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date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:15:09 -0700,    group: uk.sport.cricket        back       
Re: symonds let off   
"subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message 
news:265cb894-13f8-4ce5-a48b-4697748501ea@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> is it in his contract that the umpires will give him one life in every
> innings? what a way to pad your record. not too much integrity in this
> piece of work.
>
> 34.2 Bravo to Symonds, no run, what's this now? Bravo slips in another
> short one down leg stump, Symonds shapes to half-leave, half-tickle it
> fine and the ball clips the inside of his glove before Ramdin takes a
> good catch down the leg side, they all ask the question but umpire
> Benson is unmoved ... oh ho ho, replays show ball did indeed make
> contact with the gloves, and Symonds stands his ground, much to the
> crowd's displeasure, so West Indies can feel hard done



Isnt umpire Mark Benson the same idiot who made so many horrendous
decisions against India not to mention taking Pontings ADVICE before
declaring an Indian batsman out in the last India vs Aus test series ?

But our western worshipping resident Indian slaves like Geico Caveman
will only attack a black umpire Steve Bucknor for incompetence as usual.

LoL
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:15:09 -0700   author:   StraightDrive

Re: symonds let off   
"subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message 
news:40e1be49-2632-4233-9a02-1fb18132c714@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> yup, same gentleman. symonds's career average should be half of what
> it is as he is out twice at least each time he steps out to bat.


Once again would you like to provide facts to back this statement up or is 
just another case of your delusions taking hold once again
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:45:01 +1000   author:   will_s

Re: symonds let off   
"subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message 
news:c3f4867d-1fb6-4362-a7b4-c2bf729525a0@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 13, 10:45 am, "will_s"  wrote:
> "subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message
>
> news:40e1be49-2632-4233-9a02-1fb18132c714@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > yup, same gentleman. symonds's career average should be half of what
> > it is as he is out twice at least each time he steps out to bat.
>
> Once again would you like to provide facts to back this statement up or is
> just another case of your delusions taking hold once again

=ok, sydney: out 3 times in one innings; perth, out twice in once
innings, windies tour, out twice in one inning in the previous 2
matches, yesterday out twice. but, don't watch matches and accuse
others of delusions: after all, that is what playing hard and fair is
all about.

I think he was either out only once in each of these innings or maybe not 
out. It is impossible to be out more than once in an innings
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:16:40 +1000   author:   dechucka

Re: symonds let off   
"subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message 
news:c3f4867d-1fb6-4362-a7b4-c2bf729525a0@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 13, 10:45 am, "will_s"  wrote:
>> "subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:40e1be49-2632-4233-9a02-1fb18132c714@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > yup, same gentleman. symonds's career average should be half of what
>> > it is as he is out twice at least each time he steps out to bat.
>>
>> Once again would you like to provide facts to back this statement up or 
>> is
>> just another case of your delusions taking hold once again
>
> ok, sydney: out 3 times in one innings; perth, out twice in once
> innings, windies tour, out twice in one inning in the previous 2
> matches, yesterday out twice. but, don't watch matches and accuse
> others of delusions: after all, that is what playing hard and fair is
> all about.


"as he is out twice at least each time he steps out to "

SO HOW MANY TESTS HAS HE PLAYED ?

each time


each time


YOU ARE A CRETIN
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:56:13 +1000   author:   will_s

Re: symonds let off   
"Sanjiv Karmarkar"  wrote in message 
news:bc0860a9-f14c-44a9-9d07-db5dfe8ff861@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 12, 11:23 pm, "subi...@notmail.com" 
wrote:
> yup, same gentleman. symonds's career average should be half of what
> it is as he is out twice at least each time he steps out to bat.

>>Y'know the same thing happened in Antigua, again with Benson.  There
>>is no way Benson can be this bad, this has to be deliberate.

>>Perhaps this is the affirmative action for Symonds?

>> Sanjiv Karmarkar



Naaah........Mark Benson only cares about Australian wins, NOT Symonds 
scores.
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:01:10 -0700   author:   StraightDrive

Re: symonds let off   
b) he gestures to the umpire often that he is not out when he must
know he is and that is pretty poor sportsmanship.

What bullshit. How do you know he knows he is out? Can you read minds? You 
can't read posts.

And which batsman has never gestured where he believes the ball may have hit 
if he has a belief (whether accurate or not) that he is not out - or trying 
to be given not out?
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:22:06 GMT   author:   Cicero

Re: symonds let off   
"Cicero"  wrote in message 
news:iqC4k.10640$IK1.2643@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> b) he gestures to the umpire often that he is not out when he must
> know he is and that is pretty poor sportsmanship.
>
> What bullshit. How do you know he knows he is out? Can you read minds? You 
> can't read posts.
>
> And which batsman has never gestured where he believes the ball may have 
> hit if he has a belief (whether accurate or not) that he is not out - or 
> trying to be given not out?

Only Australians do it. You have to remember that in this poor things mind 
all the sins of cricket are due to the Australians and that anytime they win 
it is due to cheating Umpires
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:26:44 +1000   author:   dechucka

Re: symonds let off   
"dechucka"  wrote in message 
news:4852f423$0$12943$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "Cicero"  wrote in message 
> news:iqC4k.10640$IK1.2643@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> b) he gestures to the umpire often that he is not out when he must
>> know he is and that is pretty poor sportsmanship.
>>
>> What bullshit. How do you know he knows he is out? Can you read minds? 
>> You can't read posts.
>>
>> And which batsman has never gestured where he believes the ball may have 
>> hit if he has a belief (whether accurate or not) that he is not out - or 
>> trying to be given not out?
>
> Only Australians do it. You have to remember that in this poor things mind 
> all the sins of cricket are due to the Australians and that anytime they 
> win it is due to cheating Umpires
>

Must be a lot of cheating umpires over the past 150 years. :)
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:12:35 GMT   author:   Cicero

Re: symonds let off   
"Cicero"  wrote in message 
news:D9D4k.10652$IK1.1442@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "dechucka"  wrote in message 
> news:4852f423$0$12943$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>> "Cicero"  wrote in message 
>> news:iqC4k.10640$IK1.2643@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> b) he gestures to the umpire often that he is not out when he must
>>> know he is and that is pretty poor sportsmanship.
>>>
>>> What bullshit. How do you know he knows he is out? Can you read minds? 
>>> You can't read posts.
>>>
>>> And which batsman has never gestured where he believes the ball may have 
>>> hit if he has a belief (whether accurate or not) that he is not out - or 
>>> trying to be given not out?
>>
>> Only Australians do it. You have to remember that in this poor things 
>> mind all the sins of cricket are due to the Australians and that anytime 
>> they win it is due to cheating Umpires
>>
>
> Must be a lot of cheating umpires over the past 150 years. :)

Yep and you must also realise that sledging, aggressive appealing and 
Bodyline is also Australia's fault and never undertaken by any other 
country. This bloke is a sub continent Huggies
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:19:14 +1000   author:   dechucka

Re: symonds let off   
"subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message 
news:56f3b9b5-6c77-414d-bbd4-e5ea32c2ff9c@n19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 14, 3:22 am, "Cicero"  wrote:
> b) he gestures to the umpire often that he is not out when he must
> know he is and that is pretty poor sportsmanship.
>
> What bullshit. How do you know he knows he is out? Can you read minds? You
> can't read posts.
>
> And which batsman has never gestured where he believes the ball may have 
> hit
> if he has a belief (whether accurate or not) that he is not out - or 
> trying
> to be given not out?

>evidently you have never played cricket. it is not possible to glove a
ball like symonds did and not know you have gloved it. but if he your
god, then i don't want to spoil you belief system.

if you have to walk when you glove the ball do all players do it or does 
this rule only apply to Australians. If given out when they have not touched 
the ball are they allowed to stay. Players should take the bad decisions 
which benefit them or disadvantage them with the same grace.
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:56:08 +1000   author:   dechucka

Re: symonds let off   
"subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message 
news:2390e096-ad07-4b9c-964b-f6b1afa3e8f4@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 14, 7:56 am, "dechucka"  wrote:
> "subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message
>
> news:56f3b9b5-6c77-414d-bbd4-e5ea32c2ff9c@n19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 14, 3:22 am, "Cicero"  wrote:
>
> > b) he gestures to the umpire often that he is not out when he must
> > know he is and that is pretty poor sportsmanship.
>
> > What bullshit. How do you know he knows he is out? Can you read minds? 
> > You
> > can't read posts.
>
> > And which batsman has never gestured where he believes the ball may have
> > hit
> > if he has a belief (whether accurate or not) that he is not out - or
> > trying
> > to be given not out?
> >evidently you have never played cricket. it is not possible to glove a
>
> ball like symonds did and not know you have gloved it. but if he your
> god, then i don't want to spoil you belief system.
>
> if you have to walk when you glove the ball do all players do it or does
> this rule only apply to Australians. If given out when they have not 
> touched
> the ball are they allowed to stay. Players should take the bad decisions
> which benefit them or disadvantage them with the same grace.

=did you see the match? symonds gloved it and gestured wildly to the
umpire that his hand and bat were miles from the ball. if have not
been watching, can you actually see the footage before taking a
position? you are coming across as someone who shoots off without a
clue of what is being talked about.

yes I have seen the incident in question. So what? it is no different to a 
wicketkeeper appealing for a legside catch that they knew wasn't to try and 
deflect the Umpires attention away from the fact that the ball was a wide. 
Why pick on Symonds in this situation and accuse the Umpires of being biased

+also, i have never said he should walk, so you are raising a red
herring there. see my clarification to another symonds-worshipping
cretin earlier in this thread.

fine if he didn't need to walk what are you getting your knickers in a knot 
about.
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:12:58 +1000   author:   dechucka

Re: symonds let off   
"subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message 
news:c3f4867d-1fb6-4362-a7b4-c2bf729525a0@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 13, 10:45 am, "will_s"  wrote:
>> "subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:40e1be49-2632-4233-9a02-1fb18132c714@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > yup, same gentleman. symonds's career average should be half of what
>> > it is as he is .
>>
>> Once again would you like to provide facts to back this statement up or 
>> is
>> just another case of your delusions taking hold once again
>
> ok, sydney: out 3 times in one innings; perth, out twice in once
> innings, windies tour, out twice in one inning in the previous 2
> matches, yesterday out twice. but, don't watch matches and accuse
> others of delusions: after all, that is what playing hard and fair is
> all about.

How many tests / innings has he played ?



"out twice at least each time he steps out to bat"

So  you mention a couple of innings but you said "each time "

So you are a fucking moron
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:55:32 +1000   author:   will_s

Re: symonds let off   
"subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message 
news:56f3b9b5-6c77-414d-bbd4-e5ea32c2ff9c@n19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 14, 3:22 am, "Cicero"  wrote:
> b) he gestures to the umpire often that he is not out when he must
> know he is and that is pretty poor sportsmanship.
>
> What bullshit. How do you know he knows he is out? Can you read minds? You
> can't read posts.
>
> And which batsman has never gestured where he believes the ball may have 
> hit
> if he has a belief (whether accurate or not) that he is not out - or 
> trying
> to be given not out?

evidently you have never played cricket. it is not possible to glove a
ball like symonds did and not know you have gloved it. but if he your
god, then i don't want to spoil you belief system.

Seems like a standard comeback- you have never played cricket so you don't 
know. Your logic is amazing.

And amazingly, you didn't (or couldn't) answer the second point.
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:24:46 GMT   author:   Cicero

Re: symonds let off   
"subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message 
news:5e7a627e-958c-46f1-9781-b7deb4a3f9a2@i36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 14, 9:55 am, "will_s"  wrote:
>> "subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:c3f4867d-1fb6-4362-a7b4-c2bf729525a0@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 13, 10:45 am, "will_s"  wrote:
>> >> "subi...@notmail.com"  wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:40e1be49-2632-4233-9a02-1fb18132c714@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > yup, same gentleman. symonds's career average should be half of what
>> >> > it is as he is .
>>
>> >> Once again would you like to provide facts to back this statement up 
>> >> or
>> >> is
>> >> just another case of your delusions taking hold once again
>>
>> > ok, sydney: out 3 times in one innings; perth, out twice in once
>> > innings, windies tour, out twice in one inning in the previous 2
>> > matches, yesterday out twice. but, don't watch matches and accuse
>> > others of delusions: after all, that is what playing hard and fair is
>> > all about.
>>
>> How many tests / innings has he played ?
>>
>> "out twice at least each time he steps out to bat"
>>
>> So you mention a couple of innings but you said "each time "
>
> ok, many times, more often than most? does that satisfy you? sample:
> india v aus: 4 let offs in 8 innings. aus v wi: 3 let offs in 5
> innings.

maybe that has some truth in it but your original post was in error

more often then most ?   since we dont know the stats for most that is 
another statement that you need to withdraw

batsmen have runs, some get it in their favour , others they go against 
them. Symonds is having a run where decisions are favouring him

btw: you left out a couple when he was giving out when not out in those 
figures
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:52:15 +1000   author:   will_s

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