This seems to be first report in the MSM (a blog).

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100011716/how-the-global-warming-industry-is-based-on-one-massive-lie/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/27/quote-of-the-week-20-ding-dong-the-stick-is-dead/

By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: September 29th, 2009

For the growing band of AGW "Sceptics" the following story is dynamite. And for those who do
believe in Al Gore's highly profitable myth about "Man-Made Global Warming", it will no doubt feel
as comfortable as the rectally inserted suicide bomb that put paid to an Al Qaeda operative earlier
this week.

Now read on.

Those of you who saw An Inconvenient Truth  may remember, if you weren't asleep by that stage, the
key scene where big green Al deploys his terrifying graph to show how totally screwed we all are by
man-made global warming. This graph - known as the Hockey Stick Curve - purports to show rising
global temperatures through the ages. In the part representing the late twentieth century it shoots
up almost vertically. To emphasise his point that this is serious and that if we don't act NOW 
we're
doomed, Al Gore - wearing a wry smile which says: "Sure folks, this is kinda funny. But don't
forget how serious it is too" - climbs on to a mini-lift in order to be able to reach the top of
the chart. Cue consensual gasps from his parti pris audience.

Except that the graph - devised in 1998 by a US climatologist called Dr Michael Mann -  is based on
a huge lie, as Sceptics have been saying for quite some time. The first thing they noticed is that
this "Hockey Stick" (based on tree ring data, one of the most accurate ways of recording how
climate changes over the centuries) is that it seemed completely to omit the Medieval Warming
Period.

According to Mann's graph, the hottest period in modern history was NOT the generally balmy era
between 900 and 1300 but the late 20th century. This led many sceptics, among them a Canadian
mathematician named Steve McIntyre to smell a rat. He tried to replicate Mann's tree ring work but
was stymied by lack of data: ie the global community of climate-fear-promotion scientists closed
ranks and refused to provide him with any information that might contradict their cause.

This is the point where British climate change scientists appear - and in a most unedifying light.
As Christopher Booker has reported the Met Office, its Hadley Centre in Exeter and the Climate
Research Unit (CRU) at University of East Anglia are among the primary drivers of global climate
change alarmism. Their data has formed the basis for the IPCC's "we're all doomed" reports; their
scientists - among them Professor Phil Jones and tree ring expert Professor Keith Briffa - have
been doughty supporters of Mann's Hockey Stick theory and of the computer models showing inexorably
rising temperatures.

Hence their misleading predictions of that "barbecue summer" we never had. As Booker says: "Part of
the reason why the Met Office has made such a mess of its forecasts for Britain is that they are
based on the same models which failed to predict the declining trend in world temperatures since
2001.

When McIntyre approached the Met Office and the CRU for more information they refused, claiming
implausibly that it would damage Britain's "international relations" with all the countries that
supplied it. Later they went a step further and claimed the data had been mislaid.

And there McIntyre's efforts to uncover the mystery of the Hockey Stick might have ended, had he
not had a stroke of luck, as Chris Horner explains at Planet Gore.

"Years go by. McIntyre is still stymied trying to get access to the original source data so that he
can replicate the Mann 1998 conclusion. In 2008 Mann publishes another paper in bolstering his tree
ring claim due to all of the controversy surrounding it. A Mann co-author and source of tree ring
data (Professor Keith Briffa of the Hadley UK Climate Research Unit) used one of the tree ring data
series (Yamal in Russia) in a paper published in the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal
Society in 2008, which has a strict data archiving policy. Thanks to that policy, Steve McIntyre
fought and won access to that data just last week."

This sounds esoteric, but here's the important bit: what McIntyre discovered was that Professor
Briffa had cherry picked his "tree data sets" in order to reach the conclusion he wanted to reach.
When, however, McIntyre plotted in a much larger and more representative range of samples from
exactly the same area, the results he got were startlingly different.

Have a look at the graph at Climate Audit (which broke the story and has been so inundated with
hits that its server was almost overwhelmed) and see for yourself.

http://www.climateaudit.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/rcs_chronologies_rev2.gif

The scary red line shooting upwards is the one Al Gore, Michael Mann, Keith Briffa and their
climate-fear-promotion chums would like you to believe in. The black one, heading downwards,
represents scientific reality.

We "Global Warming Deniers" are often accused of ignoring the weight of scientific opinion. Well if
the "science" on which they base their theories is as shoddy as Mann's Hockey Stick, is it any
wonder we think they're talking cobblers?

Tags: climate change, dead as a Dodo, Hockey Stick, load of cobblers, Michael Mann

The Register just published a good article with lots of graphs. Below is summary.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/29/yamal_scandal/print.html

What went wrong?
The scandal has serious implications for public trust in science. The IPCC's mission is to reflect 
the science, not create it.

As the panel states, its duty is "assessing the scientific, technical and socioeconomic information 
relevant for the understanding of the risk of human-induced climate change. It does not carry out 
new research nor does it monitor climate-related data." But as lead author, Briffa was a key 
contributor in shaping (no pun intended) the assessment.

When the IPCC was alerted to peer-reviewed research that refuted the idea, it declined to include 
it. This leads to the more general, and more serious issue: what happens when peer-review fails - 
as it did here?

The scandal has only come to light because of the dogged persistence of a Canadian mathematician 
who attempted to reproduce the results. Steve McIntyre has written dozens of letters requesting the 
data and methodology, and over 7,000 blog posts. Yet Yamal has remained elusive for almost a 
decade. ®

Eric Gisin wrote:
> This seems to be first report in the MSM (a blog).
>
> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100011716/how-the-global-warming-industry-is-based-on-one-massive-lie/
> http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/27/quote-of-the-week-20-ding-dong-the-stick-is-dead/
>
> By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: September 29th, 2009
>
> For the growing band of AGW "Sceptics" the following story is
> dynamite. And for those who do believe in Al Gore's highly profitable
> myth about "Man-Made Global Warming", it will no doubt feel as
> comfortable as the rectally inserted suicide bomb that put paid to an
> Al Qaeda operative earlier this week.
> Now read on.
>
> Those of you who saw An Inconvenient Truth  may remember, if you
> weren't asleep by that stage, the key scene where big green Al
> deploys his terrifying graph to show how totally screwed we all are
> by man-made global warming. This graph - known as the Hockey Stick
> Curve - purports to show rising global temperatures through the ages.
> In the part representing the late twentieth century it shoots up
> almost vertically. To emphasise his point that this is serious and
> that if we don't act NOW we're  doomed, Al Gore - wearing a wry smile 
> which says: "Sure folks, this
> is kinda funny. But don't forget how serious it is too" - climbs on
> to a mini-lift in order to be able to reach the top of the chart. Cue
> consensual gasps from his parti pris audience.
> Except that the graph - devised in 1998 by a US climatologist called
> Dr Michael Mann -  is based on a huge lie

  Same bullshit, different day.

  Hockey sticks from other sources are now a dime a dozen.

On Sep 29, 1:09 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
> Eric Gisin wrote:
> > This seems to be first report in the MSM (a blog).
>
> >http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100011716/how-the-g...
> >http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/27/quote-of-the-week-20-ding-dong-...
>
> > By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: September 29th, 2009
>
> > For the growing band of AGW "Sceptics" the following story is
> > dynamite. And for those who do believe in Al Gore's highly profitable
> > myth about "Man-Made Global Warming", it will no doubt feel as
> > comfortable as the rectally inserted suicide bomb that put paid to an
> > Al Qaeda operative earlier this week.
> > Now read on.
>
> > Those of you who saw An Inconvenient Truth  may remember, if you
> > weren't asleep by that stage, the key scene where big green Al
> > deploys his terrifying graph to show how totally screwed we all are
> > by man-made global warming. This graph - known as the Hockey Stick
> > Curve - purports to show rising global temperatures through the ages.
> > In the part representing the late twentieth century it shoots up
> > almost vertically. To emphasise his point that this is serious and
> > that if we don't act NOW we're  doomed, Al Gore - wearing a wry smile
> > which says: "Sure folks, this
> > is kinda funny. But don't forget how serious it is too" - climbs on
> > to a mini-lift in order to be able to reach the top of the chart. Cue
> > consensual gasps from his parti pris audience.
> > Except that the graph - devised in 1998 by a US climatologist called
> > Dr Michael Mann -  is based on a huge lie
>
>   Same bullshit, different day.
>
>   Hockey sticks from other sources are now a dime a dozen.

Cite? This time I insist. Either cite or GFY.

tunderbar wrote:
> On Sep 29, 1:09 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
>> Eric Gisin wrote:
>>> This seems to be first report in the MSM (a blog).
>>
>>> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100011716/how-the-g...
>>> http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/27/quote-of-the-week-20-ding-dong-...
>>
>>> By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: September 29th, 2009
>>
>>> For the growing band of AGW "Sceptics" the following story is
>>> dynamite. And for those who do believe in Al Gore's highly
>>> profitable myth about "Man-Made Global Warming", it will no doubt
>>> feel as comfortable as the rectally inserted suicide bomb that put
>>> paid to an Al Qaeda operative earlier this week.
>>> Now read on.
>>
>>> Those of you who saw An Inconvenient Truth may remember, if you
>>> weren't asleep by that stage, the key scene where big green Al
>>> deploys his terrifying graph to show how totally screwed we all are
>>> by man-made global warming. This graph - known as the Hockey Stick
>>> Curve - purports to show rising global temperatures through the
>>> ages. In the part representing the late twentieth century it shoots
>>> up almost vertically. To emphasise his point that this is serious
>>> and that if we don't act NOW we're doomed, Al Gore - wearing a wry
>>> smile which says: "Sure folks, this
>>> is kinda funny. But don't forget how serious it is too" - climbs on
>>> to a mini-lift in order to be able to reach the top of the chart.
>>> Cue consensual gasps from his parti pris audience.
>>> Except that the graph - devised in 1998 by a US climatologist called
>>> Dr Michael Mann - is based on a huge lie
>>
>> Same bullshit, different day.
>>
>> Hockey sticks from other sources are now a dime a dozen.
>
> Cite? This time I insist. Either cite or GFY.

  And when I do, you will take a hike, correct?  Let me know.

On Sep 29, 11:09 am, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
> Eric Gisin wrote:
> > This seems to be first report in the MSM (a blog).
>
> >http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100011716/how-the-g...
> >http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/27/quote-of-the-week-20-ding-dong-...
>
> > By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: September 29th, 2009
>
> > For the growing band of AGW "Sceptics" the following story is
> > dynamite. And for those who do believe in Al Gore's highly profitable
> > myth about "Man-Made Global Warming", it will no doubt feel as
> > comfortable as the rectally inserted suicide bomb that put paid to an
> > Al Qaeda operative earlier this week.
> > Now read on.
>
> > Those of you who saw An Inconvenient Truth  may remember, if you
> > weren't asleep by that stage, the key scene where big green Al
> > deploys his terrifying graph to show how totally screwed we all are
> > by man-made global warming. This graph - known as the Hockey Stick
> > Curve - purports to show rising global temperatures through the ages.
> > In the part representing the late twentieth century it shoots up
> > almost vertically. To emphasise his point that this is serious and
> > that if we don't act NOW we're  doomed, Al Gore - wearing a wry smile
> > which says: "Sure folks, this
> > is kinda funny. But don't forget how serious it is too" - climbs on
> > to a mini-lift in order to be able to reach the top of the chart. Cue
> > consensual gasps from his parti pris audience.
> > Except that the graph - devised in 1998 by a US climatologist called
> > Dr Michael Mann -  is based on a huge lie
>
>   Same bullshit, different day.
>
>   Hockey sticks from other sources are now a dime a dozen.

And that's about what they are worth.

Only AGW alarmists like Oudorous believe in the Hockey Stick myth.
Correct graphs of the last 1000 don't look like hockey sticks, they look like climate variation.

"Ouroboros Rex"  wrote in message news:h9tigb02gc3@news1.newsguy.com...
> 
>  Same bullshit, different day.
> 
>  Hockey sticks from other sources are now a dime a dozen. 
> 
>

Eric Gisin wrote:
> Only AGW alarmists like Oudorous believe in the Hockey Stick myth.

  Yep - and every scientific organization on earth.


> Correct graphs of the last 1000 don't look like hockey sticks, they
> look like climate variation.

  Cite, please.


>
> "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote in message
> news:h9tigb02gc3@news1.newsguy.com...
>>
>>  Same bullshit, different day.
>>
>>  Hockey sticks from other sources are now a dime a dozen.

On Sep 29, 1:36 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
> tunderbar wrote:
> > On Sep 29, 1:09 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
> >> Eric Gisin wrote:
> >>> This seems to be first report in the MSM (a blog).
>
> >>>http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100011716/how-the-g.> >>>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/27/quote-of-the-week-20-ding-dong-.> >>> By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: September 29th, 2009
>
> >>> For the growing band of AGW "Sceptics" the following story is
> >>> dynamite. And for those who do believe in Al Gore's highly
> >>> profitable myth about "Man-Made Global Warming", it will no doubt
> >>> feel as comfortable as the rectally inserted suicide bomb that put
> >>> paid to an Al Qaeda operative earlier this week.
> >>> Now read on.
>
> >>> Those of you who saw An Inconvenient Truth may remember, if you
> >>> weren't asleep by that stage, the key scene where big green Al
> >>> deploys his terrifying graph to show how totally screwed we all are
> >>> by man-made global warming. This graph - known as the Hockey Stick
> >>> Curve - purports to show rising global temperatures through the
> >>> ages. In the part representing the late twentieth century it shoots
> >>> up almost vertically. To emphasise his point that this is serious
> >>> and that if we don't act NOW we're doomed, Al Gore - wearing a wry
> >>> smile which says: "Sure folks, this
> >>> is kinda funny. But don't forget how serious it is too" - climbs on
> >>> to a mini-lift in order to be able to reach the top of the chart.
> >>> Cue consensual gasps from his parti pris audience.
> >>> Except that the graph - devised in 1998 by a US climatologist called
> >>> Dr Michael Mann - is based on a huge lie
>
> >> Same bullshit, different day.
>
> >> Hockey sticks from other sources are now a dime a dozen.
>
> > Cite? This time I insist. Either cite or GFY.
>
>   And when I do, you will take a hike, correct?  Let me know.

Absolutely. Show be cites from proven-independent non-eco-activist
peer-reviewed unassailable science to support the hockey stick theory,
I will take a hike and stop posting forever. But one, you are too lazy
and stupid to do that and two, it does not exist in the worlds
scientific literature. The hockey stick is DEAD. RIP.

tunderbar wrote:
> On Sep 29, 1:36 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
>> tunderbar wrote:
>>> On Sep 29, 1:09 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
>>>> Eric Gisin wrote:
>>>>> This seems to be first report in the MSM (a blog).
>>
>>>>> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100011716/how-the-g...
>>>>> http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/27/quote-of-the-week-20-ding-dong-...
>>
>>>>> By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: September 29th, 2009
>>
>>>>> For the growing band of AGW "Sceptics" the following story is
>>>>> dynamite. And for those who do believe in Al Gore's highly
>>>>> profitable myth about "Man-Made Global Warming", it will no doubt
>>>>> feel as comfortable as the rectally inserted suicide bomb that put
>>>>> paid to an Al Qaeda operative earlier this week.
>>>>> Now read on.
>>
>>>>> Those of you who saw An Inconvenient Truth may remember, if you
>>>>> weren't asleep by that stage, the key scene where big green Al
>>>>> deploys his terrifying graph to show how totally screwed we all
>>>>> are by man-made global warming. This graph - known as the Hockey
>>>>> Stick Curve - purports to show rising global temperatures through
>>>>> the ages. In the part representing the late twentieth century it
>>>>> shoots up almost vertically. To emphasise his point that this is
>>>>> serious and that if we don't act NOW we're doomed, Al Gore -
>>>>> wearing a wry smile which says: "Sure folks, this
>>>>> is kinda funny. But don't forget how serious it is too" - climbs
>>>>> on to a mini-lift in order to be able to reach the top of the
>>>>> chart. Cue consensual gasps from his parti pris audience.
>>>>> Except that the graph - devised in 1998 by a US climatologist
>>>>> called Dr Michael Mann - is based on a huge lie
>>
>>>> Same bullshit, different day.
>>
>>>> Hockey sticks from other sources are now a dime a dozen.
>>
>>> Cite? This time I insist. Either cite or GFY.
>>
>> And when I do, you will take a hike, correct? Let me know.
>
> Absolutely. Show be cites from proven-independent non-eco-activist
> peer-reviewed unassailable science to support the hockey stick theory,

  Ah, moving the goalposts I see.  lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png

  Ten different hockey sticks.  Where are your lie articles about those? 
lol

  Continue shrieking!

On Sep 29, 2:16 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
> tunderbar wrote:
> > On Sep 29, 1:36 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
> >> tunderbar wrote:
> >>> On Sep 29, 1:09 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
> >>>> Eric Gisin wrote:
> >>>>> This seems to be first report in the MSM (a blog).
>
> >>>>>http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100011716/how-the-g...
> >>>>>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/27/quote-of-the-week-20-ding-dong> >>>>> By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: September 29th, 2009
>
> >>>>> For the growing band of AGW "Sceptics" the following story is
> >>>>> dynamite. And for those who do believe in Al Gore's highly
> >>>>> profitable myth about "Man-Made Global Warming", it will no doubt
> >>>>> feel as comfortable as the rectally inserted suicide bomb that put
> >>>>> paid to an Al Qaeda operative earlier this week.
> >>>>> Now read on.
>
> >>>>> Those of you who saw An Inconvenient Truth may remember, if you
> >>>>> weren't asleep by that stage, the key scene where big green Al
> >>>>> deploys his terrifying graph to show how totally screwed we all
> >>>>> are by man-made global warming. This graph - known as the Hockey
> >>>>> Stick Curve - purports to show rising global temperatures through
> >>>>> the ages. In the part representing the late twentieth century it
> >>>>> shoots up almost vertically. To emphasise his point that this is
> >>>>> serious and that if we don't act NOW we're doomed, Al Gore -
> >>>>> wearing a wry smile which says: "Sure folks, this
> >>>>> is kinda funny. But don't forget how serious it is too" - climbs
> >>>>> on to a mini-lift in order to be able to reach the top of the
> >>>>> chart. Cue consensual gasps from his parti pris audience.
> >>>>> Except that the graph - devised in 1998 by a US climatologist
> >>>>> called Dr Michael Mann - is based on a huge lie
>
> >>>> Same bullshit, different day.
>
> >>>> Hockey sticks from other sources are now a dime a dozen.
>
> >>> Cite? This time I insist. Either cite or GFY.
>
> >> And when I do, you will take a hike, correct? Let me know.
>
> > Absolutely. Show be cites from proven-independent non-eco-activist
> > peer-reviewed unassailable science to support the hockey stick theory,
>
>   Ah, moving the goalposts I see.  lol
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png
>
>   Ten different hockey sticks.  Where are your lie articles about those?
> lol
>
>   Continue shrieking!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

That fuck brain called tunderbar expects absolute perfection from us
who except the facts about AGW

Eric Gisin wrote:
> This seems to be first report in the MSM (a blog).

On Sep 29, 5:35 pm, richp  wrote:

>
> That fuck brain called tunderbar expects absolute perfection from us
> who except the facts about AGW

•• Tunder -- would you say that pissy pants is confused?
     Is he trying to walk in two directions at once?

–– ––
Either way short term or long term the data
doesn't support man made global warming?

short term
http://junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/RSSglobe.html
long term
http://junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Moberg2005.html

Tommy's AGW death cult is a sham, he cannot even face the reality.

"Tom P"  wrote in message news:7ifdafF316u15U2@mid.individual.net...
> Eric Gisin wrote:
>> This seems to be first report in the MSM (a blog).
>

Last Post wrote:
> On Sep 29, 5:35 pm, richp  wrote:
>
>>
>> That fuck brain called tunderbar expects absolute perfection from us
>> who except the facts about AGW
>
> •• Tunder -- would you say that pissy pants is confused?
>      Is he trying to walk in two directions at once?
>
> –– ––
> Either way short term or long term the data
> doesn't support man made global warming?
>
> short term
> http://junkscience.com/

..bought and paid for tobacco denialist's lie blog.

richp wrote:
> On Sep 29, 2:16 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
>> tunderbar wrote:
>>> On Sep 29, 1:36 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
>>>> tunderbar wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 29, 1:09 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
>>>>>> Eric Gisin wrote:
>>>>>>> This seems to be first report in the MSM (a blog).
>>
>>>>>>> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100011716/how-the-g...
>>>>>>> http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/27/quote-of-the-week-20-ding-dong-...
>>
>>>>>>> By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: September 29th, 2009
>>
>>>>>>> For the growing band of AGW "Sceptics" the following story is
>>>>>>> dynamite. And for those who do believe in Al Gore's highly
>>>>>>> profitable myth about "Man-Made Global Warming", it will no
>>>>>>> doubt feel as comfortable as the rectally inserted suicide bomb
>>>>>>> that put paid to an Al Qaeda operative earlier this week.
>>>>>>> Now read on.
>>
>>>>>>> Those of you who saw An Inconvenient Truth may remember, if you
>>>>>>> weren't asleep by that stage, the key scene where big green Al
>>>>>>> deploys his terrifying graph to show how totally screwed we all
>>>>>>> are by man-made global warming. This graph - known as the Hockey
>>>>>>> Stick Curve - purports to show rising global temperatures
>>>>>>> through the ages. In the part representing the late twentieth
>>>>>>> century it shoots up almost vertically. To emphasise his point
>>>>>>> that this is serious and that if we don't act NOW we're doomed,
>>>>>>> Al Gore - wearing a wry smile which says: "Sure folks, this
>>>>>>> is kinda funny. But don't forget how serious it is too" - climbs
>>>>>>> on to a mini-lift in order to be able to reach the top of the
>>>>>>> chart. Cue consensual gasps from his parti pris audience.
>>>>>>> Except that the graph - devised in 1998 by a US climatologist
>>>>>>> called Dr Michael Mann - is based on a huge lie
>>
>>>>>> Same bullshit, different day.
>>
>>>>>> Hockey sticks from other sources are now a dime a dozen.
>>
>>>>> Cite? This time I insist. Either cite or GFY.
>>
>>>> And when I do, you will take a hike, correct? Let me know.
>>
>>> Absolutely. Show be cites from proven-independent non-eco-activist
>>> peer-reviewed unassailable science to support the hockey stick
>>> theory,
>>
>> Ah, moving the goalposts I see. lol
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png
>>
>> Ten different hockey sticks. Where are your lie articles about those?
>> lol
>>
>> Continue shrieking!- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> That fuck brain called tunderbar expects absolute perfection from us
> who except the facts about AGW

  No.  If he got that, he would simply continue lying.

On Sep 29, 3:35 pm, Last Post  wrote:
> On Sep 29, 5:35 pm, richp  wrote:
>
>
>
> > That fuck brain called tunderbar expects absolute perfection from us
> > who except the facts about AGW
>
> •• Tunder -- would you say that pissy pants is confused?
>      Is he trying to walk in two directions at once?
>
> –– ––
> Either way short term or long term the data
> doesn't support man made global warming?
>
> short termhttp://junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/RSSglobe.html
> long termhttp://junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Moberg2005.html

Hey junkscience can fuck off.  It is a site about itself

On Sep 30, 7:24 am, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
> richp wrote:
> > On Sep 29, 2:16 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
> >> tunderbar wrote:
> >>> On Sep 29, 1:36 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
> >>>> tunderbar wrote:
> >>>>> On Sep 29, 1:09 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
> >>>>>> Eric Gisin wrote:
> >>>>>>> This seems to be first report in the MSM (a blog).
>
> >>>>>>>http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100011716/how-the-g...
> >>>>>>>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/27/quote-of-the-week-20-ding-dong-...
>
> >>>>>>> By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: September 29th, 2009
>
> >>>>>>> For the growing band of AGW "Sceptics" the following story is
> >>>>>>> dynamite. And for those who do believe in Al Gore's highly
> >>>>>>> profitable myth about "Man-Made Global Warming", it will no
> >>>>>>> doubt feel as comfortable as the rectally inserted suicide bomb
> >>>>>>> that put paid to an Al Qaeda operative earlier this week.
> >>>>>>> Now read on.
>
> >>>>>>> Those of you who saw An Inconvenient Truth may remember, if you
> >>>>>>> weren't asleep by that stage, the key scene where big green Al
> >>>>>>> deploys his terrifying graph to show how totally screwed we all
> >>>>>>> are by man-made global warming. This graph - known as the Hockey
> >>>>>>> Stick Curve - purports to show rising global temperatures
> >>>>>>> through the ages. In the part representing the late twentieth
> >>>>>>> century it shoots up almost vertically. To emphasise his point
> >>>>>>> that this is serious and that if we don't act NOW we're doomed,
> >>>>>>> Al Gore - wearing a wry smile which says: "Sure folks, this
> >>>>>>> is kinda funny. But don't forget how serious it is too" - climbs
> >>>>>>> on to a mini-lift in order to be able to reach the top of the
> >>>>>>> chart. Cue consensual gasps from his parti pris audience.
> >>>>>>> Except that the graph - devised in 1998 by a US climatologist
> >>>>>>> called Dr Michael Mann - is based on a huge lie
>
> >>>>>> Same bullshit, different day.
>
> >>>>>> Hockey sticks from other sources are now a dime a dozen.
>
> >>>>> Cite? This time I insist. Either cite or GFY.
>
> >>>> And when I do, you will take a hike, correct? Let me know.
>
> >>> Absolutely. Show be cites from proven-independent non-eco-activist
> >>> peer-reviewed unassailable science to support the hockey stick
> >>> theory,
>
> >> Ah, moving the goalposts I see. lol
>
> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png
>
> >> Ten different hockey sticks. Where are your lie articles about those?
> >> lol
>
> >> Continue shrieking!- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > That fuck brain called tunderbar expects absolute perfection from us
> > who except the facts about AGW
>
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I believe you are correct

On Sep 30, 4:18 pm, richp  wrote:
> On Sep 29, 3:35 pm, Last Post  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 29, 5:35 pm, richp  wrote:
>
> > > That fuck brain called tunderbar expects absolute perfection from us
> > > who except the facts about AGW
>
> > •• Tunder -- would you say that pissy pants is confused?
> >      Is he trying to walk in two directions at once?

> Hey junkscience can fuck off.  It is a site about itself>

•• Oh, just another oh so clever one, citing a snippet
    from a signature, divorced from context and
    without any reference to the subject.

 –– ––
 Either way short term or long term the data
 doesn't support man made global warming?

 short termhttp://junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/RSSglobe.html
 long termhttp://junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Moberg2005.html

On Sep 29, 4:16 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
> tunderbar wrote:
> > On Sep 29, 1:36 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
> >> tunderbar wrote:
> >>> On Sep 29, 1:09 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"  wrote:
> >>>> Eric Gisin wrote:
> >>>>> This seems to be first report in the MSM (a blog).
>
> >>>>>http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100011716/how-the-g...
> >>>>>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/27/quote-of-the-week-20-ding-dong> >>>>> By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: September 29th, 2009
>
> >>>>> For the growing band of AGW "Sceptics" the following story is
> >>>>> dynamite. And for those who do believe in Al Gore's highly
> >>>>> profitable myth about "Man-Made Global Warming", it will no doubt
> >>>>> feel as comfortable as the rectally inserted suicide bomb that put
> >>>>> paid to an Al Qaeda operative earlier this week.
> >>>>> Now read on.
>
> >>>>> Those of you who saw An Inconvenient Truth may remember, if you
> >>>>> weren't asleep by that stage, the key scene where big green Al
> >>>>> deploys his terrifying graph to show how totally screwed we all
> >>>>> are by man-made global warming. This graph - known as the Hockey
> >>>>> Stick Curve - purports to show rising global temperatures through
> >>>>> the ages. In the part representing the late twentieth century it
> >>>>> shoots up almost vertically. To emphasise his point that this is
> >>>>> serious and that if we don't act NOW we're doomed, Al Gore -
> >>>>> wearing a wry smile which says: "Sure folks, this
> >>>>> is kinda funny. But don't forget how serious it is too" - climbs
> >>>>> on to a mini-lift in order to be able to reach the top of the
> >>>>> chart. Cue consensual gasps from his parti pris audience.
> >>>>> Except that the graph - devised in 1998 by a US climatologist
> >>>>> called Dr Michael Mann - is based on a huge lie
>
> >>>> Same bullshit, different day.
>
> >>>> Hockey sticks from other sources are now a dime a dozen.
>
> >>> Cite? This time I insist. Either cite or GFY.
>
> >> And when I do, you will take a hike, correct? Let me know.
>
> > Absolutely. Show be cites from proven-independent non-eco-activist
> > peer-reviewed unassailable science to support the hockey stick theory,
>
>   Ah, moving the goalposts I see.  lol
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png
>
>   Ten different hockey sticks.  Where are your lie articles about those?
> lol
>
>   Continue shrieking!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The page you site are all reconstruction from the same Briffa data set
- the suspect data of late.  better try again!