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JN@noparticularplacetogo.com (JNugent) wrote:

> rosenstiel@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> 
> > JN@noparticularplacetogo.com (JNugent) wrote:
> >> rosenstiel@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> >>> T.C.Roll-Pickering@qmul.ac.uk (Tim Roll-Pickering) wrote:
> >>>> Paul Hyett wrote:
> 
> >>>>>> North Tyneside MBC, Preston
> >>>>>> Con 1141 (55.8; -14.2)
> >>>>>> Lab 503 (24.6; -5.3)
> >>>>>> Public Services not Private Profit 174 (8.5; +8.5)
> >>>>>> LD 152 (7.4; +7.4)
> >>>>>> Green 73 (3.6; +3.6)
> >>>>>> Majority 638
> >>>>>> Turnout not known
> >>>>>> Con hold
> >>>>>> Percentage change is since May 2008
> 
> >>>>> The Tories hold a seat on Tyneside??
> 
> >>>> The Conservatives have the majority of councillors on North 
> >>>> Tyneside and also hold the directly elected Mayor.
> 
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Tyneside_Council_election,_2008
> 
> >>>> However since the media only focus on the big name city councils 
> >>>> they perpetuate this rubbish that the Conservatives have no support
> >>>> in northern urban areas. 
> 
> >>> That will be because what little strength they have is in 
> >>> suburban areas, maybe?
> 
> >> Well, it probably isn't very strong on inner-city council estates, 
> >> if that's what you mean.
> >> And in cities where councils carpeted their inner areas (and even 
> >> some of their peripheral suburbs) with council flats in the 
> >> fifties, sixties and seventies, that's going to have an effect 
> >> which is obvious to anyone looking at the issue dispassionately.
> >> Council- and housing-association housing is a political and 
> >> psephological issue. It doesn't just happen by accident.
> 
> > You overlook that Tynemouth, a major component of North Tyneside, 
> > is another fading Northern seaside resort, not a major city.
> 
> What are you talking about?
> 
> I haven't mentioned Tynemouth and have said nothing about it.
> 
> Do you have anything to say about what I *did* write, as opposed to 
> what I didn't write?

Last time I looked at a map, Tynemouth was a significant component of 
North Tyneside. The resort stretches along the coast to Cullercoats and 
Whitley Bay.

-- 
Cllr. Colin Rosenstiel
Cambridge                    http://www.rosenstiel.co.uk/
Cambridge Liberal Democrats: http://www.cambridgelibdems.org.uk/

rosenstiel@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:

> JN@noparticularplacetogo.com (JNugent) wrote:
>> rosenstiel@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>> JN@noparticularplacetogo.com (JNugent) wrote:
>>>> rosenstiel@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>>>> T.C.Roll-Pickering@qmul.ac.uk (Tim Roll-Pickering) wrote:
>>>>>> Paul Hyett wrote:

>>>>>>>> North Tyneside MBC, Preston
>>>>>>>> Con 1141 (55.8; -14.2)
>>>>>>>> Lab 503 (24.6; -5.3)
>>>>>>>> Public Services not Private Profit 174 (8.5; +8.5)
>>>>>>>> LD 152 (7.4; +7.4)
>>>>>>>> Green 73 (3.6; +3.6)
>>>>>>>> Majority 638
>>>>>>>> Turnout not known
>>>>>>>> Con hold
>>>>>>>> Percentage change is since May 2008

>>>>>>> The Tories hold a seat on Tyneside??

>>>>>> The Conservatives have the majority of councillors on North 
>>>>>> Tyneside and also hold the directly elected Mayor.

>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Tyneside_Council_election,_2008

>>>>>> However since the media only focus on the big name city councils 
>>>>>> they perpetuate this rubbish that the Conservatives have no support
>>>>>> in northern urban areas. 

>>>>> That will be because what little strength they have is in 
>>>>> suburban areas, maybe?

>>>> Well, it probably isn't very strong on inner-city council estates, 
>>>> if that's what you mean.
>>>> And in cities where councils carpeted their inner areas (and even 
>>>> some of their peripheral suburbs) with council flats in the 
>>>> fifties, sixties and seventies, that's going to have an effect 
>>>> which is obvious to anyone looking at the issue dispassionately.
>>>> Council- and housing-association housing is a political and 
>>>> psephological issue. It doesn't just happen by accident.

>>> You overlook that Tynemouth, a major component of North Tyneside, 
>>> is another fading Northern seaside resort, not a major city.

>> What are you talking about?
>> I haven't mentioned Tynemouth and have said nothing about it.
>> Do you have anything to say about what I *did* write, as opposed to 
>> what I didn't write?

> Last time I looked at a map, Tynemouth was a significant component of 
> North Tyneside. The resort stretches along the coast to Cullercoats and 
> Whitley Bay.

So you *didn't* have anything to say about what I actually wrote.

Thanks for confirming it.