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date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:40:21 -0700,    group: uk.politics.guns        back       
Re: ammo serial numbers   
Frank S wrote:
> From what I have read, 3 guys in Seattle WA come up with this "idea"
> and the ammo mfgs would not got for it. So, they hired lobbyists to
> do their "dirty work" so they can sell their idea.
> Frank

And you poor pathetic gun-loons and your NRA stooges
couldn't do a damn thing to stop it, could you?


>
> "Paul J. Lewis"  wrote in message
> news:gtU9l.16809$Ws1.14836@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>     Hi Group
>>         this is circulating around my club. I thought you would like
>> to see it. How is it that 18 states started this about the same
>> time? Just a thought.
>>                                                 Paul J
>> I did some follow up checking on the internet and found this article
>> in relation to the Ammunition Coding legislation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kevin Williams
>>
>> Vice President
>>
>>
>>
>> November 26, 2008
>> Special Edition
>>
>>
>> Update on Bullet Serialization
>>
>> During the past week the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF)
>> -- the trade association for the firearms and ammunition industry --
>> has received inquires concerning state legislation that would
>> require the serialization of ammunition on a mass production basis.
>>
>> Bullet serialization -- the process by which each individual round of
>> ammunition is identified and marked with a laser engraved serial
>> number -- is not feasible from a practical standpoint and any
>> legislation mandating such action could rightfully be considered a
>> de facto ban on ammunition.
>>
>> While legislation has been introduced in more than 20 states, NSSF
>> has successfully defeated all of these bills. NSSF will continue to
>> closely monitor state or federal legislation to require bullet
>> serialization and will continue to issue Legislative Alerts to
>> industry members and Second Amendment advocates in those states when
>> bills are introduced or scheduled for a hearing or vote.
>>
>> Demonstrating the effectiveness of the NSSF Legislative Alert system,
>> several bullet serialization bill sponsors withdrew their bills
>> immediately following public outcry stemming from the NSSF alerts --
>> in the case of Kentucky, this was within 48 hours of the bill's
>> introduction.
>>
>> To learn more about bullet serialization, please visit the NSSF Media
>> Resources page.
>>
>> To track bullet serialization legislation, and other legislation in
>> your state, please visit the NSSF Legislative Action Center page.
>>
>> The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the trade
>> association for the firearms industry, has sent you this message.
>> Legislative action alerts and updates are made possible through the
>> generous support NSSF receives from its members. Join NSSF in always
>> shooting for more. Visit www.membershipmeansbusiness.org.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "william a. luongo" 
>> To: CRNGforum@yahoogroups.com
>> Cc: "William a. luongo" 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 9:19:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
>> Eastern Subject: Re: [CRNGforum]  indoor range
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know if I can put a link on the site. This is a link to an
>> interview with Harry Reid, Democratic leader of the senate. I am
>> sure you'll all be please to know that taxes are voluntary.
>> http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=R7mRSI8yWwg
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Chris Leone
>>   To: CRNGforum@yahoogroups.com
>>   Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:13 PM
>>   Subject: RE: [CRNGforum] indoor range
>>
>>
>>
>>   It is time for gun owners to unite.  Pass this around to all that
>> you can.
>>
>>
>>
>>               Ammunition Accountability Act
>>
>>               Did you know anything about this, Pennsylvania is one
>> of the states mentioned.  The gun control liberals got a setback
>> when the Supreme Court upheld the 2nd amendment rights in Wash. DC.
>> Now they are trying to come thru the back door. Please forward this
>> to all you know that want to keep their guns!!!!  Maybe we can start
>> a ground swell, or continue it at least, that will go all over the
>> U.S. and have a positive impact on the outcome.
>>
>>               Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take
>> your guns? Well, it seems that his minions and allies in the
>> anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo!  The bill that
>> is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana)
>> requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a database
>> of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what
>> calibers.  Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless
>> the ammunition is20coded.  Any privately held un-coded ammunition
>> must be destroyed by July 1, 2011.(Including hand loaded ammo.)
>>
>>               They will also charge a.05 cent tax on every round so
>> every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!  If
>> they can deprive you of ammo then they do not need to take your gun!
>>
>>               This legislation is currently pending in 18 states:
>> Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois,
>> Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New
>> York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and
>> Washington. To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring
>> this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to:
>> http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---- 
>>
>>   From: CRNGforum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CRNGforum@yahoogroups.com]
>> On Behalf Of farjen@aol.com
>>   Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:02 AM
>>   To: CRNGforum@yahoogroups.com
>>   Subject: [CRNGforum] indoor range
date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:40:21 -0700   author:   _ Prof. Jonez _

Re: ammo serial numbers   
You still here you fucking crazy rice eating fuck?

"_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in message 
news:6ss4tcF7ntjiU1@mid.individual.net...
> Frank S wrote:
>> From what I have read, 3 guys in Seattle WA come up with this "idea"
>> and the ammo mfgs would not got for it. So, they hired lobbyists to
>> do their "dirty work" so they can sell their idea.
>> Frank
>
> And you poor pathetic gun-loons and your NRA stooges
> couldn't do a damn thing to stop it, could you?
>
>
>>
>> "Paul J. Lewis"  wrote in message
>> news:gtU9l.16809$Ws1.14836@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>     Hi Group
>>>         this is circulating around my club. I thought you would like
>>> to see it. How is it that 18 states started this about the same
>>> time? Just a thought.
>>>                                                 Paul J
>>> I did some follow up checking on the internet and found this article
>>> in relation to the Ammunition Coding legislation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kevin Williams
>>>
>>> Vice President
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> November 26, 2008
>>> Special Edition
>>>
>>>
>>> Update on Bullet Serialization
>>>
>>> During the past week the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF)
>>> -- the trade association for the firearms and ammunition industry --
>>> has received inquires concerning state legislation that would
>>> require the serialization of ammunition on a mass production basis.
>>>
>>> Bullet serialization -- the process by which each individual round of
>>> ammunition is identified and marked with a laser engraved serial
>>> number -- is not feasible from a practical standpoint and any
>>> legislation mandating such action could rightfully be considered a
>>> de facto ban on ammunition.
>>>
>>> While legislation has been introduced in more than 20 states, NSSF
>>> has successfully defeated all of these bills. NSSF will continue to
>>> closely monitor state or federal legislation to require bullet
>>> serialization and will continue to issue Legislative Alerts to
>>> industry members and Second Amendment advocates in those states when
>>> bills are introduced or scheduled for a hearing or vote.
>>>
>>> Demonstrating the effectiveness of the NSSF Legislative Alert system,
>>> several bullet serialization bill sponsors withdrew their bills
>>> immediately following public outcry stemming from the NSSF alerts --
>>> in the case of Kentucky, this was within 48 hours of the bill's
>>> introduction.
>>>
>>> To learn more about bullet serialization, please visit the NSSF Media
>>> Resources page.
>>>
>>> To track bullet serialization legislation, and other legislation in
>>> your state, please visit the NSSF Legislative Action Center page.
>>>
>>> The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the trade
>>> association for the firearms industry, has sent you this message.
>>> Legislative action alerts and updates are made possible through the
>>> generous support NSSF receives from its members. Join NSSF in always
>>> shooting for more. Visit www.membershipmeansbusiness.org.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "william a. luongo" 
>>> To: CRNGforum@yahoogroups.com
>>> Cc: "William a. luongo" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 9:19:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
>>> Eastern Subject: Re: [CRNGforum]  indoor range
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know if I can put a link on the site. This is a link to an
>>> interview with Harry Reid, Democratic leader of the senate. I am
>>> sure you'll all be please to know that taxes are voluntary.
>>> http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=R7mRSI8yWwg
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: Chris Leone
>>>   To: CRNGforum@yahoogroups.com
>>>   Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:13 PM
>>>   Subject: RE: [CRNGforum] indoor range
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   It is time for gun owners to unite.  Pass this around to all that
>>> you can.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>               Ammunition Accountability Act
>>>
>>>               Did you know anything about this, Pennsylvania is one
>>> of the states mentioned.  The gun control liberals got a setback
>>> when the Supreme Court upheld the 2nd amendment rights in Wash. DC.
>>> Now they are trying to come thru the back door. Please forward this
>>> to all you know that want to keep their guns!!!!  Maybe we can start
>>> a ground swell, or continue it at least, that will go all over the
>>> U.S. and have a positive impact on the outcome.
>>>
>>>               Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take
>>> your guns? Well, it seems that his minions and allies in the
>>> anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo!  The bill that
>>> is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana)
>>> requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a database
>>> of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what
>>> calibers.  Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless
>>> the ammunition is20coded.  Any privately held un-coded ammunition
>>> must be destroyed by July 1, 2011.(Including hand loaded ammo.)
>>>
>>>               They will also charge a.05 cent tax on every round so
>>> every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!  If
>>> they can deprive you of ammo then they do not need to take your gun!
>>>
>>>               This legislation is currently pending in 18 states:
>>> Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois,
>>> Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New
>>> York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and
>>> Washington. To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring
>>> this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to:
>>> http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ---- 
>>>
>>>   From: CRNGforum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CRNGforum@yahoogroups.com]
>>> On Behalf Of farjen@aol.com
>>>   Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:02 AM
>>>   To: CRNGforum@yahoogroups.com
>>>   Subject: [CRNGforum] indoor range
>
>
date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 01:31:49 GMT   author:   JackJeckyl

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