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date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:48:03 GMT,    group: uk.sport.cricket        back       
Out - bails blown off   
A batsman faced a ball today that nipped back and went through the
gate quite high. The next thing the bails were on the ground. The
batsman walks off. I said to the backer up to hold his mate because I
was going to ask my colleague what he saw. I sort of thought it was
the wind that had blown off the bails. My colleague was sure the bails
had not blown off and that there had been no interference by the
keeper (he would have needed gorilla arms). The batsman didn't hang
around anyway so we continued.

It must have been one of those clipping the top balls.
 
Got me thinking all the same. If that ball had hit the pad instead of
slipping through, you would probably have said not out, too high,
hawkeye might have disagreed, and if the ball went through the gate as
it did , snicko might have shown not a peep passing the wicket.

max.it
date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:48:03 GMT   author:   (max.it)

Re: Out - bails blown off   
<max.it> wrote in message news:4862cf4a.57802281@news.btinternet.com...
>
> A batsman faced a ball today that nipped back and went through the
> gate quite high. The next thing the bails were on the ground. The
> batsman walks off. I said to the backer up to hold his mate because I
> was going to ask my colleague what he saw. I sort of thought it was
> the wind that had blown off the bails. My colleague was sure the bails
> had not blown off and that there had been no interference by the
> keeper (he would have needed gorilla arms). The batsman didn't hang
> around anyway so we continued.
>
> It must have been one of those clipping the top balls.

Top balls? ;o)

> Got me thinking all the same. If that ball had hit the pad instead of
> slipping through, you would probably have said not out, too high,
> hawkeye might have disagreed,

Usually Hawkeye reckons it's going higher than the umpire thinks it is, 
probably because the umpire is viewing it at a slight downward angle and 
because the ball is rising when it hits the pad.
-- 
David North
date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:17:48 +0100   author:   David North

Re: Out - bails blown off   
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:17:48 +0100, "David North"
 wrote:

><max.it> wrote in message news:4862cf4a.57802281@news.btinternet.com...
>>
>> A batsman faced a ball today that nipped back and went through the
>> gate quite high. The next thing the bails were on the ground. The
>> batsman walks off. I said to the backer up to hold his mate because I
>> was going to ask my colleague what he saw. I sort of thought it was
>> the wind that had blown off the bails. My colleague was sure the bails
>> had not blown off and that there had been no interference by the
>> keeper (he would have needed gorilla arms). The batsman didn't hang
>> around anyway so we continued.
>>
>> It must have been one of those clipping the top balls.
>
>Top balls? ;o)
>
>> Got me thinking all the same. If that ball had hit the pad instead of
>> slipping through, you would probably have said not out, too high,
>> hawkeye might have disagreed,
>
>Usually Hawkeye reckons it's going higher than the umpire thinks it is, 
>probably because the umpire is viewing it at a slight downward angle and 
>because the ball is rising when it hits the pad.
>-- 
>David North

It was a spiteful pitch, with plenty of questions in it. I spoke about
it to the batsman and the keeper together on the second evening and
nobody seemed to know what had happened.


Coaching tactics: 
One batsman who had been hanging around and scoring rightly was left
with #11.  The guy is a level 3 coach, and I overheard him say, to the
young lad, only play the shots that you are able to play, your cut and
your drive, anything else, just take it on the body and you'll be ok. 
I will be trying this out with my wee lads team,  the Jack Hobbs
theory. Pad them up and send them into the nets without a bat or
gloves. As soon as they are able to catch the delivery, they should be
fit to hit it with a bat. 

max.it
date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:47:12 GMT   author:   (max.it)

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