Driver with 37 guns detained at LA airport
The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES

A motorist with 30 handguns, seven rifles and fully loaded ammunition magazines 
in his pickup truck was arrested Friday at a vehicle checkpoint as he entered 
Los Angeles International Airport, authorities said.

The weapons and ammunition were in a container in the back of the man's truck, 
which was stopped by Airport Police officers at Century and Sepulveda 
boulevards, a major entrance to the passenger terminals area, said airport 
spokeswoman Nancy Castles.

The man, who did not have any gun on his person, was arrested for investigation 
of weapons transportation violations, Castles said. The man's name was not 
immediately released.

The scene was observed by a KCAL-TV news helicopter overhead.

The FBI, the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and 
Los Angeles Police Department "are currently trying to determine what the 
registration of those weapons are, the manner in which they were carried and if 
there were any violations at this time," Airport Police official Jim Holcomb 
told the station.

Holcomb said there was no indication the man was out to do any harm at the 
airport and was apparently there to pick up someone. "That's being investigated 
right now," Holcomb said.

Airport Police routinely set up vehicle checkpoints at roads leading into the 
airport's central ring roads.

In news:6sq4t5F7k9daU1@mid.individual.net "_ Prof. Jonez _"
 wrote: 

> The weapons and ammunition were in a container in the back of the
> man's truck, 

So, what's the crime, exactly?

-- 
Bert Hyman	St. Paul, MN	bert@iphouse.com

On 10 Jan 2009 00:09:05 GMT, Bert Hyman  wrote:

|>In news:6sq4t5F7k9daU1@mid.individual.net "_ Prof. Jonez _"
|> wrote: 
|>
|>> The weapons and ammunition were in a container in the back of the
|>> man's truck, 
|>
|>So, what's the crime, exactly?

	Well in that area, since he wasn't a cop, he must be a
criminal....and no it doesn't make sense to me either, but there you have
it, .......maybe followup on that too, but there are so many gun related
incidents being liberated from the press.....some are quite funny.....

So, in actual fact, there's no evidence that any crime has been committed 
here.

So what's your point in posting it?

Are you jut a wanker?

-- 
"Those who beat their swords into ploughshares will plough for those who 
didn't".
"_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in message 
news:6sq4t5F7k9daU1@mid.individual.net...
> Driver with 37 guns detained at LA airport
> The Associated Press
>
> LOS ANGELES
>
> A motorist with 30 handguns, seven rifles and fully loaded ammunition 
> magazines in his pickup truck was arrested Friday at a vehicle checkpoint 
> as he entered Los Angeles International Airport, authorities said.
>
> The weapons and ammunition were in a container in the back of the man's 
> truck, which was stopped by Airport Police officers at Century and 
> Sepulveda boulevards, a major entrance to the passenger terminals area, 
> said airport spokeswoman Nancy Castles.
>
> The man, who did not have any gun on his person, was arrested for 
> investigation of weapons transportation violations, Castles said. The 
> man's name was not immediately released.
>
> The scene was observed by a KCAL-TV news helicopter overhead.
>
> The FBI, the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, 
> and Los Angeles Police Department "are currently trying to determine what 
> the registration of those weapons are, the manner in which they were 
> carried and if there were any violations at this time," Airport Police 
> official Jim Holcomb told the station.
>
> Holcomb said there was no indication the man was out to do any harm at the 
> airport and was apparently there to pick up someone. "That's being 
> investigated right now," Holcomb said.
>
> Airport Police routinely set up vehicle checkpoints at roads leading into 
> the airport's central ring roads.
>
>

"R. LaCasse"  wrote in message 
news:2lsfm4lop0v43on84sd16i8oubpoof8qmk@4ax.com...
> On 10 Jan 2009 00:09:05 GMT, Bert Hyman  wrote:
>
> |>In news:6sq4t5F7k9daU1@mid.individual.net "_ Prof. Jonez _"
> |> wrote:
> |>
> |>> The weapons and ammunition were in a container in the back of the
> |>> man's truck,
> |>
> |>So, what's the crime, exactly?
>
> Well in that area, since he wasn't a cop, he must be a
> criminal....

Must he?

Seems to me, that (for all you know) he's a legitimate individual who 
happens to own some firearms on his way to the airport to pick up some mates 
who are going on a hunting trip.

(If you can make shit up, so can I).


-- 
"Those who beat their swords into ploughshares will plough for those who 
didn't".

Bert Hyman wrote:
> In news:6sq4t5F7k9daU1@mid.individual.net "_ Prof. Jonez _"
>  wrote: 
> 
>> The weapons and ammunition were in a container in the back of the
>> man's truck, 
> 
> So, what's the crime, exactly?
> 
Ask the op Jones. He searches everywhere for junk to post on firearms. 
He is crazy.
He never post anything about crimes with knives, rocks, bats, bare 
hands, nor about crimes that were prevented by persons with firearms.
He is a typical British subject, even if he doesn't live there.
I bet he doesn't go out of his house without an armed escort.

Jim wrote:
> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in message
>
>> And if the driver were a "radical muslim" legally resident of the U$,
>> you'd say the same thing, eh numbnuts?
>>
>
> Hw wasn't, so your point, much like your life, is moot.

Your cowardly hypocrisy is noted, scumbag.

Bert Hyman wrote:
> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote:
>
>> The weapons and ammunition were in a container in the back of the
>> man's truck,
>
> So, what's the crime, exactly?

What's the crime of the Guantanamo detainees ?

Jim Yanik wrote:
> "Jim"  wrote in
>> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in message

>>> Driver with 37 guns detained at LA airport
>>> The Associated Press
>>>
>>> LOS ANGELES
>>
>> Unless he was a prohibited person, no crime was committed. No
>> firearms on his person, none in the truck were loaded, wasn't in a
>> security area of the airport.
>>
>> Moron.
>>
>>
>
> sounds like grounds for a wrongful arrest lawsuit.

Sounds like you have no fucking idea what you're talking
about, as usual.

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:27:20 GMT, "Spartan613" 
wrote:

|>> Well in that area, since he wasn't a cop, he must be a
|>> criminal....
|>
|>Must he?
|>
	The reference I made was to show the police state power attitude
over the civilian rights......even shall/may issue ccw permits are rare
there and there is max of 3 guns to register, if your real lucky or an
ex/cop....

|>Seems to me, that (for all you know) he's a legitimate individual who 
|>happens to own some firearms on his way to the airport to pick up some mates 
|>who are going on a hunting trip.
|>
|>(If you can make shit up, so can I).


	Then there's the ( 30 handguns, seven rifles and fully loaded
ammunition magazines in his pickup truck)...does he need that to go
*hunting*, and were can he hunt with a handgun at in LA.

R. LaCasse  wrote in
news:88qhm4tkv049fjq1m9adq9ni4ue2pod5lp@4ax.com: 

> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:27:20 GMT, "Spartan613" 
> wrote:
> 
>|>> Well in that area, since he wasn't a cop, he must be a
>|>> criminal....
>|>
>|>Must he?
>|>
>      The reference I made was to show the police state power attitude
> over the civilian rights......even shall/may issue ccw permits are
> rare there and there is max of 3 guns to register, if your real lucky
> or an ex/cop....

In my state, a CCW is a CCW.  No limit on what guns or how many it 
covers.  Some states require that you can only carry what you qualify 
with...is yours one of those?

>|>Seems to me, that (for all you know) he's a legitimate individual who
>|>happens to own some firearms on his way to the airport to pick up
>|>some mates who are going on a hunting trip.
>|>
>|>(If you can make shit up, so can I).
> 
> 
>      Then there's the ( 30 handguns, seven rifles and fully loaded
> ammunition magazines in his pickup truck)...does he need that to go
> *hunting*, and were can he hunt with a handgun at in LA.

There were actually 16 guns not 37.  Of those 10 were handguns not 30. He 
was going to a target shooting range not going hunting.

"The weapons which included 10 handguns, five rifles and an antique 
black-powder musket were in containers in the back of the 47-year-old 
man's truck that was stopped by airport police at Century and Sepulveda 
boulevards, a major entrance to the passenger terminals area, said 
airport spokeswoman Nancy Castles.

Two of the weapons, a revolver and the musket, were loaded, Holcomb said.

Dominguez's wife, Sue Dominguez, told The Associated Press that her 
husband planned to go target shooting at an outdoor range with a friend 
who he was picking up at the airport. She said she found out about his 
arrest from a television news report and they later spoke on the phone.

She described him as a law-abiding citizen who treats his weapons with 
care.

"The guns are always double-locked. He has all the paperwork and 
everything. He's a fanatic about making it all legal," she said. "He 
didn't lie to the police and he said they were polite and respectful to 
him."

Police initially reported that 37 weapons were found in the truck. 
Castles said that count was an estimate based on the number of containers 
in the truck, which did not all contain weapons.

http://www.pe.com/ap_news/California/CA_Airport_Guns_378903C.shtml

-- 
Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)

http://home.comcast.net/~rdsandman


"Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that 
matter...don't mind...And those that mind...don't matter."

"_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in message 
news:6ss4ncF7rfrnU1@mid.individual.net...
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> "Jim"  wrote in
>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote in message
>
>>>> Driver with 37 guns detained at LA airport
>>>> The Associated Press
>>>>
>>>> LOS ANGELES
>>>
>>> Unless he was a prohibited person, no crime was committed. No
>>> firearms on his person, none in the truck were loaded, wasn't in a
>>> security area of the airport.
>>>
>>> Moron.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> sounds like grounds for a wrongful arrest lawsuit.
>
> Sounds like you have no fucking idea what you're talking
> about, as usual.
>
You are the one shooting from the hip.  You can transport unloaded guns into 
an airport, and even check them as baggage.  You can transport guns in a 
vehicle in CA, unloaded and locked in a container or in the trunk.  You can 
transport "assault weapons" in CA.  There is no limit on the amount of ammo 
you can transport or own in CA.  While guns must be obtained by prevailing 
law, there is no requirement to register the ones you have.

In short, the guy was stopped and raised law enforcement attention.  If he 
was legally transporting unloaded guns, he's getting a bum rap.

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

> Bert Hyman wrote:
> 
>>"_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The weapons and ammunition were in a container in the back of the
>>>man's truck,
>>
>>So, what's the crime, exactly?
> 
> 
> What's the crime of the Guantanamo detainees ?

Who cares?

In article , 
rkba@castle_doctrine.info says...
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:27:20 GMT, "Spartan613" 
> wrote:
> 
> |>> Well in that area, since he wasn't a cop, he must be a
> |>> criminal....
> |>
> |>Must he?
> |>
> 	The reference I made was to show the police state power attitude
> over the civilian rights......even shall/may issue ccw permits are rare
> there and there is max of 3 guns to register, if your real lucky or an
> ex/cop....
> 
> |>Seems to me, that (for all you know) he's a legitimate individual who 
> |>happens to own some firearms on his way to the airport to pick up some mates 
> |>who are going on a hunting trip.
> |>
> |>(If you can make shit up, so can I).
> 
> 
> 	Then there's the ( 30 handguns, seven rifles and fully loaded
> ammunition magazines in his pickup truck)...does he need that to go
> *hunting*, and were can he hunt with a handgun at in LA.
> 
It still doesn't matter.
The only think illegal here is the search and arrest.
You do know that you can carry a weapon into an airport and check it in 
as baggage, right?  Why would they care about anything outside a 
restricted area?

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:16:05 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:

|>R. LaCasse  wrote in
|>news:88qhm4tkv049fjq1m9adq9ni4ue2pod5lp@4ax.com: 
|>
|>> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:27:20 GMT, "Spartan613" 
|>> wrote:
|>> 
|>>|>> Well in that area, since he wasn't a cop, he must be a
|>>|>> criminal....
|>>|>
|>>|>Must he?
|>>|>
|>>      The reference I made was to show the police state power attitude
|>> over the civilian rights......even shall/may issue ccw permits are
|>> rare there and there is max of 3 guns to register, if your real lucky
|>> or an ex/cop....
|>
|>In my state, a CCW is a CCW.  No limit on what guns or how many it 
|>covers.  Some states require that you can only carry what you qualify 
|>with...is yours one of those?
|>

I hate to admit it:

	I live in Canada, were ATCs are usually some employment based
issue, others like a general ccw/ccp are not given to the common
peoples....

	Hell we even have to pass those strict gun tests to purchase guns
and ammo, then more tests at the ranges (what's left of them here since
they closed 13 of them in the last 10 years)
   
	Then we have to get an ATT (Authorization To Transport) for carry
to and from the Ranges...but if you buy a gun you need an additional ATN
(Authorization to pickup Number), which is ALL getting to be a very a bit
much on the paper assed bullshit realm.

	Yeah I have all that and renew every 5 years....if someone fails to
renew ALL that, the Gestappes can come and grab ALL your property, even if
they are delinquent in issuing the Papers....
   
|>>|>Seems to me, that (for all you know) he's a legitimate individual who
|>>|>happens to own some firearms on his way to the airport to pick up
|>>|>some mates who are going on a hunting trip.
|>>|>
|>>|>(If you can make shit up, so can I).
|>> 
|>> 
|>>      Then there's the ( 30 handguns, seven rifles and fully loaded
|>> ammunition magazines in his pickup truck)...does he need that to go
|>> *hunting*, and were can he hunt with a handgun at in LA.
|>
|>There were actually 16 guns not 37.  Of those 10 were handguns not 30. He 
|>was going to a target shooting range not going hunting.
|>
|>"The weapons which included 10 handguns, five rifles and an antique 
|>black-powder musket were in containers in the back of the 47-year-old 
|>man's truck that was stopped by airport police at Century and Sepulveda 
|>boulevards, a major entrance to the passenger terminals area, said 
|>airport spokeswoman Nancy Castles.
|>
|>Two of the weapons, a revolver and the musket, were loaded, Holcomb said.
|>
|>Dominguez's wife, Sue Dominguez, told The Associated Press that her 
|>husband planned to go target shooting at an outdoor range with a friend 
|>who he was picking up at the airport. She said she found out about his 
|>arrest from a television news report and they later spoke on the phone.
|>
|>She described him as a law-abiding citizen who treats his weapons with 
|>care.
|>
|>"The guns are always double-locked. He has all the paperwork and 
|>everything. He's a fanatic about making it all legal," she said. "He 
|>didn't lie to the police and he said they were polite and respectful to 
|>him."
|>
|>Police initially reported that 37 weapons were found in the truck. 
|>Castles said that count was an estimate based on the number of containers 
|>in the truck, which did not all contain weapons.
|>
|>http://www.pe.com/ap_news/California/CA_Airport_Guns_378903C.shtml

	ThanX for the follow-update on that,...it seems the guy was as cool
as cucumber, and should have his property released soon...

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:36:09 -0800, "Wayne" 
wrote:

|>> about, as usual.
|>>
|>You are the one shooting from the hip.  You can transport unloaded guns into 
|>an airport, and even check them as baggage.  You can transport guns in a 
|>vehicle in CA, unloaded and locked in a container or in the trunk.  You can 
|>transport "assault weapons" in CA.  There is no limit on the amount of ammo 
|>you can transport or own in CA.  While guns must be obtained by prevailing 
|>law, there is no requirement to register the ones you have.
|>
|>In short, the guy was stopped and raised law enforcement attention.  If he 
|>was legally transporting unloaded guns, he's getting a bum rap. 

	Sounds quite comparative to Canada, the only difference is the
handgun fear in Canada, whereas a $30 .303 Lee Enfield capable of
committing all kinds of (beyond capture) sniper activities is not
considered dangerous by Canadian Gun Laws.

	I really don't see how handgun crimes are not solved right there
with all the witnesses and immediate noise at the scene..???

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:00:45 -0500, WangoTango 
wrote:

|>In article , 
|>rkba@castle_doctrine.info says...
|>> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:27:20 GMT, "Spartan613" 
|>> wrote:
|>> 
|>> 	Then there's the ( 30 handguns, seven rifles and fully loaded
|>> ammunition magazines in his pickup truck)...does he need that to go
|>> *hunting*, and were can he hunt with a handgun at in LA.
|>> 
|>It still doesn't matter.
|>The only think illegal here is the search and arrest.
|>You do know that you can carry a weapon into an airport and check it in 
|>as baggage, right?  Why would they care about anything outside a 
|>restricted area?

	You got me there,...........also, these spot checks are so numerous
and uncovering a legal gun is such a rush to the police/media, it get's a
lot of attention with a lot disproportionate reportage.

Emma Anzai wrote:
> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
>
>> Bert Hyman wrote:
>>
>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The weapons and ammunition were in a container in the back of the
>>>> man's truck,
>>>
>>> So, what's the crime, exactly?
>>
>>
>> What's the crime of the Guantanamo detainees ?
>
> Who cares?

Your hypocritical immorality is noted.

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:30:50 -0700, "_ Prof. Jonez _" 
wrote:

|>> Who cares?
|>
|>Your hypocritical immorality is noted.

	That's an oxymoron, hypocritical immorality=morality!

R. LaCasse wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:30:50 -0700, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
>  wrote:
>
>>>> Who cares?
>>>
>>> Your hypocritical immorality is noted.
>
> That's an oxymoron, hypocritical immorality=morality!

Your pig-ignorance is noted.

"R. LaCasse"  wrote in message 
news:88qhm4tkv049fjq1m9adq9ni4ue2pod5lp@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:27:20 GMT, "Spartan613" 
> wrote:
>
> |>> Well in that area, since he wasn't a cop, he must be a
> |>> criminal....
> |>
> |>Must he?
> |>
> The reference I made was to show the police state power attitude
> over the civilian rights......even shall/may issue ccw permits are rare
> there and there is max of 3 guns to register, if your real lucky or an
> ex/cop....
>
> |>Seems to me, that (for all you know) he's a legitimate individual who
> |>happens to own some firearms on his way to the airport to pick up some 
> mates
> |>who are going on a hunting trip.
> |>
> |>(If you can make shit up, so can I).
>
>
> Then there's the ( 30 handguns, seven rifles and fully loaded
> ammunition magazines in his pickup truck)...does he need that to go
> *hunting*, and were can he hunt with a handgun at in LA.

Who says he's *staying* in LA?

Like I said, he might have been meeting friends at the airport and taking 
them elsewhere.

Big deal if he had loaded magazines IN THE BACK of his truck. A magazine is 
just a device for storing ammunition.

The point here is, I don't know what his actual intentions were, and neither 
do you.


-- 
"Those who beat their swords into ploughshares will plough for those who 
didn't".

"Spartan613"  wrote in message 
news:6Jbal.9883$cu.6488@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> "R. LaCasse"  wrote in message 
> news:88qhm4tkv049fjq1m9adq9ni4ue2pod5lp@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:27:20 GMT, "Spartan613" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> |>> Well in that area, since he wasn't a cop, he must be a
>> |>> criminal....
>> |>
>> |>Must he?
>> |>
>> The reference I made was to show the police state power attitude
>> over the civilian rights......even shall/may issue ccw permits are rare
>> there and there is max of 3 guns to register, if your real lucky or an
>> ex/cop....
>>
>> |>Seems to me, that (for all you know) he's a legitimate individual who
>> |>happens to own some firearms on his way to the airport to pick up some 
>> mates
>> |>who are going on a hunting trip.
>> |>
>> |>(If you can make shit up, so can I).
>>
>>
>> Then there's the ( 30 handguns, seven rifles and fully loaded
>> ammunition magazines in his pickup truck)...does he need that to go
>> *hunting*, and were can he hunt with a handgun at in LA.
>
> Who says he's *staying* in LA?
>
> Like I said, he might have been meeting friends at the airport and taking 
> them elsewhere.
>
> Big deal if he had loaded magazines IN THE BACK of his truck. A magazine 
> is just a device for storing ammunition.
>
> The point here is, I don't know what his actual intentions were, and 
> neither do you.
-
See article at:
http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_11427154?nclick_check=1

Looks like the guy didn't do anything illegal, unless there are some 
"creative" charges.  Bottom line is that LAPD is trying to do their job and 
have decided to bend the law in the process.

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:41:09 -0700, "_ Prof. Jonez _" 
wrote:

|>>
|>> That's an oxymoron, hypocritical immorality=morality!
|>
|>Your pig-ignorance is noted.

LOL!  
	Your unfounded insulting OT rants are always duly noted!

Bob wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:41:09 -0700, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
>  wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> That's an oxymoron, hypocritical immorality=morality!
>>>
>>> Your pig-ignorance is noted.
>
> LOL!
> Your unfounded insulting OT rants are always duly noted!

So what's the count, eh Gumby?

In article , 
rkba@castle_doctrine.info says...
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:00:45 -0500, WangoTango 
> wrote:
> 
> |>In article , 
> |>rkba@castle_doctrine.info says...
> |>> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:27:20 GMT, "Spartan613" 
> |>> wrote:
> |>> 
> |>> 	Then there's the ( 30 handguns, seven rifles and fully loaded
> |>> ammunition magazines in his pickup truck)...does he need that to go
> |>> *hunting*, and were can he hunt with a handgun at in LA.
> |>> 
> |>It still doesn't matter.
> |>The only think illegal here is the search and arrest.
> |>You do know that you can carry a weapon into an airport and check it in 
> |>as baggage, right?  Why would they care about anything outside a 
> |>restricted area?
> 
> 	You got me there,...........also, these spot checks are so numerous
> and uncovering a legal gun is such a rush to the police/media, it get's a
> lot of attention with a lot disproportionate reportage.

I agree, it becomes a media frenzy and when it is all over, and the cops 
admit that there was nothing illegal about the guns or where they were, 
it doesn't make the news.  You'll be lucky if it is on page 6 of the 
paper in the local news section.  Being found innocent isn't news 
worthy, unless it is about something a cop did.  Then it needs to be 
front page news so the riot can begin.