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date: 14 Dec 2007 09:37:41 GMT,    group: uk.sport.football        back       
A question for teh froup 3   
If I travelled into Bristol in a car on Monday 12th May and stayed a couple 
of days looking for short wiry folk to have a drink with and eat some food 
and play with large beatastic quaker sounds, would I be likely to find any?

-- 
Cheers, Os
date: 14 Dec 2007 09:37:41 GMT   author:   Osbourne Ruddock

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
"Osbourne Ruddock"  wrote in message 
news:Xns9A06E62D4CB9Astrikeboyhotmailcom@130.133.1.4...
> If I travelled into Bristol in a car on Monday 12th May and stayed a 
> couple
> of days looking for short wiry folk to have a drink with and eat some food
> and play with large beatastic quaker sounds, would I be likely to find 
> any?

The short wiry cunt shouldn't be a problem, I know several.  I'll ask about 
for you and see what I can come up with.

Accommodation may be less straightforward than previously thought, though. 
I have absolutely no idea where I'll be living after this March, but I'm 
pretty sure it's going to be smaller.

Come anyway, it'll be great.  We just might have to pack the rest of your 
family off somewhere else for a bit, but there's loads for them to see 
around here anyway.  There's a cheese shop, a hill shaped a bit like a 
tortoise and some people who shout 'raa' at traffic.


-- 
Joe

"I am the fat puddin', but a single puddingness" - Vicky Conlan
date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:31:43 GMT   author:   Joe Horowitz hey

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
"Joe Horowitz" <my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote in
news:3DC8j.5769$036.2281@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk: 

> 
> Accommodation may be less straightforward than previously thought,
> though. I have absolutely no idea where I'll be living after this
> March, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be smaller.

We'll sort ourselves out for that, although if you have any 
recommendations for cheapish but goodish I'd be happy.

> 
> Come anyway, it'll be great.  We just might have to pack the rest of
> your family off somewhere else for a bit, but there's loads for them
> to see around here anyway.  There's a cheese shop, a hill shaped a bit
> like a tortoise and some people who shout 'raa' at traffic.
>

Sounds fabulous. With only  a bunch of hick towns like Paris, Barcelona 
and Madrid to look forward to, I think we're going to have to relish a 
cosmopolitan experience like Bristol while we can.

-- 
Cheers, Os
date: 14 Dec 2007 22:43:54 GMT   author:   Osbourne Ruddock

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
"Osbourne Ruddock"  wrote in message
news:Xns9A077752994A0strikeboyhotmailcom@130.133.1.4...
> "Joe Horowitz" <my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote in
> news:3DC8j.5769$036.2281@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
>
>>
>> Accommodation may be less straightforward than previously thought,
>> though. I have absolutely no idea where I'll be living after this
>> March, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be smaller.
>
> We'll sort ourselves out for that, although if you have any
> recommendations for cheapish but goodish I'd be happy.

None at all.  For some reason, I've never really found myself needing a 
hotel or something in Bristol.  But if you tell me your budget a bit nearer 
the time, I'll be happy to find and book something for you.  I'll also set a 
few days off work aside, expect some kind of unholy late-night monging with 
heavy beats.  I also hace the good films on DVD, and recently purchased my 
first ever none-film DVD's.  Flight of the Conchords (series 1) and The 
Mighty Boosh (series 1 & 2).  Most enjoyable.

> Sounds fabulous. With only  a bunch of hick towns like Paris, Barcelona
> and Madrid to look forward to, I think we're going to have to relish a
> cosmopolitan experience like Bristol while we can.

You can probably score cheaper crack in Bristol.


-- 
Joe

"I am the fat puddin', but a single puddingness" - Vicky Conlan
date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:29:41 GMT   author:   Joe Horowitz hey

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
On Dec 15, 1:29 pm, "Joe Horowitz" <my_n...@youblunder.co.youghey>
wrote:
>
> You can probably score cheaper crack in Bristol.
>
What are your 'P' prices like?

M
date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:06:37 -0800 (PST)   author:   Mister M

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
"Osbourne Ruddock"  wrote in message 
news:Xns9A077752994A0strikeboyhotmailcom@130.133.1.4...
> "Joe Horowitz" <my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote in
> news:3DC8j.5769$036.2281@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
>
>>
>> Accommodation may be less straightforward than previously thought,
>> though. I have absolutely no idea where I'll be living after this
>> March, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be smaller.
>
> We'll sort ourselves out for that, although if you have any
> recommendations for cheapish but goodish I'd be happy.




>>
>> Come anyway, it'll be great.  We just might have to pack the rest of
>> your family off somewhere else for a bit, but there's loads for them
>> to see around here anyway.  There's a cheese shop, a hill shaped a bit
>> like a tortoise and some people who shout 'raa' at traffic.
>>
>
> Sounds fabulous. With only  a bunch of hick towns like Paris, Barcelona
> and Madrid to look forward to, I think we're going to have to relish a
> cosmopolitan experience like Bristol while we can.
>
> -- 
> Cheers, Os
date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:12:00 -0000   author:   Sir Benjamin Nunn

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
"Osbourne Ruddock"  wrote in message 
news:Xns9A077752994A0strikeboyhotmailcom@130.133.1.4...
> "Joe Horowitz" <my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote in
> news:3DC8j.5769$036.2281@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
>
>>
>> Accommodation may be less straightforward than previously thought,
>> though. I have absolutely no idea where I'll be living after this
>> March, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be smaller.
>
> We'll sort ourselves out for that, although if you have any
> recommendations for cheapish but goodish I'd be happy.


When I went to the Bristol City game in January, the hotel that I stayed in 
for my evening whore fun was pretty good. Think it was the City Inn.

Certainly seemed a cut above the usual City centre chain hotel wankery, and 
ideal for sex'n'shit.

BTN
date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:13:53 -0000   author:   Sir Benjamin Nunn

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
"Mister M"  wrote in message 
news:2c98c4af-58a2-4307-8c5e-6ec20d9cd71b@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 15, 1:29 pm, "Joe Horowitz" <my_n...@youblunder.co.youghey>
> wrote:
>>
>> You can probably score cheaper crack in Bristol.
>>
> What are your 'P' prices like?

IHNIWYJS.


-- 
Joe

"I am the fat puddin', but a single puddingness" - Vicky Conlan
date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:21:14 GMT   author:   Joe Horowitz hey

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
On Dec 18, 2:21 am, "Joe Horowitz" <my_n...@youblunder.co.youghey>
wrote:
> "Mister M"  wrote in message
>
> news:2c98c4af-58a2-4307-8c5e-6ec20d9cd71b@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Dec 15, 1:29 pm, "Joe Horowitz" <my_n...@youblunder.co.youghey>
> > wrote:
>
> >> You can probably score cheaper crack in Bristol.
>
> > What are your 'P' prices like?
>
> IHNIWYJS.
>
Excellent. Would you like to buy some P?

M
date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:31:10 -0800 (PST)   author:   Mister M

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
On Dec 18, 2:13 am, "Sir Benjamin Nunn"  wrote:
>
> When I went to the Bristol City game in January, the hotel that I stayed in
> for my evening whore fun was pretty good. Think it was the City Inn.
>
There should be a website where you could post reviews of the
suitability of hotels for whore-related fun. Hey, maybe there's a
sideline for cheaphookers.co.uk

> Certainly seemed a cut above the usual City centre chain hotel wankery, and
> ideal for sex'n'shit.
>
So there you go Os - when you and the wife and kids want to hire a
hooker (bit like dial-a-driver, but more fun), you know where to go. I
bet that's a weight off your mind.

M
date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:37:09 -0800 (PST)   author:   Mister M

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
"Mister M"  wrote in message 
news:e026f1bf-2a4a-4930-9fdc-445af1f8a624@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 18, 2:21 am, "Joe Horowitz" <my_n...@youblunder.co.youghey>
> wrote:
>> >> You can probably score cheaper crack in Bristol.
>> > What are your 'P' prices like?
>> IHNIWYJS.
>>
> Excellent. Would you like to buy some P?

I'm not sure, because I still don't really know what it is.  Will it mash up 
my mong like a munter?  Or is it just pastry?  Who knows.  Probably not even 
you.

As druglords go, you've been incredibly unhelpful so far.

-- 
Joe

"I am the fat puddin', but a single puddingness" - Vicky Conlan
date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:15:19 GMT   author:   Joe Horowitz hey

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
On Dec 18, 1:15 pm, "Joe Horowitz" <my_n...@youblunder.co.youghey>
wrote:
> "Mister M"  wrote in message
>
> > Excellent. Would you like to buy some P?
>
> I'm not sure, because I still don't really know what it is.  Will it mash up
> my mong like a munter?  Or is it just pastry?  Who knows.  Probably not even
> you.
>
When I lived in Coventry many years ago I used to walk past a block of
flats which was basically a drugs supermarket. I was young and
innocent at the time, so I had no clue what half the stuff I was being
offered actually was. They were probably just making it up.

> As druglords go, you've been incredibly unhelpful so far.
>
At least I'm not a great big unhelpful pisstake.

You may find some of the answers you seek here:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/story.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=10480673

Alternatively you may not. You never met me, alright? I was never
here. Wooo.

M
date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:39:00 -0800 (PST)   author:   Mister M

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
"Mister M"  wrote in message 
news:c658d47d-eabe-4818-ba1f-5649df5201e0@b1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 18, 1:15 pm, "Joe Horowitz" <my_n...@youblunder.co.youghey>
> wrote:
>> I'm not sure, because I still don't really know what it is.  Will it mash 
>> up
>> my mong like a munter?  Or is it just pastry?  Who knows.  Probably not 
>> even
>> you.
>>
> When I lived in Coventry many years ago I used to walk past a block of
> flats which was basically a drugs supermarket. I was young and
> innocent at the time, so I had no clue what half the stuff I was being
> offered actually was. They were probably just making it up.

Aye.  When I lived in Coventry many years ago, I used to stand around in 
front of a block of flats which was basically a drugs supermarket, with a 
load of aspirin and tic-tacs and shit like that in my pockets.  Then, when 
people walked past, I'd offer them drugs with made up names.

Made myself quite a good living for a while there.  Then my tea was ready so 
I had to go home.

> You may find some of the answers you seek here:
> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/story.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=10480673

Ah, okay.  I think I understand the confusion here, that being that 'P' is 
very much a down-under term for speed.  It has many names in this country, 
but I've never heard it called that.  Also strangely rare these days, from 
what I've seen.  I was the only person I know who ever liked it but I still 
maintain it was an uncommonly useful drug at times.  Like caffeine without 
the jitters.

Downside was that it lasted about eight bloody hours and preceded a 
proportionately heavy crash, but if you had a lot of stuff to get done and 
not much time or energy to do it, it was a lifesaver.  Moving house in two 
days time and haven't even started to pack yet?  Get thee to a dealers.

> Alternatively you may not. You never met me, alright? I was never
> here. Wooo.

Shame.  I would actually now like to purchase some 'P'.  I'll take half a 
gram, it'll come in useful for my impending house-move.

Thanks.


-- 
Joe

"I am the fat puddin', but a single puddingness" - Vicky Conlan
date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:30:40 GMT   author:   Joe Horowitz hey

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
On Dec 19, 2:30 am, "Joe Horowitz" <my_n...@youblunder.co.youghey>
wrote:
>
> Shame.  I would actually now like to purchase some 'P'.  I'll take half a
> gram, it'll come in useful for my impending house-move.
>
Then get thee to a pharmacy. One of my so-called colleagues went to
the UK on holiday and came back professing amazement that cold
remedies were, like, easily available in pharmacies and (shock,
horror) even supermarkets! "Don't they know that you can make P from
that??" he said. They do seem to get uncommonly worked up about P
here. It just makes me chuckle.

Mind you, they're just arguing about whether to ban "party pills'
which appear to be some mild alternative to E. Made from sheep dip,
allegedly.

M
date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:39:46 -0800 (PST)   author:   Mister M

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
"Joe Horowitz" <my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote in
news:4YP9j.59893$kt3.41312@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk: 

> 
> Ah, okay.  I think I understand the confusion here, that being that
> 'P' is very much a down-under term for speed.  It has many names in
> this country, but I've never heard it called that.  

It's a highly purified version of meth so kind of like crack without the 
coke.

> 
> Downside was that it lasted about eight bloody hours and preceded a 
> proportionately heavy crash, but if you had a lot of stuff to get done
> and not much time or energy to do it, it was a lifesaver.  Moving
> house in two days time and haven't even started to pack yet?  Get thee
> to a dealers. 

'Tis a shame. I liked the sound of that big house of yours.

> 
>> Alternatively you may not. You never met me, alright? I was never
>> here. Wooo.
> 
> Shame.  I would actually now like to purchase some 'P'.  I'll take
> half a gram, it'll come in useful for my impending house-move.
> 

Don't do it, it's just aspirin and tic-tacs. 

-- 
Cheers, Os
date: 18 Dec 2007 19:42:50 GMT   author:   Osbourne Ruddock

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
Mister M  wrote in
news:8a2d56df-69c4-4bcf-96e8-378775b1f328@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com: 

> Then get thee to a pharmacy. One of my so-called colleagues went to
> the UK on holiday and came back professing amazement that cold
> remedies were, like, easily available in pharmacies and (shock,
> horror) even supermarkets! "Don't they know that you can make P from
> that??" he said. They do seem to get uncommonly worked up about P
> here. It just makes me chuckle.
> 
> Mind you, they're just arguing about whether to ban "party pills'
> which appear to be some mild alternative to E. Made from sheep dip,
> allegedly.
> 

Poleson would've had a ball over here in the last few years, that's for 
sure.

-- 
Cheers, Os
date: 19 Dec 2007 04:14:41 GMT   author:   Osbourne Ruddock

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
"Joe Horowitz" <my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote in message 
news:4YP9j.59893$kt3.41312@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
>> You may find some of the answers you seek here:
>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/story.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=10480673
>
> Ah, okay.  I think I understand the confusion here, that being that 'P' is 
> very much a down-under term for speed.  It has many names in this country, 
> but I've never heard it called that.  Also strangely rare these days, from 
> what I've seen.  I was the only person I know who ever liked it but I 
> still maintain it was an uncommonly useful drug at times.  Like caffeine 
> without the jitters.


I think we've had this conversation before - I dislike speed less than I 
dislike other drugs and it seems to make people less annoying.

In a lot of ways it's not that dissimiliar to some of the 
anti-depressant/anti-psychotic/anti-GIL drugs type that I've tried. More 
pronounced though, and hence potentially more effective.


BTN
date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:16:23 -0000   author:   Sir Benjamin Nunn

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
On Dec 19, 5:14 pm, Osbourne Ruddock  wrote:
> Mister M  wrote innews:8a2d56df-69c4-4bcf-96e8-378775b1f328@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Mind you, they're just arguing about whether to ban "party pills'
> > which appear to be some mild alternative to E. Made from sheep dip,
> > allegedly.
>
> Poleson would've had a ball over here in the last few years, that's for
> sure.
>
He certainly would. Possums look a lot like otters too.

Have you sampled the "party pill" bollox Os? If the government wants
to ban something, it usually means it's good stuff, so I'm itching to
try em.

M
date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:47:54 -0800 (PST)   author:   Mister M

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
"Sir Benjamin Nunn"  wrote in message 
news:5ssndoF1a9sghU1@mid.individual.net...
> I think we've had this conversation before - I dislike speed less than I 
> dislike other drugs and it seems to make people less annoying.

Huh.  Well, on the one hand I can understand that, as it's possibly the 
least 'mind altering' of all popular drugs, including alcohol.  Just gives 
you energy and a positive mindset, although larger doses are fairly intense. 
On the other hand it does make people extremely talkable in a 'one line of 
reasoning blurring into the next' kind of monologuey sort of way, and I've a 
very low tolerance of people talking 'at' me.

> In a lot of ways it's not that dissimiliar to some of the 
> anti-depressant/anti-psychotic/anti-GIL drugs type that I've tried. More 
> pronounced though, and hence potentially more effective.

Hmmm.  DWTWP here a little.  Much of the reason for speed's decline in 
popularity, I think, it's because the 'comedown' is a little notorious.  I 
think some of the anti-depressants on the market are intended for fairly 
continual use, in that they slightly alter the brains chemical whatsits in 
some supposedly beneficial way which allows people to go about their 
business.  I've a friend who's currently responding very well to some, I've 
been impressed.

I don't think speed could or should be used like that, it's very much a 
'further or longer you go up for, the further or longer you have to come 
down' thing and unlike, say, mdma, no amount of just getting a good sleep 
and eating a fuckload of fruit smoothies'n'shit seems to make much 
difference.  It's as if it borrows your energy and happiness from whenever 
you stop taking it, at which point you have to pay it back with a little 
interest.

Prolonged use invariably seems to turn previously normal people into 
paranoid nutters, and what also makes it a potentially dangerous drug is 
that the body builds a tolerance to it very quickly, meaning that 
exponentially larger doses become necessary over a fairly short period of 
time.  However, the damage to kidneys'n'shit is proportionate, meaning you'd 
have to keep inflicting greater and greater long term damage to yourself in 
order to keep enjoying the same results.  Also, it's a strong appetite 
suppressant, which can also be dangerous to anorexics and whatnot, who I 
imagine are relatively common among the depressed community.

I'm no counsellor or anything, but if I was, I suspect speed would be one of 
the last things I'd recommend to a very depressed person, except possibly in 
a kind of 'take this once, write a whole load of shit down and then consult 
that shit when you're feeling depressed again in two days.  It'll probably 
contain some great positive ideas'n'shit amongst the endless pages of 
waffle' sort of way.  And I suspect I would get fired for that.


-- 
Joe

"I am the fat puddin', but a single puddingness" - Vicky Conlan
date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:13:58 GMT   author:   Joe Horowitz hey

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
"Joe Horowitz" <my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote in message 
news:qljaj.80317$cJ3.31630@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
>> In a lot of ways it's not that dissimiliar to some of the 
>> anti-depressant/anti-psychotic/anti-GIL drugs type that I've tried. More 
>> pronounced though, and hence potentially more effective.
>
> Hmmm.  DWTWP here a little.  Much of the reason for speed's decline in 
> popularity, I think, it's because the 'comedown' is a little notorious.  I 
> think some of the anti-depressants on the market are intended for fairly 
> continual use, in that they slightly alter the brains chemical whatsits in 
> some supposedly beneficial way which allows people to go about their 
> business.  I've a friend who's currently responding very well to some, 
> I've been impressed.


Heh. Cunt.

I hate everyone who responds well to antidepressants.

As we've discussed before, most such drugs have little affect on me, apart 
from blunting my creative edge and making me feel a bit like a brainless 
zombie. But because I'm a fat cunt, the ones they give most people that make 
them lazier and increase their appetite aren't so appropriate. Zyban, OTOH, 
is more speed-like and stimulant in nature, and the MAOIs are similar, I 
think.

Which drug is your friend taking?


> I don't think speed could or should be used like that, it's very much a 
> 'further or longer you go up for, the further or longer you have to come 
> down' thing


Ah, now that's where I think it's actually similar to the way in which most 
prescribed psychoactive drugs work. They up the dose over time as the body 
becomes accustomed to it, until eventually the point where it would be 
near-toxic, and then get 'switch' to an alternative drug to continue the 
ride.

Most of the people who post to depression or self-harm froups have allowed 
themselves to be put on that cycle. And when they try to go cold turkey it 
ain't good.


> and unlike, say, mdma, no amount of just getting a good sleep and eating a 
> fuckload of fruit smoothies'n'shit seems to make much difference.  It's as 
> if it borrows your energy and happiness from whenever you stop taking it, 
> at which point you have to pay it back with a little interest.


That's a very nice analogy. I like that a lot.


> I'm no counsellor or anything, but if I was, I suspect speed would be one 
> of the last things I'd recommend to a very depressed person,


I wouldn't recommend any drugs to a depressed person.


> except possibly in a kind of 'take this once, write a whole load of shit 
> down and then consult that shit when you're feeling depressed again in two 
> days.  It'll probably contain some great positive ideas'n'shit amongst the 
> endless pages of waffle' sort of way.  And I suspect I would get fired for 
> that.


Pack your stuff, and see me in my office at 10:30, please.

BTN
date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:21:31 -0000   author:   Sir Benjamin Nunn

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
Joe Horowitz wrote:

> "Sir Benjamin Nunn"  wrote in message 
> news:5ssndoF1a9sghU1@mid.individual.net...
> 
>>I think we've had this conversation before - I dislike speed less than I 
>>dislike other drugs and it seems to make people less annoying.
> 
> 
> Huh.  Well, on the one hand I can understand that, as it's possibly the 
> least 'mind altering' of all popular drugs, including alcohol.

Does that mean I'm not safe to drive after bingeing on ginger biscuits?
date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:01:34 +0000   author:   nigel

Re: A question for teh froup 3   
"Sir Benjamin Nunn"  wrote in message 
news:5suu1bF1b9sanU1@mid.individual.net...
> "Joe Horowitz" <my_name@youblunder.co.youghey> wrote in message 
> news:qljaj.80317$cJ3.31630@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> Hmmm.  DWTWP here a little.  Much of the reason for speed's decline in 
>> popularity, I think, it's because the 'comedown' is a little notorious. 
>> I think some of the anti-depressants on the market are intended for 
>> fairly continual use, in that they slightly alter the brains chemical 
>> whatsits in some supposedly beneficial way which allows people to go 
>> about their business.  I've a friend who's currently responding very well 
>> to some, I've been impressed.
>
> Heh. Cunt.
>
> I hate everyone who responds well to antidepressants.

It's only been a few weeks, mind, and he does seem to have lapsed a bit this 
week.  Tbh, I'm begging to think it's basically all tied down to Liverpool's 
fortunes, he's very fond of that particular team and when they're doing well 
his face brightens up and he's all chirpy'n'shit, and when they're being 
rubbish he goes all rubbishcunt again.

God knows what kind of self-harming mingmongery he'd be up to by now if he 
was a Coventry fan.

> As we've discussed before, most such drugs have little affect on me, apart 
> from blunting my creative edge and making me feel a bit like a brainless 
> zombie. But because I'm a fat cunt, the ones they give most people that 
> make them lazier and increase their appetite aren't so appropriate. Zyban, 
> OTOH, is more speed-like and stimulant in nature, and the MAOIs are 
> similar, I think.

I have to confess, I know absolutely fuck all about prescription drugs and 
whatnot.

> Which drug is your friend taking?

I've no idea.  To be fair, he's probably more of an aquaintance than a 
friend, but to say any more about how I know him would give clues as to his 
identity and as such might not be strictly fair.  But he's a good chap who 
I'm reasonably fond of.

> Ah, now that's where I think it's actually similar to the way in which 
> most prescribed psychoactive drugs work. They up the dose over time as the 
> body becomes accustomed to it, until eventually the point where it would 
> be near-toxic, and then get 'switch' to an alternative drug to continue 
> the ride.

That sounds fucking awful.  Would I be right in supposing that the theory 
might go along the lines of 'something that might work in the short-term 
might just be enough to get you up and running enough to cope with the 
poorer long-term', or is it mostly just a matter of 'chuck drugs at people 
because it's easier than actually helping'?

> Most of the people who post to depression or self-harm froups have allowed 
> themselves to be put on that cycle. And when they try to go cold turkey it 
> ain't good.

I'm not surprised.

> I wouldn't recommend any drugs to a depressed person.

No, me neither if I think about it.  Drugs can be good for happy, stable 
people, the times in my life I've been unhappy I'm pretty sure drugs have 
only made things worse.

> Pack your stuff, and see me in my office at 10:30, please.

Oh goody, a Nunn Disciplinary.  Shall I bring my arses?


-- 
Joe

"I am the fat puddin', but a single puddingness" - Vicky Conlan
date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:51:02 GMT   author:   Joe Horowitz hey

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