"Only three economics teachers were trained on teacher training courses in 
the whole of England last year, shows a study of students entering teaching.

The report's author, Professor Alan Smithers, warns that economics risks 
"dying out" as a school subject.

There are now more pupils taking A-levels in media studies, expressive arts 
and PE than economics."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7525170.stm

Dr Quite wrote:
> "Only three economics teachers were trained on teacher training
> courses in the whole of England last year, shows a study of students
> entering teaching.

Yes, we're economising.

"John of Aix"  wrote in message 
news:488a0825$0$888$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr...
> Dr Quite wrote:
>> "Only three economics teachers were trained on teacher training
>> courses in the whole of England last year, shows a study of students
>> entering teaching.
>
> Yes, we're economising.

So it seems. Except there must be lots of teachers training how to teach 
meeja and other clever things like that.

quite@quite.com (Dr Quite) wrote in
news:4889cb51$0$754$bed64819@news.gradwell.net: 

> "Only three economics teachers were trained on teacher training
> courses in the whole of England last year, shows a study of students
> entering teaching. 
> 
> The report's author, Professor Alan Smithers, warns that economics
> risks "dying out" as a school subject.

Since politicians run the economies of all modern states, there's no
longer a need for trained economists. 

-- 
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

Dr Quite wrote:
> "John of Aix"  wrote in message
> news:488a0825$0$888$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr...
>> Dr Quite wrote:
>>> "Only three economics teachers were trained on teacher training
>>> courses in the whole of England last year, shows a study of students
>>> entering teaching.
>>
>> Yes, we're economising.
>
> So it seems. Except there must be lots of teachers training how to
> teach meeja and other clever things like that.

Well meeja is vital isn't it. Without it the UK wouldn't 
have...erm...well, meeja. That's important innit?

Bert Hyman wrote:
> quite@quite.com (Dr Quite) wrote in
> news:4889cb51$0$754$bed64819@news.gradwell.net:
>
>> "Only three economics teachers were trained on teacher training
>> courses in the whole of England last year, shows a study of students
>> entering teaching.
>>
>> The report's author, Professor Alan Smithers, warns that economics
>> risks "dying out" as a school subject.
>
> Since politicians run the economies of all modern states, there's no
> longer a need for trained economists.

Yes but surely they require economists* to give them ideas, whether they 
follow them or not. Few politicians are economists by career.

*Supposing you believe in that stuff of course, which I'm not sure I do.

"John of Aix"  wrote in message 
news:488a49b0$0$941$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr...
> Dr Quite wrote:
>> "John of Aix"  wrote in message
>> news:488a0825$0$888$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr...
>>> Dr Quite wrote:
>>>> "Only three economics teachers were trained on teacher training
>>>> courses in the whole of England last year, shows a study of students
>>>> entering teaching.
>>>
>>> Yes, we're economising.
>>
>> So it seems. Except there must be lots of teachers training how to
>> teach meeja and other clever things like that.
>
> Well meeja is vital isn't it. Without it the UK wouldn't 
> have...erm...well, meeja. That's important innit?
>

Well it's fairly obvious that they can't be any worse at economics than the 
current bunch of pocket geniuses running the treasury,  or the US treasury 
for that matter...

It would be hard to drop the world into a deeper mess than it is at the 
moment.

Food running out,  oil prices far too high,  property crashing.

At least 'meja' grads would keep us laughing...

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

In news:488a4a43$0$886$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr "John of Aix"
 wrote: 

> Bert Hyman wrote:
>> quite@quite.com (Dr Quite) wrote in
>> news:4889cb51$0$754$bed64819@news.gradwell.net:
>>
>>> "Only three economics teachers were trained on teacher training
>>> courses in the whole of England last year, shows a study of students
>>> entering teaching.
>>>
>>> The report's author, Professor Alan Smithers, warns that economics
>>> risks "dying out" as a school subject.
>>
>> Since politicians run the economies of all modern states, there's no
>> longer a need for trained economists.
> 
> Yes but surely they require economists* to give them ideas, whether
> they follow them or not. 

Of course not. Politicians are qualified to legislate and regulate in
all areas and need no input from outsiders. 

> Few politicians are economists by career.

Of course not. They need no training. The only people they listen to are
lobbyists, and that depends only on how much they're paid. 

> *Supposing you believe in that stuff of course, which I'm not sure I
> do. 

Take a look at the vast array of legislation and regulation your country
and my country struggle under. Who wrote it? 

-- 
Bert Hyman	St. Paul, MN	bert@iphouse.com

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:47:12 +0100, "Dr Quite" 
wrote:

>"Only three economics teachers were trained on teacher training courses in 
>the whole of England last year, shows a study of students entering teaching.
>
>The report's author, Professor Alan Smithers, warns that economics risks 
>"dying out" as a school subject.
>
>There are now more pupils taking A-levels in media studies, expressive arts 
>and PE than economics."
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7525170.stm 
>
How much training does it need to kill a chicken and peer at it's
entrails?

"Thored"  wrote in message 
news:dmpl84h4dc7nrs2jumbtqt9q8jhbb54us4@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:47:12 +0100, "Dr Quite" 
> wrote:
>
>>"Only three economics teachers were trained on teacher training courses in
>>the whole of England last year, shows a study of students entering 
>>teaching.
>>
>>The report's author, Professor Alan Smithers, warns that economics risks
>>"dying out" as a school subject.
>>
>>There are now more pupils taking A-levels in media studies, expressive 
>>arts
>>and PE than economics."
>>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7525170.stm
>>
> How much training does it need to kill a chicken and peer at it's
> entrails?

Mheh. So you're another one who thinks that because economists don't always 
predict the future they never predict the future?

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:29:29 +0100, "Dr Quite" 
wrote:

>
>"Thored"  wrote in message 
>news:dmpl84h4dc7nrs2jumbtqt9q8jhbb54us4@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:47:12 +0100, "Dr Quite" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Only three economics teachers were trained on teacher training courses in
>>>the whole of England last year, shows a study of students entering 
>>>teaching.
>>>
>>>The report's author, Professor Alan Smithers, warns that economics risks
>>>"dying out" as a school subject.
>>>
>>>There are now more pupils taking A-levels in media studies, expressive 
>>>arts
>>>and PE than economics."
>>>
>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7525170.stm
>>>
>> How much training does it need to kill a chicken and peer at it's
>> entrails?
>
>Mheh. So you're another one who thinks that because economists don't always 
>predict the future they never predict the future? 
>
It's on a  par with spiritualism.

Dr Quite wrote:
> "Thored"  wrote in message 
> news:dmpl84h4dc7nrs2jumbtqt9q8jhbb54us4@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:47:12 +0100, "Dr Quite" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Only three economics teachers were trained on teacher training courses in
>>> the whole of England last year, shows a study of students entering 
>>> teaching.
>>>
>>> The report's author, Professor Alan Smithers, warns that economics risks
>>> "dying out" as a school subject.
>>>
>>> There are now more pupils taking A-levels in media studies, expressive 
>>> arts
>>> and PE than economics."
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7525170.stm
>>>
>> How much training does it need to kill a chicken and peer at it's
>> entrails?
> 
> Mheh. So you're another one who thinks that because economists don't always 
> predict the future they never predict the future? 
> 
> 
Some economists predict the economic future extremely accurately. 
Unfortunately, you don't know which of them it is on any particular day.

A successful economist is an ambiguous one...

On 26 Jul, Joe wrote:

> Some economists predict the economic future extremely accurately.
[...]

Boom Bust 2010 by Fred Harrison
* House Prices, Banking and the
Depression of 2010, 2nd edition
Shepheard Walwyn Publishers

In the two and a half years since the first edition appeared, events
have unfolded as predicted. In 2005 the consensus among forecasters
was that the boom in house prices would cool to an annual 2 or 3% rise
over the following years. In fact, in keeping with the 'winner's
curse' phase of the cycle described by the author, prices have risen
by more than 10% per annum.

Harrison's first book, The Power in the Land, predicted the early
1990s recession. Boom Bust, warned that investing in property is not
always a safe bet, because the market is subject to a sharp downturn
at the end of a remarkably regular 18-year cycle. If history repeats,
the next tipping point is due at end of 2007 or early 2008. This
forecast is based on a careful study of the evidence from property
markets, not only in the UK, over the last 200 years. If he is right,
Gordon Brown's claim, made in his 2007 Budget speech, that 'we will
never return to the old boom and bust' will be proved false.

The reason for the instability, Harrison explains, is not the housing
market itself but the land market on which all buildings stand. Land
is in fixed supply - as Mark Twain noted: 'They're not making any more
of it'. Therefore, as the demand for land for new homes and offices
rises with population growth and economic expansion, market forces,
which normally increase supply to reduce prices, have the reverse
effect: prices rise. This encourages speculation, with banks lending
more against escalating asset values and reinforcing the upward
spiral. Under existing government policies, the only way land prices
can be brought back to affordable levels is a slump, undermining the
banking system and causing widespread unemployment and repossessions.
This is exactly what is happening in America with the collapse of the
sub-prime mortgage market. The run on Northern Rock shows the UK
economy is not immune.

The author reveals that the government's monetary policy only has a
marginal impact on land speculation, but as the Bank of England raises
interest rates to curb house price inflation, the main victim is the
first-time buyer and the productive economy, especially small
businesses. The only way to neutralise the boom bust cycle is through
a reform of taxation, he claims.

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:46:33 +0200, John of Aix wrote:

> Well meeja is vital isn't it. Without it the UK wouldn't
> have...erm...well, meeja. That's important innit?

We must train the next generation of anti-English BBC traitors.

I'm thinking of hiring out my services as an alchemist to the gov.