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date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:52:02 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.sport.cricket        back       
Re: symonds let off   
On Jun 13, 12:56 pm, "will_s"  wrote:
> "subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message
>
> news:c3f4867d-1fb6-4362-a7b4-c2bf729525a0@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jun 13, 10:45 am, "will_s"  wrote:
> >> "subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message
>
> >>news:40e1be49-2632-4233-9a02-1fb18132c714@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...> >> > yup, same gentleman. symonds's career average should be half of what
> >> > it is as he is out twice at least each time he steps out to bat.
>
> >> Once again would you like to provide facts to back this statement up or> >> is
> >> just another case of your delusions taking hold once again
>
> > ok, sydney: out 3 times in one innings; perth, out twice in once
> > innings, windies tour, out twice in one inning in the previous 2
> > matches, yesterday out twice. but, don't watch matches and accuse
> > others of delusions: after all, that is what playing hard and fair is
> > all about.
>
> "as he is out twice at least each time he steps out to "
>
> SO HOW MANY TESTS HAS HE PLAYED ?

surely you can find that info on cricinfo?

>
> each time
>
> each time
>
> YOU ARE A CRETIN

for pointing out that this gent gets enormous benefit of horrendous
umpiring, and that he always gestures that he not out even though
players are not supposed to? i think you will find that the cretin
is ....... YOU

symonds is a cheat, and you are a brainless idiot who revels in
supporting cheats. and please, go back and view EACH innings symonds
has played, and see for yourself. mr integrity is out AT LEAST ONCE
before he is given out.
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:52:02 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: symonds let off   
"subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message 
news:84cb3df5-4ee3-44f1-b865-194821f3322b@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 14, 8:33 am, "dechucka"  wrote:

> > fine if he didn't need to walk what are you getting your knickers in a
> > knot
> > about.
>
> +about idiots like you who refuse to believe that bad umpiring
> systematically favours oz
>
> come on prove it with some analysis or is all down to your memory and the
> fact that your team is not as good as Australia and you need an excuse?

+come on, watch some matches before running to a nationalist and
fundamentalist defense.

I watch all the Australian matches I can

>
> + and players like symonds are crooks because
> they induce it. this inflates both the team win records and individual
> records. pay attention will you?
>
> Australia wins because it is better in that match and lose because the 
> other
> team is better. Your team always seems to lose because of the umpires or
> cheating opposition or whatever

+australia has been the best team in the world over the past decade, in
case you need the obvious to be re-stated. but not as good as the
records will have them because of the bensons, tiffins, bucknors and
oxenfords of the world.

really please back this up with facts not your biases


>
> +you seem to have a very limited attention span and need to be told
> everything twice. your mum should
> take you to the child psychiologist.
>
> the problem is that you haven't actually said anything logical or 
> provable.
> You screaming the same thing over and over again doesn't make it correct

+the problem is that you will not recognise logic and proof if it bit
you in the ass. your denials and defense of bad umpiring is just
pathetic.

you supply yhe proof and I will accept it OK
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:21:28 +1000   author:   dechucka

Re: symonds let off   
wrote in message 
news:1f780394-d057-43f3-afce-39f91f55a1f1@j1g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 16, 7:02 am, "dechucka"  wrote:
>  wrote in message
>
> news:0ff64ad5-7162-4b16-8f76-ae6002166f3c@w4g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 14, 9:19 am, "dechucka"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Cicero"  wrote in message
>
> >news:D9D4k.10652$IK1.1442@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> > > "dechucka"  wrote in message
> > >news:4852f423$0$12943$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> > >> "Cicero"  wrote in message
> > >>news:iqC4k.10640$IK1.2643@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > >>> b) he gestures to the umpire often that he is not out when he must
> > >>> know he is and that is pretty poor sportsmanship.
>
> > >>> What bullshit. How do you know he knows he is out? Can you read 
> > >>> minds?
> > >>> You can't read posts.
>
> > >>> And which batsman has never gestured where he believes the ball may
> > >>> have
> > >>> hit if he has a belief (whether accurate or not) that he is not 
> > >>> out -
> > >>> or
> > >>> trying to be given not out?
>
> > >> Only Australians do it. You have to remember that in this poor things
> > >> mind all the sins of cricket are due to the Australians and that
> > >> anytime
> > >> they win it is due to cheating Umpires
>
> > > Must be a lot of cheating umpires over the past 150 years. :)
>
> > Yep and you must also realise that sledging, aggressive appealing and
> > Bodyline is also Australia's fault and never undertaken by any other
> > country. This bloke is a sub continent Huggies- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I've never said that sledging or aggressive appealing is solely
> confined to Australian cricketers, plenty of other teams do it too.
> But whenever I point out an instance of Australia doing it, you deny
> it occured, yet you're always quick to bleat if you feel someone has
> done it to Australia.
> As for Bodyline, that was a massive beat up
>
> thankyou for your backdown. Now off to the Soccer World Cup or whatever is
> happening now- Hide quoted text -
>

+Huh?

+All I was doing was pointing out to the group (as if they needed
reminding) that you're well known for spreading disinformation and
falsehoods on this and other groups.


your well known for being an anti Australian wanker but so what. One who 
cannot back up their arguments with facts as I do

+If you want to make allegations about me, at least have the decency to
try to provide some proof


your posts are proof enough


Higgs
date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:34:37 +1000   author:   dechucka

Re: symonds let off   
Hopefully the about to be trialled test cricket challenge system
will help prevent the "oops, wrong planet!" decisions that impact
games, and have been of enormous benefit to Mr. Symonds in the last
year.

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/7459562.stm>
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date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:06:12 -0700   author:   Steven Davies-Morris

Re: symonds let off   
wrote in message 
news:43a49ba9-fd91-4d70-b320-119dcd3be79e@u6g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 17, 8:35 am, "dechucka"  wrote:
>  wrote in message
>
> news:aae48a38-602a-4575-a0cd-8295ca6a3b67@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 14, 1:12 pm, "dechucka"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message
>
> >news:2390e096-ad07-4b9c-964b-f6b1afa3e8f4@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 14, 7:56 am, "dechucka"  wrote:
>
> > > "subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message
>
> > >news:56f3b9b5-6c77-414d-bbd4-e5ea32c2ff9c@n19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Jun 14, 3:22 am, "Cicero"  wrote:
>
> > > > b) he gestures to the umpire often that he is not out when he must
> > > > know he is and that is pretty poor sportsmanship.
>
> > > > What bullshit. How do you know he knows he is out? Can you read 
> > > > minds?
> > > > You
> > > > can't read posts.
>
> > > > And which batsman has never gestured where he believes the ball may
> > > > have
> > > > hit
> > > > if he has a belief (whether accurate or not) that he is not out - or
> > > > trying
> > > > to be given not out?
> > > >evidently you have never played cricket. it is not possible to glove 
> > > >a
>
> > > ball like symonds did and not know you have gloved it. but if he your
> > > god, then i don't want to spoil you belief system.
>
> > > if you have to walk when you glove the ball do all players do it or 
> > > does
> > > this rule only apply to Australians. If given out when they have not
> > > touched
> > > the ball are they allowed to stay. Players should take the bad 
> > > decisions
> > > which benefit them or disadvantage them with the same grace.
>
> > =did you see the match? symonds gloved it and gestured wildly to the
> > umpire that his hand and bat were miles from the ball. if have not
> > been watching, can you actually see the footage before taking a
> > position? you are coming across as someone who shoots off without a
> > clue of what is being talked about.
>
> > yes I have seen the incident in question. So what? it is no different to 
> > a
> > wicketkeeper appealing for a legside catch that they knew wasn't to try
> > and
> > deflect the Umpires attention away from the fact that the ball was a 
> > wide.
> > Why pick on Symonds in this situation and accuse the Umpires of being
> > biased
>
> > +also, i have never said he should walk, so you are raising a red
> > herring there. see my clarification to another symonds-worshipping
> > cretin earlier in this thread.
>
> > fine if he didn't need to walk what are you getting your knickers in a
> > knot
> > about.-
>
> The problem is that it's this continual blind defence of anything any
> Australian player does.
>
> Symonds quite clearly gloved it, and then quite clearly gestured that
> he didn't touch.
>
> So-

=So don't defend the unbelievable statements that there's no way
Symonds would have known he gloved it.

I didn't

snip
date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:58:58 +1000   author:   dechucka

Re: symonds let off   
"Walter Mitty"  wrote in message 
news:g386qf$suq$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> kenhiggs8@hotmail.com writes:
>
>> On Jun 17, 8:35 am, "dechucka"  wrote:
>>>  wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:aae48a38-602a-4575-a0cd-8295ca6a3b67@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jun 14, 1:12 pm, "dechucka"  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > "subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message
>>>
>>> >news:2390e096-ad07-4b9c-964b-f6b1afa3e8f4@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>>> > On Jun 14, 7:56 am, "dechucka"  wrote:
>>>
>>> > > "subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message
>>>
>>> > >news:56f3b9b5-6c77-414d-bbd4-e5ea32c2ff9c@n19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>> > > On Jun 14, 3:22 am, "Cicero"  wrote:
>>>
>>> > > > b) he gestures to the umpire often that he is not out when he must
>>> > > > know he is and that is pretty poor sportsmanship.
>>>
>>> > > > What bullshit. How do you know he knows he is out? Can you read 
>>> > > > minds?
>>> > > > You
>>> > > > can't read posts.
>>>
>>> > > > And which batsman has never gestured where he believes the ball 
>>> > > > may
>>> > > > have
>>> > > > hit
>>> > > > if he has a belief (whether accurate or not) that he is not out - 
>>> > > > or
>>> > > > trying
>>> > > > to be given not out?
>>> > > >evidently you have never played cricket. it is not possible to 
>>> > > >glove a
>>>
>>> > > ball like symonds did and not know you have gloved it. but if he 
>>> > > your
>>> > > god, then i don't want to spoil you belief system.
>>>
>>> > > if you have to walk when you glove the ball do all players do it or 
>>> > > does
>>> > > this rule only apply to Australians. If given out when they have not
>>> > > touched
>>> > > the ball are they allowed to stay. Players should take the bad 
>>> > > decisions
>>> > > which benefit them or disadvantage them with the same grace.
>>>
>>> > =did you see the match? symonds gloved it and gestured wildly to the
>>> > umpire that his hand and bat were miles from the ball. if have not
>>> > been watching, can you actually see the footage before taking a
>>> > position? you are coming across as someone who shoots off without a
>>> > clue of what is being talked about.
>>>
>>> > yes I have seen the incident in question. So what? it is no different 
>>> > to a
>>> > wicketkeeper appealing for a legside catch that they knew wasn't to 
>>> > try
>>> > and
>>> > deflect the Umpires attention away from the fact that the ball was a 
>>> > wide.
>>> > Why pick on Symonds in this situation and accuse the Umpires of being
>>> > biased
>>>
>>> > +also, i have never said he should walk, so you are raising a red
>>> > herring there. see my clarification to another symonds-worshipping
>>> > cretin earlier in this thread.
>>>
>>> > fine if he didn't need to walk what are you getting your knickers in a
>>> > knot
>>> > about.-
>>>
>>> The problem is that it's this continual blind defence of anything any
>>> Australian player does.
>>>
>>> Symonds quite clearly gloved it, and then quite clearly gestured that
>>> he didn't touch.
>>>
>>> So-
>>
>> So don't defend the unbelievable statements that there's no way
>> Symonds would have known he gloved it.
>>
>> If you're happy to defend the fact that he chose not to walk
>> a) don't criticise other opposing players when they chose to do the
>> same
>> b) don't bring in ridiculous arguments about there being no way
>> Symonds would have known he gloved it
>>
>> Higgs
>
> I'd love to hear Chucky's defence for all things Ocker if someone like
> Symonds was caught with the contents of his mothers medical cabinet
> running through his blood following a post match drugs test.

WOW you see to keep some interesting freinds

>
date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:00:11 +1000   author:   dechucka

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