>> aye, but we'll still finish above you in the league :)
>>>
>>
>>
>>Typical TGB
>>
>>I never said we would finish above yer.....
>
> good thing i wasn't replyin to you then, eh? ;)
>>
>>You assume you will finish above us... Like every year, regardless
>
> well, the stats are on our side in that respect :P
> -- 


Stats said that in 2000... 1-2 and above you :)

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:52:59 +0100, "Eyan The Mackem \(oo\)"
 wrote:

>
>"Paul"  wrote in message 
>news:Xns9AF671F186620paulgexpertcanmore@199.185.223.74...
>> Chris F  wrote in
>> news:rc7u94h75a3mtda1igmj6o78i098llepdo@4ax.com:
>>
>>> i'm sure they have, but you pretty much had a squad of
>>> championship-level players last season
>>
>> Hey Eyan - I remember not so long ago when Chris said he
>> couldn't be arsed about Sunderland but now he seems to be
>> paying attention.
>>
>> Today, one team is on the way up and the other is trying to
>> arrest a steady decline. One has stable ownership and
>> management and the other is in constant flux. How times have
>> changed.  You're right - they used to think they were in the
>> same league as ManU, Chelsea and Arse and had a God-given
>> right to Europe.  Now reality is hitting home :-)
>>
>> Paul
>>
>
>Quality marra...
>
>Wish I had put it lyke that 

all gone a bit quiet over there.

team in decline are we? :)
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"Chris F"  wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:52:59 +0100, "Eyan The Mackem \(oo\)"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Paul"  wrote in message
>>news:Xns9AF671F186620paulgexpertcanmore@199.185.223.74...
>>> Chris F  wrote in
>>> news:rc7u94h75a3mtda1igmj6o78i098llepdo@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> i'm sure they have, but you pretty much had a squad of
>>>> championship-level players last season
>>>
>>> Hey Eyan - I remember not so long ago when Chris said he
>>> couldn't be arsed about Sunderland but now he seems to be
>>> paying attention.
>>>
>>> Today, one team is on the way up and the other is trying to
>>> arrest a steady decline. One has stable ownership and
>>> management and the other is in constant flux. How times have
>>> changed.  You're right - they used to think they were in the
>>> same league as ManU, Chelsea and Arse and had a God-given
>>> right to Europe.  Now reality is hitting home :-)
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>
>>Quality marra...
>>
>>Wish I had put it lyke that
>
> all gone a bit quiet over there.
>
> team in decline are we? :)
> -- 
>


Wahey!

Top four now then Chris :)

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:13:50 +0100, "Eyan The Mackem \(oo\)"
 wrote:

>
>"Chris F"  wrote in message 
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>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:52:59 +0100, "Eyan The Mackem \(oo\)"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Paul"  wrote in message
>>>news:Xns9AF671F186620paulgexpertcanmore@199.185.223.74...
>>>> Chris F  wrote in
>>>> news:rc7u94h75a3mtda1igmj6o78i098llepdo@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> i'm sure they have, but you pretty much had a squad of
>>>>> championship-level players last season
>>>>
>>>> Hey Eyan - I remember not so long ago when Chris said he
>>>> couldn't be arsed about Sunderland but now he seems to be
>>>> paying attention.
>>>>
>>>> Today, one team is on the way up and the other is trying to
>>>> arrest a steady decline. One has stable ownership and
>>>> management and the other is in constant flux. How times have
>>>> changed.  You're right - they used to think they were in the
>>>> same league as ManU, Chelsea and Arse and had a God-given
>>>> right to Europe.  Now reality is hitting home :-)
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>
>>>Quality marra...
>>>
>>>Wish I had put it lyke that
>>
>> all gone a bit quiet over there.
>>
>> team in decline are we? :)
>> -- 
>>
>
>
>Wahey!
>
>Top four now then Chris :) 

no, but i think it's safe to say Paul's assertations that we were in
decline is BS :)
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Chris F  wrote in
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> no, but i think it's safe to say Paul's assertations that
> we were in decline is BS :)

Based on one game, as opposed to the last several seasons?????

Paul

Chris F  wrote in
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> no, but i think it's safe to say Paul's assertations that
> we were in decline is BS :)

Care to resume this thread??  :-)

I have to admit that the Mags in here showed mercy during our 
dire season a few years ago so I promise not to pour salt on 
the wounds.  The sooner your lot sort themselves out and start 
acting professionally the better.  That's one thing I can say 
about us - no matter how bad it got a few years ago we didn't 
have to go through any of this sort of crap.

Paul