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date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 06:09:46 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.sport.cricket        back       
Brittle middle order   
Yikes.

Ian Bell lbw b I Brien 0
Paul Collingwood c R Taylor b K Mills 0

Although given previous Tests I'm sure we can dig ourselves out of a
hole. The form of these two is quite worrying though. The words zone,
central, comfort and contracts spring to mind. Oh, and inconsistency.

Richard
date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 06:09:46 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Richard Dixon

Re: Brittle middle order   
Should England have a home test warm up game ?

England v County Champions
OR England v County Select

over 4 or 5 days ??
date: 05 Jun 2008 14:38:04 +0100   author:   Bill Hewitt

Re: Brittle middle order   
On 5 Jun, 14:38, Bill Hewitt  wrote:

> England v County Champions
> OR England v County Select
>
> over 4 or 5 days ??  

That would be a useful (and make good viewing). England vs "England
Lions" in a 5-day Test at the start of the season.

Richard
date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 06:58:47 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Richard Dixon

Re: Brittle middle order   
Richard Dixon wrote:
> On 5 Jun, 14:38, Bill Hewitt  wrote:
> 
>> England v County Champions
>> OR England v County Select
>>
>> over 4 or 5 days ??  
> 
> That would be a useful (and make good viewing). England vs "England
> Lions" in a 5-day Test at the start of the season.
> 
> Richard
Good grief you'll tire the lads out! Besides, think how many 20/20 games 
you could play instead and make shedloads. Think you've lost the current 
plot.

Or perhaps I'm a little sad and cynical
date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:48:05 +0800   author:   Mal

Re: Brittle middle order   
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 06:09:46 -0700 (PDT), Richard Dixon
 wrote:

>Yikes.
>
>Ian Bell lbw b I Brien 0
>Paul Collingwood c R Taylor b K Mills 0
>
>Although given previous Tests I'm sure we can dig ourselves out of a
>hole. 
...and we did

>The form of these two is quite worrying though. The words zone,
>central, comfort and contracts spring to mind. Oh, and inconsistency.
>
>Richard

barring a huge score in the second innings you have to think that the
return of Flintoff for the 1st SA test will inevitably at the expense
of Collingwood - yes Freddie has been in bad form with the bat but it
would be hard to be in worse form than Collie....


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date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:42:30 +0100   author:   Luke Curtis

Re: Brittle middle order   
"Luke Curtis"  wrote in message 
news:89ng44t6e9ht04g56akh06uimu6vpi606l@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 06:09:46 -0700 (PDT), Richard Dixon
>  wrote:
>
>>Yikes.
>>
>>Ian Bell lbw b I Brien 0
>>Paul Collingwood c R Taylor b K Mills 0
>>
>>Although given previous Tests I'm sure we can dig ourselves out of a
>>hole.
> ...and we did
>
>>The form of these two is quite worrying though. The words zone,
>>central, comfort and contracts spring to mind. Oh, and inconsistency.
>>
>>Richard
>
> barring a huge score in the second innings you have to think that the
> return of Flintoff for the 1st SA test will inevitably at the expense
> of Collingwood - yes Freddie has been in bad form with the bat but it
> would be hard to be in worse form than Collie....

Given that Collingwood hasn't been bowling much owing to the shoulder 
problem, treat him as a specialist batsman.  Which means replacing him with 
a batsman e.g. Key, Bopara, Shah etc.  Just a thought...

Andrew
date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 17:39:28 +1200   author:   Andrew Dunford

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