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date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:15:19 +0100,    group: uk.sport.football.clubs.celtic        back       
Re: Match Stats   
"Angof"  wrote in message 
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>
> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>
>> BTW, can you please explain exactly how Rangers have distanced themselves 
>> from the shameful behaviour of their fans? Have they issued a statement? 
>> Have they banned people from the ground for singing it?
>
> They have removed BJK banners from fans.
>
>> Have they told the  RST to fuck off back under the stone they crawled out 
>> from under seeing they were heavily involved in the invention?
>
> I didn't know the RST were ' heavily involved in the invention' 
> (sic)...you have proof of that?
>
>
>

What's the matter...no answer?  I can only assume from your inability to 
answer that you were lying yet again.
date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:15:19 +0100   author:   Angof

Re: Match Stats   
"Angof"  wrote in message 
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> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>>
>>> BTW, can you please explain exactly how Rangers have distanced 
>>> themselves from the shameful behaviour of their fans? Have they issued a 
>>> statement? Have they banned people from the ground for singing it?
>>
>> They have removed BJK banners from fans.
>>
>>> Have they told the  RST to fuck off back under the stone they crawled 
>>> out from under seeing they were heavily involved in the invention?
>>
>> I didn't know the RST were ' heavily involved in the invention' 
>> (sic)...you have proof of that?
>>
>>
>>
>
> What's the matter...no answer?  I can only assume from your inability to 
> answer that you were lying yet again.

I thought you being a follow follow stalwart you would know all about their 
boasts about the guys responsible for creating the campaign and how proud 
they were of each other. Don't kid on you don't know about this, there have 
been several posts on FF about it which have been circulating the Internet. 
Oh that's right, because it's not on youtube, it didn't happen.
date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:39:42 -0700   author:   ZB

Re: Match Stats   
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> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>>>
>>>> BTW, can you please explain exactly how Rangers have distanced 
>>>> themselves from the shameful behaviour of their fans? Have they issued 
>>>> a statement? Have they banned people from the ground for singing it?
>>>
>>> They have removed BJK banners from fans.
>>>
>>>> Have they told the  RST to fuck off back under the stone they crawled 
>>>> out from under seeing they were heavily involved in the invention?
>>>
>>> I didn't know the RST were ' heavily involved in the invention' 
>>> (sic)...you have proof of that?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What's the matter...no answer?  I can only assume from your inability to 
>> answer that you were lying yet again.
>
> I thought you being a follow follow stalwart

I'm not a FF stalwart...I extremely rarely use it as I've been banned 
twice...but you knew that.


> you would know all about their boasts about the guys responsible for 
> creating the campaign and how proud they were of each other. Don't kid on 
> you don't know about this, there have been several posts on FF about it 
> which have been circulating the Internet. Oh that's right, because it's 
> not on youtube, it didn't happen.

Even if this was true, and it wouldn't surprise me if some individuals on 
that site did what you say, you  haven't shown that the RST were 'heavily 
involved' in BJK's  'invention'. I think that's because you can't as it's 
yet another of your lies.
date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:36:01 +0100   author:   Angof

Re: Match Stats   
"Angof"  wrote in message 
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> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>
>>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
>>> news:yfidncQnOuHf9ZHVnZ2dnUVZ8surnZ2d@plusnet...
>>>>
>>>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:671bosF2mf2t5U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, can you please explain exactly how Rangers have distanced 
>>>>> themselves from the shameful behaviour of their fans? Have they issued 
>>>>> a statement? Have they banned people from the ground for singing it?
>>>>
>>>> They have removed BJK banners from fans.
>>>>
>>>>> Have they told the  RST to fuck off back under the stone they crawled 
>>>>> out from under seeing they were heavily involved in the invention?
>>>>
>>>> I didn't know the RST were ' heavily involved in the invention' 
>>>> (sic)...you have proof of that?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What's the matter...no answer?  I can only assume from your inability to 
>>> answer that you were lying yet again.
>>
>> I thought you being a follow follow stalwart
>
> I'm not a FF stalwart...I extremely rarely use it as I've been banned 
> twice...but you knew that.

I had no idea you "rarely" use follow follow and I can only recall you being 
banned once. Now if I was a drama queen, I would start shouting about what a 
liar you are...

>> you would know all about their boasts about the guys responsible for 
>> creating the campaign and how proud they were of each other. Don't kid on 
>> you don't know about this, there have been several posts on FF about it 
>> which have been circulating the Internet. Oh that's right, because it's 
>> not on youtube, it didn't happen.
>
> Even if this was true, and it wouldn't surprise me if some individuals on 
> that site did what you say, you  haven't shown that the RST were 'heavily 
> involved' in BJK's  'invention'. I think that's because you can't as it's 
> yet another of your lies.

Heavily involved in that prominent members created the campaign. Away and 
cry to the teacher about my "lies". You really should make your mind up - 
one minute you're a doddery auld cunt getting a blue rinse with the ladies 
at the salon, next minute you're a wee wean crying to the teacher that the 
big boys are making up stories.
date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:39:32 -0700   author:   ZB

Re: Match Stats   
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>>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>
>>>>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, can you please explain exactly how Rangers have distanced 
>>>>>> themselves from the shameful behaviour of their fans? Have they 
>>>>>> issued a statement? Have they banned people from the ground for 
>>>>>> singing it?
>>>>>
>>>>> They have removed BJK banners from fans.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have they told the  RST to fuck off back under the stone they crawled 
>>>>>> out from under seeing they were heavily involved in the invention?
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't know the RST were ' heavily involved in the invention' 
>>>>> (sic)...you have proof of that?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What's the matter...no answer?  I can only assume from your inability 
>>>> to answer that you were lying yet again.
>>>
>>> I thought you being a follow follow stalwart
>>
>> I'm not a FF stalwart...I extremely rarely use it as I've been banned 
>> twice...but you knew that.
>
> I had no idea you "rarely" use follow follow and I can only recall you 
> being banned once. Now if I was a drama queen, I would start shouting 
> about what a liar you are...
>

*If*  you were a drama queen...LMFAO.  OK Miss Piggy.


>>> you would know all about their boasts about the guys responsible for 
>>> creating the campaign and how proud they were of each other. Don't kid 
>>> on you don't know about this, there have been several posts on FF about 
>>> it which have been circulating the Internet. Oh that's right, because 
>>> it's not on youtube, it didn't happen.
>>
>> Even if this was true, and it wouldn't surprise me if some individuals on 
>> that site did what you say, you  haven't shown that the RST were 'heavily 
>> involved' in BJK's  'invention'. I think that's because you can't as it's 
>> yet another of your lies.
>
> Heavily involved in that prominent members created the campaign.


Even if that were true..and I'm sure you'll be able to inform us as to who 
these 'prominent members' of the RST are,  it would still show what an 
hysterical twat you are.  You just made it up as is your style and the RST 
was not at all involved with the creation of  the 'campaign'.  I think it's 
pretty obvious that this is just more of your bullshit in reaction to 
showing yourself  up over your pathetic 'enjoying paedophillia' claim.  Now 
dry your eyes, put on a pair of dry panties  and try to stop making a 
complete cunt of yourself for once.
date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:44:10 +0100   author:   Angof

Re: Match Stats   
"Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, can you please explain exactly how Rangers have distanced 
>>>>>>> themselves from the shameful behaviour of their fans? Have they 
>>>>>>> issued a statement? Have they banned people from the ground for 
>>>>>>> singing it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They have removed BJK banners from fans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have they told the  RST to fuck off back under the stone they 
>>>>>>> crawled out from under seeing they were heavily involved in the 
>>>>>>> invention?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't know the RST were ' heavily involved in the invention' 
>>>>>> (sic)...you have proof of that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the matter...no answer?  I can only assume from your inability 
>>>>> to answer that you were lying yet again.
>>>>
>>>> I thought you being a follow follow stalwart
>>>
>>> I'm not a FF stalwart...I extremely rarely use it as I've been banned 
>>> twice...but you knew that.
>>
>> I had no idea you "rarely" use follow follow and I can only recall you 
>> being banned once. Now if I was a drama queen, I would start shouting 
>> about what a liar you are...
>>
>
> *If*  you were a drama queen...LMFAO.  OK Miss Piggy.

If you could just stop looking in the mirror for 5 mins...

>>>> you would know all about their boasts about the guys responsible for 
>>>> creating the campaign and how proud they were of each other. Don't kid 
>>>> on you don't know about this, there have been several posts on FF about 
>>>> it which have been circulating the Internet. Oh that's right, because 
>>>> it's not on youtube, it didn't happen.
>>>
>>> Even if this was true, and it wouldn't surprise me if some individuals 
>>> on that site did what you say, you  haven't shown that the RST were 
>>> 'heavily involved' in BJK's  'invention'. I think that's because you 
>>> can't as it's yet another of your lies.
>>
>> Heavily involved in that prominent members created the campaign.
>
>
> Even if that were true..and I'm sure you'll be able to inform us as to who 
> these 'prominent members' of the RST are,  it would still show what an 
> hysterical twat you are.  You just made it up as is your style and the RST 
> was not at all involved with the creation of  the 'campaign'.  I think 
> it's pretty obvious that this is just more of your bullshit in reaction to 
> showing yourself  up over your pathetic 'enjoying paedophillia' claim. 
> Now dry your eyes, put on a pair of dry panties  and try to stop making a 
> complete cunt of yourself for once.

WTF are you on about now, ya doddery auld cunt? You are making as much sense 
as usual. You need to come up with a new response to everything that doesnt 
suit your own agenda than "you made it all up and are making a cunt of 
yourself". Right enough, you tried that and made a complete cunt of it with 
the "it's not on youtube so you must be lying".
date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:22:55 -0700   author:   ZB

Re: Match Stats   
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>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW, can you please explain exactly how Rangers have distanced 
>>>>>>>> themselves from the shameful behaviour of their fans? Have they 
>>>>>>>> issued a statement? Have they banned people from the ground for 
>>>>>>>> singing it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They have removed BJK banners from fans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have they told the  RST to fuck off back under the stone they 
>>>>>>>> crawled out from under seeing they were heavily involved in the 
>>>>>>>> invention?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't know the RST were ' heavily involved in the invention' 
>>>>>>> (sic)...you have proof of that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the matter...no answer?  I can only assume from your inability 
>>>>>> to answer that you were lying yet again.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought you being a follow follow stalwart
>>>>
>>>> I'm not a FF stalwart...I extremely rarely use it as I've been banned 
>>>> twice...but you knew that.
>>>
>>> I had no idea you "rarely" use follow follow and I can only recall you 
>>> being banned once. Now if I was a drama queen, I would start shouting 
>>> about what a liar you are...
>>>
>>
>> *If*  you were a drama queen...LMFAO.  OK Miss Piggy.
>
> If you could just stop looking in the mirror for 5 mins...


Look Miss Piggy it's obvious this is yet another ludicrous claim that you 
can't back up.  We best leave it there lest you start squealing 'stalker!', 
and go into panty wetting mode again.
date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:45:47 +0100   author:   Angof

Re: Match Stats   
"Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>
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>>>>>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW, can you please explain exactly how Rangers have distanced 
>>>>>>>>> themselves from the shameful behaviour of their fans? Have they 
>>>>>>>>> issued a statement? Have they banned people from the ground for 
>>>>>>>>> singing it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They have removed BJK banners from fans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have they told the  RST to fuck off back under the stone they 
>>>>>>>>> crawled out from under seeing they were heavily involved in the 
>>>>>>>>> invention?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didn't know the RST were ' heavily involved in the invention' 
>>>>>>>> (sic)...you have proof of that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's the matter...no answer?  I can only assume from your 
>>>>>>> inability to answer that you were lying yet again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought you being a follow follow stalwart
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not a FF stalwart...I extremely rarely use it as I've been banned 
>>>>> twice...but you knew that.
>>>>
>>>> I had no idea you "rarely" use follow follow and I can only recall you 
>>>> being banned once. Now if I was a drama queen, I would start shouting 
>>>> about what a liar you are...
>>>>
>>>
>>> *If*  you were a drama queen...LMFAO.  OK Miss Piggy.
>>
>> If you could just stop looking in the mirror for 5 mins...
>
>
> Look Miss Piggy it's obvious this is yet another ludicrous claim that you 
> can't back up.

Funny how a ludicrous claim can be something that you yourself said is 
believable. Make your mind up ya doddery auld cunt, your memory's going 
again!

>  We best leave it there lest you start squealing 'stalker!', and go into 
> panty wetting mode again.

Angof, is there any chance you could change your tune, I mean it's been the 
same thing with you for years. Celtic fan makes a statement, Angof runs to 
the teacher claiming that Celtic fan is telling lies. Celtic fan explains 
that not all things they have seen are recorded on youtube. Angof replies to 
call them a liar again. Celtic fan says he is not a liar. Angof says you are 
a liar and repeats as many times as necessary to ensure he/she has the last 
word in the thread.

Here you go:

Space for last words in thread for Angof. Please insert here: note, do not 
use crayon on your monitor:



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date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:12:42 -0700   author:   ZB

Re: Match Stats   
"ZB"  wrote in message 
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>
>>
>> Look Miss Piggy it's obvious this is yet another ludicrous claim that you 
>> can't back up.
>
> Funny how a ludicrous claim can be something that you yourself said is 
> believable.

I never said anything of the sort.  You said the RST were 'heavily involved 
in the invention' of the BJK 'campaign'.  That is a lie that you can not 
back up as the RST was not involved in any way....and that applies even if 
you could show that any of it's many members were involved.
date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:28:17 +0100   author:   Angof

Re: Match Stats   
"Angof"  wrote in message 
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> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>
>>>
>>> Look Miss Piggy it's obvious this is yet another ludicrous claim that 
>>> you can't back up.
>>
>> Funny how a ludicrous claim can be something that you yourself said is 
>> believable.
>
> I never said anything of the sort.

Yes you did.

> You said the RST were 'heavily involved in the invention' of the BJK 
> 'campaign'.  That is a lie that you can not back up as the RST was not 
> involved in any way....and that applies even if you could show that any of 
> it's many members were involved.

Is that what the crux of your posts have meant? FFS, talk about clutching at 
straws. Prominent, high-level members of the RST were involved in the 
creation of the campaign. Hence the RST are heavily involved, whether you 
like it or not.

This is so typical of you, rather than deal with the problem, you indulge in 
pathetic efforts to deflect & deny.

Here you go again:


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date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:58:05 -0700   author:   ZB

Re: Match Stats   
"ZB"  wrote in message 
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> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>>
>>>>
>>>> Look Miss Piggy it's obvious this is yet another ludicrous claim that 
>>>> you can't back up.
>>>
>>> Funny how a ludicrous claim can be something that you yourself said is 
>>> believable.
>>
>> I never said anything of the sort.
>
> Yes you did.

Well provide the quote.

>
>> You said the RST were 'heavily involved in the invention' of the BJK 
>> 'campaign'.  That is a lie that you can not back up as the RST was not 
>> involved in any way....and that applies even if you could show that any 
>> of it's many members were involved.
>
> Is that what the crux of your posts have meant? FFS, talk about clutching 
> at straws. Prominent, high-level members of the RST were involved in the 
> creation of the campaign. Hence the RST are heavily involved, whether you 
> like it or not.
>

Even if you could provide the names of these 'prominent, high-level members 
of the RST, (we are still waiting for that ), and then prove that they were 
involved in the 'invention' of any 'campaign'...that would still not mean 
the RST were involved, let alone 'heavily...that is just stupid.  The RST 
were not at all involved in the creation of any 'campaign'...that is fact, 
not clutching at straws. Why you feel the need to come out with these stupid 
statements and then make an arse of yourself trying to defend them is 
surreal.
date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:42:24 +0100   author:   Angof

Re: Match Stats   
"Angof"  wrote in message 
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>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Look Miss Piggy it's obvious this is yet another ludicrous claim that 
>>>>> you can't back up.
>>>>
>>>> Funny how a ludicrous claim can be something that you yourself said is 
>>>> believable.
>>>
>>> I never said anything of the sort.
>>
>> Yes you did.
>
> Well provide the quote.

"Even if this was true, and it wouldn't surprise me if some individuals on
that site did what you say"

>>> You said the RST were 'heavily involved in the invention' of the BJK 
>>> 'campaign'.  That is a lie that you can not back up as the RST was not 
>>> involved in any way....and that applies even if you could show that any 
>>> of it's many members were involved.
>>
>> Is that what the crux of your posts have meant? FFS, talk about clutching 
>> at straws. Prominent, high-level members of the RST were involved in the 
>> creation of the campaign. Hence the RST are heavily involved, whether you 
>> like it or not.
>>
>
> Even if you could provide the names of these 'prominent, high-level 
> members of the RST, (we are still waiting for that ), and then prove that 
> they were involved in the 'invention' of any 'campaign'...that would still 
> not mean the RST were involved, let alone 'heavily...that is just stupid. 
> The RST were not at all involved in the creation of any 'campaign'...that 
> is fact, not clutching at straws.

The fact that folks involved in starting up the RST were also at the heart 
of the insidious campaign that you feel so intent on defending, means that 
the RST were heavily involved. Even a half-wit like you should be able to 
get the simple connection.

It shows the RST up for exactly what it is. A bunch of bigots who want to 
sing about being up to their knees in fenien blood. How we laughed at David 
Edgar's attempt to defend the singing of that song for political reasons 
(that one probably still is on youtube BTW, so even you can't deny it 
happened).

> Why you feel the need to come out with these stupid statements and then 
> make an arse of yourself trying to defend them is surreal.

The only thing surreal is your semantic arguments. Un-feckin-believable.

Here you go:

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date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:37:19 -0700   author:   ZB

Re: Match Stats   
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>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>>
>>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>>
>>>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look Miss Piggy it's obvious this is yet another ludicrous claim that 
>>>>>> you can't back up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny how a ludicrous claim can be something that you yourself said is 
>>>>> believable.
>>>>
>>>> I never said anything of the sort.
>>>
>>> Yes you did.
>>
>> Well provide the quote.
>
> "Even if this was true, and it wouldn't surprise me if some individuals on
> that site did what you say"


The key words being individuals.  The RST had nothing to do with 'inventing' 
any 'campaign' regarding BJK nevermind 'heavilly'.

>
>>>> You said the RST were 'heavily involved in the invention' of the BJK 
>>>> 'campaign'.  That is a lie that you can not back up as the RST was not 
>>>> involved in any way....and that applies even if you could show that any 
>>>> of it's many members were involved.
>>>
>>> Is that what the crux of your posts have meant? FFS, talk about 
>>> clutching at straws. Prominent, high-level members of the RST were 
>>> involved in the creation of the campaign. Hence the RST are heavily 
>>> involved, whether you like it or not.
>>>
>>
>> Even if you could provide the names of these 'prominent, high-level 
>> members of the RST, (we are still waiting for that ), and then prove that 
>> they were involved in the 'invention' of any 'campaign'...that would 
>> still not mean the RST were involved, let alone 'heavily...that is just 
>> stupid. The RST were not at all involved in the creation of any 
>> 'campaign'...that is fact, not clutching at straws.
>
> The fact that folks involved in starting up the RST were also at the heart 
> of the insidious campaign that you feel so intent on defending,

That comment just shows where you are coming from.  You know fine well I've 
always condemened it but the more you fuck up in an argument the more the 
lies spew forth.

> means that the RST were heavily involved. Even a half-wit like you should 
> be able to get the simple connection.

What nonsense.  The RST was not involved at all and is obviously not 
responsible for everything any member does...just like any other 
organisation.  BTW....when are you going to name these 'prominent members' 
and provide the evidence?  Oh wait...you expect your word to be 
taken....LMFAO,  yeah right.

<snip squirming atempt to change the subject>
date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:38:14 +0100   author:   Angof

Re: Match Stats   
"Angof"  wrote in message 
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>
> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>
>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>
>>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>>>
>>>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>
>>>>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look Miss Piggy it's obvious this is yet another ludicrous claim 
>>>>>>> that you can't back up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny how a ludicrous claim can be something that you yourself said 
>>>>>> is believable.
>>>>>
>>>>> I never said anything of the sort.
>>>>
>>>> Yes you did.
>>>
>>> Well provide the quote.
>>
>> "Even if this was true, and it wouldn't surprise me if some individuals 
>> on
>> that site did what you say"
>
>
> The key words being individuals.  The RST had nothing to do with 
> 'inventing' any 'campaign' regarding BJK nevermind 'heavilly'.

Whether you like it or not, board members of the Trust have boasted about 
their involvement. Even a thicko like you should see the link between an 
organisation's board members and the organisation itself. I guess you can't 
take the fact that a prominent supporters organisation has bigotry & hatred 
at it's core - defending songs about "fenien blood" as political and 
inventing campaigns that are beneath contempt.

>>>>> You said the RST were 'heavily involved in the invention' of the BJK 
>>>>> 'campaign'.  That is a lie that you can not back up as the RST was not 
>>>>> involved in any way....and that applies even if you could show that 
>>>>> any of it's many members were involved.
>>>>
>>>> Is that what the crux of your posts have meant? FFS, talk about 
>>>> clutching at straws. Prominent, high-level members of the RST were 
>>>> involved in the creation of the campaign. Hence the RST are heavily 
>>>> involved, whether you like it or not.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Even if you could provide the names of these 'prominent, high-level 
>>> members of the RST, (we are still waiting for that ), and then prove 
>>> that they were involved in the 'invention' of any 'campaign'...that 
>>> would still not mean the RST were involved, let alone 'heavily...that is 
>>> just stupid. The RST were not at all involved in the creation of any 
>>> 'campaign'...that is fact, not clutching at straws.
>>
>> The fact that folks involved in starting up the RST were also at the 
>> heart of the insidious campaign that you feel so intent on defending,
>
> That comment just shows where you are coming from.  You know fine well 
> I've always condemened it but the more you fuck up in an argument the more 
> the lies spew forth.

I haven't fucked up anything and well you know it. Board members of the RST 
were boasting on FF about how they formulated the idea for this campaign. To 
you it's far more important to attack a Celtic fan for mentioning something 
that makes you uncomfortable than saying anything about the campaign itself. 
Big deal, you've made a couple of comments on it, but you spend far far more 
time defending the people who started the campaign.

>> means that the RST were heavily involved. Even a half-wit like you should 
>> be able to get the simple connection.
>
> What nonsense.  The RST was not involved at all and is obviously not 
> responsible for everything any member does...just like any other 
> organisation.  BTW....when are you going to name these 'prominent members' 
> and provide the evidence?  Oh wait...you expect your word to be 
> taken....LMFAO,  yeah right.
>
> <snip squirming atempt to change the subject>

The only one squirming is you with your circular arguments. I've told you 
many times before, I could not give a fuck if a senile auld cunt like you 
doesn't believe me, you really have a very high opinion of yourself thinking 
otherwise. Just try to remember, if something isn't on youtube, it doesnt 
mean it didn't happen (remember that one, when you would rather attack a 
Celtic fan who highlighted racist Rangers fans than criticise the racist 
Rangers fans - can you see the pattern yet?)

Last word from me, I have better things to do with my time than get involved 
in a circular argument with defenders of racists and bigots like yourself. 
Here you go, I don't expect anything other than your usual crying to the 
teacher about the big bad liars pulling your pigtails again:

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:04:23 -0700   author:   ZB

Re: Match Stats   
"ZB"  wrote in message 
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> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Angof"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> "ZB"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:67btcbF2na8tvU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Look Miss Piggy it's obvious this is yet another ludicrous claim 
>>>>>>>> that you can't back up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Funny how a ludicrous claim can be something that you yourself said 
>>>>>>> is believable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I never said anything of the sort.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes you did.
>>>>
>>>> Well provide the quote.
>>>
>>> "Even if this was true, and it wouldn't surprise me if some individuals 
>>> on
>>> that site did what you say"
>>
>>
>> The key words being individuals.  The RST had nothing to do with 
>> 'inventing' any 'campaign' regarding BJK nevermind 'heavilly'.
>
> Whether you like it or not, board members of the Trust have boasted about 
> their involvement.

Even if there were what you call board members of the trust involved, only 
an idiot would say this is therefore a creation or policy of that 
organisation.


>>>>>> You said the RST were 'heavily involved in the invention' of the BJK 
>>>>>> 'campaign'.  That is a lie that you can not back up as the RST was 
>>>>>> not involved in any way....and that applies even if you could show 
>>>>>> that any of it's many members were involved.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that what the crux of your posts have meant? FFS, talk about 
>>>>> clutching at straws. Prominent, high-level members of the RST were 
>>>>> involved in the creation of the campaign. Hence the RST are heavily 
>>>>> involved, whether you like it or not.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Even if you could provide the names of these 'prominent, high-level 
>>>> members of the RST, (we are still waiting for that ), and then prove 
>>>> that they were involved in the 'invention' of any 'campaign'...that 
>>>> would still not mean the RST were involved, let alone 'heavily...that 
>>>> is just stupid. The RST were not at all involved in the creation of any 
>>>> 'campaign'...that is fact, not clutching at straws.
>>>
>>> The fact that folks involved in starting up the RST were also at the 
>>> heart of the insidious campaign that you feel so intent on defending,
>>
>> That comment just shows where you are coming from.  You know fine well 
>> I've always condemened it but the more you fuck up in an argument the 
>> more the lies spew forth.
>
> I haven't fucked up anything and well you know it. Board members of the 
> RST were boasting on FF about how they formulated the idea for this 
> campaign.

Even if you could prove that board members of the RST (you must surely know 
their names?) were involved in the 'invention' of the 'campaign', that does 
not mean the RST were involved....obviously.

> To  you it's far more important to attack a Celtic fan for mentioning 
> something that makes you uncomfortable than saying anything about the 
> campaign itself.

It doesn't make me uncomfortable that you are a liar.  You criticised 
Rangers for not pulling the RST for 'inventing' the BJK campaign.  A 
ridiculous statement that, surprise surprise, you can't back up.


> Big deal, you've made a couple of comments on it, but you spend far far 
> more time defending the people who started the campaign.

No.  Yet more of your crap.  I'll condemn any organisation or individual who 
has had anything to do with it.  I'm not defending any individuals when I 
conteract your lies about the RST as an organisation  being heavily 
involved.
The fact that you are trying to suggest I'm defending the BJK thing just 
shows that you are losing it as I have always argued against it and made 
more than 'couple of comments on it'.  Again....you know that.


>Just try to remember, if something isn't on youtube, it doesnt mean it 
>didn't happen (remember that one, when you would rather attack a Celtic fan 
>who highlighted racist Rangers fans than criticise the racist Rangers 
>fans - can you see the pattern yet?)

I see the patern alright.  You come on here and make exaggerated claims and 
expect your word to be taken. You then claim that non acceptance of your 
bullshit is condoning the aledged actions themselves.  That is obviously 
crap.  I have condemened bad behaviour by Rangers fans, racist or otherwise. 
I don't just let it 'pass me by'  (remember that one)...that doesn't mean I 
would just accept what happened on your say so.


>
> Last word from me, I have better things to do with my time than get 
> involved in a circular argument with defenders of racists and bigots like 
> yourself.

You could end it simply by producing the evidence as you claim that it 
exists....strange that you don't.  Well maybe not.
date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:19:34 +0100   author:   Angof

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