"_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in message news:...
>
> "Mr. Albritton"  wrote in message 
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>> http://www.timesoftheinternet.com/60366.html
>>
>> You gonna outlaw all the damn knives too???
>
> We'll start with guns, then move to knives if necessary, asswipe.
>

"_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in message 
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> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in message news:...
>>
>> "Mr. Albritton"  wrote in message 
>> news:gqqrtt$ive$1@news.motzarella.org...
>>> http://www.timesoftheinternet.com/60366.html
>>>
>>> You gonna outlaw all the damn knives too???
>>
>> We'll start with guns, then move to knives if necessary, asswipe.
>>

We who, ya got a mouse in your pocket, boi?
You anti gun freaks need to find a new country full of pusses like yourself.

>>> You gonna outlaw all the damn knives too???
>>
>> We'll start with guns, then move to knives if necessary, asswipe.

You will NEVER get my guns.

"Mr. Albritton"  wrote in message 
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>>>> You gonna outlaw all the damn knives too???
>>>
>>> We'll start with guns, then move to knives if necessary, asswipe.
>
> You will NEVER get my guns.

LOL!

That's EXACTLY what David Koresh, Timothy McVeigh and Gordon Kahl all said.

LOL!

>> You will NEVER get my guns.
>
> LOL!
>
> That's EXACTLY what David Koresh, Timothy McVeigh and Gordon Kahl all
> said.
> LOL!

???
Cite.

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:20:51 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
 wrote:

>
>"Mr. Albritton"  wrote in message 
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>>>>> You gonna outlaw all the damn knives too???
>>>>
>>>> We'll start with guns, then move to knives if necessary, asswipe.
>>
>> You will NEVER get my guns.
>
>LOL!
>
>That's EXACTLY what David Koresh, Timothy McVeigh and Gordon Kahl all said.
>
>LOL!
>

Yes U.S. government agents killed David Koresh and a significant
number of his followers including children.  The U.S. government took
Mr. Koresh's guns from the burnt ruble of his home....

Timothy McVeigh used agricultural products to kill and maim hundreds
of folks and destroy government property.  U.S. agents took the guns
out of Mr. McVeigh's hands before he was executed by the state for an
act of terrorim.  There has been no call to ban truck rentals even
though a rental truck was used to carry out this crime. 
Nor has there been any call for retrictions on driver's licenses to
reduce the possiblitiy of folks renting trucks and copying Mr.
McVeigh.

Gordon Kahl was a mentally disturbed man who objected to the taxl laws
of the U.S. Government.   He was killed in a shoot out ( evidence of
whether or not mr. Kahl was one of the shooters is sketchy).
 Lawrence County Sheriff Gene Matthews were killed in the encounter.
There are conflicting reports that Matthews was killed by Kahl, or
killed by friendly fire from the Federal SWAT team.

You left out Ruby Ridge, was that deliberate?

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:24:42 -0600, "Mr. Albritton"
 wrote:

|>>> You will NEVER get my guns.
|>>
|>> LOL!
|>>
|>> That's EXACTLY what David Koresh, Timothy McVeigh and Gordon Kahl all
|>> said.
|>> LOL!
|>

LOL!????
	You think that's funny???.....weird, if you were real, would you
still think THEIR experience was funny???

|>???
|>Cite. 

	Why Cite when there is irrevocable proof all over the common
knowledge network of lawful registered gun owners.....and others....

	Cold Dead fingers...could be....maybe THEY WISH....

On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:47:32 GMT, 10x  wrote:

|>
|>You left out Ruby Ridge, was that deliberate?

Yer Right!

	"Ruby Ridge" was a complete Laugh in your face and phhhssstttt all
over your breakfast by the "Chin Brained" Police State Mongers......

	Read about it, and place yourself as Victim Randy Weaver, watching
your Son get shot in the back by 300 Terrorists, and 300,000 of
surveillance equipment.....

R. LaCasse  wrote in 
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> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:47:32 GMT, 10x  wrote:
> 
>|>
>|>You left out Ruby Ridge, was that deliberate?
> 
> Yer Right!
> 
>      "Ruby Ridge" was a complete Laugh in your face and phhhssstttt all
> over your breakfast by the "Chin Brained" Police State Mongers......
> 
>      Read about it, and place yourself as Victim Randy Weaver, watching
> your Son get shot in the back by 300 Terrorists, and 300,000 of
> surveillance equipment.....

That's the thing about "Police State Mongers":  they have absolutely no 
sense of humor, and if you try to defy them, then they will kill you.  
Randy Weaver was "Victim" Randy Weaver because he chose to be.  Successful 
armed resistance to the authorities is just the daydream of gun nuts.  Said 
authorities are perfectly willing to pry your gun from your cold, dead 
hands.

Koresh is another one.  My understanding is that his weapons purchases were 
all legit.  If he'd allowed himself to be arrested, he could have easily 
shown the charges were bogus.  And no one would have burned to death.

On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:23:42 GMT, Deadrat  wrote:

|>R. LaCasse  wrote in 
|>news:if37t4pvrntj4vd0080mne1bsrpis94un8@4ax.com:
|>
|>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:47:32 GMT, 10x  wrote:
|>> 
|>>|>
|>>|>You left out Ruby Ridge, was that deliberate?
|>> 
|>> Yer Right!
|>> 
|>>      "Ruby Ridge" was a complete Laugh in your face and phhhssstttt all
|>> over your breakfast by the "Chin Brained" Police State Mongers......
|>> 
|>>      Read about it, and place yourself as Victim Randy Weaver, watching
|>> your Son get shot in the back by 300 Terrorists, and 300,000 of
|>> surveillance equipment.....
|>
|>That's the thing about "Police State Mongers":  they have absolutely no 
|>sense of humor, and if you try to defy them, then they will kill you.  

	They have tried and they have died, mostly because they had the
wrong house when they Home Invaded....

|>Randy Weaver was "Victim" Randy Weaver because he chose to be.  Successful 
|>armed resistance to the authorities is just the daydream of gun nuts.  Said 
|>authorities are perfectly willing to pry your gun from your cold, dead 
|>hands.
|>

	I read ALL over that he was coerced, harassed, and intimidated for
years into the Ruby Ridge corner....

	What clinched their act was his *White Supremacy* penchant!

 
|>Koresh is another one.  My understanding is that his weapons purchases were 
|>all legit.  If he'd allowed himself to be arrested, he could have easily 
|>shown the charges were bogus.  And no one would have burned to death.

	The survivors of Koresh (nut) and others are reaping in millions
that the "nonchalant" tax payer has to forfeit in the eyes of the Guvmint
mistakes.......

On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:23:42 GMT, Deadrat  wrote:

|>
|>Koresh is another one.  My understanding is that his weapons purchases were 
|>all legit.  If he'd allowed himself to be arrested, he could have easily 
|>shown the charges were bogus.  And no one would have burned to death

	Everybody knew his Guns were Legit, the Swats just wanted to kill
him, just to have some fun, hell, they even impaled one of their own on a
tank turret, wiped his body on the far edge of the building (hard to view)
then plonked into the building with deteriorating ww1/ww2/Vietnam type of
incendiary tanks/torches/flame throwers......

	Koresh's life and followers was a perfect "lab rat" experiment into
the bold in your face *your nest* power trip of the black clad gangs.

	Somebody is making a fortune in selling ski masks, OH,..but
wait......they Guvmint doesn't pay for anything, they just steal it through
Home invasions, and other armed robberies...

	15 years ago,Tatum creek was another "lab rat" experiment in the
effects of a chemical warfare synthetic penicillin of a G.A.S. (Group "A"
Streptococcus)/(Flesh Eating Disease) you gotta watch what THEY are dumping
on you, because THEY have well secured hiding spots called "Military
Bases"...were THEY can Skulk.

> Why Cite when there is irrevocable proof all over the common
> knowledge network of lawful registered gun owners.....and others....

What a really bad excuse for not citing.
P.S.  I've never heard of the "common knowledge network of lawful registered 
gun owners."

"Deadrat"  wrote in message 
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> R. LaCasse  wrote in
> news:if37t4pvrntj4vd0080mne1bsrpis94un8@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:47:32 GMT, 10x  wrote:
>>
>>|>
>>|>You left out Ruby Ridge, was that deliberate?
>>
>> Yer Right!
>>
>>      "Ruby Ridge" was a complete Laugh in your face and phhhssstttt all
>> over your breakfast by the "Chin Brained" Police State Mongers......
>>
>>      Read about it, and place yourself as Victim Randy Weaver, watching
>> your Son get shot in the back by 300 Terrorists, and 300,000 of
>> surveillance equipment.....
>
> That's the thing about "Police State Mongers":  they have absolutely no
> sense of humor, and if you try to defy them, then they will kill you.
> Randy Weaver was "Victim" Randy Weaver because he chose to be.  Successful
> armed resistance to the authorities is just the daydream of gun nuts.  Said
> authorities are perfectly willing to pry your gun from your cold, dead
> hands.
>
> Koresh is another one.  My understanding is that his weapons purchases were
> all legit.  If he'd allowed himself to be arrested, he could have easily
> shown the charges were bogus.  And no one would have burned to death.

Resistance is Futile.

You will comply with ALL Government "requests", especially the unlawful 
requests!

_ Poofter. Jonez _ wrote:

> Resistance is Futile.

Please tell us all that YOU are the one, that people should resist against.

"Deadrat"  wrote in message 
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> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in
>> "Deadrat"  wrote in message
>>> R. LaCasse  wrote in
>>> news:if37t4pvrntj4vd0080mne1bsrpis94un8@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:47:32 GMT, 10x  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>|>
>>>>|>You left out Ruby Ridge, was that deliberate?
>>>>
>>>> Yer Right!
>>>>
>>>>      "Ruby Ridge" was a complete Laugh in your face and phhhssstttt
>>>>      all
>>>> over your breakfast by the "Chin Brained" Police State Mongers......
>>>>
>>>>      Read about it, and place yourself as Victim Randy Weaver,
>>>>      watching
>>>> your Son get shot in the back by 300 Terrorists, and 300,000 of
>>>> surveillance equipment.....
>>>
>>> That's the thing about "Police State Mongers":  they have absolutely
>>> no sense of humor, and if you try to defy them, then they will kill
>>> you. Randy Weaver was "Victim" Randy Weaver because he chose to be.
>>> Successful armed resistance to the authorities is just the daydream
>>> of gun nuts.  Said authorities are perfectly willing to pry your gun
>>> from your cold, dead hands.
>>>
>>> Koresh is another one.  My understanding is that his weapons
>>> purchases were all legit.  If he'd allowed himself to be arrested, he
>>> could have easily shown the charges were bogus.  And no one would
>>> have burned to death.
>>
>> Resistance is Futile.
>
> You misspelled "Fatal."
>>
>> You will comply with ALL Government "requests", especially the
>> unlawful requests!
>
> Armed resistance is futile.

Explain that to Amadou Diallo.

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> "Deadrat"  wrote in message 
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>> R. LaCasse  wrote in
>> news:if37t4pvrntj4vd0080mne1bsrpis94un8@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:47:32 GMT, 10x  wrote:
>>>
>>>|>
>>>|>You left out Ruby Ridge, was that deliberate?
>>>
>>> Yer Right!
>>>
>>>      "Ruby Ridge" was a complete Laugh in your face and phhhssstttt
>>>      all 
>>> over your breakfast by the "Chin Brained" Police State Mongers......
>>>
>>>      Read about it, and place yourself as Victim Randy Weaver,
>>>      watching 
>>> your Son get shot in the back by 300 Terrorists, and 300,000 of
>>> surveillance equipment.....
>>
>> That's the thing about "Police State Mongers":  they have absolutely
>> no sense of humor, and if you try to defy them, then they will kill
>> you. Randy Weaver was "Victim" Randy Weaver because he chose to be. 
>> Successful armed resistance to the authorities is just the daydream
>> of gun nuts.  Said authorities are perfectly willing to pry your gun
>> from your cold, dead hands.
>>
>> Koresh is another one.  My understanding is that his weapons
>> purchases were all legit.  If he'd allowed himself to be arrested, he
>> could have easily shown the charges were bogus.  And no one would
>> have burned to death. 
> 
> Resistance is Futile.

You misspelled "Fatal."
> 
> You will comply with ALL Government "requests", especially the
> unlawful requests!

Armed resistance is futile.

"_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in news:73igbrFv2q6nU1
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> "Deadrat"  wrote in message 
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>> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in
>>> "Deadrat"  wrote in message
>>>> R. LaCasse  wrote in
>>>> news:if37t4pvrntj4vd0080mne1bsrpis94un8@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:47:32 GMT, 10x  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>|>
>>>>>|>You left out Ruby Ridge, was that deliberate?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yer Right!
>>>>>
>>>>>      "Ruby Ridge" was a complete Laugh in your face and phhhssstttt
>>>>>      all
>>>>> over your breakfast by the "Chin Brained" Police State 
Mongers......
>>>>>
>>>>>      Read about it, and place yourself as Victim Randy Weaver,
>>>>>      watching
>>>>> your Son get shot in the back by 300 Terrorists, and 300,000 of
>>>>> surveillance equipment.....
>>>>
>>>> That's the thing about "Police State Mongers":  they have absolutely
>>>> no sense of humor, and if you try to defy them, then they will kill
>>>> you. Randy Weaver was "Victim" Randy Weaver because he chose to be.
>>>> Successful armed resistance to the authorities is just the daydream
>>>> of gun nuts.  Said authorities are perfectly willing to pry your gun
>>>> from your cold, dead hands.
>>>>
>>>> Koresh is another one.  My understanding is that his weapons
>>>> purchases were all legit.  If he'd allowed himself to be arrested, 
he
>>>> could have easily shown the charges were bogus.  And no one would
>>>> have burned to death.
>>>
>>> Resistance is Futile.
>>
>> You misspelled "Fatal."
>>>
>>> You will comply with ALL Government "requests", especially the
>>> unlawful requests!
>>
>> Armed resistance is futile.
> 
> Explain that to Amadou Diallo.

The cops fired a total of 41 bullets at him and he was unarmed.  How many 
do you suppose they would have fired if he had drawn a gun?

What's your point?

That since he's dead, he might as well have been packing?

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> "Deadrat"  wrote in message 
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>> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in
>>> "Deadrat"  wrote in message
>>>> R. LaCasse  wrote in
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>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:47:32 GMT, 10x  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>|>
>>>>>|>You left out Ruby Ridge, was that deliberate?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yer Right!
>>>>>
>>>>>      "Ruby Ridge" was a complete Laugh in your face and phhhssstttt
>>>>>      all
>>>>> over your breakfast by the "Chin Brained" Police State Mongers......
>>>>>
>>>>>      Read about it, and place yourself as Victim Randy Weaver,
>>>>>      watching
>>>>> your Son get shot in the back by 300 Terrorists, and 300,000 of
>>>>> surveillance equipment.....
>>>>
>>>> That's the thing about "Police State Mongers":  they have absolutely
>>>> no sense of humor, and if you try to defy them, then they will kill
>>>> you. Randy Weaver was "Victim" Randy Weaver because he chose to be.
>>>> Successful armed resistance to the authorities is just the daydream
>>>> of gun nuts.  Said authorities are perfectly willing to pry your gun
>>>> from your cold, dead hands.
>>>>
>>>> Koresh is another one.  My understanding is that his weapons
>>>> purchases were all legit.  If he'd allowed himself to be arrested, he
>>>> could have easily shown the charges were bogus.  And no one would
>>>> have burned to death.
>>>
>>> Resistance is Futile.
>>
>> You misspelled "Fatal."
>>>
>>> You will comply with ALL Government "requests", especially the
>>> unlawful requests!
>>
>> Armed resistance is futile.
>
> Explain that to Amadou Diallo.

Tell that to those fucks up in Afghanistan that held off the Russkies for 
years with nothing more than WW1 carbines.

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> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in message 
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>> "Deadrat"  wrote in message 
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>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in
>>>> "Deadrat"  wrote in message
>>>>> R. LaCasse  wrote in
>>>>> news:if37t4pvrntj4vd0080mne1bsrpis94un8@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:47:32 GMT, 10x  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>|>
>>>>>>|>You left out Ruby Ridge, was that deliberate?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yer Right!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      "Ruby Ridge" was a complete Laugh in your face and phhhssstttt
>>>>>>      all
>>>>>> over your breakfast by the "Chin Brained" Police State Mongers......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Read about it, and place yourself as Victim Randy Weaver,
>>>>>>      watching
>>>>>> your Son get shot in the back by 300 Terrorists, and 300,000 of
>>>>>> surveillance equipment.....
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the thing about "Police State Mongers":  they have absolutely
>>>>> no sense of humor, and if you try to defy them, then they will kill
>>>>> you. Randy Weaver was "Victim" Randy Weaver because he chose to be.
>>>>> Successful armed resistance to the authorities is just the daydream
>>>>> of gun nuts.  Said authorities are perfectly willing to pry your gun
>>>>> from your cold, dead hands.
>>>>>
>>>>> Koresh is another one.  My understanding is that his weapons
>>>>> purchases were all legit.  If he'd allowed himself to be arrested, he
>>>>> could have easily shown the charges were bogus.  And no one would
>>>>> have burned to death.
>>>>
>>>> Resistance is Futile.
>>>
>>> You misspelled "Fatal."
>>>>
>>>> You will comply with ALL Government "requests", especially the
>>>> unlawful requests!
>>>
>>> Armed resistance is futile.
>>
>> Explain that to Amadou Diallo.
>
> Tell that to those fucks up in Afghanistan that held off the Russkies for 
> years with nothing more than WW1 carbines.
>

And a variety of American supplied missiles
    That's what they used to shoot down those Hind helicopters and blow up 
Russian tanks.

"Deadrat"  wrote in message 
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> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote
>> "Deadrat"  wrote in message
>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in
>>>> "Deadrat"  wrote in message
>>>>> R. LaCasse  wrote in
>>>>> news:if37t4pvrntj4vd0080mne1bsrpis94un8@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:47:32 GMT, 10x  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>|>
>>>>>>|>You left out Ruby Ridge, was that deliberate?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yer Right!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      "Ruby Ridge" was a complete Laugh in your face and phhhssstttt
>>>>>>      all
>>>>>> over your breakfast by the "Chin Brained" Police State
> Mongers......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Read about it, and place yourself as Victim Randy Weaver,
>>>>>>      watching
>>>>>> your Son get shot in the back by 300 Terrorists, and 300,000 of
>>>>>> surveillance equipment.....
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the thing about "Police State Mongers":  they have absolutely
>>>>> no sense of humor, and if you try to defy them, then they will kill
>>>>> you. Randy Weaver was "Victim" Randy Weaver because he chose to be.
>>>>> Successful armed resistance to the authorities is just the daydream
>>>>> of gun nuts.  Said authorities are perfectly willing to pry your gun
>>>>> from your cold, dead hands.
>>>>>
>>>>> Koresh is another one.  My understanding is that his weapons
>>>>> purchases were all legit.  If he'd allowed himself to be arrested,
> he
>>>>> could have easily shown the charges were bogus.  And no one would
>>>>> have burned to death.
>>>>
>>>> Resistance is Futile.
>>>
>>> You misspelled "Fatal."
>>>>
>>>> You will comply with ALL Government "requests", especially the
>>>> unlawful requests!
>>>
>>> Armed resistance is futile.
>>
>> Explain that to Amadou Diallo.
>
> The cops fired a total of 41 bullets at him and he was unarmed.  How many
> do you suppose they would have fired if he had drawn a gun?

Depends if he was faster on that draw and trigger.

>
> What's your point?

Unarmed resistance is Fatal.

> That since he's dead, he might as well have been packing?

Any difference from his perspective?

"Long Ranger"  wrote in message
> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in message
>> "Deadrat"  wrote in message
>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in
>>>> "Deadrat"  wrote in message
>>>>> R. LaCasse  wrote in
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:47:32 GMT, 10x  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>|>
>>>>>>|>You left out Ruby Ridge, was that deliberate?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yer Right!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      "Ruby Ridge" was a complete Laugh in your face and phhhssstttt
>>>>>>      all
>>>>>> over your breakfast by the "Chin Brained" Police State Mongers......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Read about it, and place yourself as Victim Randy Weaver,
>>>>>>      watching
>>>>>> your Son get shot in the back by 300 Terrorists, and 300,000 of
>>>>>> surveillance equipment.....
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the thing about "Police State Mongers":  they have absolutely
>>>>> no sense of humor, and if you try to defy them, then they will kill
>>>>> you. Randy Weaver was "Victim" Randy Weaver because he chose to be.
>>>>> Successful armed resistance to the authorities is just the daydream
>>>>> of gun nuts.  Said authorities are perfectly willing to pry your gun
>>>>> from your cold, dead hands.
>>>>>
>>>>> Koresh is another one.  My understanding is that his weapons
>>>>> purchases were all legit.  If he'd allowed himself to be arrested, he
>>>>> could have easily shown the charges were bogus.  And no one would
>>>>> have burned to death.
>>>>
>>>> Resistance is Futile.
>>>
>>> You misspelled "Fatal."
>>>>
>>>> You will comply with ALL Government "requests", especially the
>>>> unlawful requests!
>>>
>>> Armed resistance is futile.
>>
>> Explain that to Amadou Diallo.
>
> Tell that to those fucks up in Afghanistan that held off the Russkies for 
> years with nothing more than WW1 carbines.

Tell that to Saddam Hussein and all his "Weapons of Mass Destruction".

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:56:58 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" 
wrote:

>>>>> Resistance is Futile.
>>>>
>>>> You misspelled "Fatal."
>>>>>
>>>>> You will comply with ALL Government "requests", especially the
>>>>> unlawful requests!
>>>>
>>>> Armed resistance is futile.
>>>
>>> Explain that to Amadou Diallo.
>>
>> Tell that to those fucks up in Afghanistan that held off the Russkies for 
>> years with nothing more than WW1 carbines.
>>
>
>And a variety of American supplied missiles
>    That's what they used to shoot down those Hind helicopters and blow up 
>Russian tanks.

Only after Charlie Wilson got into the act in the mid 80's.  For
YEARS, their main weapon was the Lee/Enfield SMLE.  The only help they
got from the US prior to that was our "boycott" of the Moscow
Olympics.

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:11:15 -0600, "Mr. Albritton"
 wrote:

|>> Why Cite when there is irrevocable proof all over the common
|>> knowledge network of lawful registered gun owners.....and others....
|>
|>What a really bad excuse for not citing.
|>P.S.  I've never heard of the "common knowledge network of lawful registered 
|>gun owners." 
|>

	Then get informed, Get some "horse sense"......

	History proves that all sciences are not even close to
autonomic/intuition levels yet.

	A persons diencephalon does about 300million calculations while
typing, and only 300 thousand while basic doing physical work.....this is
ALL analogue, so a digital euphemism is much higher (9X?) but more
"volatile"......

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> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in message 
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>> "Deadrat"  wrote in message 
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>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in
>>>> "Deadrat"  wrote in message
>>>>> R. LaCasse  wrote in
>>>>> news:if37t4pvrntj4vd0080mne1bsrpis94un8@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:47:32 GMT, 10x  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>|>
>>>>>>|>You left out Ruby Ridge, was that deliberate?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yer Right!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      "Ruby Ridge" was a complete Laugh in your face and
>>>>>>      phhhssstttt all
>>>>>> over your breakfast by the "Chin Brained" Police State
>>>>>> Mongers...... 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Read about it, and place yourself as Victim Randy Weaver,
>>>>>>      watching
>>>>>> your Son get shot in the back by 300 Terrorists, and 300,000 of
>>>>>> surveillance equipment.....
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the thing about "Police State Mongers":  they have
>>>>> absolutely no sense of humor, and if you try to defy them, then
>>>>> they will kill you. Randy Weaver was "Victim" Randy Weaver because
>>>>> he chose to be. Successful armed resistance to the authorities is
>>>>> just the daydream of gun nuts.  Said authorities are perfectly
>>>>> willing to pry your gun from your cold, dead hands.
>>>>>
>>>>> Koresh is another one.  My understanding is that his weapons
>>>>> purchases were all legit.  If he'd allowed himself to be arrested,
>>>>> he could have easily shown the charges were bogus.  And no one
>>>>> would have burned to death.
>>>>
>>>> Resistance is Futile.
>>>
>>> You misspelled "Fatal."
>>>>
>>>> You will comply with ALL Government "requests", especially the
>>>> unlawful requests!
>>>
>>> Armed resistance is futile.
>>
>> Explain that to Amadou Diallo.
> 
> Tell that to those fucks up in Afghanistan that held off the Russkies
> for years with nothing more than WW1 carbines. 

First of all those fucks up in Afghanistan had their asses kicked from 
one end of the Hindu Kush to the other as long as they had nothing but 
WWI carbines.  They booted the Ruskies out when they got surface-to-air 
missiles.

Secondly, those fucks up in Afghanistan were fighting foreign invaders.

See the difference?

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>>>
>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Deadrat"  wrote in message
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>>>>>> "Deadrat"  wrote in message
>>>>>>> R. LaCasse  wrote in
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:47:32 GMT, 10x  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>|>
>>>>>>>>|>You left out Ruby Ridge, was that deliberate?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yer Right!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      "Ruby Ridge" was a complete Laugh in your face and
>>>>>>>>      phhhssstttt all
>>>>>>>> over your breakfast by the "Chin Brained" Police State
>>>>>>>> Mongers......
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      Read about it, and place yourself as Victim Randy Weaver,
>>>>>>>>      watching
>>>>>>>> your Son get shot in the back by 300 Terrorists, and 300,000 of
>>>>>>>> surveillance equipment.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's the thing about "Police State Mongers":  they have
>>>>>>> absolutely no sense of humor, and if you try to defy them, then
>>>>>>> they will kill you. Randy Weaver was "Victim" Randy Weaver because
>>>>>>> he chose to be. Successful armed resistance to the authorities is
>>>>>>> just the daydream of gun nuts.  Said authorities are perfectly
>>>>>>> willing to pry your gun from your cold, dead hands.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Koresh is another one.  My understanding is that his weapons
>>>>>>> purchases were all legit.  If he'd allowed himself to be arrested,
>>>>>>> he could have easily shown the charges were bogus.  And no one
>>>>>>> would have burned to death.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Resistance is Futile.
>>>>>
>>>>> You misspelled "Fatal."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You will comply with ALL Government "requests", especially the
>>>>>> unlawful requests!
>>>>>
>>>>> Armed resistance is futile.
>>>>
>>>> Explain that to Amadou Diallo.
>>>
>>> Tell that to those fucks up in Afghanistan that held off the Russkies
>>> for years with nothing more than WW1 carbines.
>>
>> First of all those fucks up in Afghanistan had their asses kicked from
>> one end of the Hindu Kush to the other as long as they had nothing but
>> WWI carbines.  They booted the Ruskies out when they got surface-to-air
>> missiles.
>>
>> Secondly, those fucks up in Afghanistan were fighting foreign invaders.
>>
>> See the difference?
>
> Yeah, but how many years did they hold on? I'm not dreaming of undoing years 
> of liberal perversion with one battle in my front yard. The nay-sayers may be 
> right, but I still think it would cause a lot of internal strife for any 
> military, or para-military group to be ordered into neighborhoods to clear out 
> people willing to fight and die for their freedom.

Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign soil,
against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.

Why does the U$A hate freedom so much?

SNIP>>> Secondly, those fucks up in Afghanistan were fighting foreign 
invaders.
>>>
>>> See the difference?
>>
>> Yeah, but how many years did they hold on? I'm not dreaming of undoing 
>> years of liberal perversion with one battle in my front yard. The 
>> nay-sayers may be right, but I still think it would cause a lot of 
>> internal strife for any military, or para-military group to be ordered 
>> into neighborhoods to clear out people willing to fight and die for their 
>> freedom.
>
> Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign soil,
> against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.
>
> Why does the U$A hate freedom so much?


The USA loses foreign wars because the Left runs a campaign to undermine 
them. You have to be able to kill man woman and child in a war to win it. 
The Left prevents that by keeping a war "PC" and gets our guys killed trying 
to prevent collateral damage. I'm sure you "know" otherwise though.

"Long Ranger"  wrote in message 
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> SNIP>>> Secondly, those fucks up in Afghanistan were fighting foreign 
> invaders.
>>>>
>>>> See the difference?
>>>
>>> Yeah, but how many years did they hold on? I'm not dreaming of undoing years 
>>> of liberal perversion with one battle in my front yard. The nay-sayers may 
>>> be right, but I still think it would cause a lot of internal strife for any 
>>> military, or para-military group to be ordered into neighborhoods to clear 
>>> out people willing to fight and die for their freedom.
>>
>> Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign soil,
>> against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.
>>
>> Why does the U$A hate freedom so much?
>
>
> The USA loses foreign wars because the Left ...

LOL!

Poor pathetic rightards, can't even keep the peacenik pinko "lefties"
under control long enough to win a war against stone-aged societies
that don't even have an air-force or a navy. LOL!

_ Prof. poofter Jonez _ wrote:

> Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign soil,
> against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.

The USA has never lost a war, anywhere.


> Why does the U$A hate freedom so much?

We provide and help keep "freedom" to the rest of the planet that wants it.

Why don't YOU have any?

"Roy Estrada"  wrote in message 
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>_ Prof. poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>
>> Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign soil,
>> against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.
>
> The USA has never lost a war, anywhere.

ROTFLMAO!

>
>
>> Why does the U$A hate freedom so much?
>
> We provide and help keep "freedom" to the rest of the planet that wants it.
>

Delusional much ?

LOL!

_ Prof.Poofter Jonez _ wrote:
> "Roy Estrada"  wrote in message 
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> 
>>_ Prof. poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign soil,
>>>against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.
>>
>>The USA has never lost a war, anywhere.

> ROTFLMAO!

Name one "WAR" that the USA has "lost", poofter.



>>>Why does the U$A hate freedom so much?

We don't.
Explain why YOU hate OUR Freedoms, poofter.

>>We provide and help keep "freedom" to the rest of the planet that wants it.

> Delusional much ?

Not at all.

Provide YOUR origin(country) and what "freedoms" you think you have that 
are better then mine, Poofter.

Roy Estrada  wrote in
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> _ Prof. poofter Jonez _ wrote:
> 
>> Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign soil,
>> against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.
> 
> The USA has never lost a war, anywhere.

The USA has never been forced to sign a general surrender and has never 
been occupied by foreign enemies after a conflict ceased.

The War of 1812 and the Korea War were close enough to be called ties.

We lost the Vietnam War by any political or military measure.

The same with the second Gulf War.

The results on Afghanistan are pending.
 
>> Why does the U$A hate freedom so much?
> 
> We provide and help keep "freedom" to the rest of the planet that
> wants it. 

And if they don't want "freedom"?  We kill them until they do.  See the 
Phillipines, Iraq, etc.

> Why don't YOU have any?

Free your mind from jingoism.  Bad things won't happen to the country.

I promise.

Roy Estrada wrote:
> _ Prof.Poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>> "Roy Estrada"  wrote in message 
>> news:49d4fe12$0$22550$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>
>>> _ Prof. poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign soil,
>>>> against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.
>>>
>>> The USA has never lost a war, anywhere.
> 
>> ROTFLMAO!
> 
> Name one "WAR" that the USA has "lost", poofter.

Vietnam went really well, Iraq is doing ok I suppose, Afghanistan isep, 
  going good, Cuba yep that embargo is working wonders.

9/11 was just collateral damage. Oh, under the most right-wing 
government in my lifetime.
  > Provide YOUR origin(country) and what "freedoms" you think you have 
that
> are better then mine, Poofter.

Well one freedon you have that I don't is that you can fly into my 
country without having to give your fingerprints and face the 3rd 
degree. Unlike when I fly into yours.

"Martin"  wrote in message 
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> Roy Estrada wrote:
>> _ Prof.Poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>> "Roy Estrada"  wrote in message 
>>> news:49d4fe12$0$22550$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>
>>>> _ Prof. poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign soil,
>>>>> against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.
>>>>
>>>> The USA has never lost a war, anywhere.
>>
>>> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>> Name one "WAR" that the USA has "lost", poofter.
>
> Vietnam went really well, Iraq is doing ok I suppose, Afghanistan isep, 
> going good, Cuba yep that embargo is working wonders.
>

1)    Yup Militarily, the US had pretty well demolished the North Vietnamese
            Their own top general pretty well said so in his memoirs
        It was the Dems, who basically turned a victory into a defeat by 
dropping South Vietnam like a hot potato
2)    The Cuban embargo is NOT a "war"

But thanks for playing


> 9/11 was just collateral damage. Oh, under the most right-wing government 
> in my lifetime.
>  > Provide YOUR origin(country) and what "freedoms" you think you have 
> that
>> are better then mine, Poofter.
>
> Well one freedon you have that I don't is that you can fly into my country 
> without having to give your fingerprints and face the 3rd degree. Unlike 
> when I fly into yours.


Well, if you are a US citizen, you don't need to do that either

Again
thanks for playing
Better luck next time.

SaPeIsMa wrote:
> 
> "Martin"  wrote in message 
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>> Roy Estrada wrote:
>>> _ Prof.Poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>>> "Roy Estrada"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:49d4fe12$0$22550$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>
>>>>> _ Prof. poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign soil,
>>>>>> against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.
>>>>>
>>>>> The USA has never lost a war, anywhere.
>>>
>>>> ROTFLMAO!
>>>
>>> Name one "WAR" that the USA has "lost", poofter.
>>
>> Vietnam went really well, Iraq is doing ok I suppose, Afghanistan 
>> isep, going good, Cuba yep that embargo is working wonders.
>>
> 
> 1)    Yup Militarily, the US had pretty well demolished the North 
> Vietnamese
>            Their own top general pretty well said so in his memoirs
>        It was the Dems, who basically turned a victory into a defeat by 
> dropping South Vietnam like a hot potato

So it WAS a defeat then by your own admission, "It was the Dems, who 
basically turned a victory into a defeat"

I agree with you totally, it was a defeat.

> 2)    The Cuban embargo is NOT a "war"

Yeah right! That's why it's illegal for any American citizen, anywhere 
in the world to enjoy a decent cigar. Land of the free my left foot.

>> 9/11 was just collateral damage. Oh, under the most right-wing 
>> government in my lifetime.

No comment made on this one I see

>>  > Provide YOUR origin(country) and what "freedoms" you think you have 
>> that
>>> are better then mine, Poofter.
>>
>> Well one freedon you have that I don't is that you can fly into my 
>> country without having to give your fingerprints and face the 3rd 
>> degree. Unlike when I fly into yours.
> 
> 
> Well, if you are a US citizen, you don't need to do that either

Don't need to do what?

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> 
> "Martin"  wrote in message 
> news:49d51e6d$0$19227$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>> Roy Estrada wrote:
>>> _ Prof.Poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>>> "Roy Estrada"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:49d4fe12$0$22550$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>
>>>>> _ Prof. poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign
>>>>>> soil, against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.
>>>>>
>>>>> The USA has never lost a war, anywhere.
>>>
>>>> ROTFLMAO!
>>>
>>> Name one "WAR" that the USA has "lost", poofter.
>>
>> Vietnam went really well, Iraq is doing ok I suppose, Afghanistan
>> isep, going good, Cuba yep that embargo is working wonders.
>>
> 
> 1)    Yup Militarily, the US had pretty well demolished the North
> Vietnamese 
>             Their own top general pretty well said so in his memoirs

This is rightard revisionism.  The NVA never stopped streaming down the 
Ho Chi Minh trail, and our corrupt allies had no base of support in the 
south.

>         It was the Dems, who basically turned a victory into a defeat
>         by dropping South Vietnam like a hot potato

This is more rightard revisionsim.  If only we had been willing to spend 
*another* fifteen years fighting in Vietnam, then we would have seen the 
light at the end of the tunnel.

> 2)    The Cuban embargo is NOT a "war"

It's hardly even an embargo.

<snip/>

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> "Deadrat"  wrote in message 
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>> Roy Estrada  wrote in
>> news:49d4fe12$0$22550$607ed4bc@cv.net:
>>
>>> _ Prof. poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign soil,
>>>> against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.
>>>
>>> The USA has never lost a war, anywhere.
>>
>> The USA has never been forced to sign a general surrender and has never
>> been occupied by foreign enemies after a conflict ceased.
>>
>> The War of 1812 and the Korea War were close enough to be called ties.
>>
>> We lost the Vietnam War by any political or military measure.
>
>
> Korea and Viet Nam were not war's they were police actions.

And the U$A LOST both of them.

>It's only a war if congress passes a bill declaring war and they are too 
>splineless to do that.  Somebody might ask how they voted.

U$A, a nation of cowards and losers.

"Martin"  wrote in message 
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> SaPeIsMa wrote:
>>
>> "Martin"  wrote in message 
>> news:49d51e6d$0$19227$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>> Roy Estrada wrote:
>>>> _ Prof.Poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>>>> "Roy Estrada"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:49d4fe12$0$22550$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>> _ Prof. poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign 
>>>>>>> soil,
>>>>>>> against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The USA has never lost a war, anywhere.
>>>>
>>>>> ROTFLMAO!
>>>>
>>>> Name one "WAR" that the USA has "lost", poofter.
>>>
>>> Vietnam went really well, Iraq is doing ok I suppose, Afghanistan isep, 
>>> going good, Cuba yep that embargo is working wonders.
>>>
>>
>> 1)    Yup Militarily, the US had pretty well demolished the North 
>> Vietnamese
>>            Their own top general pretty well said so in his memoirs
>>        It was the Dems, who basically turned a victory into a defeat by 
>> dropping South Vietnam like a hot potato
>
> So it WAS a defeat then by your own admission, "It was the Dems, who 
> basically turned a victory into a defeat"
>
> I agree with you totally, it was a defeat.
>

NO
Since the discussion was about MILITARY actions
    Vietnam was NOT a MILITARY defeat
It was a POLITICAL defeat
    Too bad you choose to move the goalposts


>> 2)    The Cuban embargo is NOT a "war"
>
> Yeah right! That's why it's illegal for any American citizen, anywhere in 
> the world to enjoy a decent cigar. Land of the free my left foot.
>

Is that where you keep your brain ?
    That would explain things


>>> 9/11 was just collateral damage. Oh, under the most right-wing 
>>> government in my lifetime.
>
> No comment made on this one I see
>

Yawn
    9/11 was not the US going to war...
But nice try
Maybe you should READ what the response is to, so that you can understand 
the CONTEXT
    You do know what "context" means, I hope.


>>>  > Provide YOUR origin(country) and what "freedoms" you think you have 
>>> that
>>>> are better then mine, Poofter.
>>>
>>> Well one freedon you have that I don't is that you can fly into my 
>>> country without having to give your fingerprints and face the 3rd 
>>> degree. Unlike when I fly into yours.
>>
>>
>> Well, if you are a US citizen, you don't need to do that either
>
> Don't need to do what?

See what happens when you don't read for context but only to post replies

You're a MORON...

SaPeIsMa wrote:
> 
> "Martin"  wrote in message 
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>> SaPeIsMa wrote:
>>>
>>> "Martin"  wrote in message 
>>> news:49d51e6d$0$19227$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>>> Roy Estrada wrote:
>>>>> _ Prof.Poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>>>>> "Roy Estrada"  wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:49d4fe12$0$22550$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _ Prof. poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign 
>>>>>>>> soil,
>>>>>>>> against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The USA has never lost a war, anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFLMAO!
>>>>>
>>>>> Name one "WAR" that the USA has "lost", poofter.
>>>>
>>>> Vietnam went really well, Iraq is doing ok I suppose, Afghanistan 
>>>> isep, going good, Cuba yep that embargo is working wonders.
>>>>
>>>
>>> 1)    Yup Militarily, the US had pretty well demolished the North 
>>> Vietnamese
>>>            Their own top general pretty well said so in his memoirs
>>>        It was the Dems, who basically turned a victory into a defeat 
>>> by dropping South Vietnam like a hot potato
>>
>> So it WAS a defeat then by your own admission, "It was the Dems, who 
>> basically turned a victory into a defeat"
>>
>> I agree with you totally, it was a defeat.
>>
> 
> NO
> Since the discussion was about MILITARY actions
>    Vietnam was NOT a MILITARY defeat
> It was a POLITICAL defeat
>    Too bad you choose to move the goalposts

"Name one "WAR" that the USA has "lost"

You said Vietnam was a loss. You're just being a fuckwit now.

I'm having trouble thinking of recent wears the US has won! Most have 
been withdrawls with the tail between their legs. Afghanistan is likely 
to go the same way.

Martin wrote:
>>
>> Name one "WAR" that the USA has "lost", poofter.
>
> Vietnam went really well, Iraq is doing ok I suppose, Afghanistan
>  isep, going good, Cuba yep that embargo is working wonders.
>

The United States concluded a peace treaty with North Vietnam (for which 
Henry Kissenger got the Nobel Prize). The last American combat soldier left 
Vietnam more than a year before North Vietnam re-invaded the south. The U.S. 
did not "lose" the Vietnamese war - at least militarily. At worst, the 
conflict was a "draw."

The South could have prevailed against the War of Northern Aggression but 
the Democrats in Congress wiped out the funding for the South Vietnamese 
army some months before the resurgence of the North.

We haven't "lost" in Afghanistan. Yet. Come back in a couple of years.

The Cuban embargo has been an unqualified success. It has proven that 
home-made parts for 1955 Chevrolets can keep the beasts running, a skill we 
may very well need in the coming years.

"Martin"  wrote in message 
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> SaPeIsMa wrote:
>>
>> "Martin"  wrote in message 
>> news:49d53217$0$19225$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>> SaPeIsMa wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Martin"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:49d51e6d$0$19227$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>>>> Roy Estrada wrote:
>>>>>> _ Prof.Poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>>>>>> "Roy Estrada"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:49d4fe12$0$22550$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _ Prof. poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign 
>>>>>>>>> soil,
>>>>>>>>> against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The USA has never lost a war, anywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFLMAO!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Name one "WAR" that the USA has "lost", poofter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vietnam went really well, Iraq is doing ok I suppose, Afghanistan 
>>>>> isep, going good, Cuba yep that embargo is working wonders.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1)    Yup Militarily, the US had pretty well demolished the North 
>>>> Vietnamese
>>>>            Their own top general pretty well said so in his memoirs
>>>>        It was the Dems, who basically turned a victory into a defeat by 
>>>> dropping South Vietnam like a hot potato
>>>
>>> So it WAS a defeat then by your own admission, "It was the Dems, who 
>>> basically turned a victory into a defeat"
>>>
>>> I agree with you totally, it was a defeat.
>>>
>>
>> NO
>> Since the discussion was about MILITARY actions
>>    Vietnam was NOT a MILITARY defeat
>> It was a POLITICAL defeat
>>    Too bad you choose to move the goalposts
>
> "Name one "WAR" that the USA has "lost"
>
> You said Vietnam was a loss. You're just being a fuckwit now.
>

I didn't realize that you can only read certain words and thus miss out on 
all the others
    Why don't you come when you can understand ALL the words in sentences..


> I'm having trouble thinking of recent wears the US has won! Most have been 
> withdrawls with the tail between their legs. Afghanistan is likely to go 
> the same way.

Sure, bub
That's also what you lefty morons where claiming at the start of Iraq

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> "Martin"  wrote in message 
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>> SaPeIsMa wrote:
>>>
>>> "Martin"  wrote in message 
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>>>> SaPeIsMa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Martin"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>> Roy Estrada wrote:
>>>>>>> _ Prof.Poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Roy Estrada"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _ Prof. poofter Jonez _ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign soil,
>>>>>>>>>> against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The USA has never lost a war, anywhere.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ROTFLMAO!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Name one "WAR" that the USA has "lost", poofter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vietnam went really well, Iraq is doing ok I suppose, Afghanistan isep, 
>>>>>> going good, Cuba yep that embargo is working wonders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1)    Yup Militarily, the US had pretty well demolished the North 
>>>>> Vietnamese
>>>>>            Their own top general pretty well said so in his memoirs
>>>>>        It was the Dems, who basically turned a victory into a defeat by 
>>>>> dropping South Vietnam like a hot potato
>>>>
>>>> So it WAS a defeat then by your own admission, "It was the Dems, who 
>>>> basically turned a victory into a defeat"
>>>>
>>>> I agree with you totally, it was a defeat.
>>>>
>>>
>>> NO
>>> Since the discussion was about MILITARY actions
>>>    Vietnam was NOT a MILITARY defeat
>>> It was a POLITICAL defeat
>>>    Too bad you choose to move the goalposts
>>
>> "Name one "WAR" that the USA has "lost"
>>
>> You said Vietnam was a loss. You're just being a fuckwit now.
>>
>
> I didn't realize that

We know, you gutless warmongering chickenhawk cowardly piece of crap.

In article ,
 "HeyBub"  wrote:

> Martin wrote:
> >>
> >> Name one "WAR" that the USA has "lost", poofter.
> >
> > Vietnam went really well, Iraq is doing ok I suppose, Afghanistan
> >  isep, going good, Cuba yep that embargo is working wonders.
> >
> 
> The United States concluded a peace treaty with North Vietnam (for which 
> Henry Kissenger got the Nobel Prize). The last American combat soldier left 
> Vietnam more than a year before North Vietnam re-invaded the south. The U.S. 
> did not "lose" the Vietnamese war - at least militarily. At worst, the 
> conflict was a "draw."
What did we get from 60,000 dead Americans, except 2,000,000 dead 
Vietnamese, not to mention the post traumatic stress all around. Did it 
improve your life? 
> 
> The South could have prevailed against the War of Northern Aggression but 
> the Democrats in Congress wiped out the funding for the South Vietnamese 
> army some months before the resurgence of the North.
> 
> We haven't "lost" in Afghanistan. Yet. Come back in a couple of years.
> 
> The Cuban embargo has been an unqualified success. It has proven that 
> home-made parts for 1955 Chevrolets can keep the beasts running, a skill we 
> may very well need in the coming years.
-- 

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being 
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the 
moment of conception until death."  - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

In article <49d53217$0$19225$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>,
 Martin  wrote:

> SaPeIsMa wrote:
> > 
> > "Martin"  wrote in message 
> > news:49d51e6d$0$19227$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> >> Roy Estrada wrote:
> >>> _ Prof.Poofter Jonez _ wrote:
> >>>> "Roy Estrada"  wrote in message 
> >>>> news:49d4fe12$0$22550$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >>>>
> >>>>> _ Prof. poofter Jonez _ wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign soil,
> >>>>>> against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The USA has never lost a war, anywhere.
> >>>
> >>>> ROTFLMAO!
> >>>
> >>> Name one "WAR" that the USA has "lost", poofter.
> >>
> >> Vietnam went really well, Iraq is doing ok I suppose, Afghanistan 
> >> isep, going good, Cuba yep that embargo is working wonders.
> >>
> > 
> > 1)    Yup Militarily, the US had pretty well demolished the North 
> > Vietnamese
> >            Their own top general pretty well said so in his memoirs
> >        It was the Dems, who basically turned a victory into a defeat by 
> > dropping South Vietnam like a hot potato
> 
> So it WAS a defeat then by your own admission, "It was the Dems, who 
> basically turned a victory into a defeat"
> 
> I agree with you totally, it was a defeat.
> 
> > 2)    The Cuban embargo is NOT a "war"
> 
> Yeah right! That's why it's illegal for any American citizen, anywhere 
> in the world to enjoy a decent cigar. Land of the free my left foot.
Not if you are the Republican governor (The Groppenator) of Californica.
> 
> >> 9/11 was just collateral damage. Oh, under the most right-wing 
> >> government in my lifetime.
> 
> No comment made on this one I see
> 
> >>  > Provide YOUR origin(country) and what "freedoms" you think you have 
> >> that
> >>> are better then mine, Poofter.
> >>
> >> Well one freedon you have that I don't is that you can fly into my 
> >> country without having to give your fingerprints and face the 3rd 
> >> degree. Unlike when I fly into yours.
> > 
> > 
> > Well, if you are a US citizen, you don't need to do that either
> 
> Don't need to do what?
-- 

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being 
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the 
moment of conception until death."  - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

In article <gr2tjj$rn6$1@news.motzarella.org>,
 "Long Ranger"  wrote:

> SNIP>>> Secondly, those fucks up in Afghanistan were fighting foreign 
> invaders.
> >>>
> >>> See the difference?
> >>
> >> Yeah, but how many years did they hold on? I'm not dreaming of undoing 
> >> years of liberal perversion with one battle in my front yard. The 
> >> nay-sayers may be right, but I still think it would cause a lot of 
> >> internal strife for any military, or para-military group to be ordered 
> >> into neighborhoods to clear out people willing to fight and die for their 
> >> freedom.
> >
> > Which is why the U$A ALWAYS loses the wars it starts on foreign soil,
> > against far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nations.
> >
> > Why does the U$A hate freedom so much?
> 
> 
> The USA loses foreign wars because the Left runs a campaign to undermine 
> them. You have to be able to kill man woman and child in a war to win it. 
> The Left prevents that by keeping a war "PC" and gets our guys killed trying 
> to prevent collateral damage. I'm sure you "know" otherwise though. 

Yeah, that's what they said about Vietnam. Kill everyone (militants, 
grandmothers, grandchildren) and pave it over. Kinda makes you the that 
the asphalt companies were behind the war.
-- 

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being 
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the 
moment of conception until death."  - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

In article ,
 "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote:

> "Long Ranger"  wrote in message
> > "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in message
> >> "Deadrat"  wrote in message
> >>> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in
> >>>> "Deadrat"  wrote in message
> >>>>> R. LaCasse  wrote in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:47:32 GMT, 10x  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>|>
> >>>>>>|>You left out Ruby Ridge, was that deliberate?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yer Right!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      "Ruby Ridge" was a complete Laugh in your face and phhhssstttt
> >>>>>>      all
> >>>>>> over your breakfast by the "Chin Brained" Police State Mongers......
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      Read about it, and place yourself as Victim Randy Weaver,
> >>>>>>      watching
> >>>>>> your Son get shot in the back by 300 Terrorists, and 300,000 of
> >>>>>> surveillance equipment.....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That's the thing about "Police State Mongers":  they have absolutely
> >>>>> no sense of humor, and if you try to defy them, then they will kill
> >>>>> you. Randy Weaver was "Victim" Randy Weaver because he chose to be.
> >>>>> Successful armed resistance to the authorities is just the daydream
> >>>>> of gun nuts.  Said authorities are perfectly willing to pry your gun
> >>>>> from your cold, dead hands.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Koresh is another one.  My understanding is that his weapons
> >>>>> purchases were all legit.  If he'd allowed himself to be arrested, he
> >>>>> could have easily shown the charges were bogus.  And no one would
> >>>>> have burned to death.
> >>>>
> >>>> Resistance is Futile.
> >>>
> >>> You misspelled "Fatal."
> >>>>
> >>>> You will comply with ALL Government "requests", especially the
> >>>> unlawful requests!
> >>>
> >>> Armed resistance is futile.
> >>
> >> Explain that to Amadou Diallo.
> >
> > Tell that to those fucks up in Afghanistan that held off the Russkies for 
> > years with nothing more than WW1 carbines.
> 
> Tell that to Saddam Hussein and all his "Weapons of Mass Destruction".

Tell that to the 4265 Americans killed in Iraq.
-- 

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being 
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the 
moment of conception until death."  - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

In article ,
 Fiftycal@abcnnbcbs.com wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:56:58 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" 
> wrote:
> 
> >>>>> Resistance is Futile.
> >>>>
> >>>> You misspelled "Fatal."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You will comply with ALL Government "requests", especially the
> >>>>> unlawful requests!
> >>>>
> >>>> Armed resistance is futile.
> >>>
> >>> Explain that to Amadou Diallo.
> >>
> >> Tell that to those fucks up in Afghanistan that held off the Russkies for 
> >> years with nothing more than WW1 carbines.
> >>
> >
> >And a variety of American supplied missiles
> >    That's what they used to shoot down those Hind helicopters and blow up 
> >Russian tanks.
> 
> Only after Charlie Wilson got into the act in the mid 80's.  For
> YEARS, their main weapon was the Lee/Enfield SMLE.  The only help they
> got from the US prior to that was our "boycott" of the Moscow
> Olympics.

Yes, someone goes to the movies.
-- 

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being 
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the 
moment of conception until death."  - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

"Billy"  wrote in message 
news:wildbilly-592552.22103509042009@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au...
> In article ,
> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote:
>
>> "Long Ranger"  wrote in message
>> > "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in message
>> >> "Deadrat"  wrote in message
>> >>> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in
>> >>>> "Deadrat"  wrote in message
>> >>>>> R. LaCasse  wrote in
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:47:32 GMT, 10x  wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>|>
>> >>>>>>|>You left out Ruby Ridge, was that deliberate?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Yer Right!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>      "Ruby Ridge" was a complete Laugh in your face and phhhssstttt
>> >>>>>>      all
>> >>>>>> over your breakfast by the "Chin Brained" Police State Mongers......
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>      Read about it, and place yourself as Victim Randy Weaver,
>> >>>>>>      watching
>> >>>>>> your Son get shot in the back by 300 Terrorists, and 300,000 of
>> >>>>>> surveillance equipment.....
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> That's the thing about "Police State Mongers":  they have absolutely
>> >>>>> no sense of humor, and if you try to defy them, then they will kill
>> >>>>> you. Randy Weaver was "Victim" Randy Weaver because he chose to be.
>> >>>>> Successful armed resistance to the authorities is just the daydream
>> >>>>> of gun nuts.  Said authorities are perfectly willing to pry your gun
>> >>>>> from your cold, dead hands.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Koresh is another one.  My understanding is that his weapons
>> >>>>> purchases were all legit.  If he'd allowed himself to be arrested, he
>> >>>>> could have easily shown the charges were bogus.  And no one would
>> >>>>> have burned to death.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Resistance is Futile.
>> >>>
>> >>> You misspelled "Fatal."
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You will comply with ALL Government "requests", especially the
>> >>>> unlawful requests!
>> >>>
>> >>> Armed resistance is futile.
>> >>
>> >> Explain that to Amadou Diallo.
>> >
>> > Tell that to those fucks up in Afghanistan that held off the Russkies for
>> > years with nothing more than WW1 carbines.
>>
>> Tell that to Saddam Hussein and all his "Weapons of Mass Destruction".
>
> Tell that to the 4265 Americans killed in Iraq.

War criminal scum who deserved to die.

"Billy"  wrote in message news:wildbilly-
> In article ,
> "HeyBub"  wrote:
>
>> Martin wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Name one "WAR" that the USA has "lost", poofter.
>> >
>> > Vietnam went really well, Iraq is doing ok I suppose, Afghanistan
>> >  isep, going good, Cuba yep that embargo is working wonders.
>> >
>>
>> The United States concluded a peace treaty with North Vietnam (for which
>> Henry Kissenger got the Nobel Prize). The last American combat soldier left
>> Vietnam more than a year before North Vietnam re-invaded the south. The U.S.
>> did not "lose" the Vietnamese war - at least militarily. At worst, the
>> conflict was a "draw."
>
> What did we get from 60,000 dead Americans, except 2,000,000 dead
> Vietnamese, not to mention the post traumatic stress all around. Did it
> improve your life?
>

Brought lots of excellent Vietnamese restaurants to the U$ that weren't there
before.


>>
>> The South could have prevailed against the War of Northern Aggression but
>> the Democrats in Congress wiped out the funding for the South Vietnamese
>> army some months before the resurgence of the North.
>>
>> We haven't "lost" in Afghanistan. Yet. Come back in a couple of years.
>>
>> The Cuban embargo has been an unqualified success. It has proven that
>> home-made parts for 1955 Chevrolets can keep the beasts running, a skill we
>> may very well need in the coming years.
> -- 
>
> - Billy
> "For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
> is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
> moment of conception until death."  - Rachel Carson
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go
>
> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

"Billy"  wrote in message 
news:wildbilly-A089A9.22164909042009@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au...
> In article
> ,
> audioanimal@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>> On Apr 1, 10:23 am, Deadrat  wrote:
>> > Successful
>> > armed resistance to the authorities is just the daydream of gun nuts. Said
>> > authorities are perfectly willing to pry your gun from your cold, dead
>> > hands.
>> >
>> > Koresh is another one. My understanding is that his weapons purchases were
>> > all legit. If he'd allowed himself to be arrested, he could have easily
>> > shown the charges were bogus. And no one would have burned to death.
>>
>> Except Koresh and his gang of women and children initially did
>> successfully resist.  In fact, they kicked a bunch of ATF ass.
>>
>> At one point the ATF was down to a handful of ammo, and had to
>> retreat.  Had Koresh launched a counter attack, finished them off,
>> then made a strategic retreat into the hands of the local sheriff
>> before the bulk of Fed LEO back-up arrived, he would probably still
>> be
>> alive, along with most of the women and children.
>>
>>
>> Koresh was just too nice for his own good.
>>
>>
>> -AA
>
> Yeah, especially since he had offered to let law enforcement come take a
> look if they liked. The massacre at the Waco compound is the best reason
> I can think of to have a real irritated and armed mob ready to react to
> a police state.

How'd that work out for the Branch Davidians?

"Deadrat"  wrote
> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in
>> "Billy"  wrote in message
>>> audioanimal@my-deja.com wrote:
>>>> On Apr 1, 10:23 am, Deadrat  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Successful
>>>> > armed resistance to the authorities is just the daydream of gun
>>>> > nuts. Said authorities are perfectly willing to pry your gun from
>>>> > your cold, dead hands.
>>>> >
>>>> > Koresh is another one. My understanding is that his weapons
>>>> > purchases were all legit. If he'd allowed himself to be arrested,
>>>> > he could have easily shown the charges were bogus. And no one
>>>> > would have burned to death.
>>>>
>>>> Except Koresh and his gang of women and children initially did
>>>> successfully resist.  In fact, they kicked a bunch of ATF ass.
>>>>
>>>> At one point the ATF was down to a handful of ammo, and had to
>>>> retreat.  Had Koresh launched a counter attack, finished them off,
>>>> then made a strategic retreat into the hands of the local sheriff
>>>> before the bulk of Fed LEO back-up arrived, he would probably still
>>>> be
>>>> alive, along with most of the women and children.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Koresh was just too nice for his own good.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -AA
>>>
>>> Yeah, especially since he had offered to let law enforcement come
>>> take a look if they liked. The massacre at the Waco compound is the
>>> best reason I can think of to have a real irritated and armed mob
>>> ready to react to a police state.
>>
>> How'd that work out for the Branch Davidians?
>
> Well, not so hot for the Brach Davidians,

The cinnamon discs or the circus peanuts?

> but as I recall, the mostly-
> armed populace of Texas rose up in a fury, seceeded from the Union, and
> rejoined Mexico.
>
> No, wait.  That was just a daydream.

The recurring delusion of the Liberkookian Gun-loons.

Insha'allah !