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date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:49:11 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.politics.guns        back       
Antique gun used in hospital shooting   
It looks like the terminal patient who committed suicide in Northampton 
hospital a few days ago used an antique pistol, probably a single shot 
muzzle loader but the article doesn't say.  So how soon before Labourscum 
try to make political capital out of the tragedy and try to ban the 
ownership of antique firearms?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1080051/Patient-shot-dead-hospital-ward-forced-sell-house-near-wifes-care-home.html
date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:28:23 +0100   author:   Colonel Colt

Re: Antique gun used in hospital shooting   
"Colonel Colt"  wrote in message 
news:1224836903.17471.0@proxy00.news.clara.net...
> It looks like the terminal patient who committed suicide in Northampton 
> hospital a few days ago used an antique pistol, probably a single shot 
> muzzle loader but the article doesn't say.  So how soon before Labourscum 
> try to make political capital out of the tragedy and try to ban the 
> ownership of antique firearms?
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1080051/Patient-shot-dead-hospital-ward-forced-sell-house-near-wifes-care-home.html
>
>

Quite soon.  Legislation exempted antique (>100 yo) firearms, but as the 
Colt 45 (1911?), Lee Enfield 303 and numerous other weapons would soon 
qualify, I would assume this will be changed.
date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:14:14 +0100   author:   R. Mark Clayton

Re: Antique gun used in hospital shooting   
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:14:14 +0100, "R. Mark Clayton"
 wrote:

>
>"Colonel Colt"  wrote in message 
>news:1224836903.17471.0@proxy00.news.clara.net...
>> It looks like the terminal patient who committed suicide in Northampton 
>> hospital a few days ago used an antique pistol, probably a single shot 
>> muzzle loader but the article doesn't say.  So how soon before Labourscum 
>> try to make political capital out of the tragedy and try to ban the 
>> ownership of antique firearms?
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1080051/Patient-shot-dead-hospital-ward-forced-sell-house-near-wifes-care-home.html
>>
>>
>
>Quite soon.  Legislation exempted antique (>100 yo) firearms, but as the 
>Colt 45 (1911?), Lee Enfield 303 and numerous other weapons would soon 
>qualify, I would assume this will be changed. 
>

I thought it was more to do with obsolete calibres than age.
date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:59:59 +0100   author:   Keith2.0

Re: Antique gun used in hospital shooting   
"R. Mark Clayton"  wrote in message 
news:m9adnbB6r_1by5_UnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> Quite soon.  Legislation exempted antique (>100 yo) firearms, but as the 
> Colt 45 (1911?), Lee Enfield 303 and numerous other weapons would soon 
> qualify, I would assume this will be changed.
The Mail report was inaccurate in its description of 'exempt' firearms.  Any 
antique firearm that is held as a curio or ornament is exempt from 
licensing.  The law doesn't define what is an antique.  Currently case law 
would say that a John Adams revolver made in 1870 chambered for 450 Boxer is 
s5 prohibited but that a Colt New Service made in 1903 and chambered for 44 
Russian is an antique and no paperwork is required for possession.  44 
Russian is counted as an obsolete cartridge; 450 Boxer isn't.

Since there are hundreds of millions of pounds invested in antique firearms, 
if Labourscum tried to ban and/or destroy them, it will face the mother of 
all fights in court.
date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:07:44 +0100   author:   Colonel Colt

Anti Gun Crusader Pat Regan Stabbed to Death   
(Britain) Pat Regan, who founded Mothers Against Violence was murdered
with a knife today. (June 2nd, 2008)

Pat Regan founded Mothers Against Violence after her son was shot to
death by a criminal. Unfortunately she focused her pain and grief upon
inanimate objects (guns) rather than the true cause of her son’s death
(the intentional actions of a criminal). She then set out to disarm
Brittan’s citizens with strict gun control laws.

I would like to express my sympathy to Pat Regan’s family. Any loss of
life is tragic, but this murder is all the more saddening given the
fact that she might have been able to defend herself, had she had a
gun. Unfortunately, Pat Regan chose to blame guns for the death of her
son and fight to disarm England’s law abiding citizens, including
herself. Since only law abiding citizens obey laws, Pat was without a
gun and unable to prevent her own murder, just as many women have been
left defenseless in the wake of gun control.

After decades of failed gun control, it really should be apparent that
criminals ignore laws — indeed that is what makes them criminals. They
will ignore gun control laws just as they will ignore the laws against
murder, rape, robbery, etc. Gun control laws are pointless and
ineffective, serving only to leave law abiding citizens such as Pat
Regan defenseless. Equally apparent is the fact that armed citizens
can and do stop criminals every day, saving countless lives.

http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008/06/02/anti-gun-crusader-pat-regan-stabbed-to-death/
date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:49:11 -0700 (PDT)   author:   tg

Re: Anti Gun Crusader Pat Regan Stabbed to Death   
Wow, I guess the average woman *can't* go toe-to-toe with a knife-wielding 
criminal.

Fancy that.


Regards, PLMerite


-- 
"Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to
clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are
so stupid it is easy work."  Steven M. Barry



"tg"  wrote in message 
news:46890722-c519-47bd-8e0f-497efcedd512@64g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
(Britain) Pat Regan, who founded Mothers Against Violence was murdered
with a knife today. (June 2nd, 2008)

Pat Regan founded Mothers Against Violence after her son was shot to
death by a criminal. Unfortunately she focused her pain and grief upon
inanimate objects (guns) rather than the true cause of her son’s death
(the intentional actions of a criminal). She then set out to disarm
Brittan’s citizens with strict gun control laws.

I would like to express my sympathy to Pat Regan’s family. Any loss of
life is tragic, but this murder is all the more saddening given the
fact that she might have been able to defend herself, had she had a
gun. Unfortunately, Pat Regan chose to blame guns for the death of her
son and fight to disarm England’s law abiding citizens, including
herself. Since only law abiding citizens obey laws, Pat was without a
gun and unable to prevent her own murder, just as many women have been
left defenseless in the wake of gun control.

After decades of failed gun control, it really should be apparent that
criminals ignore laws — indeed that is what makes them criminals. They
will ignore gun control laws just as they will ignore the laws against
murder, rape, robbery, etc. Gun control laws are pointless and
ineffective, serving only to leave law abiding citizens such as Pat
Regan defenseless. Equally apparent is the fact that armed citizens
can and do stop criminals every day, saving countless lives.

http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008/06/02/anti-gun-crusader-pat-regan-stabbed-to-death/
date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:20:17 GMT   author:   PLMerite

Re: Anti Gun Crusader Pat Regan Stabbed to Death   
"PLMerite"  wrote in message 
news:kgqNk.175758$ZW7.90863@fe10.news.easynews.com...
>
>
>
> Wow, I guess the average woman *can't* go toe-to-toe with a knife-wielding 
> criminal.

Or maybe she wouldn't have had the heart to shoot her grandson. Doubtless 
you keep you gun handy to shoot family members who behave suspiciously.

>
> Fancy that.
>
>
> Regards, PLMerite
>
>
> -- 
> "Confronting gunloons  with the facts of reality is very much akin to
> clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because gun loons 
> are
> so stupid it is easy work."  Me
date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:47:30 GMT   author:   Blinky Bill

Re: Anti Gun Crusader Pat Regan Stabbed to Death   
"Blinky Bill"  wrote in message 
news:SFqNk.8919$sc2.1668@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "PLMerite"  wrote in message 
> news:kgqNk.175758$ZW7.90863@fe10.news.easynews.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> Wow, I guess the average woman *can't* go toe-to-toe with a 
>> knife-wielding criminal.
>
> Or maybe she wouldn't have had the heart to shoot her grandson. Doubtless 
> you keep you gun handy to shoot family members who behave suspiciously.


Too bad for people who won't defend themselves.  Self-defense is the 
ultimate human right, to not be assaulted by individuals or government.

Me, I don't have any crazy relatives, which is more than your family members 
can say.

I keep my weapons loaded and ready for home invasions by members of the 
Democrat base.


>> Fancy that.
>>
>>
>> Regards, PLMerite
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> "Confronting gunloons  with the facts of reality is very much akin to
>> clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because gun loons 
>> are
>> so stupid it is easy work."  Me


Good luck with that.


Regards, PLMerite


-- 

"Whether they admit it or not, the Democrats need lawbreakers such as
illegal aliens -- who are being illegally registered as Democrats -- and
killers, rapists and robbers in order to increase their base of far-left
voters."  Mike Baker, political strategist and pollster.
date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:16:51 GMT   author:   PLMerite

Re: Anti Gun Crusader Pat Regan Stabbed to Death   
tg wrote:
> (Britain) Pat Regan, who founded Mothers Against Violence was murdered
> with a knife today. (June 2nd, 2008)
> 
> Pat Regan founded Mothers Against Violence after her son was shot to
> death by a criminal. Unfortunately she focused her pain and grief upon
> inanimate objects (guns) rather than the true cause of her son’s death
> (the intentional actions of a criminal). She then set out to disarm
> Brittan’s citizens with strict gun control laws.
> 
> I would like to express my sympathy to Pat Regan’s family. Any loss of
> life is tragic, but this murder is all the more saddening given the
> fact that she might have been able to defend herself, had she had a
> gun. Unfortunately, Pat Regan chose to blame guns for the death of her
> son and fight to disarm England’s law abiding citizens, including
> herself. Since only law abiding citizens obey laws, Pat was without a
> gun and unable to prevent her own murder, just as many women have been
> left defenseless in the wake of gun control.
> 
> After decades of failed gun control, it really should be apparent that
> criminals ignore laws — indeed that is what makes them criminals. They
> will ignore gun control laws just as they will ignore the laws against
> murder, rape, robbery, etc. Gun control laws are pointless and
> ineffective, serving only to leave law abiding citizens such as Pat
> Regan defenseless. Equally apparent is the fact that armed citizens
> can and do stop criminals every day, saving countless lives.
> 
> http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008/06/02/anti-gun-crusader-pat-regan-stabbed-to-death/
> 

I'm sorry but I can't say I'm sorry just like I won't be able to say I'm 
sorry when the Bitch Sarah Brady meets her end.
date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:33:21 -0500   author:   John Wayne

Re: Anti Gun Crusader Pat Regan Stabbed to Death   
On 2008-10-27 23:16:51 +0000, "PLMerite"  said:

> 
> "Blinky Bill"  wrote in message
> news:SFqNk.8919$sc2.1668@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> 
>> "PLMerite"  wrote in message
>> news:kgqNk.175758$ZW7.90863@fe10.news.easynews.com...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Wow, I guess the average woman *can't* go toe-to-toe with a
>>> knife-wielding criminal.
>> 
>> Or maybe she wouldn't have had the heart to shoot her grandson. Doubtless
>> you keep you gun handy to shoot family members who behave suspiciously.
> 
> 
> Too bad for people who won't defend themselves.  Self-defense is the
> ultimate human right, to not be assaulted by individuals or government.
> 
> Me, I don't have any crazy relatives,

Too bad none of your relatives can say the same thing.

<hugs>
date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:16:04 +0000   author:   mother

Re: Anti Gun Crusader Pat Regan Stabbed to Death   
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:47:30 GMT, "Blinky Bill" 
wrote:

>
>"PLMerite"  wrote in message 
>news:kgqNk.175758$ZW7.90863@fe10.news.easynews.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> Wow, I guess the average woman *can't* go toe-to-toe with a knife-wielding 
>> criminal.
>
>Or maybe she wouldn't have had the heart to shoot her grandson. Doubtless 
>you keep you gun handy to shoot family members who behave suspiciously.


And only blinkydummy would describe someone who attacks with a knife -
family member or not - as behaving "suspiciously".  Every time he
posts, blinkydummy exceeds his previous idiocy.


>
>>
>> Fancy that.
>>
>>
>> Regards, PLMerite
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> "Confronting gunloons  with the facts of reality is very much akin to
>> clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because gun loons 
>> are
>> so stupid it is easy work."  Me
date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:21:16 GMT   author:   unknown

Re: Anti Gun Crusader Pat Regan Stabbed to Death   
"PLMerite"  wrote in message 
news:CZrNk.161525$9s3.88708@fe07.news.easynews.com...
>
> "Blinky Bill"  wrote in message 
> news:SFqNk.8919$sc2.1668@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "PLMerite"  wrote in message 
>> news:kgqNk.175758$ZW7.90863@fe10.news.easynews.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Wow, I guess the average woman *can't* go toe-to-toe with a 
>>> knife-wielding criminal.
>>
>> Or maybe she wouldn't have had the heart to shoot her grandson. Doubtless 
>> you keep you gun handy to shoot family members who behave suspiciously.
>
>
> Too bad for people who won't defend themselves.

So you do keep a gun handy to kill any family members who behave 
suspiciously.

>  Self-defense is the ultimate human right, to not be assaulted by 
> individuals or government.
>
> Me, I don't have any crazy relatives,

Okay,  it's just you who is crazy I'm glad we settled that.

>which is more than your family members  can say.

And yours.

> I keep my weapons loaded and ready for home invasions by members of the 
> Democrat base.

Statistically, you are more likely to be killed or assaulted by a family 
member.

>>> "Confronting gunloons  with the facts of reality is very much akin to
>>> clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because gun loons 
>>> are
>>> so stupid it is easy work."  Me
>
>
> Good luck with that.

Going very well so far.
date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:38:00 GMT   author:   Blinky Bill

Re: Anti Gun Crusader Pat Regan Stabbed to Death   
"Blinky Bill"  wrote in message 
news:Y1uNk.8962$sc2.1928@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "PLMerite"  wrote in message 
> news:CZrNk.161525$9s3.88708@fe07.news.easynews.com...
>>
>> "Blinky Bill"  wrote in message 
>> news:SFqNk.8919$sc2.1668@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> "PLMerite"  wrote in message 
>>> news:kgqNk.175758$ZW7.90863@fe10.news.easynews.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow, I guess the average woman *can't* go toe-to-toe with a 
>>>> knife-wielding criminal.
>>>
>>> Or maybe she wouldn't have had the heart to shoot her grandson. 
>>> Doubtless you keep you gun handy to shoot family members who behave 
>>> suspiciously.
>>
>>
>> Too bad for people who won't defend themselves.
>
> So you do keep a gun handy to kill any family members who behave 
> suspiciously.


Whatever the source, self defense is self defense.


>>  Self-defense is the ultimate human right, to not be assaulted by 
>> individuals or government.
>>
>> Me, I don't have any crazy relatives,
>
> Okay,  it's just you who is crazy I'm glad we settled that.




Whatever works in your own mind.




>>which is more than your family members  can say.
>
> And yours.
>
>> I keep my weapons loaded and ready for home invasions by members of the 
>> Democrat base.
>
> Statistically, you are more likely to be killed or assaulted by a family 
> member.


Even more so if you live in an area with a high percentage of democrats.

I bet if someone crunched the numbers, they'd find that being a democrat or 
being governed by them is more dangerous than owning a gun.



>>>> "Confronting gunloons  with the facts of reality is very much akin to
>>>> clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because gun 
>>>> loons are
>>>> so stupid it is easy work."  Me
>>
>>
>> Good luck with that.
>
> Going very well so far.


Yeah, have fun.


Regards, PLMerite


-- 

''Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the 
revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at."
 - Bill Ayers, a friend of Barack Hussein Obama.
date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:47:09 GMT   author:   PLMerite

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