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date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:30:25 -0500,    group: uk.politics.misc        back       
Pro-Islam film to be released in response to 'Fitna'   
Pro-Islam film to be released in response to 'Fitna'
Jul. 23, 2008
The Media Line Staff , THE JERUSALEM POST

A short film titled Beyond Love will soon be released by the Iranian-based NGO Islam and 
Christianity (IC), in response to the anti-Islamic Dutch film Fitna, the Iranian news agency 
IRNA reported.

"The film aims to introduce the real Islam. It will be useful for those who want to get 
acquainted with Islam," said IC spokesman Muhammad Karimi.

Earlier this year, Dutch filmmaker Geert Wilders produced Fitna, which claimed to have explored 
Quranic motivations for terrorism. The film was condemned by many in the West, as well as in 
the Muslim world. Al-Qaeda even issued a religious decree against Wilders, while the Dutch 
government was quick to distance itself from the film.

While IC claims to be an independent organization, Radio Netherlands quoted an Iranian 
journalist a few months ago as saying that it was created by the government itself.

"It is an NGO of 'convenience'; it is absolutely clear that this is a government initiative," 
said Mina Sa'adi, a journalist working for the independent Farsi-language website Shahrzad News.

This article can also be read at http://www.jpost.com 
/servlet/Satellite?cid=1215331067112&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:30:25 -0500   author:   Ramabriga

Iranian Film Praises arselifting Killers of Nobel Prize Winner.   
Iranian Film Praising Sadat's Killers Irks Cairo

http://www.metimes.com/International/2008/07/24/iranian_film_praising_sadats_killers_irks_cairo/4341/

CAIRO – When it seemed that all was going smoothly on the Cairo-Tehran
diplomatic front and full diplomatic relations were not far off after
a near 30-year hiatus, out comes a movie in Iran praising the
assassins of late Egyptian President Anwar Sadat that throws both
governments into a bitter row.

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak summoned a senior Iranian diplomat in
Cairo to explain the reason for the film, titled "Assassination of a
Pharaoh" after it was shown on no less than Iranian national
television.

The movie, which praises the assassins, has embroiled Egyptian
sentiments which have long festered after Iran blatantly named a
street after Sadat's killer.

Tehran backed off then by ending its glorification of Sadat's killer,
who many in Iran see as a hero due to Sadat's peace deal with Israel.

The movie, however, has torn off the bandages of decades of old wounds
between the two nations.

Some think Iran will suffer from the renewed animosity more than
Egypt.

"It is obvious that this will definitely be worse for Iran, because
Iranians are the ones who mostly want to have political relations with
Egypt. This simply gives Egyptians another reason to hate Iranians,"
said Joseph Fahim, Egypt's Daily News arts and culture editor.

The countries have not had full diplomatic relations since the 1979
Islamic Revolution in Iran when Sadat hosted the deposed shah in Egypt
when Ayatollah Khomeini took power.

Egypt's parliament has even gotten into the fray, issuing a strong
condemnation to Iran over the movie.

"Iran's production of a film that insults the late Egyptian leader is
ridiculous behavior that harms the long history of relations between
Egypt and Iran," a statement from the parliament's Foreign Relations
Committee said.

The statement added that "glorifying the assassins of Sadat
contradicts" Islamic teaching and "violates all human ethics and
diplomatic norms."

Meanwhile, Egypt's leading Sunni institution, al-Azhar, slammed the
Iranian film as a heinous violation of Islamic rules and values. After
an emergency meeting, its Islamic Research Academy called for "burning
such a ridiculous film, which affronts all Egyptians."

The academy criticized what it described as a "hypocritical group" for
producing a film that insults Sadat and glorifies his assassins.

The academy cited Sadat's hosting of the former Iranian shah during
his illness and his subsequent visit to Israel in order to realize
peace "as proofs of Sadat's wisdom and bravery, not treachery as the
film claims."

Many Iranians view Sadat as a traitor for making peace with the Jewish
state in 1979. Egypt was the first Arab nation to sign a treaty with
Israel, and it likely cost the Egyptian president his life.

Despite so much diplomatic controversy over the film, the average
Egyptian is paying little attention to power politics.

An Egyptian man who runs a pirated film stand in Cairo boasting
hundreds of titles from around the globe, said he had not even heard
of the film.

"I don't know this film. Who made it?" he asked when approached for a
copy.

Fahim of the Daily News thinks that the controversy will remain within
the confines of diplomatic circles and is unlikely to spill over into
the larger population. He noted that the majority of coverage was in
the Western press, and Egypt's state-run newspapers that predictably
rehash the government line on the affairs of state.

"Culturally, I doubt it will affect average people on both sides. And
here in Egypt, even fewer will care about the film," Fahim said.

"Egyptian intellectuals will be able to understand that it is simply a
film, because we know and understand how many restrictions there are
in Iran," he said. "So, they will see it as an attempt by Tehran to
put forward sentiments and it shouldn't change how regular Egyptians
and Iranians interact."

Nevertheless, the movie reveals how far Cairo and Tehran must go
before they are able to have full diplomatic relations. Two nations
that for the past three decades have been traveling in opposite
directions once again find themselves entangled in a controversy that
has little to do with art and more with the political nature of each
nation.

Egyptians are a proud people, who condemn attacks on their leaders by
outside influences, but who, because of signing a peace treaty with
Israel, have had to come to terms with Muslim nations attacking their
history.
date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:39:18 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Sir John Howard

Re: Iranian Film Praises arselifting Killers of Nobel Prize Winner.   
Dirty mohammadans


"Sir John Howard"  wrote in message 
news:185dc1c6-cca5-4e92-b9e6-4bd9c00deb2e@a2g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
Iranian Film Praising Sadat's Killers Irks Cairo

http://www.metimes.com/International/2008/07/24/iranian_film_praising_sadats_killers_irks_cairo/4341/

CAIRO – When it seemed that all was going smoothly on the Cairo-Tehran
diplomatic front and full diplomatic relations were not far off after
a near 30-year hiatus, out comes a movie in Iran praising the
assassins of late Egyptian President Anwar Sadat that throws both
governments into a bitter row.

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak summoned a senior Iranian diplomat in
Cairo to explain the reason for the film, titled "Assassination of a
Pharaoh" after it was shown on no less than Iranian national
television.

The movie, which praises the assassins, has embroiled Egyptian
sentiments which have long festered after Iran blatantly named a
street after Sadat's killer.

Tehran backed off then by ending its glorification of Sadat's killer,
who many in Iran see as a hero due to Sadat's peace deal with Israel.

The movie, however, has torn off the bandages of decades of old wounds
between the two nations.

Some think Iran will suffer from the renewed animosity more than
Egypt.

"It is obvious that this will definitely be worse for Iran, because
Iranians are the ones who mostly want to have political relations with
Egypt. This simply gives Egyptians another reason to hate Iranians,"
said Joseph Fahim, Egypt's Daily News arts and culture editor.

The countries have not had full diplomatic relations since the 1979
Islamic Revolution in Iran when Sadat hosted the deposed shah in Egypt
when Ayatollah Khomeini took power.

Egypt's parliament has even gotten into the fray, issuing a strong
condemnation to Iran over the movie.

"Iran's production of a film that insults the late Egyptian leader is
ridiculous behavior that harms the long history of relations between
Egypt and Iran," a statement from the parliament's Foreign Relations
Committee said.

The statement added that "glorifying the assassins of Sadat
contradicts" Islamic teaching and "violates all human ethics and
diplomatic norms."

Meanwhile, Egypt's leading Sunni institution, al-Azhar, slammed the
Iranian film as a heinous violation of Islamic rules and values. After
an emergency meeting, its Islamic Research Academy called for "burning
such a ridiculous film, which affronts all Egyptians."

The academy criticized what it described as a "hypocritical group" for
producing a film that insults Sadat and glorifies his assassins.

The academy cited Sadat's hosting of the former Iranian shah during
his illness and his subsequent visit to Israel in order to realize
peace "as proofs of Sadat's wisdom and bravery, not treachery as the
film claims."

Many Iranians view Sadat as a traitor for making peace with the Jewish
state in 1979. Egypt was the first Arab nation to sign a treaty with
Israel, and it likely cost the Egyptian president his life.

Despite so much diplomatic controversy over the film, the average
Egyptian is paying little attention to power politics.

An Egyptian man who runs a pirated film stand in Cairo boasting
hundreds of titles from around the globe, said he had not even heard
of the film.

"I don't know this film. Who made it?" he asked when approached for a
copy.

Fahim of the Daily News thinks that the controversy will remain within
the confines of diplomatic circles and is unlikely to spill over into
the larger population. He noted that the majority of coverage was in
the Western press, and Egypt's state-run newspapers that predictably
rehash the government line on the affairs of state.

"Culturally, I doubt it will affect average people on both sides. And
here in Egypt, even fewer will care about the film," Fahim said.

"Egyptian intellectuals will be able to understand that it is simply a
film, because we know and understand how many restrictions there are
in Iran," he said. "So, they will see it as an attempt by Tehran to
put forward sentiments and it shouldn't change how regular Egyptians
and Iranians interact."

Nevertheless, the movie reveals how far Cairo and Tehran must go
before they are able to have full diplomatic relations. Two nations
that for the past three decades have been traveling in opposite
directions once again find themselves entangled in a controversy that
has little to do with art and more with the political nature of each
nation.

Egyptians are a proud people, who condemn attacks on their leaders by
outside influences, but who, because of signing a peace treaty with
Israel, have had to come to terms with Muslim nations attacking their
history.
date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:43:38 +0100   author:   Ramabriga

Re: Iranian Film Praises arselifting Killers of Nobel Prize Winner.   
Ramabriga  wrote: 
> Dirty mohammadans
> 
> 
Aussies are the biggest arselifters of all because homosexuality exists there 
in epidemic purportions and studies by the Hoover Institute show that over 
95% of Australian men fantasize about raising their arses and taking fat, 
juicy cock into their arseholes.   That's expected when you have an entire 
nation decended from British felons whose only sexual outlet for years was 
buttfucking and giving each other blow jobs.  In fact, that sums up the 
founders of Australia in one easy term.
date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:11:50 -0400   author:   Praetor

Re: Pro-Islam film to be released in response to 'Fitna'   
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:30:25 -0500, Ramabriga 
wrote:
>Pro-Islam film to be released in response to 'Fitna'
>Jul. 23, 2008
>"The film aims to introduce the real Islam.

 wrote in message
news:1182738167.739266.258910@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Islam is a wasting disease that infects feeble
communities and feeble minds. Its symptoms are
Arabization, corruption, violence, and backwardness.

To become a Muslim, you must take an Arab name, dress
like an Arab, speak Arabic, eat only what Arabs eat,
treat your wife as Arabs treat their wives, etc...
Such things as blue jeans are not really condemned
because they are immoral but because they are not Arab.
http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/quran.asp

Islam has the world’s record of genocide. Its victims,
over more than 1,350 years, number in the hundreds of
millions, many more than the victims of the Holocaust
and World Communism combined. Muslim genocide is still
ongoing in the Sudan, Ivory Cost. Mauritania, Somalia,
the Philippines, Indonesia, and, to a lesser extent
in other Muslim countries.
source: http://allaboutmuhammad.com/page15.html

Muslim families are baby-production factories. No
consideration is given about the child's future,
prospects and whether the parents can feed, shelter
and educate him/her. What is important is the mullah's
call to grow in numbers, so that the Ummah may
overcome the kaffirs.
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1259

The Muslim world does not accept non-Muslim immigrants.
In fact, it is becoming more homogenous as Islamic
regimes drive out religious minorities or whittle them
down through other means of attrition. Even Muslims who
feel entitled to life in the West often decry the
presence of foreigners in Muslim lands.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/homeland.php?id=1072859

I headed for Gracanica, a small enclave of Christian
Serbs who's ancestors have been living in Kosovo for
thousands of years. Gracanica Monastery has been the
site of Christian churches since the 6th century, yet
when I arrived I was struck by the towering concrete
walls adorned with coiled barbed wire and machine gun
nests, all required now for the protection of the nuns
and bishops who live there. The outside was also spotted
with vehicle blockers reminiscent of Normandy Beach,
with KFOR guards and vehicles patrolling to protect
the Christians from Islamist attacks. I visited with
the nuns in the monastery, who told me their stories,
how much they lived in fear of being murdered by radical
Muslims. My heart sank as I saw that even though their
families had been there for countless years, they knew
that their situation would never get better, and that
sometime in their lives they would either be murdered
or forced to leave. My mind shot back to Dearborn,
Michigan, and I found myself wondering if Christians
there would one day be forced to live like this.
http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/Emerging-Islamist-Terror-Hub-Kosovo-Bosnia.htm

Unfortunately, even the Westerners who perceive a danger
rarely grasp its full scope. Religious war simply does
not fit with their understanding of the world. While
they may be able to grasp the notion of Islamic
terrorism or “Islamofascism,” it is inconceivable that
Islam itself could be hostile. They assume, without
questioning, that all religions are basically the same,
and that all religions teach about peace and love.
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=756

There is no such thing as “radical Islam”, since by its
true definition Islam is nothing but radical. Those who
espouse a “liberal” view of Islam should be forced to
back up their nouveau interpretation with unabrogated
scriptural facts. Unless such would-be “reformists” can
categorically denounce Islamofascisim based on sound
evidence from the Qur’an, they prove to be the true
radicals... The terrorists are faithful and true to what
is written in the holy Qur’an. A Muslim is forbidden to
think critically about the Qur'an. He must blindly obey
it and accept it passively and should memorize all of it.
http://www.amilimani.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=71&Itemid=2

“The conversion of the entire population to Islam and the
extinction of every form of dissent is the ideal of the
Muslim State. If any infidel is suffered to exist in the
community, it is as a necessary evil, and for a transitional
period only. Political and social disabilities must be
imposed on him, and bribes offered to him from the public
funds, to hasten the day of his spiritual enlightenment
and the addition of his name to the roll of true believers.
A non-Muslim therefore cannot be a citizen of the State;
he is a member of a depressed class; his status is a
modified form of slavery. He lives under a contract
(zimma, or ‘dhimma’) with the State: for the life and
property grudgingly spared to him by the commander of the
faithful he must undergo political and social disabilities,
and pay a commutation money. In short, his continued
existence in the State after the conquest of his country
by the Muslims is conditional upon his person and property
made subservient to the cause of Islam.” Author: Bat Ye’or
http://globalpolitician.com/articleshow.asp?ID=2878&cid=3&sid=7

For the most part, Christianity has been purged from the
Middle East. While some countries have a small minority
of Christians, they are persecuted and tormented and in
many cases, they are not even allowed to be citizens of
the country of their birth because they are not Muslim.
In most Islamic countries, non-Muslims cannot own land and
their children are not allowed to attend the better schools.
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=254

Laughing is an unacceptable behavior in Islam and it’s
against Mohammad’ teachings.
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=742

Obsession (very good film about Islam):
(part 1, 39 minutes)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8662467646661149069
(part 2, 9 minutes)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2379593167878434106
(part 3, 9 minutes)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=923759196750871367
(part 4, 9 minutes)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3347862095172919551
(part 5, 9 minutes)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7134286674402163481

Must-see (or hear) Brigitte Gabriel's speech about Muslims (58
minutes):
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Events/ev092706a.cfm

WikiIslam: http://www.wikiislam.com

Interview with Brigitte Gabriel:
first half: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=20232
second half: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=20438

Beheading video of American civil engineer Eugene Armstrong:
short:
http://www.abrahamic-faith.com/audio/eugene-armstrong-beheading-video.wmv
long:
http://www.warriorsfortruth.com/VIDEO-BEHEADING-Eugene-Armstrong.WMV

Beheading video of Japanese tourist Shosei Koda:
http://www.masada2000.org/shosei-koda-beheading-video.wmv

Wafa Sultan speaks about Islam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wPglHZQf-0

Robert Spencer, Truth About Muhammad (piss be upon him, 64 min.):
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Events/ev111406a.cfm

Interview with Nonie Darwish about Islam:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=26094

Nonie Darwish, Now They Call Me Infidel:
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Events/ev111506a.cfm

Moderate Islam is destroying Western civilization:
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1355

Ali Sina's articles about Islam:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/2005/04/005810print.html
http://www.islam-watch.org/AliSina/index.html
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Author/Sina.htm

Undercover video reveals Muslim plans for the West:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peFQWuk4nuo

Statistical data about Islamization of Europe: Timothy
M. Savage, Europe and Islam: Crescent Waxing, Cultures
Clashing, The Washington Quarterly, Summer 2004.
http://www.twq.com/04summer/docs/04summer_savage.pdf

Statistical data about Islamic terrorism:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

The real Islam revealed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzQFyhFNUtE

Lynching in Islam:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/7.htm

Islamization of Europe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29i_y0dQg0Q

Islam around the world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz-bTNxpApU

Cleric Abu Abdullah on CNN:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1817039565075741443

Ex-Islamic terrorists speak out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZFYLAxfQ_I

Islam's war against Buddhism:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=27700

Palestinians celebrate 9/11 attack:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyaixXr6PvI

Reasons for decline of the Muslim world:
http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/07/05/02/10122223.html

The myth of Islamic tolerance:
http://kenlydell.typepad.com/islamic_evil/muslim_intolerance/index.html

Islam, Middle East and Fascism (long but excellent article by
Ibn Warraq): http://www.islam-watch.org/IbnWarraq/Fascism.htm

Who authored the Koran:
http://www.islam-watch.org/AbulKasem/WhoAuthoredQuran/who_authored_the_quran.htm

Islamic humor:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/comics/comics.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWT-C2VygBw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHZUaW8iuzE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhjnAVnY5ns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6SRGRshiSM
http://kenlydell.typepad.com/photos/cartoons/who_are_you_kidding.jpg
http://kenlydell.typepad.com/photos/cartoons/purity1.jpg
http://kenlydell.typepad.com/photos/cartoons/eurabia.jpg
http://kenlydell.typepad.com/photos/cartoons/safest.jpg

Frank Sinatra's song (Strangers On My Flight):
http://www.laughingatislam.com/imagessite/sinatra.mp3
Lyrics: http://www.laughingatislam.com/strangers.html

65.2% Muslims favor Caliphate, 65.5% Muslims favor strict
Sharia law in every Islamic country:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=28064

A recent study by the London-based Transparency International
found that Middle Eastern and North African nations form the
world’s most corrupt region.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2003/inter102003.htm

72 terrorist organizations with thousands of operatives
exist and operate within the borders of the United States.
These organizations include: Hezbollah, Hamas, Abu Sayyaf,
Islamic Jihad, al Fuqra, the Muslim Brotherhood and al Qaeda.
http://www.basicsproject.org/terrorism/terrorism.htm

France will pay Muslim immigrants to return home. Under the
scheme, Paris will provide each family with a nest egg of
€6,000 ($8,000) for when they go back to their country of
origin. A similar scheme, which was introduced in 2005 and
2006, was taken up by around 3,000 families.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,484716,00.html

MEMRI Compilation of Muslim opinions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JplfzQ9PkTg

Since 1945, the number of Muslims killed by other Muslims
outnumbers those killed by Israelis by a factor that far exceeds
100-1. http://www.nysun.com/pf.php?id=55137&v=9335610811

According to Koran Sun goes around flat Earth:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/avijitroy/flatearth.htm

Errors in Koran:
Scribal Errors: http://members.aol.com/AlHaqq4u/scribal.html
Grammatical Errors: http://members.aol.com/AlHaqq4u/grammar.html
The Gate: http://members.aol.com/AlHaqq4u/gate.html
Zul-Qarnain: http://members.aol.com/AlHaqq4u/alex.html
Zul-Qarnain and the Sun: http://members.aol.com/AlHaqq4u/spring.html
Inventions to protect the miracle:
http://members.aol.com/AlHaqq4u/inventions.html

Young males are eager to gain dominant position in their society
by all means including violence. When human population explosion
produces too many young males, they restore natural balance by
killing one another. The side effects of the killings are wars and
failed states. Hungry males are less violent than well fed males.
http://www.sappho.dk/Nr.%206%20maj%202007/kontinent-english.html
The cheapest method of preventing the human population explosion
is quinacrine sterilization: http://www.quinacrine.com/
date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:17:45 -0400   author:   Patriot Games

Re: Pro-Islam film to be released in response to 'Fitna'   
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:30:25 -0500, Ramabriga wrote:

> Pro-Islam film to be released in response to 'Fitna'
> Jul. 23, 2008
> The Media Line Staff , THE JERUSALEM POST
> 
> A short film titled Beyond Love will soon be released by the Iranian-based NGO Islam and 
> Christianity (IC), in response to the anti-Islamic Dutch film Fitna, the Iranian news agency 
> IRNA reported.
> 
> "The film aims to introduce the real Islam. It will be useful for those who want to get 
> acquainted with Islam," said IC spokesman Muhammad Karimi.

It should be a brisk and action-filled account of the Islamic Conquests.

Blood everywhere!

Cool!

-- 

We are destroying the Buddha statues
in accordance with Islamic law
and it is purely a religious issue.

< The Taliban on the Buddhas of Bamyan
date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:37:37 -0400   author:   mimus

Re: Pro-Islam film to be released in response to 'Fitna'   
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:37:37 -0400 mimus  wrote:

> > "The film aims to introduce the real Islam. It will be useful for
> > those who want to get acquainted with Islam," said IC spokesman
> > Muhammad Karimi.  
> 
> It should be a brisk and action-filled account of the Islamic
> Conquests.
> 
> Blood everywhere!
> 
> Cool!


Maybe they will give out those noise reduction head sets, to muffle the
explosive noises?
date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:50:23 +1000   author:   Polly the Parrot

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