As resounding approval for David Davis begins to reverberate around
the country Brown will begin biting his nails to the quick. He will
shiver in his yellow skin whilst he contemplates the awful thought
that David Davis may have hit a chord with the public.

Can it be possible, he will be thinking, that in modern Britain people
still care about old fashioned virtues such as: Honesty, integrity,
patriotism and courage. No he will tell himself as he slips further
and further down the ratings. We have brain-washed the electorate into
accepting what we have planned for them; there is no escape for them
now.

Over his “brecky” he will be inwardly smiling as the Scottish oats
slide down his gargantuan throat……..Smiling at the thought that Davis
could ever be a lurking threat to his tenure at No 10.   His slipshod
mind will revert to concentrating on turning the UK into an Orwellian
nightmare. A nightmare fit for socialists/communists, deviates and
traitors.

incognito wrote:
> As resounding approval for David Davis begins to reverberate around
> the country Brown will begin biting his nails to the quick. He will
> shiver in his yellow skin whilst he contemplates the awful thought
> that David Davis may have hit a chord with the public.
> 
> Can it be possible, he will be thinking, that in modern Britain people
> still care about old fashioned virtues such as: Honesty, integrity,
> patriotism and courage. No he will tell himself as he slips further
> and further down the ratings. We have brain-washed the electorate into
> accepting what we have planned for them; there is no escape for them
> now.
> 
> Over his “brecky” he will be inwardly smiling as the Scottish oats
> slide down his gargantuan throat……..Smiling at the thought that Davis
> could ever be a lurking threat to his tenure at No 10.   His slipshod
> mind will revert to concentrating on turning the UK into an Orwellian
> nightmare. A nightmare fit for socialists/communists, deviates and
> traitors.
> 


Go for it.  You are on the right track.

R

incognito wrote:
> As resounding approval for David Davis begins to reverberate around
> the country Brown will begin biting his nails to the quick. He will
> shiver in his yellow skin whilst he contemplates the awful thought
> that David Davis may have hit a chord with the public.

> 

    Tory support down 7 points. Perhaps his nails have been given bit of 
a respite?

On Jun 15, 8:09 am, Fred  wrote:
> incognito wrote:
> > As resounding approval for David Davis begins to reverberate around
> > the country Brown will begin biting his nails to the quick. He will
> > shiver in his yellow skin whilst he contemplates the awful thought
> > that David Davis may have hit a chord with the public.
>
>     Tory support down 7 points. Perhaps his nails have been given bit of
> a respite?

From "The Independant" a paper well known for its support of Gordon's
vile nail-biting tendency. of course you never mentioned how much
brown's ratings have gone down, on a daily basis too.

incognito wrote:
> On Jun 15, 8:09 am, Fred  wrote:
>> incognito wrote:
>>> As resounding approval for David Davis begins to reverberate around
>>> the country Brown will begin biting his nails to the quick. He will
>>> shiver in his yellow skin whilst he contemplates the awful thought
>>> that David Davis may have hit a chord with the public.
>>     Tory support down 7 points. Perhaps his nails have been given bit of
>> a respite?
> 
> From "The Independant" a paper well known for its support of Gordon's
> vile nail-biting tendency. of course you never mentioned how much
> brown's ratings have gone down, on a daily basis too.


  I'm no fan of Brown or his appaling government. I just dont like the 
idea of any unneccesary distraction from their wretchedness.

On Jun 15, 9:51 am, Fred  wrote:
> incognito wrote:
> > On Jun 15, 8:09 am, Fred  wrote:
> >> incognito wrote:
> >>> As resounding approval for David Davis begins to reverberate around
> >>> the country Brown will begin biting his nails to the quick. He will
> >>> shiver in his yellow skin whilst he contemplates the awful thought
> >>> that David Davis may have hit a chord with the public.
> >>     Tory support down 7 points. Perhaps his nails have been given bit of
> >> a respite?
>
> > From "The Independant" a paper well known for its support of Gordon's
> > vile nail-biting tendency. of course you never mentioned how much
> > brown's ratings have gone down, on a daily basis too.
>
>   I'm no fan of Brown or his appaling government. I just dont like the
> idea of any unneccesary distraction from their wretchedness.

With due respect, you should await to see the outcome of this before
you judge.  I have a feeling and I also hope, that the forthcoming bye-
election will send Brown even further down in the publics’ opinion.

If Labour fail to give opposition by not selecting a candidate to
oppose David Davis  and the voters still give Davis a massif turnout
in support  it could be the end for Brown. Even his own party will not
like to continue being led by a coward.

The same could happen if they do put up a candidate. If, again, D.D.
gets a massive yes vote  it will be more then a sock in the eye for
the nail-nibbler. Potential stalking-horses could appear  from within
the ranks of Labour.

Both options  could be calamitous for Gordon, a case of tails he loses
or heads Davis wins. Of course it is possible it will go the wrong way
for Mr Davis but going by the present level of support he is getting,
that looks unlikely.

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:52:08 -0700, incognito wrote:

Gordon Brown after talking with Sarkozy and Merkel over the EU 
CONstitution stitch-up.

http://www.erichufschmid.net/Dumb-down/Baboon-pink-butt.JPG

incognito wrote:
> As resounding approval for David Davis begins to reverberate around
> the country Brown will begin biting his nails to the quick. He will
> shiver in his yellow skin whilst he contemplates the awful thought
> that David Davis may have hit a chord with the public.

David Davis has hit a chord with the public but what will really happen 
in the end? It might start a national debate, it should do so in fact, 
but for him personally he could end up with jam on his face. What if the 
people of his constituency donn't bother to give him the massive 
'independent' vote he seeks? He'll ring pretty hollow in such a case the 
so-called 'massive support' will be seen as media clap trap.

> Can it be possible, he will be thinking, that in modern Britain people
> still care about old fashioned virtues such as: Honesty, integrity,
> patriotism and courage.

Of course they do and long may they reign but is he really exemplifying 
those values?

>  No he will tell himself as he slips further
> and further down the ratings. We have brain-washed the electorate into
> accepting what we have planned for them; there is no escape for them
> now.

Why not unbrainwash yourself?

> Over his “brecky” he will be inwardly smiling as the Scottish oats
> slide down his gargantuan throat……..Smiling at the thought that Davis
> could ever be a lurking threat to his tenure at No 10.   His slipshod
> mind will revert to concentrating on turning the UK into an Orwellian
> nightmare. A nightmare fit for socialists/communists, deviates and
> traitors.

You're starting to foam at the mouth again.

incognito wrote:
> On Jun 15, 9:51 am, Fred  wrote:
>> incognito wrote:
>>> On Jun 15, 8:09 am, Fred  wrote:
>>>> incognito wrote:
>>>>> As resounding approval for David Davis begins to reverberate
>>>>> around the country Brown will begin biting his nails to the
>>>>> quick. He will shiver in his yellow skin whilst he contemplates
>>>>> the awful thought that David Davis may have hit a chord with the
>>>>> public.
>>>> Tory support down 7 points. Perhaps his nails have been given bit
>>>> of a respite?
>>
>>> From "The Independant" a paper well known for its support of
>>> Gordon's vile nail-biting tendency. of course you never mentioned
>>> how much brown's ratings have gone down, on a daily basis too.
>>
>> I'm no fan of Brown or his appaling government. I just dont like the
>> idea of any unneccesary distraction from their wretchedness.
>
> With due respect, you should await to see the outcome of this before
> you judge.  I have a feeling and I also hope, that the forthcoming
> bye- election will send Brown even further down in the publics’
> opinion.
>
> If Labour fail to give opposition by not selecting a candidate to
> oppose David Davis  and the voters still give Davis a massif turnout
> in support  it could be the end for Brown. Even his own party will not
> like to continue being led by a coward.

And what if they don't give Davis massive support? Who wins then, both 
Brown and Cameron I suggest.

> The same could happen if they do put up a candidate. If, again, D.D.
> gets a massive yes vote  it will be more then a sock in the eye for
> the nail-nibbler. Potential stalking-horses could appear  from within
> the ranks of Labour.

If the Labour party puts up a candidate they'll be utter fools. Let 
Davis fight against the offcila loonies and a loony from The Sun, a 
situation which any good spin doctor on the Labour side should be able 
to turn into a farce.

> Both options  could be calamitous for Gordon, a case of tails he loses
> or heads Davis wins. Of course it is possible it will go the wrong way
> for Mr Davis but going by the present level of support he is getting,
> that looks unlikely.

We'll see. A week is a long time in politics as Harold 'Gannex' Wilson 
once said.

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:28:55 +0200, "John of Aix"
 wrote:

>If the Labour party puts up a candidate they'll be utter fools. Let 
>Davis fight against the offcila loonies and a loony from The Sun, a 
>situation which any good spin doctor on the Labour side should be able 
>to turn into a farce.

How could Labour turn it into a farce if they have created an even
bigger one by not standing? Basically, without a candidate, and if
Kelvin does decide to stand (looking doubtful at the moment), Labour
would effectively be the official silent partner of Rupert Murdoch and
420 days (that's the number that Kelvin thought of).

MM

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:23:27 +0200, "John of Aix"
 wrote:

>incognito wrote:
>> As resounding approval for David Davis begins to reverberate around
>> the country Brown will begin biting his nails to the quick. He will
>> shiver in his yellow skin whilst he contemplates the awful thought
>> that David Davis may have hit a chord with the public.
>
>David Davis has hit a chord with the public but what will really happen 
>in the end? It might start a national debate, it should do so in fact, 
>but for him personally he could end up with jam on his face.

He has said, more than once, that he doesn't care for his personal
position. He's 58, for goodness' sake. and probably looks forward to
his retirement. He will win. There's no doubt. And he will be content
to sit on the back benches as a warning to Cameron. There are many,
many precedents.

> What if the 
>people of his constituency donn't bother to give him the massive 
>'independent' vote he seeks?

They will.

> He'll ring pretty hollow in such a case the 
>so-called 'massive support' will be seen as media clap trap.

You sound like you want him to lose. That no one should stand up for
principles. That he is doing politics a disservice. You sound like the
Westminster Village.

>> Can it be possible, he will be thinking, that in modern Britain people
>> still care about old fashioned virtues such as: Honesty, integrity,
>> patriotism and courage.
>
>Of course they do and long may they reign but is he really exemplifying 
>those values?

Obviously! Hear the cacophony against him. There's your evidence. The
hacks don't understand principle, can't comprehend it. They only
understand typical political machinations that the general public is
heartily fed up and sick to death with. That's why the pundits are so
out of touch with their readers and listeners. It's going to be an
eye-opener for them.

MM

MM wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:28:55 +0200, "John of Aix"
>  wrote:
>
>> If the Labour party puts up a candidate they'll be utter fools. Let
>> Davis fight against the offcila loonies and a loony from The Sun, a
>> situation which any good spin doctor on the Labour side should be
>> able to turn into a farce.
>
> How could Labour turn it into a farce if they have created an even
> bigger one by not standing?

Because Davis would be standing against nonsensical candidates and would 
end up tilting at windmills. He can't argue with himself, or at least he 
can but it won't have great effect.

> Basically, without a candidate, and if
> Kelvin does decide to stand (looking doubtful at the moment), Labour
> would effectively be the official silent partner of Rupert Murdoch and
> 420 days (that's the number that Kelvin thought of).

So what? He'd be thrown out at the next election and his party of one 
would have no influence whatsoever in Parliament. Standing against the 
Sun would be grist to its mill whereas it should simply be treated with 
the contempt it deserves.

MM wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:23:27 +0200, "John of Aix"
>  wrote:
>
>> incognito wrote:
>>> As resounding approval for David Davis begins to reverberate around
>>> the country Brown will begin biting his nails to the quick. He will
>>> shiver in his yellow skin whilst he contemplates the awful thought
>>> that David Davis may have hit a chord with the public.
>>
>> David Davis has hit a chord with the public but what will really
>> happen in the end? It might start a national debate, it should do so
>> in fact, but for him personally he could end up with jam on his face.
>
> He has said, more than once, that he doesn't care for his personal
> position. He's 58, for goodness' sake. and probably looks forward to
> his retirement. He will win. There's no doubt. And he will be content
> to sit on the back benches as a warning to Cameron. There are many,
> many precedents.

Plenty of precedents for 'stands' yes, but their subsequent influence
has usually been pretty minimal. I can't think of any one that has
fundamentally changed things.

>> What if the
>> people of his constituency donn't bother to give him the massive
>> 'independent' vote he seeks?
>
> They will.

That is an opinion not a fact. We'll see.

>> He'll ring pretty hollow in such a case the
>> so-called 'massive support' will be seen as media clap trap.
>
> You sound like you want him to lose. That no one should stand up for
> principles. That he is doing politics a disservice. You sound like the
> Westminster Village.

He can't possibly lose and I am glad that he is standing up for his
principles, as should everyone, but I fear that this is a futile
exercise.

>>> Can it be possible, he will be thinking, that in modern Britain
>>> people still care about old fashioned virtues such as: Honesty,
>>> integrity, patriotism and courage.
>>
>> Of course they do and long may they reign but is he really
>> exemplifying those values?
>
> Obviously! Hear the cacophony against him. There's your evidence. The
> hacks don't understand principle, can't comprehend it. They only
> understand typical political machinations that the general public is
> heartily fed up and sick to death with. That's why the pundits are so
> out of touch with their readers and listeners. It's going to be an
> eye-opener for them.

It seems to me that criticism has not been of his stand so much as the
method he has chosen to make it and its potential usefulness.