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date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:21 +0100 (BST),    group: uk.politics.electoral        back       
Local Authority Byelection Results 17th July 2008   
Derwentside DC, Castleside
Ind 297 (82.3;+8.3), Con 64 (17.7;+3.7)
[Lab (0.0;-12.0)]
Majority 233  Turnout 27.49  Ind hold  Percentage change is from 2007

Hillingdon LBC, Townfield
Lab 1031(45.3;-12.6), LD 506 (22.2;+8.7), Con 445 (19.6;-9.0),
BNP 186 (8.2;+8.2), National Front 74 (3.3;+3.3), Green 33 (1.5;+1.5)
Majority 525  Turnout Not known  Lab hold  Percentage change is from 2006

Redditch BC, Batchley
Con 630 (39.0;-12.4), Lab 539 (33.4;-4.3), BNP 299 (18.5;+18.5),
LD 121 (7.5;-3.4), Ind 25 (1.5;+1.5)
Majority 91  Turnout 27.59  Con gain Lab  Percentage change is from 2008

Wealden DC, Uckfield New Town
LD 311 (47.4;-16.0), Con 289 (44.1;+7.5), UKIP 56 (8.5;+8.5)
Majority 22  Turnout 31.77  LD hold  Percentage change is from 2007

Worcestershire CC, Arrow Valley East
Con 1437 (42.2;+9.9), Lab 1041 (30.6;-15.8), LD 455 (13.4;-7.9),
BNP 367 (10.8;+10.8), Ind 103 (3.0;+3.0)
Majority 396  Turnout 19.76  Con gain Lab  Percentage change is from 2005


Information courtesy of the Association of Liberal Democrat Councillors
www: http://www.aldc.org. 
Also available at http://www.gwydir.demon.co.uk/byelections/
-- 
Cllr. Colin Rosenstiel
Cambridge
date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:21 +0100 (BST)   author:   (Colin Rosenstiel)

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results 17th July 2008   
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

> Wealden DC, Uckfield New Town
> LD 311 (47.4;-16.0), Con 289 (44.1;+7.5), UKIP 56 (8.5;+8.5)
> Majority 22  Turnout 31.77  LD hold  Percentage change is from 2007

Let's hope that UKIP are elated by their gaining 56 votes that could 
have seen the Conservative elected rather than a LibDem.

I can hardly believe that either they or their 56 voters prefer the 
actual result.
date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:04:56 +0100   author:   JNugent

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results 17th July 2008   
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 at 01:04:56, JNugent  wrote in 
uk.politics.electoral :

>Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
>
>> Wealden DC, Uckfield New Town
>> LD 311 (47.4;-16.0), Con 289 (44.1;+7.5), UKIP 56 (8.5;+8.5)
>> Majority 22  Turnout 31.77  LD hold  Percentage change is from 2007
>
>Let's hope that UKIP are elated by their gaining 56 votes that could 
>have seen the Conservative elected rather than a LibDem.
>
>I can hardly believe that either they or their 56 voters prefer the 
>actual result.

But how do you know the UKIP voters weren't anti-EU LibDems, wanting to 
make a point? After all, the drop in LD vote was split almost equally 
between their opponents...
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:01:00 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results 17th July 2008   
On Jul 19, 1:04 am, JNugent  wrote:
> Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
> > Wealden DC, Uckfield New Town
> > LD 311 (47.4;-16.0), Con 289 (44.1;+7.5), UKIP 56 (8.5;+8.5)
> > Majority 22  Turnout 31.77  LD hold  Percentage change is from 2007
>
> Let's hope that UKIP are elated by their gaining 56 votes that could
> have seen the Conservative elected rather than a LibDem.
>
> I can hardly believe that either they or their 56 voters prefer the
> actual result.

Such are the vagaries of FPTP.
--
Henry
date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:58:26 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results 17th July 2008   
>"JNugent" wrote
>> Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
>
>> Wealden DC, Uckfield New Town
>> LD 311 (47.4;-16.0), Con 289 (44.1;+7.5), UKIP 56 (8.5;+8.5)
>> Majority 22  Turnout 31.77  LD hold  Percentage change is from 2007
>
> Let's hope that UKIP are elated by their gaining 56 votes that could have 
> seen the Conservative elected rather than a LibDem.
>
> I can hardly believe that either they or their 56 voters prefer the actual 
> result.

I suspect the 56 swivel-eyed loons believe the Tories and Liberals are all 
part of some grand conspiracy anyway.

Chris
date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:59:32 +0100   author:   Chris Read

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results 17th July 2008   
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:21 +0100 (BST), rosenstiel@cix.co.uk (Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

>Redditch BC, Batchley
>Con 630 (39.0;-12.4), Lab 539 (33.4;-4.3), BNP 299 (18.5;+18.5),
>LD 121 (7.5;-3.4), Ind 25 (1.5;+1.5)
>Majority 91  Turnout 27.59  Con gain Lab  Percentage change is from 2008

Poor Jacqui.
date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:24:04 +0100   author:   James Farrar

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results 17th July 2008   
On 19 Jul, 01:04, JNugent  wrote:

> Let's hope that UKIP are elated by their gaining 56 votes that could
> have seen the Conservative elected rather than a LibDem.
>
> I can hardly believe that either they or their 56 voters prefer the
> actual result.

I can hardly believe that any of the 56 would have any strong
preference between the pro-EU anti-European anti-patriotic traitors of
the Lib Dems or the  pro-EU anti-European anti-patriotic traitors of
the Conservative Party.
date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:59:55 -0700 (PDT)   author:   JohnLoony

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results 17th July 2008   
JohnLoony  wrote:
> On 19 Jul, 01:04, JNugent  wrote:
> 
> > Let's hope that UKIP are elated by their gaining 56 votes that could
> > have seen the Conservative elected rather than a LibDem.
> >
> > I can hardly believe that either they or their 56 voters prefer the
> > actual result.
> 
> I can hardly believe that any of the 56 would have any strong
> preference between the pro-EU anti-European anti-patriotic traitors of
> the Lib Dems or the  pro-EU anti-European anti-patriotic traitors of
> the Conservative Party.

The differences are just styles of management, not policies.
date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:47:46 GMT   author:   Grumpy Old Ratepayer

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results 17th July 2008   
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 at 17:59:55, JohnLoony  
wrote in uk.politics.electoral :
>
>I can hardly believe that any of the 56 would have any strong
>preference between the pro-EU anti-European anti-patriotic traitors of
>the Lib Dems or the  pro-EU anti-European anti-patriotic traitors of
>the Conservative Party.

You can really see no difference between the Tory & LD views on the EU?
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:19:56 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results 17th July 2008   
Paul Hyett <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 at 17:59:55, JohnLoony  
> wrote in uk.politics.electoral :
> >
> >I can hardly believe that any of the 56 would have any strong
> >preference between the pro-EU anti-European anti-patriotic traitors of
> >the Lib Dems or the  pro-EU anti-European anti-patriotic traitors of
> >the Conservative Party.
> 
> You can really see no difference between the Tory & LD views on the EU?

The LibDems (at least the leadership) are enthusiastic.  The Tories grumble but
always roll over eventually.
date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:50:22 GMT   author:   Grumpy Old Ratepayer

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results 17th July 2008   
On 20 Jul, 08:19, Paul Hyett <p...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> You can really see no difference between the Tory & LD views on the EU?

Of course there are differences, and of course I can see the
differences, as can the UKIP voters.  What I actually wrote was "I can
hardly believe that any of the 56 would have any *********strong
preference********* between the pro-EU anti-European anti-patriotic
traitors of the Lib Dems or the  pro-EU anti-European anti-patriotic
traitors of the Conservative Party."  (I have highlighted the bit
which you obviously missed the first time).
date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:38:22 -0700 (PDT)   author:   JohnLoony

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results 17th July 2008   
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 at 19:38:22, JohnLoony  
wrote in uk.politics.electoral :

>On 20 Jul, 08:19, Paul Hyett <p...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> You can really see no difference between the Tory & LD views on the EU?
>
>Of course there are differences, and of course I can see the
>differences, as can the UKIP voters.  What I actually wrote was "I can
>hardly believe that any of the 56 would have any *********strong
>preference********* between the pro-EU anti-European anti-patriotic
>traitors of the Lib Dems or the  pro-EU anti-European anti-patriotic
>traitors of the Conservative Party."  (I have highlighted the bit
>which you obviously missed the first time).

I didn't miss it, I just attributed far less emphasis to it...
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:44:22 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

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