So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
seasoned defenders.
I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
off.
I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
is very important.
I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
we'll see.
Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

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http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
Current eBay auctions: http://tinyurl.com/hutcb
360, DS, PS2 and Saturn Games For Auction.

I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
Current eBay auctions: http://tinyurl.com/hutcb
360, DS, PS2 and Saturn Games For Auction.

I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
Current eBay auctions: http://tinyurl.com/hutcb
360, DS, PS2 and Saturn Games For Auction.

I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
Current eBay auctions: http://tinyurl.com/hutcb
360, DS, PS2 and Saturn Games For Auction.

I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
Current eBay auctions: http://tinyurl.com/hutcb
360, DS, PS2 and Saturn Games For Auction.

I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

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I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

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http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
Current eBay auctions: http://tinyurl.com/hutcb
360, DS, PS2 and Saturn Games For Auction.

I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

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http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
Current eBay auctions: http://tinyurl.com/hutcb
360, DS, PS2 and Saturn Games For Auction.

I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
Current eBay auctions: http://tinyurl.com/hutcb
360, DS, PS2 and Saturn Games For Auction.

I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
Current eBay auctions: http://tinyurl.com/hutcb
360, DS, PS2 and Saturn Games For Auction.

I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
Current eBay auctions: http://tinyurl.com/hutcb
360, DS, PS2 and Saturn Games For Auction.

I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
Current eBay auctions: http://tinyurl.com/hutcb
360, DS, PS2 and Saturn Games For Auction.

I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

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I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
Current eBay auctions: http://tinyurl.com/hutcb
360, DS, PS2 and Saturn Games For Auction.

I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
Current eBay auctions: http://tinyurl.com/hutcb
360, DS, PS2 and Saturn Games For Auction.

I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
Current eBay auctions: http://tinyurl.com/hutcb
360, DS, PS2 and Saturn Games For Auction.

I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.

Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
good.

Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.

I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.

Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
Premiership and Europe.

Philocophus

****************

"Seafarer"  wrote in message 
news:46800daf.932171@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> So now we will have Taylor and Rozenhnall? in defence so who is next?
> Do we go with the youngsters Ramage etc or do we look for more solid
> seasoned defenders.
> I'm pretty hopeful looking at Big Sam,if Martins,Owen,Viduka all play
> and with Dyer[uninjured ],we should score a few.I think Shola may be
> off.
> I guess we really need a solid midfield as Milner will shine this
> season and I'm not sure about N'Zogbia[WTF is his problem?thought he
> was going to be a cracking player] so the central midfield with Dyer
> is very important.
> I don't know where Sam intends to retry Lugue or if Emre will stay but
> we'll see.
> Guess he needs more signings but I look forward to the season.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:32:42 +0100, "Philocophus"
 wrote:

>I think Sam is looking for an in-depth team with ample replacements in case of injuries.
>Rozenhal has a proven track record as a central defender with PSG and I for one am looking forward 
>to welcoming him. We still need defenders to replace Carr and Babayaro.
>
>Frankly I am not keen on Ramage. He did well when the team were in the doldrums, but his 
>backpassings have been in the main disastrous - we cannot afford to lose vital games that way. 
>Taylor will improve playing alongside established centre-backs; Bramble and Moore were not that 
>good.
>
>Both Carr and Babayaro must go - keeping them both are a waste of money in terms of salaries. Saving 
>on their salaries means NUFC can get better affordable players.
>
>I agree with you that Milner will shine in the coming season. I think N'zogbia will also shine. His 
>problem over the last season may have been that he was injured and as a consequence felt insecure 
>about his position. The management team under Roeder was substandard whereas with Sam he uses 
>professional and scientific approach. This is something we will have to see for ourselves.
>
someone knit satan a sweater, he must be getting cold down there cos i
agree with everything you just wrote! ;)

>Why Sam wants to keep Luque is beyond me. To me, Luque is a player who is totally unsuited to the 
>style of football  typical of the English Premiership. It will be interesting to see what Sam will 
>be doing and how he will perform as a manager. My gut feeling is that NUFC will do far better than 
>the previous 4 seasons but it may be another year before the team makes the dizzy heights of the 
>Premiership and Europe.
>
i don't think it's so much a case of Sam wanting to keep him, as it is
that no one else seems to want him so Sam might as well and try to get
something out of the guy.

Who knows he may manage it, he turned Ivan Campo's career round when
he was thought of as nothing more than "that shit defender from Real
Madrid with the big hair"

i think with the right additions at fullback, and another new centre
half, we've got a good shout for a UEFA spot.

just have to wait and see, i guess.
-- 

gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk
Current eBay auctions: http://tinyurl.com/hutcb
360, DS, PS2 and Saturn Games For Auction.