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date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:16:35 GMT,    group: uk.politics.parliament        back       
Galloway: Inexorable march toward war with Iran?   
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Galloway: Inexorable march toward war with Iran?

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McClatchy - Oct 31, 2007
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/v-print/story/21002.html

Commentary: 


Inexorable march toward war with Iran?

by Joseph L. Galloway

There were some things far more frightening this week than Halloween's
small ghouls and goblins  and the scariest of all is the Bush
administration's seemingly inexorable march toward military
confrontation with Iran.

What ARE they smoking back there at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue? The very
idea is dumb as a fencepost and best left to the biggest pied piper of
what passes for neo-conservative thought, Norman Podhoretz. Yet both
President George W. Bush and his able assistant, Vice President Darth
Cheney, are marching to that tune and humming along lustily.

There is no crisis here, and no earthly reason to manufacture one on
short notice, except for the fact that in under 15 months the Bush
administration will pass ignominiously into history. Then a new chief
executive can begin dealing with two ongoing wars in Afghanistan and
Iraq, a national debt nearing $10 trillion, a terrorist threat to
America only made stronger by eight years of Bush and Cheney, and a
national economy trembling on the brink of recession.

As though that weren't a big enough mess to leave behind, like so much
trash in an abandoned trailer home, these brilliant thinkers want to
bequeath a third and far more dangerous war to whoever is unlucky enough
to win the ongoing tussle of midgets that passes for a presidential
contest.

There are two questions here: Why? And, why now?

Yes, the centrifuges are whirling away in Iran's deeply buried and
widely dispersed nuclear facilities, enriching uranium that can be used
to power electric generation plants and, it's true, can also be used to
build nuclear weapons.

But most analysts say that even if Iran's ultimate ambition is to build
a nuclear weapon, it will take them another five or six years before
they get there. Some say even longer.

How about we take a deep breath and  once we have an administration in
power that believes that it is far better to talk, talk, talk than it is
to war, war, war  negotiate with Iran without all those preconditions so
beloved by Bush and Cheney.

How about we do all we can to support the International Atomic Energy
Agency and its goal of inspecting facilities like those in Iran to
ensure that the product is used only for peaceful purposes.

If none of that works, we can count on one final fallback position: If
and when Iran and its illustrious leader, Ahmad Uglydinnerjacket, get
within reach of building a nuke, Israel will take out crucial parts of
that system.

All of this argues against Bush and Cheney doing anything more than
running their mouths and pretending to still be relevant, studly and in
charge as they stumble blindly toward the finish line and history's
harsh judgment.

The more thoughtful military and civilian advisers can rattle off a
dozen reasons why an American attack on Iran at this juncture would be
foolish in the extreme and risk setting the Middle East afire.

Just some of those reasons would include:

 Shutting down not only Iran's oil production but Iraq's as well, and
possibly triggering Iranian retaliation against the oil production and
shipping in other nations around the Persian Gulf. Are we ready for
$300 a barrel oil?

 Putting 160,000 American troops and another 125,000 American and
foreign contractors in Iraq at much greater risk, as neighboring Iran
signals Shiite allies there to begin all-out war against us and sends
in its own well-armed guerrillas to lead the attack. Our 250-mile main
supply lines in Iraq run through the heart of Shiite-controlled
southern Iraq, and they would be cut. If we think we have troubles now
with the shaky Iraq national government in Baghdad, which has already
snuggled up to Tehran, what would war with Iran bring?

 Risking confrontation with the newly oil-rich and energized Russian
Federation and President Bush's ex-KGB soul-mate Vladimir Putin. Since
Putin has his hand on the natural gas and oil pipelines that keep our
presumed allies in Europe from freezing to death, it is wise to assume
that any support for an American attack on his ally Iran would be slim
to none.

 Assuming that any U.S. air war against Iran would not be enough by
itself  and such air campaigns seldom are definitive in modern history 
where would we find the ground forces capable of doing the really hard
part? Our Army and Marine Corps are stretched to the breaking point
maintaining the force level in Iraq and Afghanistan. We have no
strategic reserves available to help secure our allies in the Persian
Gulf, much less to mount any offensive inside Iran.

When you add it all up, you have your answer: No one in their right mind
would believe that attacking Iran now makes any sense at all.

But that doesn't mean that Bush and Cheney won't do it.

There were a lot of reasons why a pre-emptive strike into Iraq based on
flimsy and bogus intelligence and far too few troops made no sense, yet
they did it anyway, with trademark arrogance and ignorance.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

(c) McClatchy Newspapers 2007

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date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:16:35 GMT   author:   unknown

Re: Galloway: Inexorable march toward war with Iran?   
On 3 Nov, 08:16, NY.Transfer.N...@blythe.org wrote:
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> Galloway: Inexorable march toward war with Iran?
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> Via NY Transfer News Collective  *  All the News that Doesn't Fit
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> McClatchy - Oct 31, 2007http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/v-print/story/21002.html
>
> Commentary:
>
> Inexorable march toward war with Iran?
>
> by Joseph L. Galloway
>
> There were some things far more frightening this week than Halloween's
> small ghouls and goblins  and the scariest of all is the Bush
> administration's seemingly inexorable march toward military
> confrontation with Iran.
>
> What ARE they smoking back there at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?

Who knows, but for some reason they are determined to provoke a global
civil war between religions which will probably go nuclear and will
certainly result in the collapse in western civilisation as we know
it.

Most economies could not sustain a panic of the proportions that a
large scale conflict would trigger, and the US certainly could not
cope with a call to all supporters of Islam to turn suicide bomber in
any country that was seen to support a military attack on Iran.

Whether you like it or not, every inch of US soil would become a
target and no amount of security bullies at airports would be able to
prevent the suicide bombers from reaching their targets.

Still, our 'rulers' have had their orders and seem determined to carry
them out whatever the rest of us think.

Be very afraid indeed.
date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:12:21 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Galloway: Inexorable march toward war with Iran?   
"every inch of US soil would become a target"

Yes, that's right.

Not only every inch of US soil,  but EVERY  inch of  EVERY   US
citizen  EVERYWHERE around the World.

THEY would become a target.
 EASILY hit.
They could be Knifed up down a dark ally.
Shot in the gut.
Or An axe, slammed into their upper back walking down any main high
street, in braud daylight.

Why on Earth the Iraqies around the World have not done this already
after the brutilisation they have endured,
and still do, can only be explained to be that:

Arabs at heart are SHITBAGS.
Arabs at heart are SHITBAGS.
Arabs at heart are SHITBAGS.

Bred to be servile to and by their religion.

Mostly mouthing loud noises, and banging about.
They really cant get their 'Shit' together.

All it would take to get the yanks OUT of Iraq.
Would be the RANDOM killing of US citizens around the World.
Here there and everywhere in great numbers.

All it would take to get the yanks OUT of Iraq.
Would be the RANDOM killing of US citizens around the World.
Here there and everywhere in great numbers.

All it would take to get the yanks OUT of Iraq.
Would be the RANDOM killing of US citizens around the World.
Here there and everywhere in great numbers.



Not confined to headline grabbing 'Bombings'.
Just the 'Cut and thrust' of street murderings.
Just like in the 'good old USA'.

Getting the yanks OUT of the rest of the World.
And  'Confining'  THEM.

As they so like to do to other 'Put upon' countries.
Confining the yanks to their own shithole Country.

ONLY then.
Will the US citizens REALISE.
ONLY then will it actually SINK IN TO THEIR OWN THICK HEADS.
That THEY are the most hated people of the World.
That THEY are doing something WRONG.

THAT is at the heart of the matter.
RIGHT and WRONG.

The GERMANS for instance.
I have noticed on my travels do NOT at all have a sence of RIGHT and
WRONG.

It has been BRED  out of them over the years.
Anything less than exterminating millions of minority group people
AGAIN,
will ever awaken a sence of RIGHT and WRONG in them.


The BRITISH, they have a great sence of RIGHT and WRONG.
Well refined in RIGHT and WRONG.
But when it suits them, they care to override that sence of WRONGNESS.
Either beleiving a greater RIGHT will come out of it.
Or due to circumstance they have no better choice in the matter.


The yanks on the otherhand.
Self BRAINWASHED with the yank mantra of  'RIGHT is MIGHT'
Consider themselves allmighty .
And therefore ALWAYS in the RIGHT.

They consider themselves to be doing RIGHT.
'Fight against terrorism' is a secondary mantra spread around and
commonly
 held in the yanks tiny little brains.
They have an inbred 'Superhero' mentality in all things they do.
>From The 'Superhero'  yank cavalrymen of yesteryear, rushing, bugals
blairing to the aid of their beleagered chums,
on the end of a suprise attack from those nasty 'in the way' red
skinned native americans.

Up to, their current  brave HERO, US military service people, carrying
the banner of DEMOCRACY to all these
'Terrorist' countries.

WHATEVER they do, the dumb fuck US citizen allways believe they are
doing    RIGHT.

They mix up what is RIGHT with what is to their ADVANTAGE.
Being the MORALLY CORRUPT BASTARDS THAT THEY ARE.

Morally Corrupt.
WHICH IS ONE HALF THE CRITERIA OF EVIL.

They are ALL out to do what is to their ADVANTAGE.
It is everything that they are.

Self Interest ....... Self Satisfaction.


The self satisfying little kid with the big gun on the block.
Who had themselves 'Pistol whipped' a little while back.
Didn't particularly liked that.
Shook them up quite a bit.
Disturbed them quite a lot.
Now, they are happy enough, being the trigger happy bastards that they
are
to shoot the place up a bit.
Like they like to.
Just like in the 'Old Western's'.
Shoot up the saloon a bit, just to let people know who's boss in town.

Fighting their new 'Moby Dick' ....   the Muslims.

Having defeated their age old 'Moby Dick'  Communism.
(Or at least they think they have.....  It has just gone under the
waves, to reserfice at a later date.)

SO there you have it,  another anti yank rant with solutions to the
ever growing fascist dictatory regime OF the yanks.

Sticking it to them.  'Done in the dark where the Tipewriter fits'.
As they are to us.
We may not be on the end of a military campain as some people of the
rest of the World are.
But we are certainly on the end of a campain of political restraints
of our freedoms, (all in the name of 'security').
Passed allong by our local political 'middlemen' puppet governments.

All on the behest of the yanks.
That is where it is coming from.
Be sure of that.

WHAT WILL THE IRANIANS DO IF ATTACKED BY THE yanks and jews???
If they ever are attacked.
Maybe their inbred arab SHITBAGISM will curtail any damage to the yank
monsters.
Though if the arabs  were to hit the COMMON yank where it hurts them
the most.

IN THEIR WALLET!!!

That will be something to behold.
The selling of OIL in Euro's insted of US dollars would hurt them
quite a bit.
Especially if other countries followed suit.
And not specifically the SHITBAG arab ones either.

Of cause the yank can always get knifed up on the street corner.
Confining the FILTH to the United FILTH of America is another option.

To be used in conjunction  WITH the EURO - OIL REVOLUTION.

And see if they THEN gained a sence of RIGHT and WRONG.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And I do wish when people mention 'Galloway'.
If it is some yank arsehole 'Galloway' or such, that writes  material
for yank media outlets,
 and not the Scottish Dictator posing as a socialist  Galloway
arsehole, that we know of.

They put the other Galloways FULL name in the Original Posts header.
date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 05:11:45 -0700   author:   unknown

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