Brown, his bully boys and the rest of the  sycophantic  rabble that
represent Labour in our parliament (it is our parliament remember) may
be scoffing and jeering at David Davis now;  let us wait and see
though!

I think Mr Davis may just strike a chord and turn himself into the
peoples champion. We are totally sick of parliamentary dishonesty,
MP’s expense fiddling and patronisation…………….Patronisation from a
bunch of  over paid and arrogant lawyer types who think that the
electorate is one giant milch cow that they can deceive and “milk” as
much as they please.

So all of you out there who are fed up to the teeth with the elite
chattering classes treating us as if we cannot do anything to stop The
Lib/Lab/Con Party from controlling our every thought and action now
have an opportunity to show them.

David Davis may turn the meaning of PC on its head. “Arise Peoples
Champion David” and get at them.

Officials in Brussels are working on plans to ensure that the
European Treaty is still implemented elsewhere if Ireland votes
against it in the referendum.

Although measures such as creating an EU president, “foreign minister”
and European diplomatic service may be delayed, they are still
expected to be introduced.

One diplomat said a “bridging mechanism” was being discussed. If
Ireland rejects the treaty, it may simply be removed from the list of
signatories and will not be legally obliged to abide by it.

By late 2009 or early 2010, when Croatia joins the EU, an amending
“Accession Treaty” will be signed by all members including Dublin.

Incorporated into it would be a series of protocol texts giving paper
“opt-outs” on controversial Irish EU issues, such as taxation powers
or greater military co-operation.

Such texts would be similar to Britain’s existing protocol opt-outs on
the Charter of Fundamental Rights and social issues in the Lisbon
Treaty text being ratified in Westminster.

Ireland, like the rest of the Europe, does not hold referendums on EU
enlargement treaties and with new protocol opt-outs Dublin may get a
new Accession Treaty past the Irish parliament without a popular vote.

“This mechanism would be no more incomprehensible or legalistic than
the Treaty itself,” said one official.

“It is probably no more difficult than the legal footwork necessary to
turn the Constitutional Treaty into [the] Lisbon [Treaty] after the
French and Dutch rejected it. The issue will be timing.”

In recent weeks, Irish officials have held secret talks to implement
the Lisbon Treaty regardless of any referendum on the text.

During talks to create an EU diplomatic corps on May 7 and May 13,
Irish diplomats presented a position on the composition of the
European External Action Service and role of the EU’s new “foreign
minister”.

Secret minutes seen by The Daily Telegraph show that Ireland’s EU
ambassador, Bobby McDonagh, pleaded with his colleagues to keep the
talks and Dublin’s position confidential. “[We] have to remain
cautious in presenting these issues [referendum]!,” the minutes
record.

The House of Lords rejected a Conservative bid to force a British
referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, with Liberal Democrat peers siding
with the Government to defeat the move by 280 votes to 218.

http://news.ronatvan.com/2008/06/14/zionist-eu-plan-to-get-around-irish-no-vote/

NO to the sovietization of Europe. What is Sovietization? ONE NATION
UNDER JEWS.

The ruling class of Russia AFTER the so-called "People's" revolution:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and.in.the.USSR/index.htm#_Toc185714883

No to foreign rule. Hang the EU conspirators! NO to ZOG. NO to the New
World Order!

"St Georges Day April 23rd"  wrote in 
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> The ruling class of Russia AFTER the so-called "People's" revolution:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and.in.the.USSR/index.htm#_Toc185714883

Let's take a closer look at one of these anti-Semitic posts for a change. 
The link leads to a survey of 'the ruling class of Russia' that tries to 
prove that almost everybody was a Jew. We'll pick just one random example: 
the Soviet ambassador to Sweden. The list claims that A.M. Kallantoi [sic] 
was a Jew.

In reality Aleksandra Mikhailovna Kollontai (neé Domontovich) was the 
daughter of a Finnish mother and a Russian general (Mikhail Alekseyevich 
Domontovich), neither of whom were Jewish. She was married to her second 
cousin, Vladimir Kollontai of Polish nobility, for a while. This family name 
is originally Lithuanian.

A.M. Kollontai was the world's first female ambassador. She sympathized with 
Finland and helped pave the road to armistice negotatiations between Finland 
and the USSR in 1944.

"J. Anderson"  wrote in message 
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>
> "St Georges Day April 23rd"  wrote in 
> message 
> news:cde5ce84-59ec-4161-9688-4dba8b243939@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>> The ruling class of Russia AFTER the so-called "People's" revolution:
> http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and.in.the.USSR/index.htm#_Toc185714883
>
> Let's take a closer look at one of these anti-Semitic posts for a change. 
> The link leads to a survey of 'the ruling class of Russia' that tries to 
> prove that almost everybody was a Jew. We'll pick just one random example: 
> the Soviet ambassador to Sweden. The list claims that A.M. Kallantoi [sic] 
> was a Jew.
>
> In reality Aleksandra Mikhailovna Kollontai (neé Domontovich) was the 
> daughter of a Finnish mother and a Russian general (Mikhail Alekseyevich 
> Domontovich), neither of whom were Jewish. She was married to her second 
> cousin, Vladimir Kollontai of Polish nobility, for a while. This family 
> name is originally Lithuanian.
>
> A.M. Kollontai was the world's first female ambassador. She sympathized 
> with Finland and helped pave the road to armistice negotatiations between 
> Finland and the USSR in 1944.
>
>
>
Have you ever heard the word Tolsky?
It's not the word Jew that claws many people but the word zionist.
During the first half of the 20th century there were many cells of zionist 
terrorists.

"J. Anderson"  wrote in message 
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>
> "St Georges Day April 23rd"  wrote in 
> message 
> news:cde5ce84-59ec-4161-9688-4dba8b243939@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>> The ruling class of Russia AFTER the so-called "People's" revolution:
> http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and.in.the.USSR/index.htm#_Toc185714883
>
> Let's take a closer look at one of these anti-Semitic posts for a change. 
> The link leads to a survey of 'the ruling class of Russia' that tries to 
> prove that almost everybody was a Jew.

Let's start with Sverdlov, the executioner of the Czar and his young family, 
and tell me which one  of the murdering Commissars WAS NOT A JEW, right up 
to Beria!

"geno4321"  wrote in message 
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> "J. Anderson"  wrote in message 
> news:gNV4k.18046$_03.14163@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
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>> "St Georges Day April 23rd"  wrote in 
>> message 
>> news:cde5ce84-59ec-4161-9688-4dba8b243939@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> The ruling class of Russia AFTER the so-called "People's" revolution:
>> http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and.in.the.USSR/index.htm#_Toc185714883
>>
>> Let's take a closer look at one of these anti-Semitic posts for a change. 
>> The link leads to a survey of 'the ruling class of Russia' that tries to 
>> prove that almost everybody was a Jew. We'll pick just one random 
>> example: the Soviet ambassador to Sweden. The list claims that A.M. 
>> Kallantoi [sic] was a Jew.
>>
>> In reality Aleksandra Mikhailovna Kollontai (neé Domontovich) was the 
>> daughter of a Finnish mother and a Russian general (Mikhail Alekseyevich 
>> Domontovich), neither of whom were Jewish. She was married to her second 
>> cousin, Vladimir Kollontai of Polish nobility, for a while. This family 
>> name is originally Lithuanian.
>>
>> A.M. Kollontai was the world's first female ambassador. She sympathized 
>> with Finland and helped pave the road to armistice negotatiations between 
>> Finland and the USSR in 1944.
>>
>>
>>
> Have you ever heard the word Tolsky?
> It's not the word Jew that claws many people but the word zionist.
> During the first half of the 20th century there were many cells of zionist 
> terrorists.

You probably mean Trotsky! His real Jew name was Bernsten, and he was as 
Jewish as they come!

"ElParedon"  wrote in message 
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> "J. Anderson"  wrote in message 
> news:gNV4k.18046$_03.14163@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
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>> "St Georges Day April 23rd"  wrote in 
>> message 
>> news:cde5ce84-59ec-4161-9688-4dba8b243939@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> The ruling class of Russia AFTER the so-called "People's" revolution:
>> http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and.in.the.USSR/index.htm#_Toc185714883
>>
>> Let's take a closer look at one of these anti-Semitic posts for a change. 
>> The link leads to a survey of 'the ruling class of Russia' that tries to 
>> prove that almost everybody was a Jew.
>
> Let's start with Sverdlov, the executioner of the Czar and his young 
> family, and tell me which one  of the murdering Commissars WAS NOT A JEW, 
> right up to Beria!

Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beriya was from Georgia. He was born in Merheuli, in 
what is today Abkhazia, and he was a Mingreli by extraction.

"J. Anderson"  wrote in message 
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> "ElParedon"  wrote in message 
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>> "J. Anderson"  wrote in message 
>> news:gNV4k.18046$_03.14163@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
>>>
>>> "St Georges Day April 23rd"  wrote in 
>>> message 
>>> news:cde5ce84-59ec-4161-9688-4dba8b243939@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> The ruling class of Russia AFTER the so-called "People's" revolution:
>>> http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and.in.the.USSR/index.htm#_Toc185714883
>>>
>>> Let's take a closer look at one of these anti-Semitic posts for a 
>>> change. The link leads to a survey of 'the ruling class of Russia' that 
>>> tries to prove that almost everybody was a Jew.
>>
>> Let's start with Sverdlov, the executioner of the Czar and his young 
>> family, and tell me which one  of the murdering Commissars WAS NOT A JEW, 
>> right up to Beria!
>
> Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beriya was from Georgia. He was born in Merheuli, in 
> what is today Abkhazia, and he was a Mingreli by extraction.
I did say "to Beria"

J. Anderson wrote:
> "ElParedon"  wrote in message 
> news:E015k.7050$s77.5326@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> "J. Anderson"  wrote in message 
>> news:gNV4k.18046$_03.14163@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
>>> "St Georges Day April 23rd"  wrote in 
>>> message 
>>> news:cde5ce84-59ec-4161-9688-4dba8b243939@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> The ruling class of Russia AFTER the so-called "People's" revolution:
>>> http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and.in.the.USSR/index.htm#_Toc185714883
>>>
>>> Let's take a closer look at one of these anti-Semitic posts for a change. 
>>> The link leads to a survey of 'the ruling class of Russia' that tries to 
>>> prove that almost everybody was a Jew.
>> Let's start with Sverdlov, the executioner of the Czar and his young 
>> family, and tell me which one  of the murdering Commissars WAS NOT A JEW, 
>> right up to Beria!
> 
> Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beriya was from Georgia. He was born in Merheuli, in 
> what is today Abkhazia, and he was a Mingreli by extraction. 
> 
Place of birth and even ethnicity do not address cultural identity nor
religious identity.
What was Berias' cultural and religious background/ancestry?
Did his parents consider themselves to be Russians or Mingrli and Orthodox
Christian or Jewish or Muslim? E.g. Is there any record of their marriage
and of his birth, Christening or presentation at the temple and bris (?).
If not his parents what about relatives?
-- 
Rostyk

"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj"  wrote in message 
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> J. Anderson wrote:
>> "ElParedon"  wrote in message 
>> news:E015k.7050$s77.5326@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>> "J. Anderson"  wrote in message 
>>> news:gNV4k.18046$_03.14163@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
>>>> "St Georges Day April 23rd"  wrote in 
>>>> message 
>>>> news:cde5ce84-59ec-4161-9688-4dba8b243939@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>> The ruling class of Russia AFTER the so-called "People's" revolution:
>>>> http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and.in.the.USSR/index.htm#_Toc185714883
>>>>
>>>> Let's take a closer look at one of these anti-Semitic posts for a 
>>>> change. The link leads to a survey of 'the ruling class of Russia' that 
>>>> tries to prove that almost everybody was a Jew.
>>> Let's start with Sverdlov, the executioner of the Czar and his young 
>>> family, and tell me which one  of the murdering Commissars WAS NOT A 
>>> JEW, right up to Beria!
>>
>> Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beriya was from Georgia. He was born in Merheuli, in 
>> what is today Abkhazia, and he was a Mingreli by extraction.
> Place of birth and even ethnicity do not address cultural identity nor
> religious identity.
> What was Berias' cultural and religious background/ancestry?
> Did his parents consider themselves to be Russians or Mingrli and Orthodox
> Christian or Jewish or Muslim? E.g. Is there any record of their marriage
> and of his birth, Christening or presentation at the temple and bris (?).
> If not his parents what about relatives?

Et tu quoque, Rostyk! Why is it so important to turn Beriya into a Jew? He 
was an evil man, and that is hardly something that can be explained through 
birth certificates or marriage records.

On Jun 14, 1:23 pm, "J. Anderson"  wrote:
> "St Georges Day April 23rd"  wrote in
> messagenews:cde5ce84-59ec-4161-9688-4dba8b243939@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > The ruling class of Russia AFTER the so-called "People's" revolution:
>
> http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and....
>
> Let's take a closer look at one of these anti-Semitic posts for a change.
> The link leads to a survey of 'the ruling class of Russia' that tries to
> prove that almost everybody was a Jew. We'll pick just one random example:> the Soviet ambassador to Sweden. The list claims that A.M. Kallantoi [sic]> was a Jew.
>
> In reality Aleksandra Mikhailovna Kollontai (neé Domontovich) was the
> daughter of a Finnish mother and a Russian general (Mikhail Alekseyevich
> Domontovich), neither of whom were Jewish. She was married to her second
> cousin, Vladimir Kollontai of Polish nobility, for a while. This family name
> is originally Lithuanian.
>
> A.M. Kollontai was the world's first female ambassador. She sympathized with
> Finland and helped pave the road to armistice negotatiations between Finland
> and the USSR in 1944.
>

John, don't waste your time on these wackos. They are incurable and
are poised to gobble up SCB the way they have devoured SCR.

On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:44:36 -0400, "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj"
 wrote:

>J. Anderson wrote:
>> "ElParedon"  wrote in message 
>> news:E015k.7050$s77.5326@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>> "J. Anderson"  wrote in message 
>>> news:gNV4k.18046$_03.14163@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
>>>> "St Georges Day April 23rd"  wrote in 
>>>> message 
>>>> news:cde5ce84-59ec-4161-9688-4dba8b243939@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>> The ruling class of Russia AFTER the so-called "People's" revolution:
>>>> http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and.in.the.USSR/index.htm#_Toc185714883
>>>>
>>>> Let's take a closer look at one of these anti-Semitic posts for a change. 
>>>> The link leads to a survey of 'the ruling class of Russia' that tries to 
>>>> prove that almost everybody was a Jew.
>>> Let's start with Sverdlov, the executioner of the Czar and his young 
>>> family, and tell me which one  of the murdering Commissars WAS NOT A JEW, 
>>> right up to Beria!
>> 
>> Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beriya was from Georgia. He was born in Merheuli, in 
>> what is today Abkhazia, and he was a Mingreli by extraction. 
>> 
>Place of birth and even ethnicity do not address cultural identity nor
>religious identity.
>What was Berias' cultural and religious background/ancestry?
>Did his parents consider themselves to be Russians or Mingrli and Orthodox
>Christian or Jewish or Muslim? E.g. Is there any record of their marriage
>and of his birth, Christening or presentation at the temple and bris (?).
>If not his parents what about relatives?

You'd be better off asking the devil.

Maris

J. Anderson wrote:
> "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj"  wrote in message 
> news:Glz5k.6410$AJ6.5380@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>> J. Anderson wrote:
>>> "ElParedon"  wrote in message 
>>> news:E015k.7050$s77.5326@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>> "J. Anderson"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:gNV4k.18046$_03.14163@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
>>>>> "St Georges Day April 23rd"  wrote in 
>>>>> message 
>>>>> news:cde5ce84-59ec-4161-9688-4dba8b243939@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> The ruling class of Russia AFTER the so-called "People's" revolution:
>>>>> http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and.in.the.USSR/index.htm#_Toc185714883
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's take a closer look at one of these anti-Semitic posts for a 
>>>>> change. The link leads to a survey of 'the ruling class of Russia' that 
>>>>> tries to prove that almost everybody was a Jew.
>>>> Let's start with Sverdlov, the executioner of the Czar and his young 
>>>> family, and tell me which one  of the murdering Commissars WAS NOT A 
>>>> JEW, right up to Beria!
>>> Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beriya was from Georgia. He was born in Merheuli, in 
>>> what is today Abkhazia, and he was a Mingreli by extraction.
>> Place of birth and even ethnicity do not address cultural identity nor
>> religious identity.
>> What was Berias' cultural and religious background/ancestry?
>> Did his parents consider themselves to be Russians or Mingrli and Orthodox
>> Christian or Jewish or Muslim? E.g. Is there any record of their marriage
>> and of his birth, Christening or presentation at the temple and bris (?).
>> If not his parents what about relatives?
> 
> Et tu quoque, Rostyk! Why is it so important to turn Beriya into a Jew? He 
> was an evil man, and that is hardly something that can be explained through 
> birth certificates or marriage records.
>  
Neither is it important to conceal his backgound! Why not try to reveal the
whole truth. Nothing that I wrote implied that he was from a Jewish background.
If there is evidence that he was from a goyim background then let's drag
it out and display it. Wouldn't that dispel the insinuations?
As for being evil. He was one of many, in good company. No one, _I_hope_,
is trying to contradict that.
-- 
Rostyk

J. Anderson wrote:
> "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj"  wrote in message 
> news:Glz5k.6410$AJ6.5380@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>> J. Anderson wrote:
>>> "ElParedon"  wrote in message 
>>> news:E015k.7050$s77.5326@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>> "J. Anderson"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:gNV4k.18046$_03.14163@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
>>>>> "St Georges Day April 23rd"  wrote in 
>>>>> message 
>>>>> news:cde5ce84-59ec-4161-9688-4dba8b243939@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> The ruling class of Russia AFTER the so-called "People's" revolution:
>>>>> http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and.in.the.USSR/index.htm#_Toc185714883
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's take a closer look at one of these anti-Semitic posts for a 
>>>>> change. The link leads to a survey of 'the ruling class of Russia' that 
>>>>> tries to prove that almost everybody was a Jew.
>>>> Let's start with Sverdlov, the executioner of the Czar and his young 
>>>> family, and tell me which one  of the murdering Commissars WAS NOT A 
>>>> JEW, right up to Beria!
>>> Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beriya was from Georgia. He was born in Merheuli, in 
>>> what is today Abkhazia, and he was a Mingreli by extraction.
>> Place of birth and even ethnicity do not address cultural identity nor
>> religious identity.
>> What was Berias' cultural and religious background/ancestry?
>> Did his parents consider themselves to be Russians or Mingrli and Orthodox
>> Christian or Jewish or Muslim? E.g. Is there any record of their marriage
>> and of his birth, Christening or presentation at the temple and bris (?).
>> If not his parents what about relatives?
> 
> Et tu quoque, Rostyk! Why is it so important to turn Beriya into a Jew? He 
> was an evil man, and that is hardly something that can be explained through 
> birth certificates or marriage records.
>  
Neither is it important to conceal his backgound! Why not try to reveal the
whole truth. Nothing that I wrote implied that he was from a Jewish background.
If there is evidence that he was from a goyim background then let's drag
it out and display it. Wouldn't that dispel the insinuations?
As for being evil. He was one of many, in good company. No one, _I_hope_,
is trying to contradict that.
-- 
Rostyk

On Jun 17, 3:48 am, ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 14, 1:23 pm, "J. Anderson"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "St Georges Day April 23rd"  wrote in
> > messagenews:cde5ce84-59ec-4161-9688-4dba8b243939@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > The ruling class of Russia AFTER the so-called "People's" revolution:
>
> >http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and....
>
> > Let's take a closer look at one of these anti-Semitic posts for a change.
> > The link leads to a survey of 'the ruling class of Russia' that tries to
> > prove that almost everybody was a Jew. We'll pick just one random example:
> > the Soviet ambassador to Sweden. The list claims that A.M. Kallantoi [sic]
> > was a Jew.
>
> > In reality Aleksandra Mikhailovna Kollontai (neé Domontovich) was the
> > daughter of a Finnish mother and a Russian general (Mikhail Alekseyevich
> > Domontovich), neither of whom were Jewish. She was married to her second
> > cousin, Vladimir Kollontai of Polish nobility, for a while. This family name
> > is originally Lithuanian.
>
> > A.M. Kollontai was the world's first female ambassador. She sympathized with
> > Finland and helped pave the road to armistice negotatiations between Finland
> > and the USSR in 1944.
>
> John, don't waste your time on these wackos. They are incurable and
> are poised to gobble up SCB the way they have devoured SCR.- Hide quoted text -

And soc.culture.ukrainian before it...

regards,

BM