Looking for some advice on Vista for anyone who's got it or had it. MY 
sister has only gone and stuck it on her pc and i'm struggling to connect 
it to the net. I can get connected to the router (although not to the web 
page part) and it appears to be downloading updates but it won't let me on 
to any webpages.

Any ideas?

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sme

"sme"  wrote in message 
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> Looking for some advice on Vista for anyone who's got it or had it. MY
> sister has only gone and stuck it on her pc and i'm struggling to connect
> it to the net. I can get connected to the router (although not to the web
> page part) and it appears to be downloading updates but it won't let me on
> to any webpages.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> -- 
> sme

Vista seems to be a bit of a pain in the backside, cant wait for service 
pack 2. I had problems mapping a drive on my old XP machine with my new 
Vista one. It showed up in the network map but i couldnt connect to it. 
After trying loads of different things, it turned out that it was the subnet 
on the network card that was different on the Vista machine, one machine, 
the xp one, was showing 255.255.255.0 and the other was 255.255.0.0
I dont know whether you use dhcp or manually assign your machines ip but it 
might be worth a try having a look at the cards properties just in case.


V.O.R

"Voice of Reason"  wrote in
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> 
> "sme"  wrote in message 
> news:6dslssF465iaU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Looking for some advice on Vista for anyone who's got it or had it.
>> MY sister has only gone and stuck it on her pc and i'm struggling to
>> connect it to the net. I can get connected to the router (although
>> not to the web page part) and it appears to be downloading updates
>> but it won't let me on to any webpages.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> -- 
>> sme
> 
> Vista seems to be a bit of a pain in the backside, cant wait for
> service pack 2. I had problems mapping a drive on my old XP machine
> with my new Vista one. It showed up in the network map but i couldnt
> connect to it. After trying loads of different things, it turned out
> that it was the subnet on the network card that was different on the
> Vista machine, one machine, the xp one, was showing 255.255.255.0 and
> the other was 255.255.0.0 I dont know whether you use dhcp or manually
> assign your machines ip but it might be worth a try having a look at
> the cards properties just in case. 

Thanks i'll have a look. Can't understand how i can do windows update and 
antivirus updates yet can't connect to a webpage. can't even get the 
router page up even though checking it on another pc it recognises the 
vista pc?!?

infuriating stuff!

> V.O.R

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sme

"sme"  wrote in message 
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> "Voice of Reason"  wrote in
> news:CsednSzKf_OZceTVRVnyugA@posted.plusnet:
>
>>
>> "sme"  wrote in message
>> news:6dslssF465iaU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> Looking for some advice on Vista for anyone who's got it or had it.
>>> MY sister has only gone and stuck it on her pc and i'm struggling to
>>> connect it to the net. I can get connected to the router (although
>>> not to the web page part) and it appears to be downloading updates
>>> but it won't let me on to any webpages.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> sme
>>
>> Vista seems to be a bit of a pain in the backside, cant wait for
>> service pack 2. I had problems mapping a drive on my old XP machine
>> with my new Vista one. It showed up in the network map but i couldnt
>> connect to it. After trying loads of different things, it turned out
>> that it was the subnet on the network card that was different on the
>> Vista machine, one machine, the xp one, was showing 255.255.255.0 and
>> the other was 255.255.0.0 I dont know whether you use dhcp or manually
>> assign your machines ip but it might be worth a try having a look at
>> the cards properties just in case.
>
> Thanks i'll have a look. Can't understand how i can do windows update and
> antivirus updates yet can't connect to a webpage. can't even get the
> router page up even though checking it on another pc it recognises the
> vista pc?!?
>
> infuriating stuff!
>
>> V.O.R
>
> -- 
> sme


Could also just be a simple firewall problem, you could try shutting down 
the windows based one and any other one you have installed one at a time to 
see if that makes any difference. I had Zonealarm free edition installed and 
although i could browse the net etc it wouldnt allow me to run ccXgui as a 
server to stream films etc to my xbox from my pc, worked fine when i 
disabled it though. I even gave the ccXgui server rights in Zonealarm but 
still no joy. I had to eventually do a complete clean uninstall of Zonealarm 
and then reinstall it. Worked fine after that.
-- 

V.O.R.

"sme"  wrote in message 
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> Can't understand how i can do windows update and
> antivirus updates yet can't connect to a webpage. can't even get the
> router page up even though checking it on another pc it recognises the
> vista pc?!?
>
> infuriating stuff!
>
> sme

It's not the browser security settings is it?

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:58:19 GMT and in uk.sport.football.clubs.celtic, 
Angof wrote....

> 
> "sme"  wrote in message 
> news:6du983F4bijrU1@mid.individual.net...
> 
>> Can't understand how i can do windows update and
>> antivirus updates yet can't connect to a webpage. can't even get the
>> router page up even though checking it on another pc it recognises the
>> vista pc?!?
>>
>> infuriating stuff!
>>
>> sme
> 
> It's not the browser security settings is it?

Tried that. Even put google webpage in my trusted sites as well with 
everything turned to low, still nothing. The more i read up on it the 
more i'm glad i'm still on XP. Seems as though loads of people have had 
problems connecting to the net with vista. Quite a lot of it stems from 
the IPv6 protocol but i turned that off.

I'll probably just end up telling her to buy XP. Its not as expensive as 
it was.

-- 
sme
The obscure we see eventually.  The completely obvious, it seems, takes 
longer.  ~Edward R. Murrow

In article , padraigog@gmail.com 
says...
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:58:19 GMT and in uk.sport.football.clubs.celtic, 
> Angof wrote....
> 
> > 
> > "sme"  wrote in message 
> > news:6du983F4bijrU1@mid.individual.net...
> > 
> >> Can't understand how i can do windows update and
> >> antivirus updates yet can't connect to a webpage. can't even get the
> >> router page up even though checking it on another pc it recognises the
> >> vista pc?!?
> >>
> >> infuriating stuff!
> >>
> >> sme
> > 
> > It's not the browser security settings is it?
> 
> Tried that. Even put google webpage in my trusted sites as well with 
> everything turned to low, still nothing. The more i read up on it the 
> more i'm glad i'm still on XP. Seems as though loads of people have had 
> problems connecting to the net with vista. Quite a lot of it stems from 
> the IPv6 protocol but i turned that off.
> 
> I'll probably just end up telling her to buy XP. Its not as expensive as 
> it was.

Have you tried another browser?

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:51:51 GMT and in uk.sport.football.clubs.celtic,
Jim Mason wrote.... 

> In article ,
> padraigog@gmail.com says...
>> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:58:19 GMT and in
>> uk.sport.football.clubs.celtic, Angof wrote....
>> 
>> > 
>> > "sme"  wrote in message 
>> > news:6du983F4bijrU1@mid.individual.net...
>> > 
>> >> Can't understand how i can do windows update and
>> >> antivirus updates yet can't connect to a webpage. can't even get
>> >> the router page up even though checking it on another pc it
>> >> recognises the vista pc?!?
>> >>
>> >> infuriating stuff!
>> >>
>> >> sme
>> > 
>> > It's not the browser security settings is it?
>> 
>> Tried that. Even put google webpage in my trusted sites as well with 
>> everything turned to low, still nothing. The more i read up on it the
>> more i'm glad i'm still on XP. Seems as though loads of people have
>> had problems connecting to the net with vista. Quite a lot of it
>> stems from the IPv6 protocol but i turned that off.
>> 
>> I'll probably just end up telling her to buy XP. Its not as expensive
>> as it was.
> 
> Have you tried another browser?

was tempted to download firefox or opera with this pc and install it onto 
hers but think there is more to this than that (although will give it a 
shot). Although i said it downloads updates it appears to be very slow 
when doing it. Not sure if this is just a vista thing or linked to the 
problem.

-- 
sme
The obscure we see eventually.  The completely obvious, it seems, takes 
longer.  ~Edward R. Murrow

"sme"  wrote in message 
news:Xns9ADB941335E6Fpadraigogocola@130.133.1.4...
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:51:51 GMT and in uk.sport.football.clubs.celtic,
> Jim Mason wrote....
>
>> In article ,
>> padraigog@gmail.com says...
>>> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:58:19 GMT and in
>>> uk.sport.football.clubs.celtic, Angof wrote....
>>>
>>> >
>>> > "sme"  wrote in message
>>> > news:6du983F4bijrU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> >
>>> >> Can't understand how i can do windows update and
>>> >> antivirus updates yet can't connect to a webpage. can't even get
>>> >> the router page up even though checking it on another pc it
>>> >> recognises the vista pc?!?
>>> >>
>>> >> infuriating stuff!
>>> >>
>>> >> sme
>>> >
>>> > It's not the browser security settings is it?
>>>
>>> Tried that. Even put google webpage in my trusted sites as well with
>>> everything turned to low, still nothing. The more i read up on it the
>>> more i'm glad i'm still on XP. Seems as though loads of people have
>>> had problems connecting to the net with vista. Quite a lot of it
>>> stems from the IPv6 protocol but i turned that off.
>>>
>>> I'll probably just end up telling her to buy XP. Its not as expensive
>>> as it was.
>>
>> Have you tried another browser?
>
> was tempted to download firefox or opera with this pc and install it onto
> hers but think there is more to this than that (although will give it a
> shot). Although i said it downloads updates it appears to be very slow
> when doing it. Not sure if this is just a vista thing or linked to the
> problem.

Apparently there has been a recent 'silent' update to IE7 which has caused a 
few folk (including myself) to have problems connecting.
Its not so much connecting, as it will still show as connected to the 
internet (hence why you can download Win updates) but it cannot negotiate 
past DNS or something.

After having this problem and trying all sorts of various diagnostics and 
command lines with the very helpful "George" on the BT Broadband technical 
help line, I managed to get it sorted out with a simple settings change.

I'm on XP and have never used a Vista machine, so you'll have to work out 
where these settings are on your version of stuff.

Basically the update changed network and hub settings to a manual 
configuration.
All you have to do is plonk it back onto Automatic detection, close IE and 
then open it again.

Here its:
Internet Options>Connections>Lan Settings> Check "Automatically detect 
settings" and leave the rest unchecked.

Worked for me and a few other people I know had the same issue - It *may* 
have been a BT issue where the settings have been over-ridden for whatever 
reason. Worth having a look to see if your auto settings are on though.

biz
>
> -- 
> sme
> The obscure we see eventually.  The completely obvious, it seems, takes
> longer.  ~Edward R. Murrow

"  \\¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/" <moc.liamG@aynezib> wrote in
news:bbudnbXFM75UwebVnZ2dnUVZ8jydnZ2d@bt.com: 

> 
> Here its:
> Internet Options>Connections>Lan Settings> Check "Automatically detect
> settings" and leave the rest unchecked.
> 
> Worked for me and a few other people I know had the same issue - It
> *may* have been a BT issue where the settings have been over-ridden
> for whatever reason. Worth having a look to see if your auto settings
> are on though.

Did that already. for some reason i always check this first, must have 
happened to me in the past. :-)

I'll try another browser and pass it back to her. She can stop being so 
cheap and put it into a shop and let them figure it out. :-)

-- 
sme