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date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:05:35 -0000,    group: uk.sport.football.clubs.celtic        back       
A wider view of bigotry and sectarianism in our game.   
Some valid points raised about the ridiculousness of it all...

"Why should Rangers fans mocking Catholics be worse than SouthPark mocking 
Scientologists?"

"Football matches have traditionally been a place to let off steam and 
stadiums should be cauldrons of emotion - that means hate as well as love. 
If you ban Sectarian or racist chants then why not the word cunt? Plenty of 
people find that offensive. Or do you want football played in front of 
obedient dummies? Kick censorship out of football."

also see posts by 'vivalatrav' and 'northbriton'.

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/mike_small/2007/08/hymns_of_hatred_at_ibrox_park.html

or

http://snipurl.com/viewsonthis

biz


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date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:05:35 -0000   author:   \\?`?.?biz?.???/ moc.liamG@aynezib

Re: A wider view of bigotry and sectarianism in our game.   
On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:05:35 GMT and in uk.sport.football.clubs.celtic, 
 \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/ wrote.... 

> Some valid points raised about the ridiculousness of it all...
> 
> "Why should Rangers fans mocking Catholics be worse than SouthPark
> mocking Scientologists?"

I think if it was only mocking it wouldn't be so frowned upon.

> "Football matches have traditionally been a place to let off steam and
> stadiums should be cauldrons of emotion - that means hate as well as
> love. If you ban Sectarian or racist chants then why not the word
> cunt? Plenty of people find that offensive. Or do you want football
> played in front of obedient dummies? Kick censorship out of football."

Where will it all stop? Will football eventually end up with chants of 
"good show" and "bravo!". As the quote above says, football is as much 
about hate as it is about love. I hate getting beat, i hate my teams rivals 
winning. I don't necessarily hate rival fans, just when they get bragging 
rights and abuse them. ;-P


-- 
sme
The obscure we see eventually.  The completely obvious, it seems, takes 
longer.  ~Edward R. Murrow
date: 4 Feb 2008 23:36:59 GMT   author:   sme

Re: A wider view of bigotry and sectarianism in our game.   
" \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/" <moc.liamG@aynezib> wrote in message 
news:W-qdnQ3PPJ7dBzranZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
> Some valid points raised about the ridiculousness of it all...
>
> "Why should Rangers fans mocking Catholics be worse than SouthPark mocking 
> Scientologists?"
>
> "Football matches have traditionally been a place to let off steam and 
> stadiums should be cauldrons of emotion - that means hate as well as love. 
> If you ban Sectarian or racist chants then why not the word cunt? Plenty 
> of people find that offensive. Or do you want football played in front of 
> obedient dummies? Kick censorship out of football."
>
> also see posts by 'vivalatrav' and 'northbriton'.
>
> http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/mike_small/2007/08/hymns_of_hatred_at_ibrox_park.html
>
> or
>
> http://snipurl.com/viewsonthis
>
> biz

What a load of bollocks! I'm all for rivalry, but to say that huns 
discriminating against Catholics is any more acceptable than tims 
discriminating against Protestants is ridiculous. There are still plenty of 
places in Scptland where you will not be employed based on your religion 
(which people assume based on your surname). That is taking rivalry into the 
domain of bigotry and haterd which is completely unacceptable.

Great idea, let's allow racism and sectarian chants in football because 
football is supposed to be emotional. That is one of the most ridiculous 
comments I have ever heard.
date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:12:15 -0800   author:   ZB

Re: A wider view of bigotry and sectarianism in our game.   
On Feb 5, 2:12 am, "ZB"  wrote:
> " \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/" <moc.liamG@aynezib> wrote in message
>
> news:W-qdnQ3PPJ7dBzranZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
>
>
>
> > Some valid points raised about the ridiculousness of it all...
>
> > "Why should Rangers fans mocking Catholics be worse than SouthPark mocking
> > Scientologists?"
>
> > "Football matches have traditionally been a place to let off steam and
> > stadiums should be cauldrons of emotion - that means hate as well as love.
> > If you ban Sectarian or racist chants then why not the word cunt? Plenty> > of people find that offensive. Or do you want football played in front of
> > obedient dummies? Kick censorship out of football."
>
> > also see posts by 'vivalatrav' and 'northbriton'.
>
> >http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/mike_small/2007/08/hymns_of_hatre...
>
> > or
>
> >http://snipurl.com/viewsonthis
>
> > biz
>
> What a load of bollocks! I'm all for rivalry, but to say that Bears
> discriminating against Catholics is any more acceptable than Fenians/Taigs> discriminating against Protestants is ridiculous. There are still plenty of
> places in Scptland where you will not be employed based on your religion like state funded Roman catholic schools
> (which people assume based on your surname). That is taking rivalry into the
> domain of bigotry and haterd which is completely unacceptable.
>
> Great idea, let's allow racism and sectarian chants in football because
> football is supposed to be emotional. That is one of the most ridiculous
> comments I have ever heard.Unless its people like me thats Anti-British and Anti-protestants, thats why i post
bigoted post like this..

Cant be arsed with known sectarian racist like you that gets offended
at Fenian and Taig but is happy to call a british white protestant
HUN. You are an Idiot.


Angof maybe you would like to have a word on this as Zebhoy has just
proved that Hun means Protestant and thinks Tim means Catholic or is
just another clown thinking that only Celtic supporters abuse
protestants?
date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 13:42:34 -0800 (PST)   author:   Mad Max

Re: A wider view of bigotry and sectarianism in our game.   
" \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/" <moc.liamG@aynezib> wrote in message 
news:W-qdnQ3PPJ7dBzranZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
> Some valid points raised about the ridiculousness of it all...
>
> "Why should Rangers fans mocking Catholics be worse than SouthPark mocking 
> Scientologists?"
>
> "Football matches have traditionally been a place to let off steam and 
> stadiums should be cauldrons of emotion - that means hate as well as love. 
> If you ban Sectarian or racist chants then why not the word cunt? Plenty 
> of people find that offensive. Or do you want football played in front of 
> obedient dummies? Kick censorship out of football."
>
> also see posts by 'vivalatrav' and 'northbriton'.
>
> http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/mike_small/2007/08/hymns_of_hatred_at_ibrox_park.html
>
> or
>
> http://snipurl.com/viewsonthis
>
> biz
>
>
> -- 
> www.bebo.com/bizenya79
> www.myspace.com/bizenya
> Death is hereditary.

The occasional decent post (northbriton) but most (vivalatrav, chronos etc) 
of it is just bigots trying to justify their bile.
date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:53:45 GMT   author:   d? the h?sker

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