http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8342454.stm
-- 
John Watson
London

John Watson wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8342454.stm

I wish him luck. I read what they did to a woman (one volunteer) and the 
study was done wrong. Nutt should never have mentioned Ecstasy or LSD 
because those are where he shot himself in the foot. My daughter was 
slipped some Ecstasy and did *not* like it, maybe because some guys in 
this area use it as a date rape drug.
LSD was really the wrong thing to mention. At maybe a 1/4 dose of LSD, 
not the shit some people try to sell. 1/4 dose makes me very alert with 
overtones of things I would never otherwise notice, but more than that 
makes things weird. I have never tried Ecstasy and never will so I don't 
know about that one, but my daughter and older stepdaughter both say it 
is bad shit.
McNutt needs to know when to shut up.
A full dose (or more) of LSD is not safe to a fragile mind.
Ecstasy is not safe for any mind.

Bill Baka

"Bill Baka"  wrote in message 
news:hcsncv$r1u$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> John Watson wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8342454.stm
>
> I wish him luck. I read what they did to a woman (one volunteer) and 
> the study was done wrong. Nutt should never have mentioned Ecstasy 
> or LSD because those are where he shot himself in the foot. My 
> daughter was slipped some Ecstasy and did *not* like it, maybe 
> because some guys in this area use it as a date rape drug.
> LSD was really the wrong thing to mention. At maybe a 1/4 dose of 
> LSD, not the shit some people try to sell. 1/4 dose makes me very 
> alert with overtones of things I would never otherwise notice, but 
> more than that makes things weird. I have never tried Ecstasy and 
> never will so I don't know about that one, but my daughter and older 
> stepdaughter both say it is bad shit.
> McNutt needs to know when to shut up.
> A full dose (or more) of LSD is not safe to a fragile mind.
> Ecstasy is not safe for any mind.
>
>
To be fair neither she nor you have any idea what the hell it was, 
prohibition to thank a very great deal for that though.

About LSD I agree totally.

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:15:25 -0800, Bill Baka 
wrote:

>Nutt should never have mentioned Ecstasy or LSD 
>because those are where he shot himself in the foot. My daughter was 
>slipped some Ecstasy and did *not* like it, maybe because some guys in 
>this area use it as a date rape drug.

How can she be certain that it was ecstasy?

That's one of the very big problems caused by prohibition.  The person
taking the drug can never be certain that it is the drug s/he wanted
and paid for.  IIUC a very high percentage of the substances sold in
clubs as illegal drugs are in fact home-made concoctions that do not
contain any illegal substances at all (though they may contain legal
things that are not very good for you, such as drain cleaner and rat
poison, because the seller want it to provoke *some* sort of
reaction).

-- 
Cynic

Cynic wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:15:25 -0800, Bill Baka 
> wrote:
> 
>> Nutt should never have mentioned Ecstasy or LSD 
>> because those are where he shot himself in the foot. My daughter was 
>> slipped some Ecstasy and did *not* like it, maybe because some guys in 
>> this area use it as a date rape drug.
> 
> How can she be certain that it was ecstasy?
> 
> That's one of the very big problems caused by prohibition.  The person
> taking the drug can never be certain that it is the drug s/he wanted
> and paid for.  IIUC a very high percentage of the substances sold in
> clubs as illegal drugs are in fact home-made concoctions that do not
> contain any illegal substances at all (though they may contain legal
> things that are not very good for you, such as drain cleaner and rat
> poison, because the seller want it to provoke *some* sort of
> reaction).
> 


Well I don't think it was his intention to show that side of drug use or 
by extension its use in date rape but as its components, its lethality, 
etc... I'm sorry someone slipped a drug to her, its awful that someone 
would do that for any reason. But these days it seems just as easy to 
find a drunk girl to bring home. I'm petty sure, from my limited 
knowledge of drugs, that lsd and estasy have less "contaminates" are are 
not made by rat poison, cough medicine or drain cleaner.

He also seems very concerned that all drugs who are legalized are 
controlled and tested/studied. Another good thing I've learnt from him 
recently is he is not someone who takes the studies at face value and 
takes a very controlled look at the subject before he addresses it publicly.

-- 
"'Bill Gates can't guarantee Windows, so how in the HELL can you 
guarantee our safety!'  --John Crichton (Farscape)"

JohnR wrote:
> "Bill Baka"  wrote in message
> > or LSD because those are where he shot himself in the foot. My
> > daughter was slipped some Ecstasy and did *not* like it, maybe
> > because some guys in this area use it as a date rape drug.

> To be fair neither she nor you have any idea what the hell it was,
> prohibition to thank a very great deal for that though.

While it's true that drug prohibition makes it impossible to
know what you're taking, I don't think it's realistic to expect
that a date rapist is going to show his victim the ingredient
list of the drug he gave her.

Drug prohibition cannot be blamed for sexual predators,
and sadly the existence of such people is a counter-argument
that it might be a really good idea to have legal barriers to
try to keep drugs out of their hands.

--
Brother Nate
bronate@gmail.com
Moral Compass

"Cynic"  wrote in message 
news:k4s5f5dvean1f5qroia0697m77km7fok20@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:15:25 -0800, Bill Baka 
> wrote:
>
>>Nutt should never have mentioned Ecstasy or LSD
>>because those are where he shot himself in the foot. My daughter was
>>slipped some Ecstasy and did *not* like it, maybe because some guys in
>>this area use it as a date rape drug.
>
> How can she be certain that it was ecstasy?

See this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/6440589/Date-rape-drink-spiking-an-urban-legend.html

The last paragraph is telling.

"Date-rape drink spiking 'an urban legend'
Widespread spiking of drinks with date-rape drugs such as Rohypnol and GHB 
is an "urban legend" fuelled by young women unwilling to accept they have 
simply consumed too much alcohol, academics believe.

By Stephen Adams
Published: 6:10AM GMT 27 Oct 2009
A study of more than 200 students revealed many wrongly blamed the effects 
of a "bad night out" on date-rape drugs, when they had just drunk 
excessively.
Many are in "active denial" that drinking large amounts of alcohol can leave 
them "incoherent and incapacitated", the Kent University researchers 
concluded.
Young women's fears about date-rape drugs are so ingrained that students 
mistakenly think it is a more important factor in sexual assault than being 
drunk, taking drugs or walking alone at night.
The study, published in the British Journal of Criminology, found 
three-quarters of students identified drink spiking as an important risk - 
more than alcohol or drugs.
More than half said they knew someone whose drink had been spiked.
But despite popular beliefs, police have found no evidence that rape victims 
are commonly drugged with such substances, the researchers said.

<SNIP>

Earlier this year, Australian researchers found that not one of 97 young men 
and women admitted to hospital over 19 months to two Perth hospital claiming 
to have had their drinks spiked, had in fact been drugged. "

Slatts

Sla#s wrote:
> "Cynic"  wrote in message 
> news:k4s5f5dvean1f5qroia0697m77km7fok20@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:15:25 -0800, Bill Baka 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nutt should never have mentioned Ecstasy or LSD
>>> because those are where he shot himself in the foot. My daughter was
>>> slipped some Ecstasy and did *not* like it, maybe because some guys in
>>> this area use it as a date rape drug.
>> How can she be certain that it was ecstasy?
> 
> See this:
> 
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/6440589/Date-rape-drink-spiking-an-urban-legend.html
> 
> The last paragraph is telling.
> 
> "Date-rape drink spiking 'an urban legend'
> Widespread spiking of drinks with date-rape drugs such as Rohypnol and GHB 
> is an "urban legend" fuelled by young women unwilling to accept they have 
> simply consumed too much alcohol, academics believe.
> 
> By Stephen Adams
> Published: 6:10AM GMT 27 Oct 2009
> A study of more than 200 students revealed many wrongly blamed the effects 
> of a "bad night out" on date-rape drugs, when they had just drunk 
> excessively.
> Many are in "active denial" that drinking large amounts of alcohol can leave 
> them "incoherent and incapacitated", the Kent University researchers 
> concluded.
> Young women's fears about date-rape drugs are so ingrained that students 
> mistakenly think it is a more important factor in sexual assault than being 
> drunk, taking drugs or walking alone at night.
> The study, published in the British Journal of Criminology, found 
> three-quarters of students identified drink spiking as an important risk - 
> more than alcohol or drugs.
> More than half said they knew someone whose drink had been spiked.
> But despite popular beliefs, police have found no evidence that rape victims 
> are commonly drugged with such substances, the researchers said.
> 
> <SNIP>
> 
> Earlier this year, Australian researchers found that not one of 97 young men 
> and women admitted to hospital over 19 months to two Perth hospital claiming 
> to have had their drinks spiked, had in fact been drugged. "
> 
> Slatts 
> 
> 
wow. not a single of almost 100 people who beleived they were drugged 
weren't?! I'm sorry if there are some who have indeed been drugged but 
it seems there is alot of misinformation when it comes to any drug



-- 
"'Bill Gates can't guarantee Windows, so how in the HELL can you 
guarantee our safety!'  --John Crichton (Farscape)"

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:20:42 -0400, Freeballer
<freeballer@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>wow. not a single of almost 100 people who beleived they were drugged 
>weren't?! I'm sorry if there are some who have indeed been drugged but 
>it seems there is alot of misinformation when it comes to any drug

It is a sad state of affairs, but if you want any truthful and
reliable information about drugs you cannot rely on government and
official sources. You will just get scare propaganda and total
nonsense. 

The sacking of David Nutt shows that the government is not interested
in facts, it supresses those and sends propaganda "messages" designed
to frighten people instead.

Svenne

Svenne wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:20:42 -0400, Freeballer
> <freeballer@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> wow. not a single of almost 100 people who beleived they were drugged 
>> weren't?! I'm sorry if there are some who have indeed been drugged but 
>> it seems there is alot of misinformation when it comes to any drug
> 
> It is a sad state of affairs, but if you want any truthful and
> reliable information about drugs you cannot rely on government and
> official sources. You will just get scare propaganda and total
> nonsense. 
> 
> The sacking of David Nutt shows that the government is not interested
> in facts, it supresses those and sends propaganda "messages" designed
> to frighten people instead.
> 
> Svenne


frightenly true from the limited experience I have. I got into a 
discussion tonight with someone who knows a cancer patient. She was
pretty angry that I had brought it up. I know the person in question. I 
simply said "I don't know everything about it, but I know it should be 
legalized. At least for medical use." I probably said too much, I did 
say its known to help with pain and stomach issues, or help in chemo.. I 
kind of hope she'll bring it up to that person. It would, I beleive, 
help the quality of life.

-- 
"'Bill Gates can't guarantee Windows, so how in the HELL can you 
guarantee our safety!'  --John Crichton (Farscape)"

"Bill Baka"  wrote in message
news:hcsncv$r1u$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> John Watson wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8342454.stm
>
> I wish him luck. I read what they did to a woman (one volunteer) and the
> study was done wrong. Nutt should never have mentioned Ecstasy or LSD
> because those are where he shot himself in the foot. My daughter was
> slipped some Ecstasy and did *not* like it, maybe because some guys in
> this area use it as a date rape drug.
> LSD was really the wrong thing to mention. At maybe a 1/4 dose of LSD, not
> the shit some people try to sell. 1/4 dose makes me very alert with
> overtones of things I would never otherwise notice, but more than that
> makes things weird. I have never tried Ecstasy and never will so I don't
> know about that one, but my daughter and older stepdaughter both say it is
> bad shit.
> McNutt needs to know when to shut up.
> A full dose (or more) of LSD is not safe to a fragile mind.
> Ecstasy is not safe for any mind.



How do you know if you've never personally taken it?



>
> Bill Baka

john smith wrote:
> "Bill Baka"  wrote in message
> news:hcsncv$r1u$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> John Watson wrote:
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8342454.stm
>> I wish him luck. I read what they did to a woman (one volunteer) and the
>> study was done wrong. Nutt should never have mentioned Ecstasy or LSD
>> because those are where he shot himself in the foot. My daughter was
>> slipped some Ecstasy and did *not* like it, maybe because some guys in
>> this area use it as a date rape drug.
>> LSD was really the wrong thing to mention. At maybe a 1/4 dose of LSD, not
>> the shit some people try to sell. 1/4 dose makes me very alert with
>> overtones of things I would never otherwise notice, but more than that
>> makes things weird. I have never tried Ecstasy and never will so I don't
>> know about that one, but my daughter and older stepdaughter both say it is
>> bad shit.
>> McNutt needs to know when to shut up.
>> A full dose (or more) of LSD is not safe to a fragile mind.
>> Ecstasy is not safe for any mind.
> 
> 
> 
> How do you know if you've never personally taken it?
> 
> 
> 
>> Bill Baka
> 
> 
> 
I don't hang out in bars where guys like to buy a girl a drink with a 
little something extra. My daughter gave up on bars after that happened.
McNutt should have stuck with one thing at a time, pot.
The other flaw in the whole story is that the researchers (bad ones) 
actually injected her with straight *skunk* oil. Pot is not an IV drug 
and those British idiots should know that. The *one* test subject was a 
professional drug test volunteer and she complains that it *ruined* her 
mind.
Can you say bogus testing on a flawed subject just to get the results 
they wanted?
Politicians want power and don't really care if they ruin 40% of 
people's lives as long as the other 60% will get him back into office.
My stepdaughter was at a friend's house and tried some *skunk* and after 
one hit she said enough. I asked her and she said it tasted like 
chemicals and metal, which is a sure tip off that somebody got some junk 
pot and juiced it with PCP. If I can find the guy I will tip the cops to 
it. I need my stepdaughter to get a sample for the police.
If you don't know what I am talking about, read up. Greedy drug dealers 
used to add this crap to pot to make it seem like kick ass weed but all 
it did was seek and destroy brain cells.
Is that any help?

Bill Baka

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:50:14 -0800, Bill Baka 
wrote:

>john smith wrote:
>> "Bill Baka"  wrote in message
>> news:hcsncv$r1u$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> John Watson wrote:
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8342454.stm
>>> I wish him luck. I read what they did to a woman (one volunteer) and the
>>> study was done wrong. Nutt should never have mentioned Ecstasy or LSD
>>> because those are where he shot himself in the foot. My daughter was
>>> slipped some Ecstasy and did *not* like it, maybe because some guys in
>>> this area use it as a date rape drug.
>>> LSD was really the wrong thing to mention. At maybe a 1/4 dose of LSD, not
>>> the shit some people try to sell. 1/4 dose makes me very alert with
>>> overtones of things I would never otherwise notice, but more than that
>>> makes things weird. I have never tried Ecstasy and never will so I don't
>>> know about that one, but my daughter and older stepdaughter both say it is
>>> bad shit.
>>> McNutt needs to know when to shut up.
>>> A full dose (or more) of LSD is not safe to a fragile mind.
>>> Ecstasy is not safe for any mind.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How do you know if you've never personally taken it?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Bill Baka
>> 
>> 
>> 
>I don't hang out in bars where guys like to buy a girl a drink with a 
>little something extra. My daughter gave up on bars after that happened.
>McNutt should have stuck with one thing at a time, pot.
>The other flaw in the whole story is that the researchers (bad ones) 
>actually injected her with straight *skunk* oil. Pot is not an IV drug 
>and those British idiots should know that. The *one* test subject was a 
>professional drug test volunteer and she complains that it *ruined* her 
>mind.
>Can you say bogus testing on a flawed subject just to get the results 
>they wanted?
>Politicians want power and don't really care if they ruin 40% of 
>people's lives as long as the other 60% will get him back into office.
>My stepdaughter was at a friend's house and tried some *skunk* and after 
>one hit she said enough. I asked her and she said it tasted like 
>chemicals and metal, which is a sure tip off that somebody got some junk 
>pot and juiced it with PCP. If I can find the guy I will tip the cops to 
>it. I need my stepdaughter to get a sample for the police.
>If you don't know what I am talking about, read up. Greedy drug dealers 
>used to add this crap to pot to make it seem like kick ass weed but all 
>it did was seek and destroy brain cells.
>Is that any help?
>
>Bill Baka

All the more reason to make it legal and control it's production ..How
long have we been fighting the war against drugs ..Are we winning it?

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:58:06 +0000, Usenet Nutter wrote:

> long have we been fighting the war against drugs ..Are we winning it?

total failure


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Usenet Nutter wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:50:14 -0800, Bill Baka 
> wrote:
> 
>> I don't hang out in bars where guys like to buy a girl a drink with a 
>> little something extra. My daughter gave up on bars after that happened.
>> McNutt should have stuck with one thing at a time, pot.
>> The other flaw in the whole story is that the researchers (bad ones) 
>> actually injected her with straight *skunk* oil. Pot is not an IV drug 
>> and those British idiots should know that. The *one* test subject was a 
>> professional drug test volunteer and she complains that it *ruined* her 
>> mind.
>> Can you say bogus testing on a flawed subject just to get the results 
>> they wanted?
>> Politicians want power and don't really care if they ruin 40% of 
>> people's lives as long as the other 60% will get him back into office.
>> My stepdaughter was at a friend's house and tried some *skunk* and after 
>> one hit she said enough. I asked her and she said it tasted like 
>> chemicals and metal, which is a sure tip off that somebody got some junk 
>> pot and juiced it with PCP. If I can find the guy I will tip the cops to 
>> it. I need my stepdaughter to get a sample for the police.
>> If you don't know what I am talking about, read up. Greedy drug dealers 
>> used to add this crap to pot to make it seem like kick ass weed but all 
>> it did was seek and destroy brain cells.
>> Is that any help?
>>
>> Bill Baka
> 
> All the more reason to make it legal and control it's production ..How
> long have we been fighting the war against drugs ..Are we winning it?

We are losing the war on drugs, Afghanistan, poverty,......!
I would not mind walking into a store and ordering some 100 proof Sativa 
or Indica. For my part, I would just as soon take a honey oil pill and 
wait 15 minutes or so. Nothing goes up in smoke and it should last 
longer. Americans are too impatient, and want their high */NOW/* if not 
sooner. Kind of silly to me, but geesh, we have remote controls for our 
televisions so we don't have to exert ourselves too much. I suspect that 
no matter what the government does it will be a compromise and none of 
us will be happy.
Sigh.
Bill Baka

Cynic wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:15:25 -0800, Bill Baka 
> wrote:
> 
>> Nutt should never have mentioned Ecstasy or LSD 
>> because those are where he shot himself in the foot. My daughter was 
>> slipped some Ecstasy and did *not* like it, maybe because some guys in 
>> this area use it as a date rape drug.
> 
> How can she be certain that it was ecstasy?

She isn't but that is what was going around last year.
> 
> That's one of the very big problems caused by prohibition.  The person
> taking the drug can never be certain that it is the drug s/he wanted
> and paid for.  IIUC a very high percentage of the substances sold in
> clubs as illegal drugs are in fact home-made concoctions that do not
> contain any illegal substances at all (though they may contain legal
> things that are not very good for you, such as drain cleaner and rat
> poison, because the seller want it to provoke *some* sort of
> reaction).
>
Exactly why I will never accept anything from a *drug* dealer unless I 
know him and it is only weed with no chemicals added. That kind of thing 
has been going on since the 1960's when the dealers *stepped on it* to 
make it seem like really good stuff. Too bad it kills your brain, fast.
Tastes like metal/Chinese plastic so you know it isn't just pot.
I do hope McNutt succeeds.
Bill Baka

Some more information on Ecstasy:

Marijuana/Cannabis, PTSD... and Ecstasy: an Amphetamine-Like Drug? Never

"What really scares me is that some people seem to think this might be 
better than marijuana/cannabis for PTSD which has never killed ANYBODY!"

  http://overgrow.ning.com/group/Facts/forum/topics/marijuanacannabis-ptsd-and

  Poke through the site...plant the seeds of re-legalization everywhere!

"Bill Baka"  wrote in message 
news:hcsncv$r1u$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> John Watson wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8342454.stm
>
> I wish him luck. I read what they did to a woman (one volunteer) and the 
> study was done wrong. Nutt should never have mentioned Ecstasy or LSD 
> because those are where he shot himself in the foot. My daughter was 
> slipped some Ecstasy and did *not* like it, maybe because some guys in 
> this area use it as a date rape drug.
> LSD was really the wrong thing to mention. At maybe a 1/4 dose of LSD, not 
> the shit some people try to sell. 1/4 dose makes me very alert with 
> overtones of things I would never otherwise notice, but more than that 
> makes things weird. I have never tried Ecstasy and never will so I don't 
> know about that one, but my daughter and older stepdaughter both say it is 
> bad shit.
> McNutt needs to know when to shut up.
> A full dose (or more) of LSD is not safe to a fragile mind.
> Ecstasy is not safe for any mind.
>
> Bill Baka

"Freeballer" <freeballer@nospam.invalid> wrote in message 
news:7rmdnTTWAMIo-27X4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
> Svenne wrote:
> frightenly true from the limited experience I have. I got into a 
> discussion tonight with someone who knows a cancer patient. She was
> pretty angry that I had brought it up. I know the person in question. I 
> simply said "I don't know everything about it, but I know it should be 
> legalized. At least for medical use." I probably said too much, I did say 
> its known to help with pain and stomach issues, or help in chemo.. I kind 
> of hope she'll bring it up to that person. It would, I beleive, help the 
> quality of life.

  Perhaps a copy of "Run From The Cure" might help?

  Download the burnable DVD files from http://PhoenixTearsMovie.com or watch 
it online...

  Also available on the main page, Video section, of http:/Overgrow.ning.com

  Every bit of FACTUAL information out there helps...but only if it gets 
into the hands of the people that need it most, and BEFORE it's too late.

"Bill Baka"  wrote in message 
news:hd20al$l2f$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> Cynic wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:15:25 -0800, Bill Baka 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nutt should never have mentioned Ecstasy or LSD because those are where 
>>> he shot himself in the foot. My daughter was slipped some Ecstasy and 
>>> did *not* like it, maybe because some guys in this area use it as a date 
>>> rape drug.
>>
>> How can she be certain that it was ecstasy?
>
> She isn't but that is what was going around last year.
>>
>> That's one of the very big problems caused by prohibition.  The person
>> taking the drug can never be certain that it is the drug s/he wanted
>> and paid for.  IIUC a very high percentage of the substances sold in
>> clubs as illegal drugs are in fact home-made concoctions that do not
>> contain any illegal substances at all (though they may contain legal
>> things that are not very good for you, such as drain cleaner and rat
>> poison, because the seller want it to provoke *some* sort of
>> reaction).
>>
> Exactly why I will never accept anything from a *drug* dealer unless I 
> know him and it is only weed with no chemicals added. That kind of thing 
> has been going on since the 1960's when the dealers *stepped on it* to 
> make it seem like really good stuff. Too bad it kills your brain, fast.
> Tastes like metal/Chinese plastic so you know it isn't just pot.
> I do hope McNutt succeeds.
> Bill Baka

  Especially now...there's been a rash of crushed glass-spiked weed in major 
cities worldwide lately.

  Apparrently, the idea is that in order to make more money, the dealers 
roll the buds and remove the trichomes, pressing them into hash, and then to 
make the buds appear as though they were fine, they sprinkle them with 
crushed glass that to the nake eye, appears the same as the naturally 
occurring trichomes which were removed.  The dealer than sells the hash and 
the bugs and makes double the profit for zero added investment.  Good for 
the dealer...bad for the customer.

  It seems that these tiny crushed glass particles have a similar effect on 
the lungs as asbestos when they are smoked/inhaled.  Nice dealers, huh?

  Make it legal again and grow your own....STAY SAFE by controlling what you 
consume.

  http://Overgrow.ning.com

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:33:19 -0500, ElectroPigT wrote:

>> Exactly why I will never accept anything from a *drug* dealer unless I
>> know him and it is only weed with no chemicals added. That kind of
>> thing has been going on since the 1960's when the dealers *stepped on
>> it* to make it seem like really good stuff. Too bad it kills your
>> brain, fast. Tastes like metal/Chinese plastic so you know it isn't
>> just pot. I do hope McNutt succeeds.
>> Bill Baka
> 
>   Especially now...there's been a rash of crushed glass-spiked weed in
>   major
> cities worldwide lately.
> 

  You have got to be kidding me, they actually destroy good cannabis?  
Damn glad I live out in the country where it's safe....


later....

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ElectroPigT wrote:
> "Bill Baka"  wrote in message 
> news:hd20al$l2f$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Cynic wrote:
>>> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:15:25 -0800, Bill Baka 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nutt should never have mentioned Ecstasy or LSD because those are where 
>>>> he shot himself in the foot. My daughter was slipped some Ecstasy and 
>>>> did *not* like it, maybe because some guys in this area use it as a date 
>>>> rape drug.
>>> How can she be certain that it was ecstasy?
>> She isn't but that is what was going around last year.
>>> That's one of the very big problems caused by prohibition.  The person
>>> taking the drug can never be certain that it is the drug s/he wanted
>>> and paid for.  IIUC a very high percentage of the substances sold in
>>> clubs as illegal drugs are in fact home-made concoctions that do not
>>> contain any illegal substances at all (though they may contain legal
>>> things that are not very good for you, such as drain cleaner and rat
>>> poison, because the seller want it to provoke *some* sort of
>>> reaction).
>>>
>> Exactly why I will never accept anything from a *drug* dealer unless I 
>> know him and it is only weed with no chemicals added. That kind of thing 
>> has been going on since the 1960's when the dealers *stepped on it* to 
>> make it seem like really good stuff. Too bad it kills your brain, fast.
>> Tastes like metal/Chinese plastic so you know it isn't just pot.
>> I do hope McNutt succeeds.
>> Bill Baka
> 
>   Especially now...there's been a rash of crushed glass-spiked weed in major 
> cities worldwide lately.
> 
>   Apparrently, the idea is that in order to make more money, the dealers 
> roll the buds and remove the trichomes, pressing them into hash, and then to 
> make the buds appear as though they were fine, they sprinkle them with 
> crushed glass that to the nake eye, appears the same as the naturally 
> occurring trichomes which were removed.  The dealer than sells the hash and 
> the bugs and makes double the profit for zero added investment.  Good for 
> the dealer...bad for the customer.
> 
>   It seems that these tiny crushed glass particles have a similar effect on 
> the lungs as asbestos when they are smoked/inhaled.  Nice dealers, huh?
> 
>   Make it legal again and grow your own....STAY SAFE by controlling what you 
> consume.
> 
>   http://Overgrow.ning.com
> 
> 

another good reason for controls and not mis-information. I hear stories 
like this and makes me very weary and scared that any human could do that.

I'll watch the video a bit later. First part I saw looked promising and 
I hope its something I can show one of the other people I mentioned.
Sometimes a bit unsure about claims of health but its rather hard to 
turn a blind eye to someone who was sick or dying but is now healthy and 
alive.

-- 
"'Bill Gates can't guarantee Windows, so how in the HELL can you 
guarantee our safety!'  --John Crichton (Farscape)"

ElectroPigT wrote:
> "Bill Baka"  wrote in message 
> news:hd20al$l2f$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Cynic wrote:
>>> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:15:25 -0800, Bill Baka 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nutt should never have mentioned Ecstasy or LSD because those are where 
>>>> he shot himself in the foot. My daughter was slipped some Ecstasy and 
>>>> did *not* like it, maybe because some guys in this area use it as a date 
>>>> rape drug.
>>> How can she be certain that it was ecstasy?
>> She isn't but that is what was going around last year.
>>> That's one of the very big problems caused by prohibition.  The person
>>> taking the drug can never be certain that it is the drug s/he wanted
>>> and paid for.  IIUC a very high percentage of the substances sold in
>>> clubs as illegal drugs are in fact home-made concoctions that do not
>>> contain any illegal substances at all (though they may contain legal
>>> things that are not very good for you, such as drain cleaner and rat
>>> poison, because the seller want it to provoke *some* sort of
>>> reaction).
>>>
>> Exactly why I will never accept anything from a *drug* dealer unless I 
>> know him and it is only weed with no chemicals added. That kind of thing 
>> has been going on since the 1960's when the dealers *stepped on it* to 
>> make it seem like really good stuff. Too bad it kills your brain, fast.
>> Tastes like metal/Chinese plastic so you know it isn't just pot.
>> I do hope McNutt succeeds.
>> Bill Baka
> 
>   Especially now...there's been a rash of crushed glass-spiked weed in major 
> cities worldwide lately.
> 
>   Apparrently, the idea is that in order to make more money, the dealers 
> roll the buds and remove the trichomes, pressing them into hash, and then to 
> make the buds appear as though they were fine, they sprinkle them with 
> crushed glass that to the nake eye, appears the same as the naturally 
> occurring trichomes which were removed.  The dealer than sells the hash and 
> the bugs and makes double the profit for zero added investment.  Good for 
> the dealer...bad for the customer.
> 
>   It seems that these tiny crushed glass particles have a similar effect on 
> the lungs as asbestos when they are smoked/inhaled.  Nice dealers, huh?
> 
>   Make it legal again and grow your own....STAY SAFE by controlling what you 
> consume.
> 
>   http://Overgrow.ning.com
> 
> 

	Really sounds like a DEA fantasy.  Terrorists might do something like
that but not your friendly neighborhood dealer who needs your business
to stay in business.  After all the DEA triggered the home growing wave
by spraying dangerous herbicide on pot fields in Mexico.

	As a result the seeds from Columbian Gold started going
into home gardens indoors and out.

	later
	bliss

Same thing with "the monkey study" that is still being quoted today as 
proof that cannabis kills brain cells...even though it was WHOLLY 
DISCREDITED decades ago!

  People get a stupid idea into their heads and don't bother to verify it at 
all, and even though the truth has been out there "in the wild" for years, 
they haven't been told the truth by the same news sources that told them the 
lie, because it's not in the interests of the news media to tell the truth 
if it contradicts corporate values.

  Note:  The complete list of Corporate values are "Profit at all costs, to 
the benefit of shareholders."

  Interestingly enough, that is also the complete list of legal 
responsibilities of a corporation...

"Bill Baka"  wrote in message 
news:hct0f8$fvg$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> john smith wrote:
>> "Bill Baka"  wrote in message
>> news:hcsncv$r1u$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> John Watson wrote:
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8342454.stm
>>> I wish him luck. I read what they did to a woman (one volunteer) and the
>>> study was done wrong. Nutt should never have mentioned Ecstasy or LSD
>>> because those are where he shot himself in the foot. My daughter was
>>> slipped some Ecstasy and did *not* like it, maybe because some guys in
>>> this area use it as a date rape drug.
>>> LSD was really the wrong thing to mention. At maybe a 1/4 dose of LSD, 
>>> not
>>> the shit some people try to sell. 1/4 dose makes me very alert with
>>> overtones of things I would never otherwise notice, but more than that
>>> makes things weird. I have never tried Ecstasy and never will so I don't
>>> know about that one, but my daughter and older stepdaughter both say it 
>>> is
>>> bad shit.
>>> McNutt needs to know when to shut up.
>>> A full dose (or more) of LSD is not safe to a fragile mind.
>>> Ecstasy is not safe for any mind.
>>
>>
>>
>> How do you know if you've never personally taken it?
>>
>>
>>
>>> Bill Baka
>>
>>
>>
> I don't hang out in bars where guys like to buy a girl a drink with a 
> little something extra. My daughter gave up on bars after that happened.
> McNutt should have stuck with one thing at a time, pot.
> The other flaw in the whole story is that the researchers (bad ones) 
> actually injected her with straight *skunk* oil. Pot is not an IV drug and 
> those British idiots should know that. The *one* test subject was a 
> professional drug test volunteer and she complains that it *ruined* her 
> mind.
> Can you say bogus testing on a flawed subject just to get the results they 
> wanted?
> Politicians want power and don't really care if they ruin 40% of people's 
> lives as long as the other 60% will get him back into office.
> My stepdaughter was at a friend's house and tried some *skunk* and after 
> one hit she said enough. I asked her and she said it tasted like chemicals 
> and metal, which is a sure tip off that somebody got some junk pot and 
> juiced it with PCP. If I can find the guy I will tip the cops to it. I 
> need my stepdaughter to get a sample for the police.
> If you don't know what I am talking about, read up. Greedy drug dealers 
> used to add this crap to pot to make it seem like kick ass weed but all it 
> did was seek and destroy brain cells.
> Is that any help?
>
> Bill Baka

The biggest problem with "winning" is that there are hundreds of "splinter 
groups" that think THEIR slice of the pie is what's going to win it...and 
when they consistently fail, they wonder why their tiny little sub-group 
didn't manage to convince the entire planet that the truth is valid.

  Overgrow The World! exists to change that...  http://Overgrow.ning.com

  Hit it...spread the word...then spread the seeds next spring!  d=^)

  With everyone working towards a common goal, why does there need to be so 
many tiny failures, with a concerted WIN would work so much better for the 
world?

"Usenet Nutter"  wrote in message 
news:em14f518dulsd2uq70cfh30sjoogccc8ff@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:50:14 -0800, Bill Baka 
> wrote:
>
>>I don't hang out in bars where guys like to buy a girl a drink with a
>>little something extra. My daughter gave up on bars after that happened.
>>McNutt should have stuck with one thing at a time, pot.
>>The other flaw in the whole story is that the researchers (bad ones)
>>actually injected her with straight *skunk* oil. Pot is not an IV drug
>>and those British idiots should know that. The *one* test subject was a
>>professional drug test volunteer and she complains that it *ruined* her
>>mind.
>>Can you say bogus testing on a flawed subject just to get the results
>>they wanted?
>>Politicians want power and don't really care if they ruin 40% of
>>people's lives as long as the other 60% will get him back into office.
>>My stepdaughter was at a friend's house and tried some *skunk* and after
>>one hit she said enough. I asked her and she said it tasted like
>>chemicals and metal, which is a sure tip off that somebody got some junk
>>pot and juiced it with PCP. If I can find the guy I will tip the cops to
>>it. I need my stepdaughter to get a sample for the police.
>>If you don't know what I am talking about, read up. Greedy drug dealers
>>used to add this crap to pot to make it seem like kick ass weed but all
>>it did was seek and destroy brain cells.
>>Is that any help?
>>
>>Bill Baka
>
> All the more reason to make it legal and control it's production ..How
> long have we been fighting the war against drugs ..Are we winning it?

"Freeballer" <freeballer@nospam.invalid> wrote in message 
news:ub-dnY9cVIi2JGTXRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
> ElectroPigT wrote:
>> "Bill Baka"  wrote in message 
>> news:hd20al$l2f$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Cynic wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:15:25 -0800, Bill Baka 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nutt should never have mentioned Ecstasy or LSD because those 
>>>>> are where he shot himself in the foot. My daughter was slipped 
>>>>> some Ecstasy and did *not* like it, maybe because some guys in 
>>>>> this area use it as a date rape drug.
>>>> How can she be certain that it was ecstasy?
>>> She isn't but that is what was going around last year.
>>>> That's one of the very big problems caused by prohibition.  The 
>>>> person
>>>> taking the drug can never be certain that it is the drug s/he 
>>>> wanted
>>>> and paid for.  IIUC a very high percentage of the substances sold 
>>>> in
>>>> clubs as illegal drugs are in fact home-made concoctions that do 
>>>> not
>>>> contain any illegal substances at all (though they may contain 
>>>> legal
>>>> things that are not very good for you, such as drain cleaner and 
>>>> rat
>>>> poison, because the seller want it to provoke *some* sort of
>>>> reaction).
>>>>
>>> Exactly why I will never accept anything from a *drug* dealer 
>>> unless I know him and it is only weed with no chemicals added. 
>>> That kind of thing has been going on since the 1960's when the 
>>> dealers *stepped on it* to make it seem like really good stuff. 
>>> Too bad it kills your brain, fast.
>>> Tastes like metal/Chinese plastic so you know it isn't just pot.
>>> I do hope McNutt succeeds.
>>> Bill Baka
>>
>>   Especially now...there's been a rash of crushed glass-spiked weed 
>> in major cities worldwide lately.
>>
>>   Apparrently, the idea is that in order to make more money, the 
>> dealers roll the buds and remove the trichomes, pressing them into 
>> hash, and then to make the buds appear as though they were fine, 
>> they sprinkle them with crushed glass that to the nake eye, appears 
>> the same as the naturally occurring trichomes which were removed. 
>> The dealer than sells the hash and the bugs and makes double the 
>> profit for zero added investment.  Good for the dealer...bad for 
>> the customer.
>>
>>   It seems that these tiny crushed glass particles have a similar 
>> effect on the lungs as asbestos when they are smoked/inhaled.  Nice 
>> dealers, huh?
>>
>>   Make it legal again and grow your own....STAY SAFE by controlling 
>> what you consume.
>>
>>   http://Overgrow.ning.com
>>
>>
>
> another good reason for controls and not mis-information. I hear 
> stories like this and makes me very weary and scared that any human 
> could do that.
>
Some people will do absolutely anything for money, even go as far as 
declaring certain plants illegal.

Noticed at Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:33:19 -0500: ElectroPigT informed us:

>   Especially now...there's been a rash of crushed glass-spiked weed in
>   major
> cities worldwide lately.

I know that was happening in the UK, but was unaware that it was a
world-wide problem.

-- 
John Watson
London

"John Watson"  wrote in message
news:7lv4f5F3dl6teU1@mid.individual.net...
> Noticed at Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:33:19 -0500: ElectroPigT informed us:
>
> >   Especially now...there's been a rash of crushed glass-spiked weed in
> >   major
> > cities worldwide lately.
>
> I know that was happening in the UK, but was unaware that it was a
> world-wide problem.

I seriously doubt that drug dealers would ground up glass
an put it in weed on purpose. Much easier to dilute it with
oregano or any other cheap substitute.

What I think happend with 'grit weed' is this. When you
use High Intenity Discharge (HID) lamps, they get very hot, and
if you even spray a single drop of water or nutrients on them,
they explode. I think one batch had a lamp explode over it and
the pot wasn't thrown away.

Noticed at Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:07:20 +0100: 5trfg6h7 informed us:

> "John Watson"  wrote in message
> news:7lv4f5F3dl6teU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Noticed at Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:33:19 -0500: ElectroPigT informed us:
>>
>> >   Especially now...there's been a rash of crushed glass-spiked weed in
>> >   major
>> > cities worldwide lately.
>>
>> I know that was happening in the UK, but was unaware that it was a
>> world-wide problem.
> 
> I seriously doubt that drug dealers would ground up glass an put it in
> weed on purpose. Much easier to dilute it with oregano or any other cheap
> substitute.
> 
> What I think happend with 'grit weed' is this. When you use High Intenity
> Discharge (HID) lamps, they get very hot, and if you even spray a single
> drop of water or nutrients on them, they explode. I think one batch had a
> lamp explode over it and the pot wasn't thrown away.

http://www.gritweed.co.uk/

-- 
John Watson
London

ElectroPigT wrote:
> "Bill Baka"  wrote in message 
> news:hd20al$l2f$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Exactly why I will never accept anything from a *drug* dealer unless I 
>> know him and it is only weed with no chemicals added. That kind of thing 
>> has been going on since the 1960's when the dealers *stepped on it* to 
>> make it seem like really good stuff. Too bad it kills your brain, fast.
>> Tastes like metal/Chinese plastic so you know it isn't just pot.
>> I do hope McNutt succeeds.
>> Bill Baka
> 
>   Especially now...there's been a rash of crushed glass-spiked weed in major 
> cities worldwide lately.

That is one reason I refine my smoke, not just for 10x better smoke but 
also to filter out and impurities (like glass). Finally I run my solvent 
/mix through a coffee filter to make sure there is *nothing* in my smoke.
> 
>   Apparrently, the idea is that in order to make more money, the dealers 
> roll the buds and remove the trichomes, pressing them into hash, and then to 
> make the buds appear as though they were fine, they sprinkle them with 
> crushed glass that to the nake eye, appears the same as the naturally 
> occurring trichomes which were removed.  The dealer than sells the hash and 
> the bugs and makes double the profit for zero added investment.  Good for 
> the dealer...bad for the customer.

Solution; Find the dealer who do this and when 6 or more are found and 
obviously guilty, line them up against a wall and empty 6 Thompson 
machine guns into them. Do this on live TV, all channels, and the 
message would be "The penalty for *making* know harmful drugs.
> 
>   It seems that these tiny crushed glass particles have a similar effect on 
> the lungs as asbestos when they are smoked/inhaled.  Nice dealers, huh?

Wall, machine guns, problem solved.
> 
>   Make it legal again and grow your own....STAY SAFE by controlling what you 
> consume.

I do or at least refine even the buds I sometimes get. Even the buds 
around here don't hold up to "Mexican Dirt Weed" from the 1970's. Yet 
the FDA is insisting the new stuff is too strong.
ROTFLMAO!
> 
>   http://Overgrow.ning.com
> 
> 
Cheers,
Bill Baka

Mitchell wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:33:19 -0500, ElectroPigT wrote:
> 
>>> Exactly why I will never accept anything from a *drug* dealer unless I
>>> know him and it is only weed with no chemicals added. That kind of
>>> thing has been going on since the 1960's when the dealers *stepped on
>>> it* to make it seem like really good stuff. Too bad it kills your
>>> brain, fast. Tastes like metal/Chinese plastic so you know it isn't
>>> just pot. I do hope McNutt succeeds.
>>> Bill Baka
>>   Especially now...there's been a rash of crushed glass-spiked weed in
>>   major
>> cities worldwide lately.
>>
> 
>   You have got to be kidding me, they actually destroy good cannabis?  
> Damn glad I live out in the country where it's safe....
> 
> 
> later....
> 
That just makes me glad I don't live in a big city and don't buy there.
With me temper I would be knocking on his door with at least 2 guns on 
my person. I'm mellow but some son of a bitch tries to ruin my health I 
will ruin his, permanently. I would call that a 'civil service'.
Bill Baka

ElectroPigT wrote:
>   Same thing with "the monkey study" that is still being quoted today as 
> proof that cannabis kills brain cells...even though it was WHOLLY 
> DISCREDITED decades ago!

How exactly does one determine a monkey's IQ and if it has gone down?
I am 61 and have smoked probably tons of weed in the last 44 years with 
no down side. I actually tried to overdose on some good home grown
(by me) and refined down to hash oil. This gets the wood fiber and pulp 
out so I am not making anything, just purifying what I do have. Anyway, 
I smoked this super-pot as much as I could, cleaned the fridge, and went 
to sleep. It would have been totally impossible to drive that stoned, so 
I never try. I can smoke until lights out and never, ever get the urge 
to drive *anywhere* while under the influence, even just a light buzz.
> 
>   People get a stupid idea into their heads and don't bother to verify it at 
> all, and even though the truth has been out there "in the wild" for years, 
> they haven't been told the truth by the same news sources that told them the 
> lie, because it's not in the interests of the news media to tell the truth 
> if it contradicts corporate values.

Like big Alcohol and Tobacco interests? The tobacco farmers could 
convert to pot with no trouble at all. Alcohol will always be a sticking 
point ever since the failed 'Prohibition' of the 1920's. William 
Randolph Hearst is the primary reason pot is illegal. He made fake 
headlines about pot and them damned "Niggers" raping our fine white 
women and it made white women want to have sex with black men.
"Niggers" was his term, I only use it for reference in a quote.
> 
>   Note:  The complete list of Corporate values are "Profit at all costs, to 
> the benefit of shareholders."
> 
>   Interestingly enough, that is also the complete list of legal 
> responsibilities of a corporation...
>
Is "Create a criminal" one of their goals? Arrest a young pot smoker and 
toss him in jail and he comes out re-rehabilitated all right, with new 
friends and no more college career in sight.
*GREAT F'ING DRUG LAWS WE HAVE*
There is no rehabilitation in jail, just body warehousing.
Enough rant.
Bill Baka

Bill Baka wrote:
> ElectroPigT wrote:
>> "Bill Baka"  wrote in message 
>> news:hd20al$l2f$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Exactly why I will never accept anything from a *drug* dealer unless 
>>> I know him and it is only weed with no chemicals added. That kind of 
>>> thing has been going on since the 1960's when the dealers *stepped on 
>>> it* to make it seem like really good stuff. Too bad it kills your 
>>> brain, fast.
>>> Tastes like metal/Chinese plastic so you know it isn't just pot.
>>> I do hope McNutt succeeds.
>>> Bill Baka
>>
>>   Especially now...there's been a rash of crushed glass-spiked weed in 
>> major cities worldwide lately.
> 
> That is one reason I refine my smoke, not just for 10x better smoke but 
> also to filter out and impurities (like glass). Finally I run my solvent 
> /mix through a coffee filter to make sure there is *nothing* in my smoke.
>>

So you smoke through a coffee filter? like at the end of a bong or 
something? if so, do you find it easier to smoke (coughing, harshness)?


>>   Apparrently, the idea is that in order to make more money, the 
>> dealers roll the buds and remove the trichomes, pressing them into 
>> hash, and then to make the buds appear as though they were fine, they 
>> sprinkle them with crushed glass that to the nake eye, appears the 
>> same as the naturally occurring trichomes which were removed.  The 
>> dealer than sells the hash and the bugs and makes double the profit 
>> for zero added investment.  Good for the dealer...bad for the customer.
> 
> Solution; Find the dealer who do this and when 6 or more are found and 
> obviously guilty, line them up against a wall and empty 6 Thompson 
> machine guns into them. Do this on live TV, all channels, and the 
> message would be "The penalty for *making* know harmful drugs.
>>
>>   It seems that these tiny crushed glass particles have a similar 
>> effect on the lungs as asbestos when they are smoked/inhaled.  Nice 
>> dealers, huh?
> 
> Wall, machine guns, problem solved.
>>
>>   Make it legal again and grow your own....STAY SAFE by controlling 
>> what you consume.
> 
> I do or at least refine even the buds I sometimes get. Even the buds 
> around here don't hold up to "Mexican Dirt Weed" from the 1970's. Yet 
> the FDA is insisting the new stuff is too strong.
> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>>   http://Overgrow.ning.com
>>
>>
> Cheers,
> Bill Baka


-- 
"'Bill Gates can't guarantee Windows, so how in the HELL can you 
guarantee our safety!'  --John Crichton (Farscape)"

Freeballer smart ass alert!!!!!!!!!

Freeballer wrote:
> Bill Baka wrote:
>> ElectroPigT wrote:
>>> "Bill Baka"  wrote in message 
>>> news:hd20al$l2f$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Exactly why I will never accept anything from a *drug* dealer unless 
>>>> I know him and it is only weed with no chemicals added. That kind of 
>>>> thing has been going on since the 1960's when the dealers *stepped 
>>>> on it* to make it seem like really good stuff. Too bad it kills your 
>>>> brain, fast.
>>>> Tastes like metal/Chinese plastic so you know it isn't just pot.
>>>> I do hope McNutt succeeds.
>>>> Bill Baka
>>>
>>>   Especially now...there's been a rash of crushed glass-spiked weed 
>>> in major cities worldwide lately.
>>
>> That is one reason I refine my smoke, not just for 10x better smoke 
>> but also to filter out and impurities (like glass). Finally I run my 
>> solvent /mix through a coffee filter to make sure there is *nothing* 
>> in my smoke.
>>>
> 
> So you smoke through a coffee filter? like at the end of a bong or 
> something? if so, do you find it easier to smoke (coughing, harshness)?

*IDIOT* If you don't have a clue, don't post. Trying to rag on me when I 
post *facts* does not make your idiotic posts look intelligent.
> 
> 
>>>   Apparrently, the idea is that in order to make more money, the 
>>> dealers roll the buds and remove the trichomes, pressing them into 
>>> hash, and then to make the buds appear as though they were fine, they 
>>> sprinkle them with crushed glass that to the nake eye, appears the 
>>> same as the naturally occurring trichomes which were removed.  The 
>>> dealer than sells the hash and the bugs and makes double the profit 
>>> for zero added investment.  Good for the dealer...bad for the customer.
>>
>> Solution; Find the dealer who do this and when 6 or more are found and 
>> obviously guilty, line them up against a wall and empty 6 Thompson 
>> machine guns into them. Do this on live TV, all channels, and the 
>> message would be "The penalty for *making* know harmful drugs.
>>>
>>>   It seems that these tiny crushed glass particles have a similar 
>>> effect on the lungs as asbestos when they are smoked/inhaled.  Nice 
>>> dealers, huh?
>>
>> Wall, machine guns, problem solved.
>>>
>>>   Make it legal again and grow your own....STAY SAFE by controlling 
>>> what you consume.
>>
>> I do or at least refine even the buds I sometimes get. Even the buds 
>> around here don't hold up to "Mexican Dirt Weed" from the 1970's. Yet 
>> the FDA is insisting the new stuff is too strong.
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>>
>>>   http://Overgrow.ning.com
>>>
>>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bill Baka
> 
> 
Bill Baka (again)

"Bill Baka"  wrote in message
news:he7089$f25$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> Mitchell wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:33:19 -0500, ElectroPigT wrote:
>>
>>>> Exactly why I will never accept anything from a *drug* dealer unless I
>>>> know him and it is only weed with no chemicals added. That kind of
>>>> thing has been going on since the 1960's when the dealers *stepped on
>>>> it* to make it seem like really good stuff. Too bad it kills your
>>>> brain, fast. Tastes like metal/Chinese plastic so you know it isn't
>>>> just pot. I do hope McNutt succeeds.
>>>> Bill Baka
>>>   Especially now...there's been a rash of crushed glass-spiked weed in
>>>   major
>>> cities worldwide lately.
>>>
>>
>>   You have got to be kidding me, they actually destroy good cannabis?
>> Damn glad I live out in the country where it's safe....
>>
>>
>> later....
>>
> That just makes me glad I don't live in a big city and don't buy there.
> With me temper I would be knocking on his door with at least 2 guns on my
> person.

I'm glad I don't live in a big city where the junkies are running around
with at least 2 guns.

Bill Baka wrote:
> Freeballer smart ass alert!!!!!!!!!
> 
> Freeballer wrote:
>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>> ElectroPigT wrote:
>>>> "Bill Baka"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:hd20al$l2f$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Exactly why I will never accept anything from a *drug* dealer 
>>>>> unless I know him and it is only weed with no chemicals added. That 
>>>>> kind of thing has been going on since the 1960's when the dealers 
>>>>> *stepped on it* to make it seem like really good stuff. Too bad it 
>>>>> kills your brain, fast.
>>>>> Tastes like metal/Chinese plastic so you know it isn't just pot.
>>>>> I do hope McNutt succeeds.
>>>>> Bill Baka
>>>>
>>>>   Especially now...there's been a rash of crushed glass-spiked weed 
>>>> in major cities worldwide lately.
>>>
>>> That is one reason I refine my smoke, not just for 10x better smoke 
>>> but also to filter out and impurities (like glass). Finally I run my 
>>> solvent /mix through a coffee filter to make sure there is *nothing* 
>>> in my smoke.
>>>>
>>
>> So you smoke through a coffee filter? like at the end of a bong or 
>> something? if so, do you find it easier to smoke (coughing, harshness)?
> 
> *IDIOT* If you don't have a clue, don't post. Trying to rag on me when I 
> post *facts* does not make your idiotic posts look intelligent.
>>
>>
>>>>   Apparrently, the idea is that in order to make more money, the 
>>>> dealers roll the buds and remove the trichomes, pressing them into 
>>>> hash, and then to make the buds appear as though they were fine, 
>>>> they sprinkle them with crushed glass that to the nake eye, appears 
>>>> the same as the naturally occurring trichomes which were removed.  
>>>> The dealer than sells the hash and the bugs and makes double the 
>>>> profit for zero added investment.  Good for the dealer...bad for the 
>>>> customer.
>>>
>>> Solution; Find the dealer who do this and when 6 or more are found 
>>> and obviously guilty, line them up against a wall and empty 6 
>>> Thompson machine guns into them. Do this on live TV, all channels, 
>>> and the message would be "The penalty for *making* know harmful drugs.
>>>>
>>>>   It seems that these tiny crushed glass particles have a similar 
>>>> effect on the lungs as asbestos when they are smoked/inhaled.  Nice 
>>>> dealers, huh?
>>>
>>> Wall, machine guns, problem solved.
>>>>
>>>>   Make it legal again and grow your own....STAY SAFE by controlling 
>>>> what you consume.
>>>
>>> I do or at least refine even the buds I sometimes get. Even the buds 
>>> around here don't hold up to "Mexican Dirt Weed" from the 1970's. Yet 
>>> the FDA is insisting the new stuff is too strong.
>>> ROTFLMAO!
>>>>
>>>>   http://Overgrow.ning.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Bill Baka
>>
>>
> Bill Baka (again)


wow. Take a pill or smoke some and calm down. jeesh
I was actually half serious on that one. I WAS actually asking how you 
would do that through a coffee filter, though the end of a bong was 
suppost to be *somewhat* comical. sorry if I struck a nerve

-- 
"'Bill Gates can't guarantee Windows, so how in the HELL can you 
guarantee our safety!'  --John Crichton (Farscape)"

Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
> 
> "Bill Baka"  wrote in message
> news:he7089$f25$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Mitchell wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:33:19 -0500, ElectroPigT wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Exactly why I will never accept anything from a *drug* dealer unless I
>>>>> know him and it is only weed with no chemicals added. That kind of
>>>>> thing has been going on since the 1960's when the dealers *stepped on
>>>>> it* to make it seem like really good stuff. Too bad it kills your
>>>>> brain, fast. Tastes like metal/Chinese plastic so you know it isn't
>>>>> just pot. I do hope McNutt succeeds.
>>>>> Bill Baka
>>>>   Especially now...there's been a rash of crushed glass-spiked weed in
>>>>   major
>>>> cities worldwide lately.
>>>>
>>>
>>>   You have got to be kidding me, they actually destroy good cannabis?
>>> Damn glad I live out in the country where it's safe....
>>>
>>>
>>> later....
>>>
>> That just makes me glad I don't live in a big city and don't buy there.
>> With me temper I would be knocking on his door with at least 2 guns on my
>> person.
> 
> I'm glad I don't live in a big city where the junkies are running around
> with at least 2 guns.
> 
We don't have that many junkies but a fair amount of drive by shootings, 
and it isn't just my area, but all of California. As to the term 
"Junkie", it does not apply to pot smokers, period.
No matter how stoned I get I always wake up refreshed, some times too 
refreshed and need coffee for a kick start. The only side effect was 
that all the stoners (me included) had six pack abs from laughing so 
hard at otherwise unremarkable radio shows. We had one very smart girl 
who asked the perfectly reasonable question "If they are going to name 
Hurricanes after men shouldn't we call the Himmicanes?" We laughed so 
hard we cried on that one.
Bye,
Bill Baka

Freeballer wrote:
> 
> 
> wow. Take a pill or smoke some and calm down. jeesh

I'm fine and not stoned so I just fired back at you.
My bad!

> I was actually half serious on that one.

I figured that out just after sending the post.

  I WAS actually asking how you
> would do that through a coffee filter, though the end of a bong was 
> suppost to be *somewhat* comical. sorry if I struck a nerve
> 
Sometimes my sense of humor is broken, but not for long.
I can filter through a piece of cloth but a coffee filter seems about 
ten times better at the small stuff. I may smoke pot but it is mostly 
for bedtime use, so I am not a typical druggie. College really was a 
double major for me, first electronics, second chemistry, third any 
science class I could get into.
Anyway,
No problem on my end, joking is joking.
Bill Baka

Bill Baka wrote:
> Freeballer wrote:
>>
>>
>> wow. Take a pill or smoke some and calm down. jeesh
> 
> I'm fine and not stoned so I just fired back at you.
> My bad!
> 
>> I was actually half serious on that one.
> 
> I figured that out just after sending the post.
> 
>  I WAS actually asking how you
>> would do that through a coffee filter, though the end of a bong was 
>> suppost to be *somewhat* comical. sorry if I struck a nerve
>>
> Sometimes my sense of humor is broken, but not for long.
> I can filter through a piece of cloth but a coffee filter seems about 
> ten times better at the small stuff. I may smoke pot but it is mostly 
> for bedtime use, so I am not a typical druggie. College really was a 
> double major for me, first electronics, second chemistry, third any 
> science class I could get into.
> Anyway,
> No problem on my end, joking is joking.
> Bill Baka

cool. No worries at all, was kind of a lame joke. I usually have a puff 
before bed but also helps in migrane and back pain. <-- have asthma too
not a typical "pot head" I'd say

-- 
"'Bill Gates can't guarantee Windows, so how in the HELL can you 
guarantee our safety!'  --John Crichton (Farscape)"

Freeballer wrote:
> Bill Baka wrote:
>> Sometimes my sense of humor is broken, but not for long.
>> I can filter through a piece of cloth but a coffee filter seems about 
>> ten times better at the small stuff. I may smoke pot but it is mostly 
>> for bedtime use, so I am not a typical druggie. College really was a 
>> double major for me, first electronics, second chemistry, third any 
>> science class I could get into.
>> Anyway,
>> No problem on my end, joking is joking.
>> Bill Baka
> 
> cool. No worries at all, was kind of a lame joke. I usually have a puff 
> before bed but also helps in migrane and back pain. <-- have asthma too
> not a typical "pot head" I'd say
> 
Ouch. Pain at bedtime is no fun. In my case I am a perfectly healthy 61 
and my insomnia is primary, not Apnea or any of those breathing 
disorders. The sleep 'specialists' around here can't do anything more 
than prescribe an oxygen tank and a mask for forced ventilation.
No prescription drug has much of any effect on me so I smoke a bit and I 
am off to sleep.

BTW, way too much cross posting going on.

Bill Baka