On May 27, 10:12 pm, "StraightDrive" 
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> On May 27, 9:29 pm, "StraightDrive" 
> wrote:
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> > "arahim"  wrote in message
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> >news:993ff42c-70fb-469d-ae7f-e3b3028afb39@g16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...> > On May 27, 8:36 pm, "StraightDrive" 
> > wrote:
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> > > "arahim"  wrote in message
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> > >news:63633cfb-3cff-45c1-a90a-f28590903052@g16g2000pri.googlegroups.com.> > > On May 27, 6:52 pm, "StraightDrive" 
> > > wrote:
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> > > > "arahim"  wrote in message
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> > > >news:46097f06-7583-44c5-a42b-caa364f9c2f2@a32g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On May 27, 6:18 pm, "StraightDrive" 
> > > > wrote:
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> > > > > "arahim"  wrote in message
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> > > > >news:d99d270c-f781-4793-bc25-0c18adc62c37@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
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> > > > > > "Pakistan management should tell the players not to talk religion
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > sports"
> > > > > > Kunal
>
> > > > > Kunal is an intellectually challenged idiot, dont ya know arahim ?> > > > >>>The problem as you know here was not limited to Kunal.
>
> > > > I know.
>
> > > > There are no intellectuals on this newsgroup in the first place.
>
> > > >>What does any of this have to do with intellectuals. A word that I
> > > >>have found strange.
>
> > > Because you were complaining about comments from idiots and I told
> > > you there are no intellectuals on rsc.
>
> > > > Lots of posters including you "delude" themselves they are. LOL
>
> > > >>Now now don't ruin my babe-magnet self image. That's what I usually
> > > >>delude myself to be:)
>
> > > I do it too.......Don't worry....you have company in that issue......
>
> > > Another thing is babes dont fall for intellectuals......they go for the
> > > bad guys :-)
>
> > >>Ah now I see why you do what you do:)
>
> > What did I do ?
>
> > > > > > "He must have been told by Pakistani authority to make this kinda
> > > > > > stupid, and a real inflammatory statement. "
> > > > > > LKM
>
> > > > > > "While I believe its okay to thank God while accepting a prize, it
> > > > > > should not become a situation about talking about individual
> > > > > > religions. Like I thank all Hindus, or I thank all Christians or I
> > > > > > thank all muslims, buddhists etc. "
> > > > > > outsourcingbusiness
>
> > > > > > "He better, india has the second highest population of muslims in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > world.
> > > > > > I was thinking WTF? Is that what it is? muslims vs infidels? "
> > > > > > JackofallTrades
>
> > > > > > "Inzi had also once thanked muslims all over
> > > > > > the world for their support or something like that. I wish Shastri
> > > > > > had
> > > > > > reminded Malik that there are more muslims in India than in
> > > > > > Pakistan
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > not all of them would be supporting Pakistan. "
> > > > > > Mohan
>
> > > > > > "I also felt that Shastri should have said something like that. He
> > > > > > may
> > > > > > have been surprised to hear that too and chose to ignore that to> > > > > > avoid
> > > > > > any controversy. "
> > > > > > Mastercheif/Shikari Shambhu
>
> > > > > > "Why couldn't he just say Pakistanis? What does religion have to> > > > > > do
> > > > > > with his win or loss? He is representing a country - Pakistan. The
> > > > > > team he captained is not "Muslims" or "Islam". If Danish Kaneria> > > > > > had
> > > > > > captained the team and said "Thanks to all the Hindus in the
> > > > > > world",
> > > > > > would your reaction have been the same? "
> > > > > > RishiX
>
> > > > > > "ok, let me tell you what he was alluding to. I don't know if you
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > aware, but this issue of Indian Muslims supporting Pakistan is a> > > > > > sensitive issue. There is history behind it. And frankly, there
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > who do support Pakistan. Probably a minority, but let's face it,> > > > > > they
> > > > > > exist. "
> > > > > > Mohan
>
> > > > > > "Now the truth is starting to emerge and I will commend you Mohan
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > it. People have been throwing all this crap about hurting the
> > > > > > sensitivities of Indian muslims when it is their own sensitivities
> > > > > > "
> > > > > > arahim
>
> > > > > > "We know that Shoaib is just a country boy who was given a script
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > read by the powers-to-be. This has been happening for decades; we
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > all used to it and none of us are surprised by it. And yet, that> > > > > > does
> > > > > > not mean that we will not point it out each time it happens. "
> > > > > > Sanjiv Karmarkar
>
> > > > > > "Why The script for Afridi was different? "
> > > > > > arahim
>
> > > > > > "It is a world where Muslims, Hindus and a Sikh currently play for
> > > > > > England, where Buddhists, Muslims, Christians and a Hindu play for
> > > > > > Sri
> > > > > > Lanka, where Hashim Amla turns out for South Africa, where a Patel
> > > > > > plays for New Zealand, where Muslims, Sikhs, Christians and Hindus
> > > > > > play (and have always played) for India. Why would Shoaib think,> > > > > > then,
> > > > > > that the Muslims of the world were collectively rooting for the
> > > > > > Pakistan team or that they felt let down by its defeat? Did he
> > > > > > stop
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > think of how Danish Kaneria, his Hindu team-mate, might feel
> > > > > > hearing
> > > > > > his Test skipper all but declare that the Pakistan team is a
> > > > > > Muslim
> > > > > > team that plays for the Muslims of the world?" Kesavan
>
> > > > > >http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/other/content/current/story/352132.html
>
> > > > > > So how do Songavkar's countrymates and teammates feel? Should not
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > problem in my opinion. Its's just independence celebrations where
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > are coming up with Israel supporting and jewish players from all> > > > > > over
> > > > > > the world. Goes to show how overboard the whole Shoaib/Pakistan
> > > > > > paranoia went overboard about Shoaib thanking all muslims. Bonus> > > > > > question: Who should the Indian jews root for in this match?
>
> > > > > Your analogy between Shoaib and Songavkar is completely idiotic.
>
> > > > >>>There is no analogy between Songavkar and Shoaib (neither of whom> > > > >>>did
> > > > >>>anything wrong) to begin with.
>
> > > > Analogy between the "two issues" of Shoaib and Songavkar you are
> > > > comparing, I meant.
>
> > > >>No infact what I am saying is they are different. The OP contains the
> > > >>kernel of one of the differences: The sensitivities (over) of these
> > > >>posters. Let me restate:
> > > >>"ok, let me tell you what he was alluding to. I don't know if you are
> > > >>aware, but this issue of Indian Muslims supporting Pakistan is a
> > > >>sensitive issue. There is history behind it. And frankly, there are
> > > >>some
> > > >>who do support Pakistan. Probably a minority, but let's face it, they
> > > >>exist. "
> > > >>Mohan
>
> > > Mohan hit the bulls eye. That was a perfect comment and also the
> > > truth.
>
> > > >>"Now the truth is starting to emerge and I will commend you Mohan for
> > > >>it. People have been throwing all this crap about hurting the
> > > >>sensitivities of Indian muslims when it is their own sensitivities "> > > >>arahim
>
> > > I have no idea about that thread and your response to Mohan.
>
> > > If Shoaib apologized to all the muslims of the world for losing to India
> > > then
> > > it is a problem.
>
> > >>It was not that he lost to India. Just that they lost. See his
> > >>original quote. There is nothing in it to suggest that it was directed> > >>at India.
>
> > This is what is the definition of "cunning".
>
> > Shoaib does not have to explicitly mention the word "India" if he
> > made the comment at the end of the match he lost to India.
>
> >> He made the comment at the end of a world cup final.
>
> India beat Pak in T20 World cup final.
>

"Why state the obvious."
StraightDrive
:)

> > You know it and I know it but you CHOSE the route of "deception".
>
> >> I see the light:)
>
> Must be Allah showing you the light :-)
>

Now who brings up god:) Why not be strong in the conviction of your
arguments:) Or are you claiming you and god are the same?:)

> > > There is no similarity between Shoaibs comments and Indian Jew
> > > Songvakars
> > > comments about playing for Israel.
>
> > >>Songavkar's comments are not even under discussion.
>
> > Then there is no need for you to post that link to the cricinfo column and
> > start this thread with title "Where is the Outrage?"
>
> >>It was Perlman and Niranjan's interaction that was under discussion
> >>not what Songavkar said.
>
> Even then there is NO similarity between Shoaibs comment and
> their comments.
>

I have said so
"Why state the obvious."
StraightDrive.


> > > And hence there is no need for you to ask rsc'ers to post their outrage.
>
> > >>It's a rhetorical question:)
>
> > Where is the issue of rhetorical if there is NO similarity between the
> > two issues.
>
> >>There isn't but the reasoning of these posters would have us believe
> >>there is:)
>
> Firstly speak for yourself
>

> Secondly the reasoning is just an excuse for you to "attempt" to
> get back at them.
>

See you did not follow your own advice:) Now you are speaking for me:)

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> > > >>It should not be Shoaib's problem if people see skeletons where there
> > > >>are none. Oversensitization of these posters is their problem.
> > > > >>>At least I am not presenting one.
>
> > > > You did.
>
> > > >>See above.
>
> > > You too....in my response.....
>
> > > > Why should there be any outrage about Songavkar which is the
> > > > title of the topic you started ?
>
> > > >>Because these posters came up with some high fallutin reasons behind> > > >>the Shoaib saga which in principle should apply here as well. What I> > > >>am infact saying is that this was just a mask for the real reasons
> > > >>which Mohan points out.
>
> > > Dude.....the same principle will not apply since the two issues are
> > > NOT similar.
>
> > > Case closed.
>
> > >>khul ja sum sum (open sesame).
>
> > Yes I thought about the words "open sesame" yesterday.
>
> > I do not recall how it happened suddenly but I do remember watching
> > a movie Alibaba and 40 thieves in my childhood and the hero goes
> > infront of a small cave and shouts
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