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date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:54:54 GMT,    group: uk.politics.animals        back       
Re: No Escape for Seal Pups   
"pearl"  wrote in message 
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> "Paul Morgan"  wrote in message 
> news:5hop04tnhfp3ihlbqndgl26ma2p6r6qceb@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:05:38 +0100, "pearl" 
>> wrote:
> ..
>> >'According to Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO) the justification
>> >for the hunt is to provide economic opportunities for Canada's
>> >coastal communities. ' http://tinyurl.com/3rp4zj . See claim above.
>> >
>> >It concerns Canadians.  Or would you rather they didn't know..?
>>
>> Canadians do know, why that should bother a foreigner like yourself
>> though....
>
> They do now.  :).

There is a silver lining in every cloud.  Through this thread I've learned 
that Pearlies type of "activism" can be shot down without much effort.  Once 
you start exposing that there isn't any credible science or research behind 
their claims, they start turning blue in the face and grasping at straws. 
How to defeat an ARA: ask her for FACTS backed by genuine peer-reviewed 
science.

>> >> As a self-confessed exploiter of animals you really have no
>> >> credibility.
>> >
>> >'The serial bully:
>> >..
>> >is constantly imposing on others a false reality made up of
>> >distortion and fabrication
>> >...'
>> >http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/serial.htm
>> >
>> >--------------------------------------------------------
>> >'ex·ploit
>> >..
>> >2. To make use of selfishly or unethically:
>>
>> What does the horse get for working for you?
>
> What work?  Do tell me more about what I do.  lol.

Why do you keep animals as pets?  Surely you could give them away to caring 
homes, or simply not replace them when they die, so there appears to be a 
selfish motivation on your part.  It seems strange that an animal 
liberationist would keep pets.  There really is no justification for your 
hypocrisy.

>> I have no trouble eating the flesh of animals. I can live with myself.
>> If someone doesn't want to eat meat, that's fine with me. If someone
>> bitches continually at me for eating meat or killing an animal for
>> meat
>
> When you quit imposing yourself on others we'll do likewise, 'k.

What imposition?  I've asked you to explain how seal hunters are imposing on 
you, so far silence.

>> while killing unborn chickens
>
> Dumbass troll, get an education.
>
>> or keeping horses in servitude,
>
> Must go, they're waiting for their evening treat.

The seals are getting a treat, too.  Less competition for food.

>> then they are a hypocrite and have no credibility.
>>
>> Guess which one you are.
>
> I know what I am, and I know what you are too.  ^
date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:54:54 GMT   author:   Chom Noamsky

Re: No Escape for Seal Pups   
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:54:54 GMT, "Chom Noamsky"  wrote:

>
>"pearl"  wrote in message 
>news:fuiqbg$67b$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>> "Paul Morgan"  wrote in message 
>> news:5hop04tnhfp3ihlbqndgl26ma2p6r6qceb@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:05:38 +0100, "pearl" 
>>> wrote:
>> ..
>>> >'According to Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO) the justification
>>> >for the hunt is to provide economic opportunities for Canada's
>>> >coastal communities. ' http://tinyurl.com/3rp4zj . See claim above.
>>> >
>>> >It concerns Canadians.  Or would you rather they didn't know..?
>>>
>>> Canadians do know, why that should bother a foreigner like yourself
>>> though....
>>
>> They do now.  :).
>
>There is a silver lining in every cloud.  Through this thread I've learned 
>that Pearlies type of "activism" can be shot down without much effort.  Once 
>you start exposing that there isn't any credible science or research behind 
>their claims, they start turning blue in the face and grasping at straws. 
>How to defeat an ARA: ask her for FACTS backed by genuine peer-reviewed 
>science.
>


When the seals are safe I wonder what the ARA's will go after next?
Do you hunt Chom?
date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:58:47 -0300   author:   Paul Morgan

Re: No Escape for Seal Pups   
Paul Morgan wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:54:54 GMT, "Chom Noamsky"  wrote:
> 
>> "pearl"  wrote in message 
>> news:fuiqbg$67b$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>>> "Paul Morgan"  wrote in message 
>>> news:5hop04tnhfp3ihlbqndgl26ma2p6r6qceb@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:05:38 +0100, "pearl" 
>>>> wrote:
>>> ..
>>>>> 'According to Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO) the justification
>>>>> for the hunt is to provide economic opportunities for Canada's
>>>>> coastal communities. ' http://tinyurl.com/3rp4zj . See claim above.
>>>>>
>>>>> It concerns Canadians.  Or would you rather they didn't know..?
>>>> Canadians do know, why that should bother a foreigner like yourself
>>>> though....
>>> They do now.  :).
>> There is a silver lining in every cloud.  Through this thread I've learned 
>> that Pearlies type of "activism" can be shot down without much effort.  Once 
>> you start exposing that there isn't any credible science or research behind 
>> their claims, they start turning blue in the face and grasping at straws. 
>> How to defeat an ARA: ask her for FACTS backed by genuine peer-reviewed 
>> science.
>>
> 
> 
> When the seals are safe I wonder what the ARA's will go after next?
> Do you hunt Chom?

"aras" have virtually no real influence.  They're (heh heh) all sizzle 
and no steak.
date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:09:39 -0700   author:   Rudy Canoza

Re: No Escape for Seal Pups   
"Paul Morgan"  wrote in message 
news:3f3q045rtq10egos8qqepq1b886prhjs8a@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:54:54 GMT, "Chom Noamsky"  wrote:
>
>>
>>"pearl"  wrote in message
>>news:fuiqbg$67b$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>>> "Paul Morgan"  wrote in message
>>> news:5hop04tnhfp3ihlbqndgl26ma2p6r6qceb@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:05:38 +0100, "pearl" 
>>>> wrote:
>>> ..
>>>> >'According to Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO) the justification
>>>> >for the hunt is to provide economic opportunities for Canada's
>>>> >coastal communities. ' http://tinyurl.com/3rp4zj . See claim above.
>>>> >
>>>> >It concerns Canadians.  Or would you rather they didn't know..?
>>>>
>>>> Canadians do know, why that should bother a foreigner like yourself
>>>> though....
>>>
>>> They do now.  :).
>>
>>There is a silver lining in every cloud.  Through this thread I've learned
>>that Pearlies type of "activism" can be shot down without much effort. 
>>Once
>>you start exposing that there isn't any credible science or research 
>>behind
>>their claims, they start turning blue in the face and grasping at straws.
>>How to defeat an ARA: ask her for FACTS backed by genuine peer-reviewed
>>science.
>>
>
>
> When the seals are safe I wonder what the ARA's will go after next?

Why not cod?  The cod are in a lot more trouble than seals.  Can you imagine 
if the ARAs used the same type of propaganda with cod as they do wti hseals? 
A picture of a cod getting clubbed and filleted alive would look like a 
dinner menu.

> Do you hunt Chom?

Only what me and my family eat.  That would be on average two bucks a year. 
Organic and pure.
date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:25:05 GMT   author:   Chom Noamsky

Re: No Escape for Seal Pups   
Chom Noamsky  wrote: 
> Why not cod?  The cod are in a lot more trouble than seals.  Can you imagine 
> if the ARAs used the same type of propaganda with cod as they do wti hseals? 
> A picture of a cod getting clubbed and filleted alive would look like a 
> dinner menu.
> 
Yes, but a Cod fish doesn't look like a pet!  A cuddly cod?

Well, a Catfish has whiskers (like a Seal), and still doesn't look like a 
cuddly pet!

The clubbing of a seal, when it happens, is not a cruel death anyway.  The 
head of a seal at that age is fragile like an egg, and a good swat is easily 
as humane as how a cow or a pig is killed in the most humane of situations.  

The skull is crushed instantly!


Shit!  I'm still seeing images of baby white seals "getting it" in some 
mainstream news articles in pictures!

But like you said earlier in this thread, preserving the habitat is 
important.  That's why there is an annual cull of deer!   This is no 
different.

The American Humane Society is not like the World Wildlife Fund.


The two organizations are not even close to being the same.

In fact, if the seal hunt was cancelled forever, The American Humane Society 
would need to find another source of public intrest to sustain themselves.

The WWF sees the seal hunt as being humane and well managed.
date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:01:17 -0400   author:   Geert

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