BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction" that 
NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that the 
best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next year is 
to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your chances in 
a knockout competition is easier than performing 
consistently all season long.

Better start dusting out that cabinet.....

Paul

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul  wrote:

>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction" that 
>NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that the 
>best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next year is 
>to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your chances in 
>a knockout competition is easier than performing 
>consistently all season long.
>
>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>
>Paul
>
>
least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next year, eh.
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Chris F  wrote in 
news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
> wrote:
> 
>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>performing consistently all season long.
>>
>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>
> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
> year, eh.

Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
sad.

Paul

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:40:09 GMT, Paul  wrote:

>Chris F  wrote in 
>news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>
>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>
>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>> year, eh.
>
>Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
>performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
>thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
>stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
>will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
>in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
>saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
>sad.

except we don't.

everyone else thinks thats what we expect, but a lot of us are quite
level headed.

it's not unrealistic for our fans to expect we'll be top4, after all
we were only 5 years ago, when we were withink a whisker of actually
winning the league (before it all went pear shaped)

i don't think it;s sad that allardyce is saying the easiest way to
europe next year is the carling cup, i think it's honest. 
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On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul  wrote:

>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction" that 
>NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that the 
>best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next year is 
>to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your chances in 
>a knockout competition is easier than performing 
>consistently all season long.
>
>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>
>Paul
>
>
least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next year, eh.
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Chris F  wrote in 
news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
> wrote:
> 
>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>performing consistently all season long.
>>
>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>
> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
> year, eh.

Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
sad.

Paul

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:40:09 GMT, Paul  wrote:

>Chris F  wrote in 
>news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>
>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>
>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>> year, eh.
>
>Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
>performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
>thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
>stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
>will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
>in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
>saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
>sad.

except we don't.

everyone else thinks thats what we expect, but a lot of us are quite
level headed.

it's not unrealistic for our fans to expect we'll be top4, after all
we were only 5 years ago, when we were withink a whisker of actually
winning the league (before it all went pear shaped)

i don't think it;s sad that allardyce is saying the easiest way to
europe next year is the carling cup, i think it's honest. 
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I do not know where your ideas comes from, but as a lifelong NUFC fan, I must say that our new look 
team will do better than the last one under Roeder. The year before NUFC finished 7th in the Prem - 
and this was not too bad considering the crap players we had at the back. Sam has bought quality 
defenders in Rozehnal and Geremi to bolster the team. If he lands Beye and a good left back (perhaps 
someone of the calibre of Wayne Bridge), I am sure NUFC has less worry at the back and with the 
midfield and the attack available, it is not unreasonable for any fan to expect a top 5 finish... in 
fact I had a £20 bet going with a Spurs fan that 1) NUFC will finish 5th or better and 2) NUFC will 
finish above Tottenham Hotspur in the coming season.

I might be wrong, but then I may be right! As for Spurs' spending, I see it as a case of "a fool and 
his money are easily parted".

Philocophus

***********

"Paul"  wrote in message news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@199.185.223.74...
> Chris F  wrote in
> news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>
>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>
>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>> year, eh.
>
> Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the
> performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful
> thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to
> stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane
> will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be
> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current
> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's
> sad.
>
> Paul
>

"Philocophus"  wrote in 
news:f6r39f$abp$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk:

> I do not know where your ideas comes from, but as a
> lifelong NUFC fan, I must say that our new look 
> team will do better than the last one under Roeder. The
> year before NUFC finished 7th in the Prem - 
> and this was not too bad considering the crap players we
> had at the back. Sam has bought quality defenders in
> Rozehnal and Geremi to bolster the team. If he lands Beye
> and a good left back (perhaps someone of the calibre of
> Wayne Bridge), I am sure NUFC has less worry at the back
> and with the midfield and the attack available, it is not
> unreasonable for any fan to expect a top 5 finish...

I was simply referring to a quote from Allardyce.  He 
didn't say he was aiming for a top five finish - he said 
that the easiest way for NUFC to qualify for Europe next 
year would be to win the Carling Cup.

As for his buys, he probably will strengthen NUFC in an 
absolute way compared to what Roeder had available.  The 
question is whether NUFC is strengthened in a relative way, 
i.e., whether his moves are better than those of the 
managers of the teams that have been playing at the same 
level as NUFC for the past few seasons.  When it comes 
right down to it, there's only one top five spot 
realistically available (barring a catastrophe at Arsenal), 
so a top five finish essentially means being the best of 
the remaining 16 teams.

Allardyce realizes that, I'm sure, but he obviously isn't 
ready to claim that spot for NUFC as he also realizes that 
the competition will be intense next season.


Paul

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul  wrote:

>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction" that 
>NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that the 
>best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next year is 
>to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your chances in 
>a knockout competition is easier than performing 
>consistently all season long.
>
>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>
>Paul
>
>
least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next year, eh.
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Chris F  wrote in 
news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
> wrote:
> 
>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>performing consistently all season long.
>>
>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>
> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
> year, eh.

Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
sad.

Paul

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:40:09 GMT, Paul  wrote:

>Chris F  wrote in 
>news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>
>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>
>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>> year, eh.
>
>Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
>performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
>thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
>stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
>will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
>in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
>saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
>sad.

except we don't.

everyone else thinks thats what we expect, but a lot of us are quite
level headed.

it's not unrealistic for our fans to expect we'll be top4, after all
we were only 5 years ago, when we were withink a whisker of actually
winning the league (before it all went pear shaped)

i don't think it;s sad that allardyce is saying the easiest way to
europe next year is the carling cup, i think it's honest. 
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I do not know where your ideas comes from, but as a lifelong NUFC fan, I must say that our new look 
team will do better than the last one under Roeder. The year before NUFC finished 7th in the Prem - 
and this was not too bad considering the crap players we had at the back. Sam has bought quality 
defenders in Rozehnal and Geremi to bolster the team. If he lands Beye and a good left back (perhaps 
someone of the calibre of Wayne Bridge), I am sure NUFC has less worry at the back and with the 
midfield and the attack available, it is not unreasonable for any fan to expect a top 5 finish... in 
fact I had a £20 bet going with a Spurs fan that 1) NUFC will finish 5th or better and 2) NUFC will 
finish above Tottenham Hotspur in the coming season.

I might be wrong, but then I may be right! As for Spurs' spending, I see it as a case of "a fool and 
his money are easily parted".

Philocophus

***********

"Paul"  wrote in message news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@199.185.223.74...
> Chris F  wrote in
> news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>
>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>
>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>> year, eh.
>
> Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the
> performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful
> thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to
> stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane
> will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be
> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current
> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's
> sad.
>
> Paul
>

"Philocophus"  wrote in 
news:f6r39f$abp$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk:

> I do not know where your ideas comes from, but as a
> lifelong NUFC fan, I must say that our new look 
> team will do better than the last one under Roeder. The
> year before NUFC finished 7th in the Prem - 
> and this was not too bad considering the crap players we
> had at the back. Sam has bought quality defenders in
> Rozehnal and Geremi to bolster the team. If he lands Beye
> and a good left back (perhaps someone of the calibre of
> Wayne Bridge), I am sure NUFC has less worry at the back
> and with the midfield and the attack available, it is not
> unreasonable for any fan to expect a top 5 finish...

I was simply referring to a quote from Allardyce.  He 
didn't say he was aiming for a top five finish - he said 
that the easiest way for NUFC to qualify for Europe next 
year would be to win the Carling Cup.

As for his buys, he probably will strengthen NUFC in an 
absolute way compared to what Roeder had available.  The 
question is whether NUFC is strengthened in a relative way, 
i.e., whether his moves are better than those of the 
managers of the teams that have been playing at the same 
level as NUFC for the past few seasons.  When it comes 
right down to it, there's only one top five spot 
realistically available (barring a catastrophe at Arsenal), 
so a top five finish essentially means being the best of 
the remaining 16 teams.

Allardyce realizes that, I'm sure, but he obviously isn't 
ready to claim that spot for NUFC as he also realizes that 
the competition will be intense next season.


Paul

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul  wrote:

>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction" that 
>NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that the 
>best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next year is 
>to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your chances in 
>a knockout competition is easier than performing 
>consistently all season long.
>
>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>
>Paul
>
>
least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next year, eh.
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Chris F  wrote in 
news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
> wrote:
> 
>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>performing consistently all season long.
>>
>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>
> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
> year, eh.

Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
sad.

Paul

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:40:09 GMT, Paul  wrote:

>Chris F  wrote in 
>news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>
>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>
>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>> year, eh.
>
>Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
>performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
>thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
>stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
>will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
>in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
>saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
>sad.

except we don't.

everyone else thinks thats what we expect, but a lot of us are quite
level headed.

it's not unrealistic for our fans to expect we'll be top4, after all
we were only 5 years ago, when we were withink a whisker of actually
winning the league (before it all went pear shaped)

i don't think it;s sad that allardyce is saying the easiest way to
europe next year is the carling cup, i think it's honest. 
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I do not know where your ideas comes from, but as a lifelong NUFC fan, I must say that our new look 
team will do better than the last one under Roeder. The year before NUFC finished 7th in the Prem - 
and this was not too bad considering the crap players we had at the back. Sam has bought quality 
defenders in Rozehnal and Geremi to bolster the team. If he lands Beye and a good left back (perhaps 
someone of the calibre of Wayne Bridge), I am sure NUFC has less worry at the back and with the 
midfield and the attack available, it is not unreasonable for any fan to expect a top 5 finish... in 
fact I had a £20 bet going with a Spurs fan that 1) NUFC will finish 5th or better and 2) NUFC will 
finish above Tottenham Hotspur in the coming season.

I might be wrong, but then I may be right! As for Spurs' spending, I see it as a case of "a fool and 
his money are easily parted".

Philocophus

***********

"Paul"  wrote in message news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@199.185.223.74...
> Chris F  wrote in
> news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>
>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>
>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>> year, eh.
>
> Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the
> performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful
> thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to
> stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane
> will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be
> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current
> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's
> sad.
>
> Paul
>

"Philocophus"  wrote in 
news:f6r39f$abp$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk:

> I do not know where your ideas comes from, but as a
> lifelong NUFC fan, I must say that our new look 
> team will do better than the last one under Roeder. The
> year before NUFC finished 7th in the Prem - 
> and this was not too bad considering the crap players we
> had at the back. Sam has bought quality defenders in
> Rozehnal and Geremi to bolster the team. If he lands Beye
> and a good left back (perhaps someone of the calibre of
> Wayne Bridge), I am sure NUFC has less worry at the back
> and with the midfield and the attack available, it is not
> unreasonable for any fan to expect a top 5 finish...

I was simply referring to a quote from Allardyce.  He 
didn't say he was aiming for a top five finish - he said 
that the easiest way for NUFC to qualify for Europe next 
year would be to win the Carling Cup.

As for his buys, he probably will strengthen NUFC in an 
absolute way compared to what Roeder had available.  The 
question is whether NUFC is strengthened in a relative way, 
i.e., whether his moves are better than those of the 
managers of the teams that have been playing at the same 
level as NUFC for the past few seasons.  When it comes 
right down to it, there's only one top five spot 
realistically available (barring a catastrophe at Arsenal), 
so a top five finish essentially means being the best of 
the remaining 16 teams.

Allardyce realizes that, I'm sure, but he obviously isn't 
ready to claim that spot for NUFC as he also realizes that 
the competition will be intense next season.


Paul

Paul  wrote in news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@
199.185.223.74:

> You folks believe you have a right to be 
> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
> sad.

Amzing how you know just what we think from right the way over in moose 
fucker land there. You know better than me, and I'm in Newcastle itself 
(sunny morning by the way, bit chilly for July. Postman's not been yet, but 
the paperboy has. But then you already know that). 

It would be sad if it were true that us "folks" (yeehaaa!) believe we have 
a right to be in the top four. It's not true of course, but don't let that 
stop you, I know there's fuck all else to do in the home of the mullet and 
the check shirt.

"Devoto"  wrote in message 
news:Xns9968551D087A2devotoblueyonderc@195.188.240.200...
> Paul  wrote in news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@
> 199.185.223.74:
>
>> You folks believe you have a right to be
>> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current
>> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's
>> sad.
>
> Amzing how you know just what we think from right the way over in moose
> fucker land there. You know better than me, and I'm in Newcastle itself
> (sunny morning by the way, bit chilly for July. Postman's not been yet, 
> but
> the paperboy has. But then you already know that).
>
> It would be sad if it were true that us "folks" (yeehaaa!) believe we have
> a right to be in the top four. It's not true of course, but don't let that
> stop you, I know there's fuck all else to do in the home of the mullet and
> the check shirt.

Now now, don't get all stroppy!!

He's probably influenced by the media's perception of Newcastle as being a 
'gnat's whisker off a being top four club'.  Oh, and the nuggets who always 
pop up on the phone-ins!!

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:40:09 +0000, Paul wrote:

> Chris F  wrote in 
> news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
> 
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>
>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>
>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>> year, eh.
> 
> Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
> performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
> thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
> stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
> will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
> sad.
> 
> Paul

I do agree with the fact that newcastle fans in general have a complex
about being a bigger club than we currently are....but talk of unrealistic
expectations makes me cringe....so when you say the fans think they have a
right to be in the top four well I can only say that compared to the other
teams in the top 4  we have spent the same if not more money in the
transfer market over the past 10 years, have bigger crowds than liverpool
and pay some of the highest wages in the premiership and so for that YES
we expect to be challenging the teams who we are competing financially
with, unfortunatley the money has been spent badly and far too often on
players to sell tickets and get puiblicity and not for the need of the
player themselves.  One thing I am impressed with Big Sam about is the
fact he has looked to strengthen the squad even with no money beign
available, he's been looking to get players in who can do a good job for
the team and not necessarily big name players..

Devoto  wrote in 
news:Xns9968551D087A2devotoblueyonderc@195.188.240.200:

> Paul  wrote in 
news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@
> 199.185.223.74:
> 
>> You folks believe you have a right to be 
>> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the
>> current saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup. 
>> That's sad.
> 
> Amzing how you know just what we think from right the way
> over in moose fucker land there. You know better than me,
> and I'm in Newcastle itself (sunny morning by the way,
> bit chilly for July. Postman's not been yet, but the
> paperboy has. But then you already know that). 
> 
> It would be sad if it were true that us "folks"
> (yeehaaa!) believe we have a right to be in the top four.
> It's not true of course, but don't let that stop you, I
> know there's fuck all else to do in the home of the
> mullet and the check shirt.

Hahahaha - you sure know how to put us colonials in our 
place.

All opinions of Mags fans posted by me in here are based on 
the actual tone and content of the postings I have been 
reading over the past ten years or so.  Generalizations may 
not apply to you personally, nor may they reflect the views 
of people who don't post in here.  

But then I don't get loaded up on twenty pints of broon, 
squeeze into a black and white shirt that barely covers my 
belly, and then smack the fat missus around before heading 
down to grab some fish and chips and take a punt on some 
reserves game somewhere just to get my fix :-)

Paul

Mark Scott  wrote in
news:pan.2007.07.09.11.20.24.714885@YouNOSpam.net: 

> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:40:09 +0000, Paul wrote:
> 
>> Chris F  wrote in 
>> news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 

>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states 
that
>>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>>
>>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>>
>>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>>> year, eh.
>> 
>> Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast 
the 
>> performance of the team agains the expectations / 
wishful 
>> thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle 
to 
>> stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
>> will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to 
be 
>> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the 
current 
>> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
>> sad.
>> 
>> Paul
> 
> I do agree with the fact that newcastle fans in general 
have a complex
> about being a bigger club than we currently are....but 
talk of
> unrealistic expectations makes me cringe....so when you 
say the fans
> think they have a right to be in the top four well I can 
only say that
> compared to the other teams in the top 4  we have spent 
the same if not
> more money in the transfer market over the past 10 years, 
have bigger
> crowds than liverpool and pay some of the highest wages 
in the
> premiership and so for that YES we expect to be 
challenging the teams
> who we are competing financially with, unfortunatley the 
money has been
> spent badly and far too often on players to sell tickets 
and get
> puiblicity and not for the need of the player themselves.  
One thing I
> am impressed with Big Sam about is the fact he has looked 
to strengthen
> the squad even with no money beign available, he's been 
looking to get
> players in who can do a good job for the team and not 
necessarily big
> name players.. 

Bravo.  The most intelligent response I've had since Colin 
stopped
posting. 

Paul

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul  wrote:

>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction" that 
>NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that the 
>best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next year is 
>to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your chances in 
>a knockout competition is easier than performing 
>consistently all season long.
>
>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>
>Paul
>
>
least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next year, eh.
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Chris F  wrote in 
news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
> wrote:
> 
>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>performing consistently all season long.
>>
>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>
> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
> year, eh.

Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
sad.

Paul

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:40:09 GMT, Paul  wrote:

>Chris F  wrote in 
>news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>
>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>
>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>> year, eh.
>
>Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
>performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
>thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
>stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
>will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
>in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
>saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
>sad.

except we don't.

everyone else thinks thats what we expect, but a lot of us are quite
level headed.

it's not unrealistic for our fans to expect we'll be top4, after all
we were only 5 years ago, when we were withink a whisker of actually
winning the league (before it all went pear shaped)

i don't think it;s sad that allardyce is saying the easiest way to
europe next year is the carling cup, i think it's honest. 
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I do not know where your ideas comes from, but as a lifelong NUFC fan, I must say that our new look 
team will do better than the last one under Roeder. The year before NUFC finished 7th in the Prem - 
and this was not too bad considering the crap players we had at the back. Sam has bought quality 
defenders in Rozehnal and Geremi to bolster the team. If he lands Beye and a good left back (perhaps 
someone of the calibre of Wayne Bridge), I am sure NUFC has less worry at the back and with the 
midfield and the attack available, it is not unreasonable for any fan to expect a top 5 finish... in 
fact I had a £20 bet going with a Spurs fan that 1) NUFC will finish 5th or better and 2) NUFC will 
finish above Tottenham Hotspur in the coming season.

I might be wrong, but then I may be right! As for Spurs' spending, I see it as a case of "a fool and 
his money are easily parted".

Philocophus

***********

"Paul"  wrote in message news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@199.185.223.74...
> Chris F  wrote in
> news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>
>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>
>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>> year, eh.
>
> Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the
> performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful
> thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to
> stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane
> will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be
> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current
> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's
> sad.
>
> Paul
>

"Philocophus"  wrote in 
news:f6r39f$abp$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk:

> I do not know where your ideas comes from, but as a
> lifelong NUFC fan, I must say that our new look 
> team will do better than the last one under Roeder. The
> year before NUFC finished 7th in the Prem - 
> and this was not too bad considering the crap players we
> had at the back. Sam has bought quality defenders in
> Rozehnal and Geremi to bolster the team. If he lands Beye
> and a good left back (perhaps someone of the calibre of
> Wayne Bridge), I am sure NUFC has less worry at the back
> and with the midfield and the attack available, it is not
> unreasonable for any fan to expect a top 5 finish...

I was simply referring to a quote from Allardyce.  He 
didn't say he was aiming for a top five finish - he said 
that the easiest way for NUFC to qualify for Europe next 
year would be to win the Carling Cup.

As for his buys, he probably will strengthen NUFC in an 
absolute way compared to what Roeder had available.  The 
question is whether NUFC is strengthened in a relative way, 
i.e., whether his moves are better than those of the 
managers of the teams that have been playing at the same 
level as NUFC for the past few seasons.  When it comes 
right down to it, there's only one top five spot 
realistically available (barring a catastrophe at Arsenal), 
so a top five finish essentially means being the best of 
the remaining 16 teams.

Allardyce realizes that, I'm sure, but he obviously isn't 
ready to claim that spot for NUFC as he also realizes that 
the competition will be intense next season.


Paul

Paul  wrote in news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@
199.185.223.74:

> You folks believe you have a right to be 
> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
> sad.

Amzing how you know just what we think from right the way over in moose 
fucker land there. You know better than me, and I'm in Newcastle itself 
(sunny morning by the way, bit chilly for July. Postman's not been yet, but 
the paperboy has. But then you already know that). 

It would be sad if it were true that us "folks" (yeehaaa!) believe we have 
a right to be in the top four. It's not true of course, but don't let that 
stop you, I know there's fuck all else to do in the home of the mullet and 
the check shirt.

"Devoto"  wrote in message 
news:Xns9968551D087A2devotoblueyonderc@195.188.240.200...
> Paul  wrote in news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@
> 199.185.223.74:
>
>> You folks believe you have a right to be
>> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current
>> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's
>> sad.
>
> Amzing how you know just what we think from right the way over in moose
> fucker land there. You know better than me, and I'm in Newcastle itself
> (sunny morning by the way, bit chilly for July. Postman's not been yet, 
> but
> the paperboy has. But then you already know that).
>
> It would be sad if it were true that us "folks" (yeehaaa!) believe we have
> a right to be in the top four. It's not true of course, but don't let that
> stop you, I know there's fuck all else to do in the home of the mullet and
> the check shirt.

Now now, don't get all stroppy!!

He's probably influenced by the media's perception of Newcastle as being a 
'gnat's whisker off a being top four club'.  Oh, and the nuggets who always 
pop up on the phone-ins!!

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:40:09 +0000, Paul wrote:

> Chris F  wrote in 
> news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
> 
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>
>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>
>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>> year, eh.
> 
> Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
> performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
> thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
> stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
> will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
> sad.
> 
> Paul

I do agree with the fact that newcastle fans in general have a complex
about being a bigger club than we currently are....but talk of unrealistic
expectations makes me cringe....so when you say the fans think they have a
right to be in the top four well I can only say that compared to the other
teams in the top 4  we have spent the same if not more money in the
transfer market over the past 10 years, have bigger crowds than liverpool
and pay some of the highest wages in the premiership and so for that YES
we expect to be challenging the teams who we are competing financially
with, unfortunatley the money has been spent badly and far too often on
players to sell tickets and get puiblicity and not for the need of the
player themselves.  One thing I am impressed with Big Sam about is the
fact he has looked to strengthen the squad even with no money beign
available, he's been looking to get players in who can do a good job for
the team and not necessarily big name players..

Devoto  wrote in 
news:Xns9968551D087A2devotoblueyonderc@195.188.240.200:

> Paul  wrote in 
news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@
> 199.185.223.74:
> 
>> You folks believe you have a right to be 
>> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the
>> current saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup. 
>> That's sad.
> 
> Amzing how you know just what we think from right the way
> over in moose fucker land there. You know better than me,
> and I'm in Newcastle itself (sunny morning by the way,
> bit chilly for July. Postman's not been yet, but the
> paperboy has. But then you already know that). 
> 
> It would be sad if it were true that us "folks"
> (yeehaaa!) believe we have a right to be in the top four.
> It's not true of course, but don't let that stop you, I
> know there's fuck all else to do in the home of the
> mullet and the check shirt.

Hahahaha - you sure know how to put us colonials in our 
place.

All opinions of Mags fans posted by me in here are based on 
the actual tone and content of the postings I have been 
reading over the past ten years or so.  Generalizations may 
not apply to you personally, nor may they reflect the views 
of people who don't post in here.  

But then I don't get loaded up on twenty pints of broon, 
squeeze into a black and white shirt that barely covers my 
belly, and then smack the fat missus around before heading 
down to grab some fish and chips and take a punt on some 
reserves game somewhere just to get my fix :-)

Paul

Mark Scott  wrote in
news:pan.2007.07.09.11.20.24.714885@YouNOSpam.net: 

> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:40:09 +0000, Paul wrote:
> 
>> Chris F  wrote in 
>> news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 

>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states 
that
>>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>>
>>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>>
>>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>>> year, eh.
>> 
>> Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast 
the 
>> performance of the team agains the expectations / 
wishful 
>> thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle 
to 
>> stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
>> will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to 
be 
>> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the 
current 
>> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
>> sad.
>> 
>> Paul
> 
> I do agree with the fact that newcastle fans in general 
have a complex
> about being a bigger club than we currently are....but 
talk of
> unrealistic expectations makes me cringe....so when you 
say the fans
> think they have a right to be in the top four well I can 
only say that
> compared to the other teams in the top 4  we have spent 
the same if not
> more money in the transfer market over the past 10 years, 
have bigger
> crowds than liverpool and pay some of the highest wages 
in the
> premiership and so for that YES we expect to be 
challenging the teams
> who we are competing financially with, unfortunatley the 
money has been
> spent badly and far too often on players to sell tickets 
and get
> puiblicity and not for the need of the player themselves.  
One thing I
> am impressed with Big Sam about is the fact he has looked 
to strengthen
> the squad even with no money beign available, he's been 
looking to get
> players in who can do a good job for the team and not 
necessarily big
> name players.. 

Bravo.  The most intelligent response I've had since Colin 
stopped
posting. 

Paul

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul  wrote:

>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction" that 
>NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that the 
>best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next year is 
>to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your chances in 
>a knockout competition is easier than performing 
>consistently all season long.
>
>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>
>Paul
>
>
least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next year, eh.
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Chris F  wrote in 
news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
> wrote:
> 
>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>performing consistently all season long.
>>
>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>
> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
> year, eh.

Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
sad.

Paul

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:40:09 GMT, Paul  wrote:

>Chris F  wrote in 
>news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>
>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>
>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>> year, eh.
>
>Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
>performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
>thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
>stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
>will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
>in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
>saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
>sad.

except we don't.

everyone else thinks thats what we expect, but a lot of us are quite
level headed.

it's not unrealistic for our fans to expect we'll be top4, after all
we were only 5 years ago, when we were withink a whisker of actually
winning the league (before it all went pear shaped)

i don't think it;s sad that allardyce is saying the easiest way to
europe next year is the carling cup, i think it's honest. 
-- 

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I do not know where your ideas comes from, but as a lifelong NUFC fan, I must say that our new look 
team will do better than the last one under Roeder. The year before NUFC finished 7th in the Prem - 
and this was not too bad considering the crap players we had at the back. Sam has bought quality 
defenders in Rozehnal and Geremi to bolster the team. If he lands Beye and a good left back (perhaps 
someone of the calibre of Wayne Bridge), I am sure NUFC has less worry at the back and with the 
midfield and the attack available, it is not unreasonable for any fan to expect a top 5 finish... in 
fact I had a £20 bet going with a Spurs fan that 1) NUFC will finish 5th or better and 2) NUFC will 
finish above Tottenham Hotspur in the coming season.

I might be wrong, but then I may be right! As for Spurs' spending, I see it as a case of "a fool and 
his money are easily parted".

Philocophus

***********

"Paul"  wrote in message news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@199.185.223.74...
> Chris F  wrote in
> news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>
>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>
>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>> year, eh.
>
> Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the
> performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful
> thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to
> stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane
> will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be
> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current
> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's
> sad.
>
> Paul
>

"Philocophus"  wrote in 
news:f6r39f$abp$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk:

> I do not know where your ideas comes from, but as a
> lifelong NUFC fan, I must say that our new look 
> team will do better than the last one under Roeder. The
> year before NUFC finished 7th in the Prem - 
> and this was not too bad considering the crap players we
> had at the back. Sam has bought quality defenders in
> Rozehnal and Geremi to bolster the team. If he lands Beye
> and a good left back (perhaps someone of the calibre of
> Wayne Bridge), I am sure NUFC has less worry at the back
> and with the midfield and the attack available, it is not
> unreasonable for any fan to expect a top 5 finish...

I was simply referring to a quote from Allardyce.  He 
didn't say he was aiming for a top five finish - he said 
that the easiest way for NUFC to qualify for Europe next 
year would be to win the Carling Cup.

As for his buys, he probably will strengthen NUFC in an 
absolute way compared to what Roeder had available.  The 
question is whether NUFC is strengthened in a relative way, 
i.e., whether his moves are better than those of the 
managers of the teams that have been playing at the same 
level as NUFC for the past few seasons.  When it comes 
right down to it, there's only one top five spot 
realistically available (barring a catastrophe at Arsenal), 
so a top five finish essentially means being the best of 
the remaining 16 teams.

Allardyce realizes that, I'm sure, but he obviously isn't 
ready to claim that spot for NUFC as he also realizes that 
the competition will be intense next season.


Paul

Paul  wrote in news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@
199.185.223.74:

> You folks believe you have a right to be 
> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
> sad.

Amzing how you know just what we think from right the way over in moose 
fucker land there. You know better than me, and I'm in Newcastle itself 
(sunny morning by the way, bit chilly for July. Postman's not been yet, but 
the paperboy has. But then you already know that). 

It would be sad if it were true that us "folks" (yeehaaa!) believe we have 
a right to be in the top four. It's not true of course, but don't let that 
stop you, I know there's fuck all else to do in the home of the mullet and 
the check shirt.

"Devoto"  wrote in message 
news:Xns9968551D087A2devotoblueyonderc@195.188.240.200...
> Paul  wrote in news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@
> 199.185.223.74:
>
>> You folks believe you have a right to be
>> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current
>> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's
>> sad.
>
> Amzing how you know just what we think from right the way over in moose
> fucker land there. You know better than me, and I'm in Newcastle itself
> (sunny morning by the way, bit chilly for July. Postman's not been yet, 
> but
> the paperboy has. But then you already know that).
>
> It would be sad if it were true that us "folks" (yeehaaa!) believe we have
> a right to be in the top four. It's not true of course, but don't let that
> stop you, I know there's fuck all else to do in the home of the mullet and
> the check shirt.

Now now, don't get all stroppy!!

He's probably influenced by the media's perception of Newcastle as being a 
'gnat's whisker off a being top four club'.  Oh, and the nuggets who always 
pop up on the phone-ins!!

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:40:09 +0000, Paul wrote:

> Chris F  wrote in 
> news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
> 
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>
>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>
>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>> year, eh.
> 
> Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
> performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
> thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
> stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
> will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
> sad.
> 
> Paul

I do agree with the fact that newcastle fans in general have a complex
about being a bigger club than we currently are....but talk of unrealistic
expectations makes me cringe....so when you say the fans think they have a
right to be in the top four well I can only say that compared to the other
teams in the top 4  we have spent the same if not more money in the
transfer market over the past 10 years, have bigger crowds than liverpool
and pay some of the highest wages in the premiership and so for that YES
we expect to be challenging the teams who we are competing financially
with, unfortunatley the money has been spent badly and far too often on
players to sell tickets and get puiblicity and not for the need of the
player themselves.  One thing I am impressed with Big Sam about is the
fact he has looked to strengthen the squad even with no money beign
available, he's been looking to get players in who can do a good job for
the team and not necessarily big name players..

Devoto  wrote in 
news:Xns9968551D087A2devotoblueyonderc@195.188.240.200:

> Paul  wrote in 
news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@
> 199.185.223.74:
> 
>> You folks believe you have a right to be 
>> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the
>> current saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup. 
>> That's sad.
> 
> Amzing how you know just what we think from right the way
> over in moose fucker land there. You know better than me,
> and I'm in Newcastle itself (sunny morning by the way,
> bit chilly for July. Postman's not been yet, but the
> paperboy has. But then you already know that). 
> 
> It would be sad if it were true that us "folks"
> (yeehaaa!) believe we have a right to be in the top four.
> It's not true of course, but don't let that stop you, I
> know there's fuck all else to do in the home of the
> mullet and the check shirt.

Hahahaha - you sure know how to put us colonials in our 
place.

All opinions of Mags fans posted by me in here are based on 
the actual tone and content of the postings I have been 
reading over the past ten years or so.  Generalizations may 
not apply to you personally, nor may they reflect the views 
of people who don't post in here.  

But then I don't get loaded up on twenty pints of broon, 
squeeze into a black and white shirt that barely covers my 
belly, and then smack the fat missus around before heading 
down to grab some fish and chips and take a punt on some 
reserves game somewhere just to get my fix :-)

Paul

Mark Scott  wrote in
news:pan.2007.07.09.11.20.24.714885@YouNOSpam.net: 

> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:40:09 +0000, Paul wrote:
> 
>> Chris F  wrote in 
>> news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 

>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states 
that
>>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>>
>>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>>
>>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>>> year, eh.
>> 
>> Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast 
the 
>> performance of the team agains the expectations / 
wishful 
>> thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle 
to 
>> stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
>> will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to 
be 
>> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the 
current 
>> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
>> sad.
>> 
>> Paul
> 
> I do agree with the fact that newcastle fans in general 
have a complex
> about being a bigger club than we currently are....but 
talk of
> unrealistic expectations makes me cringe....so when you 
say the fans
> think they have a right to be in the top four well I can 
only say that
> compared to the other teams in the top 4  we have spent 
the same if not
> more money in the transfer market over the past 10 years, 
have bigger
> crowds than liverpool and pay some of the highest wages 
in the
> premiership and so for that YES we expect to be 
challenging the teams
> who we are competing financially with, unfortunatley the 
money has been
> spent badly and far too often on players to sell tickets 
and get
> puiblicity and not for the need of the player themselves.  
One thing I
> am impressed with Big Sam about is the fact he has looked 
to strengthen
> the squad even with no money beign available, he's been 
looking to get
> players in who can do a good job for the team and not 
necessarily big
> name players.. 

Bravo.  The most intelligent response I've had since Colin 
stopped
posting. 

Paul

Paul  wrote in news:Xns99686BFFE37CEpaulgexpertcanmore@
199.185.223.74:

> Devoto  wrote in 
> news:Xns9968551D087A2devotoblueyonderc@195.188.240.200:
> 
>> Paul  wrote in 
> news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@
>> 199.185.223.74:
>> 
>>> You folks believe you have a right to be 
>>> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the
>>> current saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup. 
>>> That's sad.
>> 
>> Amzing how you know just what we think from right the way
>> over in moose fucker land there. You know better than me,
>> and I'm in Newcastle itself (sunny morning by the way,
>> bit chilly for July. Postman's not been yet, but the
>> paperboy has. But then you already know that). 
>> 
>> It would be sad if it were true that us "folks"
>> (yeehaaa!) believe we have a right to be in the top four.
>> It's not true of course, but don't let that stop you, I
>> know there's fuck all else to do in the home of the
>> mullet and the check shirt.
> 
> Hahahaha - you sure know how to put us colonials in our 
> place.

Hey, it's nowt to do with you being colonials. It's just that in my 
opinion, mullets, check shirts and fucking your sister is not acceptable 
behaviour for anyone. 
 
> All opinions of Mags fans posted by me in here are based on 
> the actual tone and content of the postings I have been 
> reading over the past ten years or so.  

Surely you must have a statistical analysis to back that up though?

Paul  wrote in news:Xns99686C5A42B8paulgexpertcanmore@
199.185.223.74:

> Bravo.  The most intelligent response I've had since Colin 
> stopped
> posting. 

Fuck me. You sound like my old teacher.

"Devoto"  wrote in message 
news:Xns99695BFB68EE6devotoblueyonderc@195.188.240.200...
> Paul  wrote in news:Xns99686BFFE37CEpaulgexpertcanmore@
> 199.185.223.74:
>
>> Devoto  wrote in
>> news:Xns9968551D087A2devotoblueyonderc@195.188.240.200:
>>
>>> Paul  wrote in
>> news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@
>>> 199.185.223.74:
>>>
>>>> You folks believe you have a right to be
>>>> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the
>>>> current saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.
>>>> That's sad.
>>>
>>> Amzing how you know just what we think from right the way
>>> over in moose fucker land there. You know better than me,
>>> and I'm in Newcastle itself (sunny morning by the way,
>>> bit chilly for July. Postman's not been yet, but the
>>> paperboy has. But then you already know that).
>>>
>>> It would be sad if it were true that us "folks"
>>> (yeehaaa!) believe we have a right to be in the top four.
>>> It's not true of course, but don't let that stop you, I
>>> know there's fuck all else to do in the home of the
>>> mullet and the check shirt.
>>
>> Hahahaha - you sure know how to put us colonials in our
>> place.
>
> Hey, it's nowt to do with you being colonials. It's just that in my
> opinion, mullets, check shirts and fucking your sister is not acceptable
> behaviour for anyone.
>
>> All opinions of Mags fans posted by me in here are based on
>> the actual tone and content of the postings I have been
>> reading over the past ten years or so.
>
> Surely you must have a statistical analysis to back that up though?
Why aye man!!  Like we all keep stats on our newsgroup usage!!  :-)

On 8 Jul, 17:27, "Philocophus"  wrote:
> I do not know where your ideas comes from, but as a lifelong NUFC fan, I must say that our new look
> team will do better than the last one under Roeder. The year before NUFC finished 7th in the Prem -
> and this was not too bad considering the crap players we had at the back. Sam has bought quality
> defenders in Rozehnal and Geremi to bolster the team. If he lands Beye and a good left back (perhaps
> someone of the calibre of Wayne Bridge), I am sure NUFC has less worry at the back and with the
> midfield and the attack available, it is not unreasonable for any fan to expect a top 5 finish... in
> fact I had a £20 bet going with a Spurs fan that 1) NUFC will finish 5th or better and 2) NUFC will
> finish above Tottenham Hotspur in the coming season.
>
> I might be wrong, but then I may be right! As for Spurs' spending, I see it as a case of "a fool and
> his money are easily parted".
>
> Philocophus
>
> ***********
>
> "Paul"  wrote in messagenews:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@199.185.223.74...
> > Chris F  wrote in
> >news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>
> >> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
> >>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
> >>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
> >>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
> >>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
> >>>performing consistently all season long.
>
> >>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>
> >> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
> >> year, eh.
>
> > Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the
> > performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful
> > thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to
> > stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane
> > will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be
> > in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current
> > saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's
> > sad.
>
> > Paul

I 've got mates who are Spurs fans and i lost similar bets with them
for the last 2 years- they finished  ahead of us in the league. I
think Spurs will push Arse for the 4th spot this year and we should
qualify for Europe via league positions. I cant see us winning the
league cup or the FA cup as manure and chelsea will again go for these
two cups as (especially in manure's case) they wont win the CL- unless
that winker starts diving about and winning penalties in crucial
games.  ;-)

Devoto  wrote in 
news:Xns99695C3EEA71Bdevotoblueyonderc@195.188.240.200:

> Paul  wrote in
> news:Xns99686C5A42B8paulgexpertcanmore@
> 199.185.223.74:
> 
>> Bravo.  The most intelligent response I've had since
>> Colin stopped posting. 
> 
> Fuck me. You sound like my old teacher.

Maybe he was onto something :-)

Paul

Paul  wrote in news:Xns99695929D3A99paulgexpertcanmore@
199.185.223.78:

> Devoto  wrote in 
> news:Xns99695C3EEA71Bdevotoblueyonderc@195.188.240.200:
> 
>> Paul  wrote in
>> news:Xns99686C5A42B8paulgexpertcanmore@
>> 199.185.223.74:
>> 
>>> Bravo.  The most intelligent response I've had since
>>> Colin stopped posting. 
>> 
>> Fuck me. You sound like my old teacher.
> 
> Maybe he was onto something :-)

Got me suspended when I was 16 and tried to get me expelled, the auld cunt.   
He always said "bravo" though, that's what I remember. Although not when he 
got me suspended.

"'Nel'"  wrote in
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> 
> "Devoto"  wrote in message 
> news:Xns99695BFB68EE6devotoblueyonderc@195.188.240.200...
>> Paul  wrote in
>> news:Xns99686BFFE37CEpaulgexpertcanmore@ 199.185.223.74:

>>> All opinions of Mags fans posted by me in here are based on
>>> the actual tone and content of the postings I have been
>>> reading over the past ten years or so.
>>
>> Surely you must have a statistical analysis to back that up though?

> Why aye man!!  Like we all keep stats on our newsgroup usage!!  :-) 

Paul, Statto, lists of calculations and statistics? Ah, never mind. I bet 
he got it.

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul  wrote:

>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction" that 
>NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that the 
>best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next year is 
>to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your chances in 
>a knockout competition is easier than performing 
>consistently all season long.
>
>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>
>Paul
>
>
least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next year, eh.
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Chris F  wrote in 
news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
> wrote:
> 
>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>performing consistently all season long.
>>
>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>
> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
> year, eh.

Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
sad.

Paul

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:40:09 GMT, Paul  wrote:

>Chris F  wrote in 
>news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>
>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>
>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>> year, eh.
>
>Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the 
>performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful 
>thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to 
>stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane 
>will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be 
>in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
>saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
>sad.

except we don't.

everyone else thinks thats what we expect, but a lot of us are quite
level headed.

it's not unrealistic for our fans to expect we'll be top4, after all
we were only 5 years ago, when we were withink a whisker of actually
winning the league (before it all went pear shaped)

i don't think it;s sad that allardyce is saying the easiest way to
europe next year is the carling cup, i think it's honest. 
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I do not know where your ideas comes from, but as a lifelong NUFC fan, I must say that our new look 
team will do better than the last one under Roeder. The year before NUFC finished 7th in the Prem - 
and this was not too bad considering the crap players we had at the back. Sam has bought quality 
defenders in Rozehnal and Geremi to bolster the team. If he lands Beye and a good left back (perhaps 
someone of the calibre of Wayne Bridge), I am sure NUFC has less worry at the back and with the 
midfield and the attack available, it is not unreasonable for any fan to expect a top 5 finish... in 
fact I had a £20 bet going with a Spurs fan that 1) NUFC will finish 5th or better and 2) NUFC will 
finish above Tottenham Hotspur in the coming season.

I might be wrong, but then I may be right! As for Spurs' spending, I see it as a case of "a fool and 
his money are easily parted".

Philocophus

***********

"Paul"  wrote in message news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@199.185.223.74...
> Chris F  wrote in
> news:mpj0939h0ocfms7144fniquo7t2jb47qv1@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:16:37 GMT, Paul 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>BBC says that BSA describes Europe as a "distraction"
>>>that NUFC doesn't have this year and he then states that
>>>the best chance NUFC have of qualifying for Europe next
>>>year is to win the Carling Cup :-)  I guess taking your
>>>chances in a knockout competition is easier than
>>>performing consistently all season long.
>>>
>>>Better start dusting out that cabinet.....
>>>
>> least we're not buyin players to bring us back up next
>> year, eh.
>
> Maybe you are :-)  As always, my point is to contrast the
> performance of the team agains the expectations / wishful
> thinking of the fans.  We know we're going to struggle to
> stay up next year, but I for one am confident that Keane
> will pull it off.  You folks believe you have a right to be
> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current
> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's
> sad.
>
> Paul
>

"Philocophus"  wrote in 
news:f6r39f$abp$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk:

> I do not know where your ideas comes from, but as a
> lifelong NUFC fan, I must say that our new look 
> team will do better than the last one under Roeder. The
> year before NUFC finished 7th in the Prem - 
> and this was not too bad considering the crap players we
> had at the back. Sam has bought quality defenders in
> Rozehnal and Geremi to bolster the team. If he lands Beye
> and a good left back (perhaps someone of the calibre of
> Wayne Bridge), I am sure NUFC has less worry at the back
> and with the midfield and the attack available, it is not
> unreasonable for any fan to expect a top 5 finish...

I was simply referring to a quote from Allardyce.  He 
didn't say he was aiming for a top five finish - he said 
that the easiest way for NUFC to qualify for Europe next 
year would be to win the Carling Cup.

As for his buys, he probably will strengthen NUFC in an 
absolute way compared to what Roeder had available.  The 
question is whether NUFC is strengthened in a relative way, 
i.e., whether his moves are better than those of the 
managers of the teams that have been playing at the same 
level as NUFC for the past few seasons.  When it comes 
right down to it, there's only one top five spot 
realistically available (barring a catastrophe at Arsenal), 
so a top five finish essentially means being the best of 
the remaining 16 teams.

Allardyce realizes that, I'm sure, but he obviously isn't 
ready to claim that spot for NUFC as he also realizes that 
the competition will be intense next season.


Paul

Paul  wrote in news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@
199.185.223.74:

> You folks believe you have a right to be 
> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current 
> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's 
> sad.

Amzing how you know just what we think from right the way over in moose 
fucker land there. You know better than me, and I'm in Newcastle itself 
(sunny morning by the way, bit chilly for July. Postman's not been yet, but 
the paperboy has. But then you already know that). 

It would be sad if it were true that us "folks" (yeehaaa!) believe we have 
a right to be in the top four. It's not true of course, but don't let that 
stop you, I know there's fuck all else to do in the home of the mullet and 
the check shirt.

"Devoto"  wrote in message 
news:Xns9968551D087A2devotoblueyonderc@195.188.240.200...
> Paul  wrote in news:Xns9966E69ECE57Fpaulgexpertcanmore@
> 199.185.223.74:
>
>> You folks believe you have a right to be
>> in the top four and be a top team in Europe and the current
>> saviour, BSA, pins his hopes on the Carling Cup.  That's
>> sad.
>
> Amzing how you know just what we think from right the way over in moose
> fucker land there. You know better than me, and I'm in Newcastle itself
> (sunny morning by the way, bit chilly for July. Postman's not been yet, 
> but
> the paperboy has. But then you already know that).
>
> It would be sad if it were true that us "folks" (yeehaaa!) believe we have
> a right to be in the top four. It's not true of course, but don't let that
> stop you, I know there's fuck all else to do in the home of the mullet and
> the check shirt.

Now now, don't get all stroppy!!

He's probably influenced by the media's perception of Newcastle as being a 
'gnat's whisker off a being top four club'.  Oh, and the nuggets who always 
pop up on the phone-ins!!