kenhiggs8@hotmail.com writes:

> On Jun 17, 8:35 am, "dechucka"  wrote:
>>  wrote in message
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>> news:aae48a38-602a-4575-a0cd-8295ca6a3b67@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 14, 1:12 pm, "dechucka"  wrote:
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>> > "subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message
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>> >news:2390e096-ad07-4b9c-964b-f6b1afa3e8f4@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>> > On Jun 14, 7:56 am, "dechucka"  wrote:
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>> > > "subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message
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>> > >news:56f3b9b5-6c77-414d-bbd4-e5ea32c2ff9c@n19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> > > On Jun 14, 3:22 am, "Cicero"  wrote:
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>> > > > b) he gestures to the umpire often that he is not out when he must
>> > > > know he is and that is pretty poor sportsmanship.
>>
>> > > > What bullshit. How do you know he knows he is out? Can you read minds?
>> > > > You
>> > > > can't read posts.
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>> > > > And which batsman has never gestured where he believes the ball may
>> > > > have
>> > > > hit
>> > > > if he has a belief (whether accurate or not) that he is not out - or
>> > > > trying
>> > > > to be given not out?
>> > > >evidently you have never played cricket. it is not possible to glove a
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>> > > ball like symonds did and not know you have gloved it. but if he your
>> > > god, then i don't want to spoil you belief system.
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>> > > if you have to walk when you glove the ball do all players do it or does
>> > > this rule only apply to Australians. If given out when they have not
>> > > touched
>> > > the ball are they allowed to stay. Players should take the bad decisions
>> > > which benefit them or disadvantage them with the same grace.
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>> > =did you see the match? symonds gloved it and gestured wildly to the
>> > umpire that his hand and bat were miles from the ball. if have not
>> > been watching, can you actually see the footage before taking a
>> > position? you are coming across as someone who shoots off without a
>> > clue of what is being talked about.
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>> > yes I have seen the incident in question. So what? it is no different to a
>> > wicketkeeper appealing for a legside catch that they knew wasn't to try
>> > and
>> > deflect the Umpires attention away from the fact that the ball was a wide.
>> > Why pick on Symonds in this situation and accuse the Umpires of being
>> > biased
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>> > +also, i have never said he should walk, so you are raising a red
>> > herring there. see my clarification to another symonds-worshipping
>> > cretin earlier in this thread.
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>> > fine if he didn't need to walk what are you getting your knickers in a
>> > knot
>> > about.-
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>> The problem is that it's this continual blind defence of anything any
>> Australian player does.
>>
>> Symonds quite clearly gloved it, and then quite clearly gestured that
>> he didn't touch.
>>
>> So-
>
> So don't defend the unbelievable statements that there's no way
> Symonds would have known he gloved it.
>
> If you're happy to defend the fact that he chose not to walk
> a) don't criticise other opposing players when they chose to do the
> same
> b) don't bring in ridiculous arguments about there being no way
> Symonds would have known he gloved it
>
> Higgs

I'd love to hear Chucky's defence for all things Ocker if someone like
Symonds was caught with the contents of his mothers medical cabinet
running through his blood following a post match drugs test.