What goes around comes around:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/2951361.stm

Rangers forward Ronald de Boer has branded Old Firm rivals Celtic moaners 
for protesting over fixture congestion.
I listened to and watched that Rangers game the other night
Was not impressed
Why Rangers supporters pay to watch that rubbish is beyond me
The fans were singing the Sash and all the other songs
I wonder what religion is of each member of the Rangers Team.





"yethob"  wrote in message 
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> What goes around comes around:
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/2951361.stm
>

Rangers forward Ronald de Boer has branded Old Firm rivals Celtic moaners 
for protesting over fixture congestion.
I listened to and watched that Rangers game the other night
Was not impressed
Why Rangers supporters pay to watch that rubbish is beyond me
The fans were singing the Sash and all the other songs
I wonder what religion is of each member of the Rangers Team.





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Smith seem's very upset by Peter Lawwell's comments, maybe he should stop 
moaning and focus on playing all those games he needs to catch up. Also what 
does Old Watty mean by

"What bothers me most is that the SPL have assented to every request that 
has been made by Celtic..."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/scotland/article3818959.ece?Submitted=true

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> "yethob"  wrote in message
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>> What goes around comes around:
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/2951361.stm
>
> Smith seem's very upset by Peter Lawwell's comments, maybe he should stop 
> moaning and focus on playing all those games he needs to catch up. Also 
> what does Old Watty mean by
>
> "What bothers me most is that the SPL have assented to every request that 
> has been made by Celtic..."
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/scotland/article3818959.ece?Submitted=true

What an embarassment! Almost reminiscent of Keegan losing the plot when 
Fergie wound him up a few years ago. I wonder what would happen if he was 
really put under pressure with a defeat at the weekend - unfortunately can't 
see that happening again though.

I always thought fairly highly of WS in terms of his media personna and the 
way he handled himself with integrity. But the way he walked out on Scotland 
and then showed hypocrisy over a couple of issues shows him up in a 
different light. Someone remind me about those issues again, I think one had 
to do with Scott Brown and the other was related to call-offs from the 
Scotland squad. Could be wrong though.

"liam"  wrote in message 
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> "yethob"  wrote in message
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>> What goes around comes around:
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/2951361.stm
>
> Smith seem's very upset by Peter Lawwell's comments, maybe he should stop 
> moaning and focus on playing all those games he needs to catch up. Also 
> what does Old Watty mean by
>
> "What bothers me most is that the SPL have assented to every request that 
> has been made by Celtic..."
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/scotland/article3818959.ece?Submitted=true
>

Thought WS insisted that Rangers would not be looking for an extension and 
that they would leave it up to the SPL !!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/7328229.stm

That was only about 3 weks ago too!

JB

"Jonbhoy" wrote
>
> Thought WS insisted that Rangers would not be looking for an extension and 
> that they would leave it up to the SPL !!!!

"But can I just clarify no-one from Rangers has ever asked the SPL to extend 
the season and we will not ask them to extend the season."
Walter three weeks ago...

"I thought it was a reasonably simple request to extend the season but maybe 
I was being naive."
Walter yesterday...

A complete contradiction or what...Scotland's shame have lost the plot.

"ZB"  wrote in message
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> "liam"  wrote in message 
> news:48125881$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> "yethob"  wrote in message
>> news:0283156e$0$18000$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> What goes around comes around:
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/2951361.stm
>>
>> Smith seem's very upset by Peter Lawwell's comments, maybe he should stop 
>> moaning and focus on playing all those games he needs to catch up. Also 
>> what does Old Watty mean by
>>
>> "What bothers me most is that the SPL have assented to every request that 
>> has been made by Celtic..."
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/scotland/article3818959.ece?Submitted=true
>
> What an embarassment! Almost reminiscent of Keegan losing the plot when 
> Fergie wound him up a few years ago. I wonder what would happen if he was 
> really put under pressure with a defeat at the weekend - unfortunately 
> can't see that happening again though.

The Keegan analogy is apposite since he's went for Peter Lawwell like a 
rabid dog. Clearly Lawwell is protecting his own. I'd expect Rangers to 
state their case too, although they denied they would. But for a football 
manager to publicly question Lawwell's honesty on this, does sound like WS 
has lost it.

> I always thought fairly highly of WS in terms of his media personna and 
> the way he handled himself with integrity. But the way he walked out on 
> Scotland and then showed hypocrisy over a couple of issues shows him up in 
> a different light. Someone remind me about those issues again, I think one 
> had to do with Scott Brown and the other was related to call-offs from the 
> Scotland squad. Could be wrong though.

Is this the one where he contradicted himself while Scotland manager.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/hibernian/6204818.stm

I thought Smith did alright in the media and also had some good achievements 
in the game. But he left Scotland high and dry, after telling players to 
stick to their contracts. Now he's lost it over the league extension. 
Scotland's shame are feeling the pressure.

liam wrote:
> "ZB"  wrote in message
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>> "liam"  wrote in message
>> news:48125881$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>> "yethob"  wrote in message
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>>>> What goes around comes around:
>>>>
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/2951361.stm
>>>
>>> Smith seem's very upset by Peter Lawwell's comments, maybe he
>>> should stop moaning and focus on playing all those games he needs
>>> to catch up. Also what does Old Watty mean by
>>>
>>> "What bothers me most is that the SPL have assented to every
>>> request that has been made by Celtic..."
>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/scotland/article3818959.ece?Submitted=true
>>
>> What an embarassment! Almost reminiscent of Keegan losing the plot
>> when Fergie wound him up a few years ago. I wonder what would happen
>> if he was really put under pressure with a defeat at the weekend -
>> unfortunately can't see that happening again though.
>
> The Keegan analogy is apposite since he's went for Peter Lawwell like
> a rabid dog. Clearly Lawwell is protecting his own. I'd expect
> Rangers to state their case too, although they denied they would. But
> for a football manager to publicly question Lawwell's honesty on
> this, does sound like WS has lost it.
>

Smith is spot on when he says Lawell should just admit he wants Rangers to 
play as many games in a week as possible, since that benefits his side. 
Nowt wrong with that, but he could at least be honest about it.  All this 
guff about "integrity" is just that - guff.

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> liam wrote:
>> "ZB"  wrote in message
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>>> "liam"  wrote in message
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>>>> "yethob"  wrote in message
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>>>>> What goes around comes around:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/2951361.stm
>>>>
>>>> Smith seem's very upset by Peter Lawwell's comments, maybe he
>>>> should stop moaning and focus on playing all those games he needs
>>>> to catch up. Also what does Old Watty mean by
>>>>
>>>> "What bothers me most is that the SPL have assented to every
>>>> request that has been made by Celtic..."
>>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/scotland/article3818959.ece?Submitted=true
>>>
>>> What an embarassment! Almost reminiscent of Keegan losing the plot
>>> when Fergie wound him up a few years ago. I wonder what would happen
>>> if he was really put under pressure with a defeat at the weekend -
>>> unfortunately can't see that happening again though.
>>
>> The Keegan analogy is apposite since he's went for Peter Lawwell like
>> a rabid dog. Clearly Lawwell is protecting his own. I'd expect
>> Rangers to state their case too, although they denied they would. But
>> for a football manager to publicly question Lawwell's honesty on
>> this, does sound like WS has lost it.
>>
>
> Smith is spot on when he says Lawell should just admit he wants Rangers to 
> play as many games in a week as possible, since that benefits his side. 
> Nowt wrong with that, but he could at least be honest about it.  All this 
> guff about "integrity" is just that - guff.

Lets be real about this , both Lawell and WS look pretty silly over this at 
the moment!

JB

"liam"  wrote in message 
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> "Jonbhoy" wrote
>>
>> Thought WS insisted that Rangers would not be looking for an extension 
>> and that they would leave it up to the SPL !!!!
>
> "But can I just clarify no-one from Rangers has ever asked the SPL to 
> extend the season and we will not ask them to extend the season."
> Walter three weeks ago...
>
> "I thought it was a reasonably simple request to extend the season but 
> maybe I was being naive."
> Walter yesterday...
>
> A complete contradiction or what...Scotland's shame have lost the plot.

While winning what will be a shit more than our closest rivals.

Gotta love a Mercurial Madcap Genius manager such as Smith.... I mean 
imagine questioning the suggestions that his team play 4 games in 8 days ... 
he really is a total nutjob, gotta love that... ;-)

Jonbhoy wrote:
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>> liam wrote:
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>>>>>> What goes around comes around:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/2951361.stm
>>>>>
>>>>> Smith seem's very upset by Peter Lawwell's comments, maybe he
>>>>> should stop moaning and focus on playing all those games he needs
>>>>> to catch up. Also what does Old Watty mean by
>>>>>
>>>>> "What bothers me most is that the SPL have assented to every
>>>>> request that has been made by Celtic..."
>>>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/scotland/article3818959.ece?Submitted=true
>>>>
>>>> What an embarassment! Almost reminiscent of Keegan losing the plot
>>>> when Fergie wound him up a few years ago. I wonder what would
>>>> happen if he was really put under pressure with a defeat at the
>>>> weekend - unfortunately can't see that happening again though.
>>>
>>> The Keegan analogy is apposite since he's went for Peter Lawwell
>>> like a rabid dog. Clearly Lawwell is protecting his own. I'd expect
>>> Rangers to state their case too, although they denied they would.
>>> But for a football manager to publicly question Lawwell's honesty on
>>> this, does sound like WS has lost it.
>>>
>>
>> Smith is spot on when he says Lawell should just admit he wants
>> Rangers to play as many games in a week as possible, since that
>> benefits his side. Nowt wrong with that, but he could at least be
>> honest about it.  All this guff about "integrity" is just that -
>> guff.
>
> Lets be real about this , both Lawell and WS look pretty silly over
> this at the moment!
>
> JB

They do.  I'm glad at least 1 tim admits Lawell looks stupid too.

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> Jonbhoy wrote:
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>>>>>>> What goes around comes around:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/2951361.stm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Smith seem's very upset by Peter Lawwell's comments, maybe he
>>>>>> should stop moaning and focus on playing all those games he needs
>>>>>> to catch up. Also what does Old Watty mean by
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "What bothers me most is that the SPL have assented to every
>>>>>> request that has been made by Celtic..."
>>>>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/scotland/article3818959.ece?Submitted=true
>>>>>
>>>>> What an embarassment! Almost reminiscent of Keegan losing the plot
>>>>> when Fergie wound him up a few years ago. I wonder what would
>>>>> happen if he was really put under pressure with a defeat at the
>>>>> weekend - unfortunately can't see that happening again though.
>>>>
>>>> The Keegan analogy is apposite since he's went for Peter Lawwell
>>>> like a rabid dog. Clearly Lawwell is protecting his own. I'd expect
>>>> Rangers to state their case too, although they denied they would.
>>>> But for a football manager to publicly question Lawwell's honesty on
>>>> this, does sound like WS has lost it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Smith is spot on when he says Lawell should just admit he wants
>>> Rangers to play as many games in a week as possible, since that
>>> benefits his side. Nowt wrong with that, but he could at least be
>>> honest about it.  All this guff about "integrity" is just that -
>>> guff.
>>
>> Lets be real about this , both Lawell and WS look pretty silly over
>> this at the moment!
>>
>> JB
>
> They do.  I'm glad at least 1 tim admits Lawell looks stupid too.

I think he has tried to do the PC thing but should have either kept quiet or 
just said he feels it would give Rangers an unfair advantage.Rangers want 
extra time which would give them an advantage,and Celtic dont want that for 
the same reason.....nothing unusual with that ! And WS should have kept 
quiet too instead of making himself look just as stupid.Only talking that 
needs to be done is on the pitch.If Celtic lose on sunday i bet there wont 
be much more talk about extensions.

JB

" \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/" <moc.liamG@aynezib> wrote in message
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> "liam"  wrote in message 
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>> "Jonbhoy" wrote
>>>
>>> Thought WS insisted that Rangers would not be looking for an extension 
>>> and that they would leave it up to the SPL !!!!
>>
>> "But can I just clarify no-one from Rangers has ever asked the SPL to 
>> extend the season and we will not ask them to extend the season."
>> Walter three weeks ago...
>>
>> "I thought it was a reasonably simple request to extend the season but 
>> maybe I was being naive."
>> Walter yesterday...
>>
>> A complete contradiction or what...Scotland's shame have lost the plot.
>
> While winning what will be a shit more than our closest rivals.
>
> Gotta love a Mercurial Madcap Genius manager such as Smith.... I mean 
> imagine questioning the suggestions that his team play 4 games in 8 days 
> ... he really is a total nutjob, gotta love that... ;-)

Is there a precedent for a team in Scotland playing four games in a week?

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>>
>> "liam"  wrote in message 
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>>> "Jonbhoy" wrote
>>>>
>>>> Thought WS insisted that Rangers would not be looking for an extension 
>>>> and that they would leave it up to the SPL !!!!
>>>
>>> "But can I just clarify no-one from Rangers has ever asked the SPL to 
>>> extend the season and we will not ask them to extend the season."
>>> Walter three weeks ago...
>>>
>>> "I thought it was a reasonably simple request to extend the season but 
>>> maybe I was being naive."
>>> Walter yesterday...
>>>
>>> A complete contradiction or what...Scotland's shame have lost the plot.
>>
>> While winning what will be a shit more than our closest rivals.
>>
>> Gotta love a Mercurial Madcap Genius manager such as Smith.... I mean 
>> imagine questioning the suggestions that his team play 4 games in 8 days 
>> ... he really is a total nutjob, gotta love that... ;-)
>
> Is there a precedent for a team in Scotland playing four games in a week?
>

I don't know the answer to that one but do you think it's reasonable to ask 
a team to do so?

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>>> "liam"  wrote in message 
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>>>> "Jonbhoy" wrote
>>>>>
>>>>> Thought WS insisted that Rangers would not be looking for an extension 
>>>>> and that they would leave it up to the SPL !!!!
>>>>
>>>> "But can I just clarify no-one from Rangers has ever asked the SPL to 
>>>> extend the season and we will not ask them to extend the season."
>>>> Walter three weeks ago...
>>>>
>>>> "I thought it was a reasonably simple request to extend the season but 
>>>> maybe I was being naive."
>>>> Walter yesterday...
>>>>
>>>> A complete contradiction or what...Scotland's shame have lost the plot.
>>>
>>> While winning what will be a shit more than our closest rivals.
>>>
>>> Gotta love a Mercurial Madcap Genius manager such as Smith.... I mean 
>>> imagine questioning the suggestions that his team play 4 games in 8 days 
>>> ... he really is a total nutjob, gotta love that... ;-)
>>
>> Is there a precedent for a team in Scotland playing four games in a week?
>
> I don't know the answer to that one but do you think it's reasonable to 
> ask a team to do so?

I think it probably has gone on in the past, so I'll answer that question 
for you. Don't have any evidence right enough, so please don't badger me in 
that tedious style you so frequently adopt.

Regarding your question, I suppose it might be hard for some professional 
footballers to play four games in a week. They are accustomed to playing 
three games in a week. An extra 90 mins might seem like alot of additional 
work. They might not be used to it. Indeed they might not cope.

</cue another boring long thread with Angof saying ad infinitum "answer the 
question ya cunt/grow some balls/where's the YouTube evidence">

liam wrote:
> "Jonbhoy" wrote
>>
>> Thought WS insisted that Rangers would not be looking for an
>> extension and that they would leave it up to the SPL !!!!
>
> "But can I just clarify no-one from Rangers has ever asked the SPL to
> extend the season and we will not ask them to extend the season."
> Walter three weeks ago...
>
> "I thought it was a reasonably simple request to extend the season
> but maybe I was being naive."
> Walter yesterday...
>
> A complete contradiction or what...

Must admit this has got me puzzled - he clearly said "no one at Rangers has 
asked" then clearly says "it was a simple request"

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>>>>> "Jonbhoy" wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thought WS insisted that Rangers would not be looking for an 
>>>>>> extension and that they would leave it up to the SPL !!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> "But can I just clarify no-one from Rangers has ever asked the SPL to 
>>>>> extend the season and we will not ask them to extend the season."
>>>>> Walter three weeks ago...
>>>>>
>>>>> "I thought it was a reasonably simple request to extend the season but 
>>>>> maybe I was being naive."
>>>>> Walter yesterday...
>>>>>
>>>>> A complete contradiction or what...Scotland's shame have lost the 
>>>>> plot.
>>>>
>>>> While winning what will be a shit more than our closest rivals.
>>>>
>>>> Gotta love a Mercurial Madcap Genius manager such as Smith.... I mean 
>>>> imagine questioning the suggestions that his team play 4 games in 8 
>>>> days ... he really is a total nutjob, gotta love that... ;-)
>>>
>>> Is there a precedent for a team in Scotland playing four games in a 
>>> week?
>>
>> I don't know the answer to that one but do you think it's reasonable to 
>> ask a team to do so?
>
> I think it probably has gone on in the past,

Can't remember it happenening in Scotland but apparentley the Scottish 
league season has been extended 24 times since the war. If the years I saw 
quoted are correct, that included seven of your NIAR seasons.


>so I'll answer that question for you. Don't have any evidence right enough, 
>so please don't badger me in that tedious style you so frequently adopt.
>
> Regarding your question, I suppose it might be hard for some professional 
> footballers to play four games in a week. They are accustomed to playing 
> three games in a week. An extra 90 mins might seem like alot of additional 
> work. They might not be used to it. Indeed they might not cope.
>
> </cue another boring long thread with Angof saying ad infinitum "answer 
> the question

Well it was a reasonable and pretty straight forward question and you gave 
an interesting answer.  Trouble is I don't know if it's a yes or no as you 
forgot that bit.  Personally I think it's unreasonable but I agree with 
Walter Smith and don't blame Lawwell and co for wanting that to happen.

"Moody Marco" wrote:
> liam wrote:
> > "Jonbhoy" wrote
>
> >> Thought WS insisted that Rangers would not be looking for an
> >> extension and that they would leave it up to the SPL !!!!
>
> > "But can I just clarify no-one from Rangers has ever asked the SPL to
> > extend the season and we will not ask them to extend the season."
> > Walter three weeks ago...
>
> > "I thought it was a reasonably simple request to extend the season
> > but maybe I was being naive."
> > Walter yesterday...
>
> > A complete contradiction or what...
>
> Must admit this has got me puzzled - he clearly said "no one at Rangers has
> asked" then clearly says "it was a simple request"

Maybe Captian Mainwaring is feelin' the pressure... ;)
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