A batsman straight drives down the field and the bowler manages to get a 
slight touch on the ball. The ball then hits the umpire standing at the 
bowlers end and deflects back onto the stumps whilst the non-facing batsman 
is out of his ground. Is it out?

Thanks

ROB

On Jun 9, 2:34 pm, "Robert Flint" <R.C.Fl...@nospam.thanks> wrote:
> A batsman straight drives down the field and the bowler manages to get a
> slight touch on the ball. The ball then hits the umpire standing at the
> bowlers end and deflects back onto the stumps whilst the non-facing batsman
> is out of his ground. Is it out?

I would have thought so, yes, but it would be a pretty unfortunate way
to get out.  IIRC the ball is still live if it hits the umpire for the
purposes of scoring runs, so logically it should be still live for the
purposes of a dimissal.

On 9 Jun, 14:34, "Robert Flint" <R.C.Fl...@nospam.thanks> wrote:
> A batsman straight drives down the field and the bowler manages to get a
> slight touch on the ball. The ball then hits the umpire standing at the
> bowlers end and deflects back onto the stumps whilst the non-facing batsman
> is out of his ground. Is it out?

would the umpire be in any state to make a calm and rational descsion
at that juncture ?  ;-)

didds

"Gavin Cawley"  wrote in message 
news:1dcaf9dd-f81a-411f-8238-7081cb5a8d8a@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 9, 2:34 pm, "Robert Flint" <R.C.Fl...@nospam.thanks> wrote:
>> A batsman straight drives down the field and the bowler manages to get a
>> slight touch on the ball. The ball then hits the umpire standing at the
>> bowlers end and deflects back onto the stumps whilst the non-facing 
>> batsman
>> is out of his ground. Is it out?
>
> I would have thought so, yes, but it would be a pretty unfortunate way
> to get out.  IIRC the ball is still live if it hits the umpire for the
> purposes of scoring runs, so logically it should be still live for the
> purposes of a dimissal.

So could a batsman be out caught if the ball deflects off an umpire without 
touching the ground?

ROB

On 10 Jun, 10:59, "Robert Flint" <R.C.Fl...@nospam.thanks> wrote:
> "Gavin Cawley"  wrote in message
>
> news:1dcaf9dd-f81a-411f-8238-7081cb5a8d8a@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jun 9, 2:34 pm, "Robert Flint" <R.C.Fl...@nospam.thanks> wrote:
> >> A batsman straight drives down the field and the bowler manages to get a
> >> slight touch on the ball. The ball then hits the umpire standing at the
> >> bowlers end and deflects back onto the stumps whilst the non-facing
> >> batsman
> >> is out of his ground. Is it out?
>
> > I would have thought so, yes, but it would be a pretty unfortunate way
> > to get out.  IIRC the ball is still live if it hits the umpire for the
> > purposes of scoring runs, so logically it should be still live for the
> > purposes of a dimissal.
>
> So could a batsman be out caught if the ball deflects off an umpire without
> touching the ground?

AFAIK, yes, it would be a legal catch (but I haven't checked the laws
in detail, so I might be wrong).

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:59:28 +0100, "Robert Flint"
<R.C.Flint@nospam.thanks> wrote:

>
>"Gavin Cawley"  wrote in message 
>news:1dcaf9dd-f81a-411f-8238-7081cb5a8d8a@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 9, 2:34 pm, "Robert Flint" <R.C.Fl...@nospam.thanks> wrote:
>>> A batsman straight drives down the field and the bowler manages to get a
>>> slight touch on the ball. The ball then hits the umpire standing at the
>>> bowlers end and deflects back onto the stumps whilst the non-facing 
>>> batsman
>>> is out of his ground. Is it out?
>>
>> I would have thought so, yes, but it would be a pretty unfortunate way
>> to get out.  IIRC the ball is still live if it hits the umpire for the
>> purposes of scoring runs, so logically it should be still live for the
>> purposes of a dimissal.
>
>So could a batsman be out caught if the ball deflects off an umpire without 
>touching the ground?
>
>ROB 
>
>

Yup. The umpire is an agreed obstacle on the field. The ball does not
become dead after hitting the umpire, even if the umpire does.
An obstacle usually attracts an allowance in runs, but you can see
that in this case it could get dangerous.

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