On Feb 18, 9:29 am, sir.jpturc...@neuf.fr wrote:
> On Feb 17, 11:21 pm, "regn.pickford"  wrote:
> *>
> *> [quote stt]
> *> "What they're looking at is having something within the house,
> *> which is a room which provides an extra level of protection
> *>  for when the fire passes through," he said
> *> [quote fin]
>
> Hi  MATE !
> You are always the same considerate & open minded gentleman I have
> known you to be over those years !
>  I will supply the system to you soon.
> There are two designs
> One in pre-constrained Monier Cement which can be build by Concrete
> companies like Bell ( right ? I lost touch somehow) and delivered by
> cranes to your backyard !
> The second you can build yourself just the way I made my own home
> seismic-proof to "S" waves at the mere cost of a bit of sweat :
> Mucking out 35 cubic meter of dirt and replacing it with sea
> cobbles ... a mere shifting of some 200 tons of material which I did
> it alone with a pic, a shovel, a wheelbarrow,  a sledge hammer and a
> good crowbar ... and all carting with my one ton trailer ! Just good
> sport
>
> The "Turcaud Shelter" will withstand 1200 degree for 20 minutes, 600
> Km/h wind for an hour and a 9.2 Quake as long as the epicenter is more
> than a mile away ! Also it will provide provision to survive the
> conditions of survival following a major catastrophe as the one
> endured in Victoria !
>
> Anyway bear with me,  I have to rush some place for a day or so !
>
> Upon my return I will explain to you how the 'Turcaud Shelter'
> works,can be built & can save  up to 12 people at the time most
> easily
>
 Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
 Australia Mining Pioneer

Re your 2 above design ideas for disaster shelters

Both sound ideal, and by mass production the costs could be reduced by
many fold for fast cheap installation , it may not be necessary to
include earth quake in some shelters but flood , tsunami , avalanche
in others

I myself always design my home and work with potential disaster as
part of the original set up, with emergency exit and food and first
aid and camping gear at hand at all times

sadly in the capitalist system they build the cheapest thing they can
sell to the first mug they can suck in at the maximum problem

the fires are not the problem

its the low IQ of the buyers in many cases, poverty in others ,  , and
greedy developers and or slack regulation in others

perhaps it is best to look at each site, and design a shelter for each
site ,and customers needs, and a safety/ survival area can be
incorporated into the design of each home and each community

I suspect a low cost bubble as in your first idea that could be flown
in or built on site maybe a viable low cost option in MANY cases
though , a few thousand dollars to shelter a family for an hour may be
commercially viable and effective as a last resort if / when ALL plans
fail  ,  bolt for the TURCAUD survival module

Inside it you are guaranteed to survive for one hour , would sell and
add value to property in fire prone areas

Have you thought about using air bubbles in the concrete to lower
costs and weight while increasing heat proofing ? and using a kaolin
clay instead on standard concrete , like an old fashioned bush oven in
reverse

Some years ago I experimented with making styrene foam igloo home
shelter with simply pouring liquid styrene over a dome tent then spray
concrete over the foam , functional but not salable at the time

If its keept tojust a shelter foran hour as a survival bubble it could
easily be mass produced

but a safty room inside the home may be cheaper and even better if it
was designed well , some homes could be modified to soon be safe as a
survival bubble room , perhaps the bath room or laundry already are
and the owners only need education toNOT PANICK

Fire protection of the home is possible if the owner wants to learn
how to the advise is available NOW and its not rocket science nor that
expensive

People whohave survived several fires do soon learn
pity the experts and the sheeple dont listen to those who have
survivedmany fires for many centuries

No Aboriginal ever burnt to death in a bush fire , before white man
came and pretended to be an expert

White EXPERTS with a million dollars and every modern survival tool
available , soon die , with aboriginal children people watching them
and offering advice

white people will listen or die , then we can save the country once
they are dead or educated

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burke_and_Wills_expedition


kanga
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