How come nobody is posting about them??
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

In article ,
   Paul Hyett <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> How come nobody is posting about them??

Oh!  Good point.  I spent all of yesterday blogging (with continual
updating), following TV and Iain Dale's nine-hour marathon Internet radio
programme, and didn't really have time to post anywhere else.  I was,
until now, taking some time off before tomorrow's Euro elections
mini-marathon.

My method was quite intensive, with several web browser windows open, each
with several tabs, most of which were to sites that didn't auto-update, so
it was quite a scene here in "mission control" (as this room is known).

It was well worth all the effort, to see how the British voting public had
reacted to events and recent revelations.  Although non-Big Three parties
and Independents saw their number of seats rise by 90, this was
overshadowed by the Conservatives' nett overall gain of some 285 seats;
and Labour's losses amounting to 329 seats just added to the gulf between
those two parties.

The counties electoral map is now nearly entirely blue, with No Overall
Control councils down from four to three, and just one small spot of
LibDem yellow.

The Euro results tomorrow will probably have a somewhat different shape,
but I suspect the message from it will be similar.  Whatever UKIP and the
Greens achieve (or don't achieve) and whatever happens in regard to the
BNP, the big picture is still likely to be very much Conservative
dominance -- just not as overwhelmingly so as with yesterday's results.

-- 
John M Ward - see http://www.horsted.john-ward.org.uk
--> In favour of returning all local decisions to local people!

In message , Paul Hyett 
<pah@invalid.invalid> writes
>How come nobody is posting about them??

Post traumatic amnesia :-)

-- 
Edward Cowling               North London    UK

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 at 17:46:45, John M Ward  wrote 
in uk.politics.electoral :

>In article ,
>   Paul Hyett <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> How come nobody is posting about them??
>
>Oh!  Good point.  I spent all of yesterday blogging (with continual
>updating), following TV and Iain Dale's nine-hour marathon Internet radio
>programme, and didn't really have time to post anywhere else.  I was,
>until now, taking some time off before tomorrow's Euro elections
>mini-marathon.

Am I right in thinking the UK's Euro results will all be released at 9pm 
tonight? Presumably they were counted back on Friday?
>
>It was well worth all the effort, to see how the British voting public had
>reacted to events and recent revelations.  Although non-Big Three parties
>and Independents saw their number of seats rise by 90, this was
>overshadowed by the Conservatives' nett overall gain of some 285 seats;
>and Labour's losses amounting to 329 seats just added to the gulf between
>those two parties.

Glos CC saw Labour slip to just 4 seats.

Now :

Conservative - 42 (+9)
Labour - 4 (-8)
Lib Dem - 13 (-1)
Green - 1 (+1)
People against Bureaucracy 2 (+1)
Independent - 1 (-2)
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

In article , pah@invalid.invalid (Paul 
Hyett) wrote:

> How come nobody is posting about them??

Would you like to hear about the Lib Dem triumph in Cambridge? 11 seats 
won out of 14 for the first time ever (by any party). Even though Labour 
were extremely unpopular,losing a seat each to us and the Greens, the 
Tories managed to be even less popular and won nothing. despite getting 
more votes across the City (not across the constituency) than Labour. :-))

-- 
Cllr. Colin Rosenstiel
Cambridge                    http://www.rosenstiel.co.uk/
Cambridge Liberal Democrats: http://www.cambridgelibdems.org.uk/

On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:12:43 -0500
rosenstiel@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:

> In article , pah@invalid.invalid
> (Paul Hyett) wrote:
> 
> > How come nobody is posting about them??
> 
> Would you like to hear about the Lib Dem triumph in Cambridge? 11
> seats won out of 14 for the first time ever (by any party). Even
> though Labour were extremely unpopular,losing a seat each to us and
> the Greens, the Tories managed to be even less popular and won
> nothing. despite getting more votes across the City (not across the
> constituency) than Labour. :-))
>

The wonders of first past the post.

I had a look at the Cornish results in some detail there, hardly any
one got a majority in each of the single member seats, commonly people
were winning on 25% of the votes.

-- 
\/ Lyn David Thomas

In article <MR+6+yJol2KKFwD8@blueyonder.co.uk>,
   Paul Hyett <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 at 17:46:45, John M Ward  wrote
> in uk.politics.electoral :

> >In article ,
> >   Paul Hyett <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> How come nobody is posting about them??
> >
> >Oh!  Good point.  I spent all of yesterday blogging (with continual
> >updating), following TV and Iain Dale's nine-hour marathon Internet
> >radio programme, and didn't really have time to post anywhere else.  I
> >was, until now, taking some time off before tomorrow's Euro elections
> >mini-marathon.

> Am I right in thinking the UK's Euro results will all be released at
> 9pm tonight? Presumably they were counted back on Friday?

The counting starts and ends today, apparently.  Although the mainstream
broadcasters seem to have little interest in this, there will be Iain
Dale's Internet radio coverage and Tory Bear's LiveChat this evening, and
I shall be listening to the former and participating in the latter.  See
my 'blog for details, if you are interested:

http://wwwjohn-m-ward.blogspot.com/

-- 
John M Ward - see http://www.horsted.john-ward.org.uk
--> In favour of returning all local decisions to local people!

Paul Hyett wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 at 17:46:45, John M Ward  wrote 
> in uk.politics.electoral :
> 
>> In article ,
>>   Paul Hyett <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> How come nobody is posting about them??
>>
>> Oh!  Good point.  I spent all of yesterday blogging (with continual
>> updating), following TV and Iain Dale's nine-hour marathon Internet radio
>> programme, and didn't really have time to post anywhere else.  I was,
>> until now, taking some time off before tomorrow's Euro elections
>> mini-marathon.
> 
> Am I right in thinking the UK's Euro results will all be released at 9pm 
> tonight? Presumably they were counted back on Friday?

No. The count starts this afternoon.

rosenstiel@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:

> pah@invalid.invalid (Paul Hyett) wrote:

>> How come nobody is posting about them??

> Would you like to hear about the Lib Dem triumph in Cambridge? 11 seats 
> won out of 14 for the first time ever (by any party). Even though Labour 
> were extremely unpopular,losing a seat each to us and the Greens, the 
> Tories managed to be even less popular and won nothing. despite getting 
> more votes across the City (not across the constituency) than Labour. :-))

This would be the Cambridge which is a gerrymandered island in the midst of a 
sea of normality.

Students should not be allowed to vote in university towns unless they happen 
to have lived there before commencing their studies. They should vote (by 
post if necessary) wherever their normal family homes are/were. This student 
effect in places like Cambridge is an unintended consequence of the reduction 
in the age of majority and should have been addressed long ago. It is 
anti-democratic.

That is not going to be a popular thing to say to a LibDem (that party being 
one that benefits from contrived and artificial concentration of its 
otherwise geographically diffuse electoral support), but it is the right 
thing to say. The people of Cambridge (the real people of Cambridge, that is) 
deserve better than they currently get. If they would elect a LibDem council 
without the student effect, fair enough. But even you don't think they would 
do that, as your response to this will indicate.

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 at 16:52:18, Paul Hyett <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote 
in uk.politics.electoral :

>How come nobody is posting about them??

Is there a site that gives the Euro figures split by council area, 
rather than lumped into regional blocks?
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

Sinn Fein were first past the post here in Northern Ireland by more than 
37,000 votes.  I trust that the supporters of FPtP who post here will 
now campaign vigorously for the EU to implement this mandate by 
facilitating the reunification of the six counties with the rest of 
Ireland at the earliest opportunity.
-- 
Goalie of the Century

On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 at 09:19:12, Paul Hyett <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote 
in uk.politics.electoral :

>On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 at 16:52:18, Paul Hyett <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote 
>in uk.politics.electoral :
>
>>How come nobody is posting about them??
>
>Is there a site that gives the Euro figures split by council area, 
>rather than lumped into regional blocks?

I guess not, then? Or at least, not yet?
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

"Paul Hyett" <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:0U2k$4LN$jLKFwcV@blueyonder.co.uk...
> On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 at 09:19:12, Paul Hyett <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote in 
> uk.politics.electoral :
>
>>On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 at 16:52:18, Paul Hyett <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote in 
>>uk.politics.electoral :
>>
>>>How come nobody is posting about them??
>>
>>Is there a site that gives the Euro figures split by council area, rather 
>>than lumped into regional blocks?
>
> I guess not, then? Or at least, not yet?
> -- 
> Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

The results for the Northumberland area are on the County Council site, and 
the local BBC TV  news had them for the North East, Cumbria and Y&H

I'd hazard a guess that noone has correlated them yet.

On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 at 11:15:19, Paul Hyett <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote 
in uk.politics.electoral :
>>
>>Is there a site that gives the Euro figures split by council area, 
>>rather than lumped into regional blocks?
>
>I guess not, then? Or at least, not yet?

I take it back - try this :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/table/2009/jun/09/european-elections-elections-2009
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

Paul Hyett wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 at 11:15:19, Paul Hyett <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote 
> in uk.politics.electoral :
>>>
>>> Is there a site that gives the Euro figures split by council area, 
>>> rather than lumped into regional blocks?
>>
>> I guess not, then? Or at least, not yet?
> 
> I take it back - try this :
> 
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/table/2009/jun/09/european-elections-elections-2009 





So there you have it, UKIP came joint second with Labour on the EU
and Yet Martin Harvey of UKIP's Broxbourne and Harlow branch managed
to not field any county councillor candidates.




Harlow
  	
CON      23.8
LAB      19.2
UKIP     19.0
LIBDEM   10.0
BNP       9.5
GREEN     6.0