On Oct 6, 11:28 pm, Bama Brian  wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
> > On Oct 5, 9:06 pm, nraclaptrap <nraclapt...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> Daniel  wrote innews:c64ce367-2725-4fc3-95b9-d896473d18e8@j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com:
>
> >>> On Oct 4, 6:19 pm, "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)
> >>> @comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>> Daniel  wrote
> >>>> innews:44b98dc4-d0b0-4f18-aed9-fbfe
> >>> fd0fa...@m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com:
> >>>>> On Sep 28, 2:32 pm, nraclaptrap <nraclapt...@invalid.invalid>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Bert Hyman  wrote in
> >>>>>> news:Xns9C947EFFAE7DBVeebleFetzer@ 216.250.184.7:
> >>>>>>> Innews:Xns9C8E753094C71piotu0345go2r3ndec@216.196.97.131nraclaptr
> >>>>>>> ap <nraclapt...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Well if everybody's carrying guns how do you tell the criminals
> >>>>>>>> from the law-abiding citizens?  You wait until they murder
> >>>>>>>> somebody, righ
> >>>>> t
> >>>>>>>> Spaniel?
> >>>>>>> That's the way the law works in a civilized society; you have to
> >>>>>>> wait until a crime's actually been committed before locking
> >>>>>>> someone up.
> >>>>>> Actually, preventing crimes by requiring background checks on
> >>>>>> every gun transaction, whether FFL or private, would be a big step
> >>>>>> in the right direction.  So anybody who has a gun who hasn't had a
> >>>>>> background check
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>> automatically a criminal.  
> >>>>> And how many criminals bother to legally purchase a gun?
> >>>> If they are felons, they cannot legally purchase one.  Period...
> >>> Exactly.
> >> If you don't get background checks on private gun sales, you can't catch
> >> any felons who buy those guns, and that's exactly what you want eh
> >> Spaniel?
>
> > How many felons buy their guns legally?
>
> Quite a few actually.  Especially those pre-felons who buy guns just so
> they can go shoot that cheating husband, or the lawyer who skinned them
> out of their life's savings.  But most previously convicted felons get
> them from family members, and secondarily from street sellers.


In other words, none. They are not felons when they buy guns, and the
guns don't cause them to become felons.

>
> BTW, California is among the few states that require that ALL gun sales,
> whether retail or private, go through a background check with an FFL
> handling the transaction.  AFAIK, there has been ZERO effect on violent
> crime.


Again I ask, how many felons buy guns legally?