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date: Wed, 7 May 2008 00:26:12 -0000,    group: uk.sport.football        back       
[SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
****House Of Hopeful Youks headed paper****


Okay, here we fucking go.  You know how this works now, it's the final week
and all matches are on a Sunday, so we proudly present the 07/8 Season
Finale, the Week 40 Super Sunday Double Betcunt.  Ten Prembetcunts on offer
here, and if you like you can place two betcunts, although not on the same
fixture.  Unless clearly labelled 'BET1' and 'BET2' they'll be placed in the
order you list them, though, so just be careful of that.  Usual
Jason/Shirley rules apply of course, so percentage bets or youkbets are
allowed but no staking more than the total of your opening balance.  Let's
have a clean finale, guys.

One more thing, a reminder of the controversial two hour 'Window Of Cautious
Opportunity' rule, which specifies that Vicky's flange must be flapping a
full two hours earlier than the rest of us.  Sorry about that.

Also, one other one more thing, thanks everyone for taking part, and
particular thanks to Martin for stepping in to the bleach when required.  If
we're all very very _very_ good, he may yet run this for us next season.
I'd like that.  In the meantime, however, this is the last odds post from
chez Joe, so make the most of it.

Best of luck to one and all.  Especially me.

======================================

This week's match odds (Super Sunday Double-Betcunt, 11/5/08):

                                                            Home  Draw  Away
      Birmingham City v Blackburn Rovers  (15:00BST)     2.05   3.7   4.1
      Chelsea v Bolton Wanderers  (15:00BST)     1.17   9.2   22
      Derby County v Reading  (15:00BST)     6.55   4.4   1.61
      Everton v Newcastle United  (15:00BST)     1.98   3.55   4.8
      Middlesbrough v Manchester City  (15:00BST)     2.2   3.4   3.85
      Portsmouth v Fulham  (15:00BST)     3.65   3.75   2.2
      Sunderland v Arsenal  (15:00BST)     4.6   3.85   1.9
      Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool  (15:00BST)     2.78   3.45   2.85
      West Ham v Aston Villa  (15:00BST)     3.4   3.7   2.3
      Wigan Athletic v Manchester United  (15:00BST)     15.5   6.5   1.27

Deadline for Vicky's betcunts:  12:00BST, 11/5/08
Deadline for all other betcunting:  14:00BST, 11/5/08
======================================

Balances:

      Vicky     398
      Joe     393
      Poleson     375
      Mikey     279
      Gra     251
      Ben     241
      Goalie     236
      Cornelius     105
      Chopsy     64
      Kevin     55
      Osbourne     50
      Sid     41
      TonyMac     5
      Nigel     5
      Bobby     5
      Martin     5
      Demo     0
============

-- 
HoHY

"VIVA Las BETCUNTS!!!1one!1!!!goingforgold!1!1!" - Elvis Presley

http://uksf.org.uk/betcunt/
date: Wed, 7 May 2008 00:26:12 -0000   author:   Joe Horowitz hey

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
According to <my_name@youblunder.co.youghey>:
>One more thing, a reminder of the controversial two hour 'Window Of Cautious
>Opportunity' rule, which specifies that Vicky's flange must be flapping a
>full two hours earlier than the rest of us.  Sorry about that.

Not a problem to me.  You may not have noticed, but I tend to reply within a
couple of hours of your post.  :-P

>Also, one other one more thing, thanks everyone for taking part, and
>particular thanks to Martin for stepping in to the bleach when required.  If
>we're all very very _very_ good, he may yet run this for us next season.
>I'd like that.  In the meantime, however, this is the last odds post from
>chez Joe, so make the most of it.

We all love you, Joe.  Especially Ben.

>Best of luck to one and all.  Especially me.

:-)

>      Derby County v Reading  (15:00BST)     6.55   4.4   1.61

BET1: 3 Youks on the draw, please.

>      Wigan Athletic v Manchester United  (15:00BST)     15.5   6.5   1.27

BET2: An ever-optomistic 2 Youks on the draw

>      Vicky     398

--
date: Tue, 6 May 2008 23:56:16 +0000 (UTC)   author:   (Vicky Conlan)

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
"Vicky Conlan"  wrote in message 
news:fvqr70$2p52$1@magenta.plig.net...
> BET1: 3 Youks on the draw, please.
>
> BET2: An ever-optomistic 2 Youks on the draw

I think it's safe to say I did not see that coming.


-- 
Mike
date: Wed, 7 May 2008 01:07:04 +0100   author:   Michael Cunningham

Re: - Week 40 odds   
On May 7, 2:26 am, "Joe Horowitz" <my_n...@youblunder.co.youghey>
wrote:

> I'd like that.  In the meantime, however, this is the last odds post from
> chez Joe, so make the most of it.
> Best of luck to one and all.  Especially me.

Thanks for running this so well, Joe!

>       Chelsea v Bolton Wanderers  (15:00BST)     1.17   9.2   22

Bet1: AMY on the draw.

>       Wigan Athletic v Manchester United  (15:00BST)     15.5   6.5   1.27

Bet2: AMY on the draw.

>       Sid     41

Sid
date: Tue, 6 May 2008 21:21:57 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Sid

Re: - Week 40 odds   
On May 7, 1:26 am, "Joe Horowitz" <my_n...@youblunder.co.youghey>
wrote:

>       Everton v Newcastle United  (15:00BST)     1.98   3.55   4.8

BET1:  50 youks on the AWAY win please.

>       Wigan Athletic v Manchester United  (15:00BST)     15.5   6.5   1.27

BET2:  55 youks on the on the DRAW please.

Thanks for doing all this, I've really enjoyed it.

--
Cornelius
date: Wed, 7 May 2008 00:50:11 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Cornelius

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
"Michael Cunningham"  wrote in message 
news:fvqs03$l0q$1@aioe.org...
> "Vicky Conlan"  wrote in message 
> news:fvqr70$2p52$1@magenta.plig.net...
>> BET1: 3 Youks on the draw, please.
>>
>> BET2: An ever-optomistic 2 Youks on the draw
>
> I think it's safe to say I did not see that coming.


Pleasant surprise?

BTN
date: Wed, 7 May 2008 10:26:29 +0100   author:   Sir Benjamin Nunn

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
According to :
>>> BET1: 3 Youks on the draw, please.
>>>
>>> BET2: An ever-optomistic 2 Youks on the draw
>>
>> I think it's safe to say I did not see that coming.
>
>Pleasant surprise?

But enough of your weekend ...
--
date: Wed, 7 May 2008 10:17:23 +0000 (UTC)   author:   (Vicky Conlan)

Re: - Week 40 odds   
On 7 May, 01:26, "Joe Horowitz" <my_n...@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote:
> ****House Of Hopeful Youks headed paper****
>
> Okay, here we fucking go.  You know how this works now, it's the final week
> and all matches are on a Sunday, so we proudly present the 07/8 Season
> Finale, the Week 40 Super Sunday Double Betcunt.  Ten Prembetcunts on offer
> here, and if you like you can place two betcunts, although not on the same
> fixture.  Unless clearly labelled 'BET1' and 'BET2' they'll be placed in the
> order you list them, though, so just be careful of that.  Usual
> Jason/Shirley rules apply of course, so percentage bets or youkbets are
> allowed but no staking more than the total of your opening balance.  Let's
> have a clean finale, guys.
>
> One more thing, a reminder of the controversial two hour 'Window Of Cautious
> Opportunity' rule, which specifies that Vicky's flange must be flapping a
> full two hours earlier than the rest of us.  Sorry about that.
>
> Also, one other one more thing, thanks everyone for taking part, and
> particular thanks to Martin for stepping in to the bleach when required.  If
> we're all very very _very_ good, he may yet run this for us next season.
> I'd like that.  In the meantime, however, this is the last odds post from
> chez Joe, so make the most of it.
>
> Best of luck to one and all.  Especially me.
>
> ======================================
>
> This week's match odds (Super Sunday Double-Betcunt, 11/5/08):

>       Chelsea v Bolton Wanderers  (15:00BST)     1.17   9.2   22

AMY on Bolton Win.

>       Wigan Athletic v Manchester United  (15:00BST)     15.5   6.5   1.27

AMY on Wigan win.

How Voodoo-accused would that be if it came in?

> Balances:

>       Vicky     398
>       Joe     393
>       Poleson     375
>       Mikey     279
>       Gra     251
>       Ben     241
>       Goalie     236
>       Cornelius     105
>       Chopsy     64
>       Kevin     55
>       Osbourne     50
>       Sid     41

These people have peaked too soon.

>       TonyMac     5
>       Nigel     5
>       Bobby     5
>       Martin     5

These people are in just the right position.

>       Demo     0

He's got no fucking chance whatsoever.
date: Wed, 7 May 2008 04:53:55 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Tony McChrystal

Re: - Week 40 odds   
According to :
>>       Chelsea v Bolton Wanderers  (15:00BST)     1.17   9.2   22
>
>AMY on Bolton Win.
>
>>       Wigan Athletic v Manchester United  (15:00BST)     15.5   6.5   1.27
>
>AMY on Wigan win.
>
>How Voodoo-accused would that be if it came in?

Sounds like some good results to me, as long as Chelsea lose 1-0 and the Mancs
lose about 265-0.

--
date: Wed, 7 May 2008 12:48:43 +0000 (UTC)   author:   (Vicky Conlan)

Re: - Week 40 odds   
On May 7, 12:26 pm, "Joe Horowitz" <my_n...@youblunder.co.youghey>
wrote:
> ****House Of Hopeful Youks headed paper****

>
> Also, one other one more thing, thanks everyone for taking part, and
> particular thanks to Martin for stepping in to the bleach when required.  If
> we're all very very _very_ good, he may yet run this for us next season.
> I'd like that.  In the meantime, however, this is the last odds post from
> chez Joe, so make the most of it.
>
Never say never. Even when asked if Ben will ever have a meaningful
relationship with a girl.

Seriously, I'm all emotional at the thought of you giving this up Joe.
It's been epic.

>
> This week's match odds (Super Sunday Double-Betcunt, 11/5/08):
>
>
Sorry to be so predictable, but:

>       Chelsea v Bolton Wanderers  (15:00BST)     1.17   9.2   22
BET1: AMY on Chelsea to LOSE

>       Wigan Athletic v Manchester United  (15:00BST)     15.5   6.5   1.27BET2: AMY on Wigan to WIN

>       Martin     5

I think coming joint first with 1,705 youks would be a reasonable
outcome for me this season. Anything less will have to be counted as a
failure.

M
date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:11:57 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Mister M

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
"Joe Horowitz" <my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote in
news:sO5Uj.32251$AL4.10621@newsfe23.ams2: 

> ****House Of Hopeful Youks headed paper****

> 
> ======================================
> 
> This week's match odds (Super Sunday Double-Betcunt, 11/5/08):
> 


>       Wigan Athletic v Manchester United  (15:00BST)     15.5   6.5  

Broadband stealng Travelcock bet: AMY on the DRAW please Joe and I'll give 
you a kiss on Tuesday.

-- 
Cheers, Os
date: 7 May 2008 21:17:07 GMT   author:   Osbourne Ruddock

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
On Wed, 7 May 2008 00:26:12 -0000, "Joe Horowitz"
<my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote:

>****House Of Hopeful Youks headed paper****
>
>      Demo     0

It appears I have no Youks to bet. Could someone spot me one or three?
I guess I could place an AMY bet anyway...




-- 
Demosthenes
'I can't really recall much beyond that. My time in Youksef seems very transient, 
it's like a dream, or a wonderful land like Narnia. Except with glans everywhere.'
date: Fri, 09 May 2008 00:07:11 +1000   author:   Demosthenes

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
"Demosthenes"  wrote in message 
news:j52624dkdfvqo0kej2fvfa6vagh49qp2v8@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 7 May 2008 00:26:12 -0000, "Joe Horowitz"
> <my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote:
>
>>****House Of Hopeful Youks headed paper****
>>
>>      Demo     0
>
> It appears I have no Youks to bet. Could someone spot me one or three?
> I guess I could place an AMY bet anyway...

Ah, yes, sorry I forgot to mention that.  You may of course borrow one Youk 
for betcunting.  Again.


-- 
Joe

"I am the fat puddin', but a single puddingness" - Vicky Conlan
date: Thu, 8 May 2008 15:33:02 -0000   author:   Joe Horowitz hey

Re: - Week 40 odds   
Tony McChrystal wrote:

<snip>

> 
>>      Chelsea v Bolton Wanderers  (15:00BST)     1.17   9.2   22
> 
> 
> AMY on Bolton Win.
> 
> 
>>      Wigan Athletic v Manchester United  (15:00BST)     15.5   6.5   1.27
> 
> 
> AMY on Wigan win.
> 
> How Voodoo-accused would that be if it came in?
> 
> 
>>Balances:
> 
> 
>>      Vicky     398
>>      Joe     393
>>      Poleson     375
>>      Mikey     279
>>      Gra     251
>>      Ben     241
>>      Goalie     236
>>      Cornelius     105
>>      Chopsy     64
>>      Kevin     55
>>      Osbourne     50
>>      Sid     41
> 
> 
> These people have peaked too soon.
> 
> 
>>      TonyMac     5
>>      Nigel     5
>>      Bobby     5
>>      Martin     5
> 
> 
> These people are in just the right position.
> 
> 
>>      Demo     0
> 
> 
> He's got no fucking chance whatsoever.

It seems to me, IIRC that the voodoo rule still applies despite it being 
the last weekend, assuming a minimum of 400 youks is needed to win, that 
Demo needs the voodoo therefore has to bet on Bolton winning to get the 
extra bet, whereas we can get 5 * 15.5 * 9.2 = 713 without it.
date: Thu, 08 May 2008 18:09:28 +0100   author:   nigel

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
Joe Horowitz wrote:
> ****House Of Hopeful Youks headed paper****
> 
> ========================================
> West Ham v Aston Villa  (15:00BST)     3.4   3.7   2.3
> ========================================

All my Youks on an AWAY win please Joe.

BlueRoo
date: Thu, 08 May 2008 20:43:27 +0100   author:   Roo

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
On Wed, 7 May 2008 00:26:12 -0000, "Joe Horowitz"
<my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote:

>****House Of Hopeful Youks headed paper****
>Best of luck to one and all.  Especially me.

*offers bum and a scone*

>This week's match odds (Super Sunday Double-Betcunt, 11/5/08):
>
>                                                            Home  Draw  Away
>      Chelsea v Bolton Wanderers  (15:00BST)     1.17   9.2   22

BET: AMY on Bolton

>      Wigan Athletic v Manchester United  (15:00BST)     15.5   6.5   1.27

BET: AMY on Wigan

>Balances:
>      Demo     0

I worked out that if both of these come off, I could almost have a
chance of winning. That would be hilarious.



-- 
Demosthenes
'I can't really recall much beyond that. My time in Youksef seems very transient, 
it's like a dream, or a wonderful land like Narnia. Except with glans everywhere.'
date: Fri, 09 May 2008 18:51:57 +1000   author:   Demosthenes

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
On Thu, 8 May 2008 15:33:02 -0000, "Joe Horowitz"
<my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote:

>
>"Demosthenes"  wrote in message 
>news:j52624dkdfvqo0kej2fvfa6vagh49qp2v8@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 00:26:12 -0000, "Joe Horowitz"
>> <my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote:
>>
>>>****House Of Hopeful Youks headed paper****
>>>
>>>      Demo     0
>>
>> It appears I have no Youks to bet. Could someone spot me one or three?
>> I guess I could place an AMY bet anyway...
>
>Ah, yes, sorry I forgot to mention that.  You may of course borrow one Youk 
>for betcunting.  Again.

I promise to make good use of it, Joe, love.

Curiosity: what happens to the youks we spunk away? They have to end
up somewhere, surely?


-- 
Demosthenes
'I can't really recall much beyond that. My time in Youksef seems very transient, 
it's like a dream, or a wonderful land like Narnia. Except with glans everywhere.'
date: Fri, 09 May 2008 19:06:32 +1000   author:   Demosthenes

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
> ======================================
>      Birmingham City v Blackburn Rovers  (15:00BST)     2.05   3.7   4.1

AMY on the AWAY (are those odds right?)


>      West Ham v Aston Villa  (15:00BST)     3.4   3.7   2.3

AMY on the AWAY (those odds are right!)

>      Bobby     5
> ============

See you next season.
date: Fri, 9 May 2008 13:41:16 +0100   author:   Bobby Internet

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
>       Chelsea v Bolton Wanderers  (15:00BST)     1.17   9.2   22

BET: AMY on the draw please gaffer.

>       Wigan Athletic v Manchester United  (15:00BST)     15.5   6.5   1.27

BET: AMY on the hone win please gaffer.

>       Nigel     5
date: Fri, 09 May 2008 17:06:34 +0100   author:   nigel

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
"Joe Horowitz" <my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote in message
news:sO5Uj.32251$AL4.10621@newsfe23.ams2...

Okay, I'd really rather have waited for Poleson's betcunt before posting
this, but my Brother's down for the weekend in a bit and it's entirely
possible I'll just forget and miss the deadline.  Which would truly suck.
So here goes what I hope is a bit of a hand-forcing effort.

>                                                            Home  Draw
> Away
>      Chelsea v Bolton Wanderers  (15:00BST)     1.17   9.2   22

BET1:  AMY on Chelsea

>      Wigan Athletic v Manchester United  (15:00BST)     15.5   6.5   1.27
>      Joe     393

BET2:  AMY on Man Utd


-- 
Joe

"I am the fat puddin', but a single puddingness" - Vicky Conlan
date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:01:04 -0000   author:   Joe Horowitz hey

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
J
> This week's match odds (Super Sunday Double-Betcunt, 11/5/08):
> 
>                                                             Home  Draw  Away


>       Derby County v Reading  (15:00BST)     6.55   4.4   1.61

Bah! I fucked this right up, didn't I?

Anyway, last bet of the season etc.

55 Youks on Derby to WIN.

C
date: Fri, 09 May 2008 20:02:43 +0100   author:   Chopsy

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
In article <sO5Uj.32251$AL4.10621@newsfe23.ams2>, 
my_name@youblunder.co.youghey says...
> ****House Of Hopeful Youks headed paper****
> 
>       Portsmouth v Fulham  (15:00BST)     3.65   3.75   2.2

BET: Y75 on a HOME win.
>       Poleson     375

-- 
poleson at gmail dot com
date: Fri, 9 May 2008 22:05:35 +0100   author:   Poleson

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
In article <sO5Uj.32251$AL4.10621@newsfe23.ams2>,
Joe Horowitz <my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote:
>      Chelsea v Bolton Wanderers  (15:00BST)     1.17   9.2   22
>      Kevin     55

BET: please do me 55 on Notlob to beat the russian team.
Thanks
Daddy
date: Fri, 9 May 2008 22:52:35 +0000 (UTC)   author:   (Kevin Conlan)

Re: - Week 40 odds   
>
>                                                             Home  Draw  Away
>       Birmingham City v Blackburn Rovers  (15:00BST)     2.05   3.7   4.1

BET: 125 youks on Blackburn to win AWAY

>       Gra     251
date: Sat, 10 May 2008 05:30:53 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Gra

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
"Joe Horowitz" <my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote in message 
news:sO5Uj.32251$AL4.10621@newsfe23.ams2...
>      Chelsea v Bolton Wanderers  (15:00BST)     1.17   9.2   22

BET1: AMY on a Chelsea win, please, Joe.

>      Everton v Newcastle United  (15:00BST)     1.98   3.55   4.8

BET2: AMY on an Everton win, please, Joe.

>      Mikey     279

I thank you muchly.


-- 
Mike
date: Sat, 10 May 2008 14:46:48 +0100   author:   Michael Cunningham

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
"Joe Horowitz" <my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote in message 
news:sO5Uj.32251$AL4.10621@newsfe23.ams2...
>      West Ham v Aston Villa  (15:00BST)     3.4   3.7   2.3
>      Ben     241


BET: AMY on a DRAW please, Joe


BTN
date: Sat, 10 May 2008 15:33:57 +0100   author:   Sir Benjamin Nunn

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
In message <sO5Uj.32251$AL4.10621@newsfe23.ams2>, Joe Horowitz 
<my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> writes

>      Derby County v Reading  (15:00BST)     6.55   4.4   1.61

Youklessness or glory !!!!!!!l!!!!!

BET: AMY on the HOME win.

>      Goalie     236

-- 
Goalie of the Century
date: Sun, 11 May 2008 07:39:42 +0100   author:   Goalie of the Century

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
"Vicky Conlan"  wrote in message 
news:fvrvjj$28at$1@magenta.plig.net...
> According to :
>>>> BET1: 3 Youks on the draw, please.
>>>>
>>>> BET2: An ever-optomistic 2 Youks on the draw
>>>
>>> I think it's safe to say I did not see that coming.
>>
>>Pleasant surprise?
>
> But enough of your weekend ...


You make it sound like she revealed she had a penis or something.

BTN
date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:10:06 +0100   author:   Sir Benjamin Nunn

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
According to :
>>>>> BET1: 3 Youks on the draw, please.
>>>>>
>>>>> BET2: An ever-optomistic 2 Youks on the draw
>>>>
>>>> I think it's safe to say I did not see that coming.
>>>
>>>Pleasant surprise?
>>
>> But enough of your weekend ...
>
>You make it sound like she revealed she had a penis or something.

Did she not?  :-<
--
date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:23:00 +0000 (UTC)   author:   (Vicky Conlan)

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
"Vicky Conlan"  wrote in message 
news:g0c174$2q9g$1@magenta.plig.net...
> According to :
>>>>>> BET1: 3 Youks on the draw, please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BET2: An ever-optomistic 2 Youks on the draw
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it's safe to say I did not see that coming.
>>>>
>>>>Pleasant surprise?
>>>
>>> But enough of your weekend ...
>>
>>You make it sound like she revealed she had a penis or something.
>
> Did she not?  :-<


She did not. :-<

BTN
date: Fri, 16 May 2008 22:32:18 +0100   author:   Sir Benjamin Nunn

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
According to :
>>>>>>> BET1: 3 Youks on the draw, please.
>>>>>>> BET2: An ever-optomistic 2 Youks on the draw
>>>>>> I think it's safe to say I did not see that coming.
>>>>>Pleasant surprise?
>>>> But enough of your weekend ...
>>>You make it sound like she revealed she had a penis or something.
>> Did she not?  :-<
>She did not. :-<

How much does it cost to get one of those things attached?
--
date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:33:02 +0000 (UTC)   author:   (Vicky Conlan)

Re: [SBL 07/08] - Week 40 odds   
"Vicky Conlan"  wrote in message 
news:g0kuie$19c2$2@magenta.plig.net...
>>>>You make it sound like she revealed she had a penis or something.
>>> Did she not?  :-<
>>She did not. :-<
>
> How much does it cost to get one of those things attached?

I got mine for free with the purchase of my Y chromosome.

All things considered, I've made worse investments.


-- 
Mike
date: Sat, 17 May 2008 18:33:37 +0100   author:   Michael Cunningham

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