I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
fucking pissed ... 

Maybe I'll start supporting ManU ...

Nah I'm not that much of twat ...

Hulker69 wrote:
> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
> fucking pissed ... 

true mate.

a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)

We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
  ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.

Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
the teeth to all toon fans (imo)

would a change in manager be good.... yes and no

No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
side lines.

I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers 
who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of 
managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have 
got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and 
gave roeder the job.

I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this 
must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.

On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker, 
Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny 
they can get and giving no performance back.

looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of 
games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we 
could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.

Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and gone....

Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a 
few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also 
got a good youth set up going.

Sven.... god no.

Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the 
club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

Hulker69 wrote:
> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
> fucking pissed ... 

true mate.

a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)

We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
  ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.

Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
the teeth to all toon fans (imo)

would a change in manager be good.... yes and no

No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
side lines.

I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers 
who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of 
managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have 
got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and 
gave roeder the job.

I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this 
must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.

On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker, 
Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny 
they can get and giving no performance back.

looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of 
games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we 
could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.

Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and gone....

Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a 
few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also 
got a good youth set up going.

Sven.... god no.

Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the 
club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

Hulker69 wrote:
> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
> fucking pissed ... 

true mate.

a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)

We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
  ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.

Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
the teeth to all toon fans (imo)

would a change in manager be good.... yes and no

No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
side lines.

I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers 
who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of 
managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have 
got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and 
gave roeder the job.

I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this 
must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.

On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker, 
Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny 
they can get and giving no performance back.

looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of 
games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we 
could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.

Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and gone....

Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a 
few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also 
got a good youth set up going.

Sven.... god no.

Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the 
club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

Hulker69 wrote:
> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
> fucking pissed ... 

true mate.

a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)

We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
  ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.

Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
the teeth to all toon fans (imo)

would a change in manager be good.... yes and no

No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
side lines.

I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers 
who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of 
managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have 
got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and 
gave roeder the job.

I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this 
must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.

On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker, 
Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny 
they can get and giving no performance back.

looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of 
games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we 
could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.

Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and gone....

Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a 
few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also 
got a good youth set up going.

Sven.... god no.

Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the 
club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

Hulker69 wrote:
> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
> fucking pissed ... 

true mate.

a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)

We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
  ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.

Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
the teeth to all toon fans (imo)

would a change in manager be good.... yes and no

No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
side lines.

I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers 
who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of 
managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have 
got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and 
gave roeder the job.

I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this 
must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.

On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker, 
Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny 
they can get and giving no performance back.

looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of 
games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we 
could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.

Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and gone....

Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a 
few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also 
got a good youth set up going.

Sven.... god no.

Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the 
club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

Hulker69 wrote:
> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
> fucking pissed ... 

true mate.

a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)

We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
  ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.

Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
the teeth to all toon fans (imo)

would a change in manager be good.... yes and no

No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
side lines.

I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers 
who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of 
managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have 
got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and 
gave roeder the job.

I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this 
must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.

On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker, 
Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny 
they can get and giving no performance back.

looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of 
games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we 
could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.

Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and gone....

Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a 
few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also 
got a good youth set up going.

Sven.... god no.

Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the 
club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

Hulker69 wrote:
> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
> fucking pissed ... 

true mate.

a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)

We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
  ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.

Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
the teeth to all toon fans (imo)

would a change in manager be good.... yes and no

No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
side lines.

I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers 
who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of 
managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have 
got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and 
gave roeder the job.

I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this 
must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.

On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker, 
Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny 
they can get and giving no performance back.

looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of 
games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we 
could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.

Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and gone....

Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a 
few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also 
got a good youth set up going.

Sven.... god no.

Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the 
club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

Hulker69 wrote:
> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
> fucking pissed ... 

true mate.

a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)

We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
  ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.

Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
the teeth to all toon fans (imo)

would a change in manager be good.... yes and no

No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
side lines.

I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers 
who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of 
managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have 
got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and 
gave roeder the job.

I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this 
must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.

On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker, 
Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny 
they can get and giving no performance back.

looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of 
games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we 
could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.

Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and gone....

Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a 
few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also 
got a good youth set up going.

Sven.... god no.

Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the 
club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

Hulker69 wrote:
> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
> fucking pissed ... 

true mate.

a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)

We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
  ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.

Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
the teeth to all toon fans (imo)

would a change in manager be good.... yes and no

No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
side lines.

I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers 
who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of 
managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have 
got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and 
gave roeder the job.

I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this 
must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.

On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker, 
Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny 
they can get and giving no performance back.

looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of 
games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we 
could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.

Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and gone....

Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a 
few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also 
got a good youth set up going.

Sven.... god no.

Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the 
club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

On Sat, 05 May 2007 20:21:37 +0100, bri@n wrote:

> Hulker69 wrote:
>> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
>> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
>> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
>> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
>> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
>> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
>> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
>> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
>> fucking pissed ... 
> 
> true mate.
> 
> a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
> shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)
> 
> We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
> not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
>   ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.
> 

Not helped by Owens injury in the World cup.  A support striker was
planned - not a goalscorer...

> Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
> the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
> Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
> meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
> the teeth to all toon fans (imo)
> 

Keiron Dyer is a disgrace and I think roeder gave him the armband to try
and win everyone over as Dyer seems to have a lot of influence at the
club...maybe not now that titus and co are leaving.

> would a change in manager be good.... yes and no
> 
> No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
> club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Well if the rumours are true and Big Sam is appointed then I think we will
be saying fare-thee-well to most of the current misfits that call
themselves staff at this club.  he will want things done properly and his
way!

> Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
> goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
> side lines.

Well I don't even think his motivaion was the only problem.  Just cause he
doesn't scream and yell doesn't mean he can't motivate.  The main problem
is that his tactics when everyone was fit is juts not good enough - he
wasn't strong enough to drop players who were perceived as big name
players and played them all together even when it was clear it didn't work
and that the youngsters were playing better when they had to come in for
injuries.

> I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers
> who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of
> managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have
> got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and
> gave roeder the job.

Well Houllier has said a few time he is interested inthe job so there one
good name i'd be happy with.

> I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this
> must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.
> 
> On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker,
> Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny
> they can get and giving no performance back.
> 
> looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of
> games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we
> could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.
> 
> Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and
> gone....
> 
> Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a
> few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also
> got a good youth set up going.
> 
> Sven.... god no.
> 
> Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the
> club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

All in all I think we will see a big clearout of players.  Parker has
thrown his dummy out the pram and to be honest its his own fault.  You
don't have a go at the home fans when you are captain no matter what. 
Shay wouldn't, Taylor wouldn't Shola wouldn't and big Al certainly
wouldn't.   These players know what sort of thing the fans expect and
Parker clearly thinks he is bigger than he is like duff, cause they played
for chelsea - someone need sto remind them they don't any more so they
weren't that good!  We need players with passion or something to prove. 
Players with a good work ethic.  Players who, after disgracing the club by
having a fight with their own team-mate on the pitch, feel it neccessary
to put their bling on before coming out to the TV cameras to make a forced
apology.  More committment, more passion and the place will rock once
more....oh and a decent manager would be nice :)

Hulker69 wrote:
> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
> fucking pissed ... 

true mate.

a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)

We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
  ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.

Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
the teeth to all toon fans (imo)

would a change in manager be good.... yes and no

No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
side lines.

I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers 
who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of 
managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have 
got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and 
gave roeder the job.

I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this 
must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.

On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker, 
Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny 
they can get and giving no performance back.

looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of 
games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we 
could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.

Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and gone....

Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a 
few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also 
got a good youth set up going.

Sven.... god no.

Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the 
club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

On Sat, 05 May 2007 20:21:37 +0100, bri@n wrote:

> Hulker69 wrote:
>> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
>> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
>> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
>> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
>> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
>> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
>> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
>> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
>> fucking pissed ... 
> 
> true mate.
> 
> a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
> shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)
> 
> We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
> not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
>   ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.
> 

Not helped by Owens injury in the World cup.  A support striker was
planned - not a goalscorer...

> Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
> the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
> Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
> meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
> the teeth to all toon fans (imo)
> 

Keiron Dyer is a disgrace and I think roeder gave him the armband to try
and win everyone over as Dyer seems to have a lot of influence at the
club...maybe not now that titus and co are leaving.

> would a change in manager be good.... yes and no
> 
> No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
> club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Well if the rumours are true and Big Sam is appointed then I think we will
be saying fare-thee-well to most of the current misfits that call
themselves staff at this club.  he will want things done properly and his
way!

> Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
> goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
> side lines.

Well I don't even think his motivaion was the only problem.  Just cause he
doesn't scream and yell doesn't mean he can't motivate.  The main problem
is that his tactics when everyone was fit is juts not good enough - he
wasn't strong enough to drop players who were perceived as big name
players and played them all together even when it was clear it didn't work
and that the youngsters were playing better when they had to come in for
injuries.

> I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers
> who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of
> managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have
> got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and
> gave roeder the job.

Well Houllier has said a few time he is interested inthe job so there one
good name i'd be happy with.

> I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this
> must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.
> 
> On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker,
> Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny
> they can get and giving no performance back.
> 
> looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of
> games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we
> could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.
> 
> Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and
> gone....
> 
> Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a
> few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also
> got a good youth set up going.
> 
> Sven.... god no.
> 
> Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the
> club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

All in all I think we will see a big clearout of players.  Parker has
thrown his dummy out the pram and to be honest its his own fault.  You
don't have a go at the home fans when you are captain no matter what. 
Shay wouldn't, Taylor wouldn't Shola wouldn't and big Al certainly
wouldn't.   These players know what sort of thing the fans expect and
Parker clearly thinks he is bigger than he is like duff, cause they played
for chelsea - someone need sto remind them they don't any more so they
weren't that good!  We need players with passion or something to prove. 
Players with a good work ethic.  Players who, after disgracing the club by
having a fight with their own team-mate on the pitch, feel it neccessary
to put their bling on before coming out to the TV cameras to make a forced
apology.  More committment, more passion and the place will rock once
more....oh and a decent manager would be nice :)

Hulker69 wrote:
> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
> fucking pissed ... 

true mate.

a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)

We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
  ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.

Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
the teeth to all toon fans (imo)

would a change in manager be good.... yes and no

No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
side lines.

I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers 
who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of 
managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have 
got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and 
gave roeder the job.

I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this 
must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.

On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker, 
Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny 
they can get and giving no performance back.

looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of 
games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we 
could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.

Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and gone....

Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a 
few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also 
got a good youth set up going.

Sven.... god no.

Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the 
club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

On Sat, 05 May 2007 20:21:37 +0100, bri@n wrote:

> Hulker69 wrote:
>> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
>> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
>> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
>> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
>> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
>> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
>> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
>> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
>> fucking pissed ... 
> 
> true mate.
> 
> a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
> shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)
> 
> We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
> not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
>   ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.
> 

Not helped by Owens injury in the World cup.  A support striker was
planned - not a goalscorer...

> Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
> the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
> Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
> meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
> the teeth to all toon fans (imo)
> 

Keiron Dyer is a disgrace and I think roeder gave him the armband to try
and win everyone over as Dyer seems to have a lot of influence at the
club...maybe not now that titus and co are leaving.

> would a change in manager be good.... yes and no
> 
> No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
> club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Well if the rumours are true and Big Sam is appointed then I think we will
be saying fare-thee-well to most of the current misfits that call
themselves staff at this club.  he will want things done properly and his
way!

> Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
> goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
> side lines.

Well I don't even think his motivaion was the only problem.  Just cause he
doesn't scream and yell doesn't mean he can't motivate.  The main problem
is that his tactics when everyone was fit is juts not good enough - he
wasn't strong enough to drop players who were perceived as big name
players and played them all together even when it was clear it didn't work
and that the youngsters were playing better when they had to come in for
injuries.

> I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers
> who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of
> managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have
> got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and
> gave roeder the job.

Well Houllier has said a few time he is interested inthe job so there one
good name i'd be happy with.

> I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this
> must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.
> 
> On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker,
> Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny
> they can get and giving no performance back.
> 
> looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of
> games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we
> could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.
> 
> Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and
> gone....
> 
> Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a
> few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also
> got a good youth set up going.
> 
> Sven.... god no.
> 
> Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the
> club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

All in all I think we will see a big clearout of players.  Parker has
thrown his dummy out the pram and to be honest its his own fault.  You
don't have a go at the home fans when you are captain no matter what. 
Shay wouldn't, Taylor wouldn't Shola wouldn't and big Al certainly
wouldn't.   These players know what sort of thing the fans expect and
Parker clearly thinks he is bigger than he is like duff, cause they played
for chelsea - someone need sto remind them they don't any more so they
weren't that good!  We need players with passion or something to prove. 
Players with a good work ethic.  Players who, after disgracing the club by
having a fight with their own team-mate on the pitch, feel it neccessary
to put their bling on before coming out to the TV cameras to make a forced
apology.  More committment, more passion and the place will rock once
more....oh and a decent manager would be nice :)

Hulker69 wrote:
> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
> fucking pissed ... 

true mate.

a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)

We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
  ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.

Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
the teeth to all toon fans (imo)

would a change in manager be good.... yes and no

No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
side lines.

I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers 
who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of 
managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have 
got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and 
gave roeder the job.

I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this 
must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.

On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker, 
Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny 
they can get and giving no performance back.

looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of 
games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we 
could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.

Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and gone....

Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a 
few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also 
got a good youth set up going.

Sven.... god no.

Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the 
club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

On Sat, 05 May 2007 20:21:37 +0100, bri@n wrote:

> Hulker69 wrote:
>> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
>> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
>> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
>> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
>> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
>> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
>> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
>> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
>> fucking pissed ... 
> 
> true mate.
> 
> a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
> shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)
> 
> We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
> not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
>   ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.
> 

Not helped by Owens injury in the World cup.  A support striker was
planned - not a goalscorer...

> Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
> the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
> Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
> meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
> the teeth to all toon fans (imo)
> 

Keiron Dyer is a disgrace and I think roeder gave him the armband to try
and win everyone over as Dyer seems to have a lot of influence at the
club...maybe not now that titus and co are leaving.

> would a change in manager be good.... yes and no
> 
> No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
> club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Well if the rumours are true and Big Sam is appointed then I think we will
be saying fare-thee-well to most of the current misfits that call
themselves staff at this club.  he will want things done properly and his
way!

> Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
> goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
> side lines.

Well I don't even think his motivaion was the only problem.  Just cause he
doesn't scream and yell doesn't mean he can't motivate.  The main problem
is that his tactics when everyone was fit is juts not good enough - he
wasn't strong enough to drop players who were perceived as big name
players and played them all together even when it was clear it didn't work
and that the youngsters were playing better when they had to come in for
injuries.

> I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers
> who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of
> managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have
> got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and
> gave roeder the job.

Well Houllier has said a few time he is interested inthe job so there one
good name i'd be happy with.

> I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this
> must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.
> 
> On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker,
> Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny
> they can get and giving no performance back.
> 
> looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of
> games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we
> could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.
> 
> Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and
> gone....
> 
> Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a
> few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also
> got a good youth set up going.
> 
> Sven.... god no.
> 
> Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the
> club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

All in all I think we will see a big clearout of players.  Parker has
thrown his dummy out the pram and to be honest its his own fault.  You
don't have a go at the home fans when you are captain no matter what. 
Shay wouldn't, Taylor wouldn't Shola wouldn't and big Al certainly
wouldn't.   These players know what sort of thing the fans expect and
Parker clearly thinks he is bigger than he is like duff, cause they played
for chelsea - someone need sto remind them they don't any more so they
weren't that good!  We need players with passion or something to prove. 
Players with a good work ethic.  Players who, after disgracing the club by
having a fight with their own team-mate on the pitch, feel it neccessary
to put their bling on before coming out to the TV cameras to make a forced
apology.  More committment, more passion and the place will rock once
more....oh and a decent manager would be nice :)

Hulker69 wrote:
> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
> fucking pissed ... 

true mate.

a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)

We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
  ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.

Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
the teeth to all toon fans (imo)

would a change in manager be good.... yes and no

No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
side lines.

I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers 
who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of 
managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have 
got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and 
gave roeder the job.

I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this 
must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.

On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker, 
Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny 
they can get and giving no performance back.

looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of 
games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we 
could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.

Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and gone....

Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a 
few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also 
got a good youth set up going.

Sven.... god no.

Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the 
club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

On Sat, 05 May 2007 20:21:37 +0100, bri@n wrote:

> Hulker69 wrote:
>> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
>> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
>> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
>> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
>> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
>> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
>> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
>> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
>> fucking pissed ... 
> 
> true mate.
> 
> a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
> shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)
> 
> We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
> not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
>   ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.
> 

Not helped by Owens injury in the World cup.  A support striker was
planned - not a goalscorer...

> Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
> the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
> Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
> meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
> the teeth to all toon fans (imo)
> 

Keiron Dyer is a disgrace and I think roeder gave him the armband to try
and win everyone over as Dyer seems to have a lot of influence at the
club...maybe not now that titus and co are leaving.

> would a change in manager be good.... yes and no
> 
> No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
> club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Well if the rumours are true and Big Sam is appointed then I think we will
be saying fare-thee-well to most of the current misfits that call
themselves staff at this club.  he will want things done properly and his
way!

> Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
> goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
> side lines.

Well I don't even think his motivaion was the only problem.  Just cause he
doesn't scream and yell doesn't mean he can't motivate.  The main problem
is that his tactics when everyone was fit is juts not good enough - he
wasn't strong enough to drop players who were perceived as big name
players and played them all together even when it was clear it didn't work
and that the youngsters were playing better when they had to come in for
injuries.

> I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers
> who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of
> managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have
> got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and
> gave roeder the job.

Well Houllier has said a few time he is interested inthe job so there one
good name i'd be happy with.

> I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this
> must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.
> 
> On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker,
> Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny
> they can get and giving no performance back.
> 
> looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of
> games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we
> could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.
> 
> Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and
> gone....
> 
> Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a
> few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also
> got a good youth set up going.
> 
> Sven.... god no.
> 
> Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the
> club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

All in all I think we will see a big clearout of players.  Parker has
thrown his dummy out the pram and to be honest its his own fault.  You
don't have a go at the home fans when you are captain no matter what. 
Shay wouldn't, Taylor wouldn't Shola wouldn't and big Al certainly
wouldn't.   These players know what sort of thing the fans expect and
Parker clearly thinks he is bigger than he is like duff, cause they played
for chelsea - someone need sto remind them they don't any more so they
weren't that good!  We need players with passion or something to prove. 
Players with a good work ethic.  Players who, after disgracing the club by
having a fight with their own team-mate on the pitch, feel it neccessary
to put their bling on before coming out to the TV cameras to make a forced
apology.  More committment, more passion and the place will rock once
more....oh and a decent manager would be nice :)

Hulker69 wrote:
> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
> fucking pissed ... 

true mate.

a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)

We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
  ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.

Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
the teeth to all toon fans (imo)

would a change in manager be good.... yes and no

No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
side lines.

I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers 
who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of 
managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have 
got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and 
gave roeder the job.

I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this 
must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.

On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker, 
Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny 
they can get and giving no performance back.

looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of 
games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we 
could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.

Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and gone....

Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a 
few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also 
got a good youth set up going.

Sven.... god no.

Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the 
club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

On Sat, 05 May 2007 20:21:37 +0100, bri@n wrote:

> Hulker69 wrote:
>> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
>> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
>> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
>> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
>> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
>> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
>> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
>> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
>> fucking pissed ... 
> 
> true mate.
> 
> a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
> shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)
> 
> We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
> not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
>   ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.
> 

Not helped by Owens injury in the World cup.  A support striker was
planned - not a goalscorer...

> Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
> the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
> Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
> meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
> the teeth to all toon fans (imo)
> 

Keiron Dyer is a disgrace and I think roeder gave him the armband to try
and win everyone over as Dyer seems to have a lot of influence at the
club...maybe not now that titus and co are leaving.

> would a change in manager be good.... yes and no
> 
> No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
> club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Well if the rumours are true and Big Sam is appointed then I think we will
be saying fare-thee-well to most of the current misfits that call
themselves staff at this club.  he will want things done properly and his
way!

> Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
> goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
> side lines.

Well I don't even think his motivaion was the only problem.  Just cause he
doesn't scream and yell doesn't mean he can't motivate.  The main problem
is that his tactics when everyone was fit is juts not good enough - he
wasn't strong enough to drop players who were perceived as big name
players and played them all together even when it was clear it didn't work
and that the youngsters were playing better when they had to come in for
injuries.

> I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers
> who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of
> managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have
> got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and
> gave roeder the job.

Well Houllier has said a few time he is interested inthe job so there one
good name i'd be happy with.

> I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this
> must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.
> 
> On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker,
> Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny
> they can get and giving no performance back.
> 
> looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of
> games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we
> could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.
> 
> Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and
> gone....
> 
> Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a
> few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also
> got a good youth set up going.
> 
> Sven.... god no.
> 
> Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the
> club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

All in all I think we will see a big clearout of players.  Parker has
thrown his dummy out the pram and to be honest its his own fault.  You
don't have a go at the home fans when you are captain no matter what. 
Shay wouldn't, Taylor wouldn't Shola wouldn't and big Al certainly
wouldn't.   These players know what sort of thing the fans expect and
Parker clearly thinks he is bigger than he is like duff, cause they played
for chelsea - someone need sto remind them they don't any more so they
weren't that good!  We need players with passion or something to prove. 
Players with a good work ethic.  Players who, after disgracing the club by
having a fight with their own team-mate on the pitch, feel it neccessary
to put their bling on before coming out to the TV cameras to make a forced
apology.  More committment, more passion and the place will rock once
more....oh and a decent manager would be nice :)

Hulker69 wrote:
> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
> fucking pissed ... 

true mate.

a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)

We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
  ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.

Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
the teeth to all toon fans (imo)

would a change in manager be good.... yes and no

No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
side lines.

I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers 
who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of 
managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have 
got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and 
gave roeder the job.

I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this 
must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.

On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker, 
Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny 
they can get and giving no performance back.

looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of 
games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we 
could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.

Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and gone....

Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a 
few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also 
got a good youth set up going.

Sven.... god no.

Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the 
club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

On Sat, 05 May 2007 20:21:37 +0100, bri@n wrote:

> Hulker69 wrote:
>> I didn't get to the match today, me mate had my ticket, but listened
>> to it on BBC Newcastle. What a fucking shambles! Sad, sad, sad. What
>> is to be done. Is a new manager the right answer? I really don't know
>> anymore. The players (except for a few who deserve better) just don't
>> see to give a flying feck. Thank god we weren't in a relegation battle
>> cos this lot would have bottled it. FFS to go? Two third of the team
>> to be replaced? Yet another fucking manager? Christ, what a mess. And
>> all this before the season ticket prices come out. I'm officially
>> fucking pissed ... 
> 
> true mate.
> 
> a shocking season but we should have known what was going to happen when 
> shrek didn't give roeder money for players (roeder wanted)
> 
> We needed defenders as well as a forward or two but for Roeders rule of 
> not going for anyone over 26 we missed out on a couple of players. But I 
>   ask myself if this came from Shepherd and not roeder.
> 

Not helped by Owens injury in the World cup.  A support striker was
planned - not a goalscorer...

> Roeder did a great job last season but he has found it hard because of 
> the lack of players and players not doing as they are told on the pitch. 
> Not for the first time Dyer when fit has not played where he was/is 
> meant to play... and to make him captain against reading was a kick in 
> the teeth to all toon fans (imo)
> 

Keiron Dyer is a disgrace and I think roeder gave him the armband to try
and win everyone over as Dyer seems to have a lot of influence at the
club...maybe not now that titus and co are leaving.

> would a change in manager be good.... yes and no
> 
> No because the sh*t playing staff we have will think they can milk the 
> club and fans for another season with a new manager coming in.

Well if the rumours are true and Big Sam is appointed then I think we will
be saying fare-thee-well to most of the current misfits that call
themselves staff at this club.  he will want things done properly and his
way!

> Yes because we need someone who can motivate the players when we go a 
> goal down. Not like roeder who doesn't seem to have the presence on the 
> side lines.

Well I don't even think his motivaion was the only problem.  Just cause he
doesn't scream and yell doesn't mean he can't motivate.  The main problem
is that his tactics when everyone was fit is juts not good enough - he
wasn't strong enough to drop players who were perceived as big name
players and played them all together even when it was clear it didn't work
and that the youngsters were playing better when they had to come in for
injuries.

> I heard on the radio some sh*t reporter saying we only go for managers
> who are out of work or about to get sacked..... There were loads of
> managers who have better skills on and off the pitch who we could have
> got but shrek didn't bother getting off his fat @$$ to talk to them and
> gave roeder the job.

Well Houllier has said a few time he is interested inthe job so there one
good name i'd be happy with.

> I say for the sake of the club we have to say goodbye to Roeder and this
> must happen as soon as possible and not after 2 games of the new season.
> 
> On the playing side I would like to see Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Parker,
> Luque and Dyer to go. They are milking the club and fans for every penny
> they can get and giving no performance back.
> 
> looking at the way a couple of them have played over the last couple of
> games it looks like they know they are going, get rid of Dyer and we
> could get 3 or even 4 players in for the wages he's on.
> 
> Who should we get in as manager.... Keegan, his era has come and
> gone....
> 
> Allardyce, has a proven track record of getting older players to give a
> few more season and good performances. Can also find a bargain and also
> got a good youth set up going.
> 
> Sven.... god no.
> 
> Also whoever is buying the shares I wish they would make a move for the
> club so we can get rid of shrek once and for all

All in all I think we will see a big clearout of players.  Parker has
thrown his dummy out the pram and to be honest its his own fault.  You
don't have a go at the home fans when you are captain no matter what. 
Shay wouldn't, Taylor wouldn't Shola wouldn't and big Al certainly
wouldn't.   These players know what sort of thing the fans expect and
Parker clearly thinks he is bigger than he is like duff, cause they played
for chelsea - someone need sto remind them they don't any more so they
weren't that good!  We need players with passion or something to prove. 
Players with a good work ethic.  Players who, after disgracing the club by
having a fight with their own team-mate on the pitch, feel it neccessary
to put their bling on before coming out to the TV cameras to make a forced
apology.  More committment, more passion and the place will rock once
more....oh and a decent manager would be nice :)