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date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:21:04 -0700,    group: uk.politics.guns        back       
Re: Proof => Gun Nuts ALWAYS Lie !! (was: U.S. Is a Vast Arms Bazaar for Mexican Cartels )   
"slate_leeper"  wrote in message
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:29:08 -0800, "James Hatten" <Mollwitz> wrote:
>
>>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/us/26borders.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&th&emc=th
>>
>>I am sure the tables and tables of grenades that were shown on MSNBC
>>were also bought at U.S. gun shows without background checks too?
>>
>>WTF.
>>
>>Once again the Media lies.
>>
>>And too many Americans are too stupid to discern that.
>>
>
>
> How do they explain the isolated island nation of Jamaica, where no
> firearms are allowed and smuggling should be easy to control?. Yet it
> has a homicide rate in the top 3 in the world.

You're lying again, scumbag.

#1   India: 37,170

#2   Russia: 28,904

#3   Colombia: 26,539

#4   South Africa: 21,553

#5   United States: 16,204

#6   Mexico: 13,144

#7   Venezuela: 8,022

#8   Philippines: 6,553

#9   Thailand: 5,140

#10   Ukraine: 4,418

*
*
*
*
#21   Jamaica: 887
SOURCE: The Eighth United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of 
Criminal Justice Systems (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for 
International Crime Prevention)
date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:21:04 -0700   author:   _ Prof. Jonez _

Re: Proof => Gun Nuts ALWAYS Lie !!   
_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
> "slate_leeper"  wrote in message
>> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:29:08 -0800, "James Hatten" <Mollwitz> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/us/26borders.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&th&emc=th
>>>
>>> I am sure the tables and tables of grenades that were shown on MSNBC
>>> were also bought at U.S. gun shows without background checks too?
>>>
>>> WTF.
>>>
>>> Once again the Media lies.
>>>
>>> And too many Americans are too stupid to discern that.
>>>
>>
>> How do they explain the isolated island nation of Jamaica, where no
>> firearms are allowed and smuggling should be easy to control?. Yet it
>> has a homicide rate in the top 3 in the world.
> 
> You're lying again, scumbag.
> 
> #1   India: 37,170
> 
> #2   Russia: 28,904
> 
> #3   Colombia: 26,539
> 
> #4   South Africa: 21,553
> 
> #5   United States: 16,204
> 
> #6   Mexico: 13,144
> 
> #7   Venezuela: 8,022
> 
> #8   Philippines: 6,553
> 
> #9   Thailand: 5,140
> 
> #10   Ukraine: 4,418
> 
> *
> *
> *
> *
> #21   Jamaica: 887
> SOURCE: The Eighth United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of 
> Criminal Justice Systems (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for 
> International Crime Prevention)

You do understand the word "rate", right? You didn't post rates.
date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:28:10 -0800   author:   Peter Franks

Re: Proof => Gun Nuts ALWAYS Lie !!   
"Klaus Schadenfreude"  wrote in message 
news:0mgeq4djlk65getc20bphr5usqjs63du2u@4ax.com...
> In talk.politics.guns Peter Franks  wrote:
>
>>_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
>>> "slate_leeper"  wrote in message
>>>> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:29:08 -0800, "James Hatten" <Mollwitz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/us/26borders.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&th&emc=th
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sure the tables and tables of grenades that were shown on MSNBC
>>>>> were also bought at U.S. gun shows without background checks too?
>>>>>
>>>>> WTF.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once again the Media lies.
>>>>>
>>>>> And too many Americans are too stupid to discern that.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How do they explain the isolated island nation of Jamaica, where no
>>>> firearms are allowed and smuggling should be easy to control?. Yet it
>>>> has a homicide rate in the top 3 in the world.
>>>
>>> You're lying again, scumbag.
>>>
>>> #1   India: 37,170
>>>
>>> #2   Russia: 28,904
>>>
>>> #3   Colombia: 26,539
>>>
>>> #4   South Africa: 21,553
>>>
>>> #5   United States: 16,204
>>>
>>> #6   Mexico: 13,144
>>>
>>> #7   Venezuela: 8,022
>>>
>>> #8   Philippines: 6,553
>>>
>>> #9   Thailand: 5,140
>>>
>>> #10   Ukraine: 4,418
>>>
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> #21   Jamaica: 887
>>> SOURCE: The Eighth United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations 
>>> of
>>> Criminal Justice Systems (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre 
>>> for
>>> International Crime Prevention)
>>
>>You do understand the word "rate", right? You didn't post rates.
>
> http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita&int=-1
> Rank    Countries   Amount  (top to bottom)
> #1   Colombia: 0.617847 per 1,000 people
> #2   South Africa: 0.496008 per 1,000 people
> #3   Jamaica: 0.324196 per 1,000 people
> #4   Venezuela: 0.316138 per 1,000 people
> #5   Russia: 0.201534 per 1,000 people
> #6   Mexico: 0.130213 per 1,000 people
> #7   Estonia: 0.107277 per 1,000 people
> #8   Latvia: 0.10393 per 1,000 people
> #9   Lithuania: 0.102863 per 1,000 people
> #10   Belarus: 0.0983495 per 1,000 people
>
> These are murder rates, not necessarily by gun.

So utterly irrelevant to the nonsense spewed by the gun-loon slate_leeper
date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:53:13 -0700   author:   _ Prof. Jonez _

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