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date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:29:29 +0100,    group: uk.sport.football.clubs.newcastle-united        back       
ANFIELD RATED BEST ATMOSPHERE   
A survey of English football fans revealed what Reds supporters have 
known all along - Anfield has the best atmosphere in Europe.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N157121070927-1011.htm

:)

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date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:14:15 +0100   author:   scoopex

Re: ANFIELD RATED BEST ATMOSPHERE   
["Followup-To:" header set to alt.sports.soccer.everton.]
scoopex illuminated alt.sports.soccer.everton by typing:
> A survey of English football fans revealed what Reds supporters have 
> known all along - Anfield has the best atmosphere in Europe.
>
> http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N157121070927-1011.htm

What a pile of hoop.

Here's a survey I've just conducted. 

Survey's are absolutely fucking pointless unless conducted by a
relevant authority.

Who the fcuk are Drivers Jonas Sports.
Aaaah....
http://www.driversjonas.com/uk.aspx?doc=15834

Property fucking consultants...that's who. Well bugger me, that must
be highly fcuking accurate then. 

-- 
Moog

"Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the
leather straps."
date: 27 Sep 2007 09:30:55 GMT   author:   Moog

Empty seats at old trafford last night   
yet they claimed to have sold out.

why ?

lol. :)
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date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:29:29 +0100   author:   scoopex

Re: Empty seats at old trafford last night   
"scoopex"  wrote in message 
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> yet they claimed to have sold out.
>
> why ?
>
> lol. :)
> -- 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/scoopex/

Maybe they already bought the tickets and found something to watch on TV 
instead.

Not surprising, as Ferdinand Ronaldive and Wes Brown didn't start, they 
couldn't guarantee comedy moments during the game.
date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:44:41 GMT   author:   mentalguy2004

Re: Empty seats at old trafford last night   
"mentalguy2004"  wrote in message 
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>
> "scoopex"  wrote in message 
> news:46fba203$0$28256$a9266ab1@news.buzzardnews.com...
>> yet they claimed to have sold out.
>>
>> why ?
>>
>> lol. :)
>> -- 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/scoopex/
>
> Maybe they already bought the tickets and found something to watch on TV 
> instead.
>
> Not surprising, as Ferdinand Ronaldive and Wes Brown didn't start, they 
> couldn't guarantee comedy moments during the game.
>

they were probably season ticket holders who had to pay for cup matches as 
part of the package, whether they wanted to attend or not
date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:07:17 +0100   author:   another gunner

Re: Empty seats at old trafford last night   
"mentalguy2004"  wrote in message 
news:ZANKi.15884$HW.12249@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>
> "scoopex"  wrote in message 
> news:46fba203$0$28256$a9266ab1@news.buzzardnews.com...
>> yet they claimed to have sold out.
>>
>> why ?
>>
>> lol. :)
>> -- 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/scoopex/
>
> Maybe they already bought the tickets and found something to watch on TV 
> instead.
>
> Not surprising, as Ferdinand Ronaldive and Wes Brown didn't start, they 
> couldn't guarantee comedy moments during the game.


We can guarantee there won't be any in your posts.

A. Dieu.
>
>
date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:23:07 GMT   author:   Le Dieu

ATTN Le Dieu   
"I was absolutely flabbergasted by that performance," said Ferguson. "I did
not expect that at all. I am not interested in giving reasons or mitigating
circumstances. It was just a very bad performance."

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2177956,00.html


"We have trumpeted these young lads a lot, so what happened tonight was a
big shock for us all," admitted Ferguson. "You want to give these boys a
chance and we have not had the opportunity to do that. The number of
Coventry fans who came made it a real cup-tie atmosphere and maybe that was
an issue for some of our players because in the first half, we were second
to every ball."

are you bothered by that?

--
date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:43:29 +0100   author:   Dave G

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
"Dave G"  wrote in message 
news:IbCdnaVeJKoULmbbnZ2dnUVZ8tWnnZ2d@pipex.net...
> "I was absolutely flabbergasted by that performance," said Ferguson. "I 
> did
> not expect that at all. I am not interested in giving reasons or 
> mitigating
> circumstances. It was just a very bad performance."
>
> http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2177956,00.html
>
>
> "We have trumpeted these young lads a lot, so what happened tonight was a
> big shock for us all," admitted Ferguson. "You want to give these boys a
> chance and we have not had the opportunity to do that. The number of
> Coventry fans who came made it a real cup-tie atmosphere and maybe that 
> was
> an issue for some of our players because in the first half, we were second
> to every ball."
>
> are you bothered by that?
>


A little. I'd have preferred to win. Sounded like a very poor performance.

But, as I always say about ko games, you can't judge a team over one game.

A. Dieu.
date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:48:34 GMT   author:   Le Dieu

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
"Le Dieu"  wrote in message
news:SwOKi.116$w2.3@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>
> "Dave G"  wrote in message
> news:IbCdnaVeJKoULmbbnZ2dnUVZ8tWnnZ2d@pipex.net...
> > "I was absolutely flabbergasted by that performance," said Ferguson. "I
> > did
> > not expect that at all. I am not interested in giving reasons or
> > mitigating
> > circumstances. It was just a very bad performance."
> >
> > http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2177956,00.html
> >
> >
> > "We have trumpeted these young lads a lot, so what happened tonight was
a
> > big shock for us all," admitted Ferguson. "You want to give these boys a
> > chance and we have not had the opportunity to do that. The number of
> > Coventry fans who came made it a real cup-tie atmosphere and maybe that
> > was
> > an issue for some of our players because in the first half, we were
second
> > to every ball."
> >
> > are you bothered by that?

> A little. I'd have preferred to win. Sounded like a very poor performance.
> But, as I always say about ko games, you can't judge a team over one game.

no, certainly not a "makeshift" one at that.

but what about the manager, SAF?
less than great judgement maybe?

--
date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:59:06 +0100   author:   Dave G

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
Le Dieu wrote:
> "Dave G"  wrote in message 
> news:IbCdnaVeJKoULmbbnZ2dnUVZ8tWnnZ2d@pipex.net...
>> "I was absolutely flabbergasted by that performance," said Ferguson. "I 
>> did
>> not expect that at all. I am not interested in giving reasons or 
>> mitigating
>> circumstances. It was just a very bad performance."
>>
>> http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2177956,00.html
>>
>>
>> "We have trumpeted these young lads a lot, so what happened tonight was a
>> big shock for us all," admitted Ferguson. "You want to give these boys a
>> chance and we have not had the opportunity to do that. The number of
>> Coventry fans who came made it a real cup-tie atmosphere and maybe that 
>> was
>> an issue for some of our players because in the first half, we were second
>> to every ball."
>>
>> are you bothered by that?
>>
> 
> 
> A little. I'd have preferred to win. Sounded like a very poor performance.
> 
> But, as I always say about ko games, you can't judge a team over one game.
> 
> A. Dieu. 
> 
> 

And you know what? As a Gooner, I agree with Le Dieu. Maybe MU reserves 
did play badly. But if our kids had lost to Newcastle, would that make 
them significantly less promising? Surely not.
Georgie Charles
date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:58:26 GMT   author:   Georgie Charles

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
"Dave G"  wrote in message 
news:f4SdnY9LIcCvKmbbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>
> "Le Dieu"  wrote in message
> news:SwOKi.116$w2.3@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>>
>> "Dave G"  wrote in message
>> news:IbCdnaVeJKoULmbbnZ2dnUVZ8tWnnZ2d@pipex.net...
>> > "I was absolutely flabbergasted by that performance," said Ferguson. "I
>> > did
>> > not expect that at all. I am not interested in giving reasons or
>> > mitigating
>> > circumstances. It was just a very bad performance."
>> >
>> > http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2177956,00.html
>> >
>> >
>> > "We have trumpeted these young lads a lot, so what happened tonight was
> a
>> > big shock for us all," admitted Ferguson. "You want to give these boys 
>> > a
>> > chance and we have not had the opportunity to do that. The number of
>> > Coventry fans who came made it a real cup-tie atmosphere and maybe that
>> > was
>> > an issue for some of our players because in the first half, we were
> second
>> > to every ball."
>> >
>> > are you bothered by that?
>
>> A little. I'd have preferred to win. Sounded like a very poor 
>> performance.
>> But, as I always say about ko games, you can't judge a team over one 
>> game.
>
> no, certainly not a "makeshift" one at that.
>
> but what about the manager, SAF?
> less than great judgement maybe?


Only in hindsight. Before ko I would have hoped he'd play a lot of the kids 
alongside a couple of first teamers who needed a game. On paper that side 
was strong enough to beat a Coventry side who'd lost 4-1 over the weekend.

On the one hand I'd have liked to win the trophy, but only as a 4th priority 
and I'd have hated to put our first team through all the extra games to do 
it.

A. Dieu.
date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:05:49 GMT   author:   Le Dieu

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
In article , 
live@usenet.co.uk says...
> "I was absolutely flabbergasted by that performance," said Ferguson. "I did
> not expect that at all. I am not interested in giving reasons or mitigating
> circumstances. It was just a very bad performance."
> 
I think as SAF has got older he's got a bit more humble and honest which 
I respect him for.
date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:40:11 +0100   author:   Strawberry

Re: Empty seats at old trafford last night   
scoopex wrote:
> yet they claimed to have sold out.
> 
> why ?
> 
> lol. :)


As I understand it all Manu fans have to buy tickets for cup games even 
if they can't go or there's a chance of loosing there season tickets... 
Can anyone confirm this?
date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:14:47 +0100   author:   bRiAN

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
"Le Dieu"  wrote in message
news:1NOKi.49063$ph7.1782@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>
> "Dave G"  wrote in message
> news:f4SdnY9LIcCvKmbbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>
>> "Le Dieu"  wrote in message
>> news:SwOKi.116$w2.3@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>>>
>>> "Dave G"  wrote in message
>>> news:IbCdnaVeJKoULmbbnZ2dnUVZ8tWnnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>> > "I was absolutely flabbergasted by that performance," said Ferguson.
>>> > "I
>>> > did
>>> > not expect that at all. I am not interested in giving reasons or
>>> > mitigating
>>> > circumstances. It was just a very bad performance."
>>> >
>>> > http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2177956,00.html
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "We have trumpeted these young lads a lot, so what happened tonight
>>> > was
>> a
>>> > big shock for us all," admitted Ferguson. "You want to give these boys
>>> > a
>>> > chance and we have not had the opportunity to do that. The number of
>>> > Coventry fans who came made it a real cup-tie atmosphere and maybe
>>> > that
>>> > was
>>> > an issue for some of our players because in the first half, we were
>> second
>>> > to every ball."
>>> >
>>> > are you bothered by that?
>>
>>> A little. I'd have preferred to win. Sounded like a very poor
>>> performance.
>>> But, as I always say about ko games, you can't judge a team over one
>>> game.
>>
>> no, certainly not a "makeshift" one at that.
>>
>> but what about the manager, SAF?
>> less than great judgement maybe?
>
>
> Only in hindsight. Before ko I would have hoped he'd play a lot of the
> kids alongside a couple of first teamers who needed a game. On paper that
> side was strong enough to beat a Coventry side who'd lost 4-1 over the
> weekend.
>
> On the one hand I'd have liked to win the trophy, but only as a 4th
> priority and I'd have hated to put our first team through all the extra
> games to do it.
>

I too would have liked us to have gone on a bit longer in the comp, or even
to have won it, because it gives our young lads something to strive towards.
They don't have much to look forward to, what with them being years away
from the first team and the big games that brings them. I think it would be
very selfish to not care about it.

Ask the young lads whether they find it 'worthless', I somehow don't think
they would. As United fans, it should be our duty to support the various
'tiers' of players we have.
date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:53:45 +0100   author:   Slitheen

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
Slitheen wrote:

> I too would have liked us to have gone on a bit longer in the comp, or even
> to have won it, because it gives our young lads something to strive towards.
> They don't have much to look forward to, what with them being years away
> from the first team and the big games that brings them. I think it would be
> very selfish to not care about it.
> 
> Ask the young lads whether they find it 'worthless', I somehow don't think
> they would. As United fans, it should be our duty to support the various
> 'tiers' of players we have.

It's also a financial disaster for the Glaziers, with their compulsory
purchase scheme for ST holders in operation, lol.
date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:58:48 +0100   author:   pmd

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
pmd formulated the question :
> Slitheen wrote:

>> I too would have liked us to have gone on a bit longer in the comp, or 
>> even
>> to have won it, because it gives our young lads something to strive 
>> towards.
>> They don't have much to look forward to, what with them being years 
>> away
>> from the first team and the big games that brings them. I think it 
>> would be
>> very selfish to not care about it.
>> 
>> Ask the young lads whether they find it 'worthless', I somehow don't 
>> think
>> they would. As United fans, it should be our duty to support the 
>> various
>> 'tiers' of players we have.

> It's also a financial disaster for the Glaziers, with their compulsory
> purchase scheme for ST holders in operation, lol.

LMFAO!!!

<+|80)

Honestly, the way that prick DRIVEL keeps going on (whenever the SCUM 
lose) about how it was only the "kids" and "our youngsters" and "the 
young lads" you'd swear none of them had ever kicked a ball till they 
were 21.  LOL  And then he tries to convince people he understands the 
game????

Most of these players were introduced to the club in their early teens 
and they were introduced for a reason -- that reason being the rather 
obvious one that they were able to play football, even at that young 
age.  So to *still* carry on about "the kids", as though these guys in 
their early to mid-twenties had never seen a fucking football in their 
lives, is laughable in the extreme, and betrays just how clueless that 
fat dying cunt in his hospital bed in America really is.

Kids!  PMSL!  What a clueless dimwit he is!

-- 
+ His Holiness Pope Pompous XVIII

"We can be efficient and that is linked with how much we keep the feet 
on the ground, wanting to improve, because the football we want to play 
demands humility, and as soon as you lose a little bit of that you are 
in trouble" -- Arsene Wenger
date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:13:04 +0100   author:   Pope Pompous XVIII

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
Pope Pompous XVIII wrote:

>> It's also a financial disaster for the Glaziers, with their compulsory
>> purchase scheme for ST holders in operation, lol.
> 
> 
> LMFAO!!!
> 
> <+|80)
> 
> Honestly, the way that prick DRIVEL keeps going on (whenever the SCUM 
> lose) about how it was only the "kids" and "our youngsters" and "the 
> young lads" you'd swear none of them had ever kicked a ball till they 
> were 21.  LOL  And then he tries to convince people he understands the 
> game????

Well he played for Stoke City you know ;-)

> 
> Most of these players were introduced to the club in their early teens 
> and they were introduced for a reason -- that reason being the rather 
> obvious one that they were able to play football, even at that young 
> age.  So to *still* carry on about "the kids", as though these guys in 
> their early to mid-twenties had never seen a fucking football in their 
> lives, is laughable in the extreme, and betrays just how clueless that 
> fat dying cunt in his hospital bed in America really is.
> 
> Kids!  PMSL!  What a clueless dimwit he is!

DT put a _team_ out and even he admits he was "flabbergasted". This cunt 
RD lives a 'Walter Mitty' existence. Fucking liar. When will people wake 
up to it?
date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:23:19 +0100   author:   pmd

Re: Empty seats at old trafford last night   
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:14:47 +0100, bRiAN
 wrote:

>scoopex wrote:
>> yet they claimed to have sold out.
>> 
>> why ?
>> 
>> lol. :)
>
>
>As I understand it all Manu fans have to buy tickets for cup games even 
>if they can't go or there's a chance of loosing there season tickets... 
>Can anyone confirm this?

yup, that's true.

they need to buy tickets for a certain percentage of cup games.

seriously fucked my mate off, who basically used to just go to cup
games, but now struggles to get a ticket.
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date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:28:47 +0100   author:   Chris F

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
pmd wrote on 28/9/07 :
> Pope Pompous XVIII wrote:

>>> It's also a financial disaster for the Glaziers, with their compulsory
>>> purchase scheme for ST holders in operation, lol.
>> 
>> 
>> LMFAO!!!
>> 
>> <+|80)
>> 
>> Honestly, the way that prick DRIVEL keeps going on (whenever the SCUM 
>> lose) about how it was only the "kids" and "our youngsters" and "the 
>> young lads" you'd swear none of them had ever kicked a ball till they 
>> were 21.  LOL  And then he tries to convince people he understands the 
>> game????

> Well he played for Stoke City you know ;-)

>> 
>> Most of these players were introduced to the club in their early teens 
>> and they were introduced for a reason -- that reason being the rather 
>> obvious one that they were able to play football, even at that young 
>> age.  So to *still* carry on about "the kids", as though these guys in 
>> their early to mid-twenties had never seen a fucking football in their 
>> lives, is laughable in the extreme, and betrays just how clueless that 
>> fat dying cunt in his hospital bed in America really is.
>> 
>> Kids!  PMSL!  What a clueless dimwit he is!

> DT put a _team_ out and even he admits he was "flabbergasted". This cunt 
> RD lives a 'Walter Mitty' existence. Fucking liar. When will people wake 
> up to it?

it's one thing they're quite adept at these Masons is convincing people 
they're something they're not

you can see it in everything he does -- pretends he's something 
innocuous -- "I'm just here for the banter mate" -- but in reality he's 
a vicious, scheming, deceitful and despicable arse

-- 
+ His Holiness Pope Pompous XVIII

"We can be efficient and that is linked with how much we keep the feet 
on the ground, wanting to improve, because the football we want to play 
demands humility, and as soon as you lose a little bit of that you are 
in trouble" -- Arsene Wenger
date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:32:11 +0100   author:   Pope Pompous XVIII

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
Pope Pompous XVIII wrote:

>> DT put a _team_ out and even he admits he was "flabbergasted". This 
>> cunt RD lives a 'Walter Mitty' existence. Fucking liar. When will 
>> people wake up to it?
> 
> 
> it's one thing they're quite adept at these Masons is convincing people 
> they're something they're not
> 
> you can see it in everything he does -- pretends he's something 
> innocuous -- "I'm just here for the banter mate" -- but in reality he's 
> a vicious, scheming, deceitful and despicable arse


Spot on, I've thought the same thing, always an ulterior motive.
He has a nerve lambasting others when he himself is an utter devious cunt.
date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:40:09 +0100   author:   pmd

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
pmd formulated on Friday :
> Pope Pompous XVIII wrote:

>>> DT put a _team_ out and even he admits he was "flabbergasted". This 
>>> cunt RD lives a 'Walter Mitty' existence. Fucking liar. When will 
>>> people wake up to it?
>> 
>> 
>> it's one thing they're quite adept at these Masons is convincing people 
>> they're something they're not
>> 
>> you can see it in everything he does -- pretends he's something 
>> innocuous -- "I'm just here for the banter mate" -- but in reality he's 
>> a vicious, scheming, deceitful and despicable arse


> Spot on, I've thought the same thing, always an ulterior motive.
> He has a nerve lambasting others when he himself is an utter devious 
> cunt.

he was on yesterday insinuating Arsene Wenger was a paedophile

Normally I would laugh at such stupidity and put it down to the way the 
Manc Scum have freaked out this week now that Arsenal are a bigger club 
but coming from him it's a bit rich considering the way he won't 
tolerate anybody poking fun at his own sickness

the sooner he's in hell the better as far as I'm concerned

-- 
+ His Holiness Pope Pompous XVIII

"We can be efficient and that is linked with how much we keep the feet 
on the ground, wanting to improve, because the football we want to play 
demands humility, and as soon as you lose a little bit of that you are 
in trouble" -- Arsene Wenger
date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:58:44 +0100   author:   Pope Pompous XVIII

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
Pope Pompous XVIII wrote:

>> Spot on, I've thought the same thing, always an ulterior motive.
>> He has a nerve lambasting others when he himself is an utter devious 
>> cunt.
> 
> 
> he was on yesterday insinuating Arsene Wenger was a paedophile
> 
> Normally I would laugh at such stupidity and put it down to the way the 
> Manc Scum have freaked out this week now that Arsenal are a bigger club 
> but coming from him it's a bit rich considering the way he won't 
> tolerate anybody poking fun at his own sickness
> 
> the sooner he's in hell the better as far as I'm concerned
> 

Amen...
date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:34:12 +0100   author:   pmd

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:53:45 +0100, "Slitheen"
 wrote:

>"Le Dieu"  wrote in message
>news:1NOKi.49063$ph7.1782@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>>
>> "Dave G"  wrote in message
>> news:f4SdnY9LIcCvKmbbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>
>>> "Le Dieu"  wrote in message
>>> news:SwOKi.116$w2.3@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Dave G"  wrote in message
>>>> news:IbCdnaVeJKoULmbbnZ2dnUVZ8tWnnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>> > "I was absolutely flabbergasted by that performance," said Ferguson.
>>>> > "I
>>>> > did
>>>> > not expect that at all. I am not interested in giving reasons or
>>>> > mitigating
>>>> > circumstances. It was just a very bad performance."
>>>> >
>>>> > http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2177956,00.html
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > "We have trumpeted these young lads a lot, so what happened tonight
>>>> > was
>>> a
>>>> > big shock for us all," admitted Ferguson. "You want to give these boys
>>>> > a
>>>> > chance and we have not had the opportunity to do that. The number of
>>>> > Coventry fans who came made it a real cup-tie atmosphere and maybe
>>>> > that
>>>> > was
>>>> > an issue for some of our players because in the first half, we were
>>> second
>>>> > to every ball."
>>>> >
>>>> > are you bothered by that?
>>>
>>>> A little. I'd have preferred to win. Sounded like a very poor
>>>> performance.
>>>> But, as I always say about ko games, you can't judge a team over one
>>>> game.
>>>
>>> no, certainly not a "makeshift" one at that.
>>>
>>> but what about the manager, SAF?
>>> less than great judgement maybe?
>>
>>
>> Only in hindsight. Before ko I would have hoped he'd play a lot of the
>> kids alongside a couple of first teamers who needed a game. On paper that
>> side was strong enough to beat a Coventry side who'd lost 4-1 over the
>> weekend.
>>
>> On the one hand I'd have liked to win the trophy, but only as a 4th
>> priority and I'd have hated to put our first team through all the extra
>> games to do it.
>>
>
>I too would have liked us to have gone on a bit longer in the comp, or even
>to have won it, because it gives our young lads something to strive towards.
>They don't have much to look forward to, what with them being years away
>from the first team and the big games that brings them. I think it would be
>very selfish to not care about it.
>
>Ask the young lads whether they find it 'worthless', I somehow don't think
>they would. As United fans, it should be our duty to support the various
>'tiers' of players we have.
>

I still believe we have a very good crop of youngsters, maybe some of
the best in the country but they are kids that have come from our
academy not purchased young talent from the likes of Barcelona etc.
The ages of the youngsters is one thing but what really counts is the
experience (or lack of). I believe there were around nine kids that
played against Coventry and they didn't have a dozen matches between
them. There's nothing wrong with an academy that can send a youth team
to the Youth World Champions tournament and comes back as Champions!


RED DEVIL
date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:46:04 -0400   author:   RED DEVIL

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
>> Only in hindsight. Before ko I would have hoped he'd play a lot of the
>> kids alongside a couple of first teamers who needed a game. On paper that
>> side was strong enough to beat a Coventry side who'd lost 4-1 over the
>> weekend.
>>
>> On the one hand I'd have liked to win the trophy, but only as a 4th
>> priority and I'd have hated to put our first team through all the extra
>> games to do it.
>>
>
> I too would have liked us to have gone on a bit longer in the comp, or 
> even
> to have won it, because it gives our young lads something to strive 
> towards.
> They don't have much to look forward to, what with them being years away
> from the first team and the big games that brings them. I think it would 
> be
> very selfish to not care about it.
>
> Ask the young lads whether they find it 'worthless', I somehow don't think
> they would. As United fans, it should be our duty to support the various
> 'tiers' of players we have.

It's a valuable competition for the young players trying to break through, 
but it's worthless to the first team players. SAF did the right thing by 
playing that team. In a perfect world they would have won and gotten another 
game or two, but I think they learnt a lot from that defeat. It's a great 
wake up call to get beaten by Coventry and see that you are not a guaranteed 
winner just because you put on the red shirt. Maybe they've got great talent 
but that's useless if you are not willing to work hard. They won't make that 
mistake agaĆ­n.

I'm sure we'll see Pique, Simpson, Evans and others in the first team this 
season and Foster is one of the greatest keeper talents in the country. 
People making conclusions about the standard of our academy based on a 
defeat in the Carling cup are just making fools out of themselves.
date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:01:56 +0200   author:   Jesper N?hr Andersen

Re: Empty seats at old trafford last night   
why are you all replying to a thread started by the freak? silly thick 
cunts.

"bRiAN"  wrote in message 
news:fdh6ia$2ut5$1@energise.enta.net...
> scoopex wrote:
>> yet they claimed to have sold out.
>>
>> why ?
>>
>> lol. :)
>
>
> As I understand it all Manu fans have to buy tickets for cup games even if 
> they can't go or there's a chance of loosing there season tickets... Can 
> anyone confirm this?
date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:01:29 GMT   author:   arthur

Re: Empty seats at old trafford last night   
arthur wrote:
> why are you all replying to a thread started by the freak? silly thick 
> cunts.
> 
> "bRiAN"  wrote in message 
> news:fdh6ia$2ut5$1@energise.enta.net...
>> scoopex wrote:
>>> yet they claimed to have sold out.
>>>
>>> why ?
>>>
>>> lol. :)
>>
>> As I understand it all Manu fans have to buy tickets for cup games even if 
>> they can't go or there's a chance of loosing there season tickets... Can 
>> anyone confirm this? 
> 
> 

yet artfur posts in my thread the thick cunt.

points and laughs.

*owned*

lol. :)

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date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 08:31:50 +0100   author:   scoopex

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
"Dave G"  wrote in message 
news:f4SdnY9LIcCvKmbbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@pipex.net...

> no, certainly not a "makeshift" one at that.
>
> but what about the manager, SAF?
> less than great judgement maybe?

He sent out a side that he thought would do well enough. Turns out he was 
wrong on the night but you have to put the players out there in real games 
to find out if they really can do it. And one result does not mean the same 
players won't come roaring back in the future - they'll have learnt far more 
from that defeat than they would have from another night in the reserves.
date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:05:32 GMT   author:   Robert Moir

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
no one gives a fuck
"Robert Moir"  wrote in message 
news:gJuLi.4095$Qd2.2915@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> "Dave G"  wrote in message 
> news:f4SdnY9LIcCvKmbbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>
>> no, certainly not a "makeshift" one at that.
>>
>> but what about the manager, SAF?
>> less than great judgement maybe?
>
> He sent out a side that he thought would do well enough. Turns out he was 
> wrong on the night but you have to put the players out there in real games 
> to find out if they really can do it. And one result does not mean the 
> same players won't come roaring back in the future - they'll have learnt 
> far more from that defeat than they would have from another night in the 
> reserves.
>
date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:10:24 +0100   author:   STEPHEN

Re: ATTN Le Dieu   
"STEPHEN"  wrote in message 
news:5m7bniFc375cU1@mid.individual.net...
> no one gives a fuck

And yet you replied.
date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:17:17 GMT   author:   Robert Moir

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