Squirrel Massacre
Posted 29 January 2008

http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/NEWS/news_wildlife/ALL/1729//
Almost 12,000 grey squirrels have been poisoned to death or shot in
the past year in a ‘cull’ funded by the government. The killings took
place in Northumberland and were undertaken - it was said - to protect
the red squirrel. Grey squirrels are charged with driving reds from
their homes, infecting them with viruses and destroying woodlands.

In reality, red squirrels suffered badly from deforestation, severe
winters and epidemic diseases long before grey squirrels arrived in
the UK. Despite their decline to near extinction in the eighteenth
century, hundreds of thousands of red squirrels continued to be killed
by clubs for a bounty. The organised killing of reds continued until
the 1930s. Since then, fashions have changed and the red squirrel is
back in vogue.

It is interesting to note that main proponents of squirrel culls are
those with forestry interests, supporters of field sports or
gamekeepers.

Two years ago, Lord Plumb speaking in the House of Lords, called for a
cull of grey squirrels. He said: ‘Some 60 years ago the Ministry of
Agriculture started to encourage people to kill squirrels, offering—I
remember it only too clearly—a shilling a tail. I became a very
wealthy young man at that time, as we had a lot of grey squirrels in
the area and I did not need a lot of encouragement to do something
about them. When the government at that time had paid out some
£250,000, they decided that that was enough. There was no perceivable
difference to the squirrel population.’

On this final point, he is right. Culls of grey squirrels do not work.
Recent research found that culls actually may actually lead to an
increase in numbers and their recolonisation can spread any disease
they may be carrying further afield.

Lord Redesdale - promoter of the recent Northumberland cull - said
that the grey squirrels were killed ‘humanely’ through the use of
Warfarin or trapping and then shooting. In actual fact, Warfarin and
other blood-thinning drugs are described by the Pesticides and Safety
Directorate as ‘markedly inhumane’. These substances cause internal
haemorrhaging and death rarely occurs quickly. Live trapping animals
causes stress and suffering, while the animal waits hours - or perhaps
days - to be put out of his or her misery. Neither method is humane.

The squirrel cull is set to expand to County Durham.

Complain to the government 
mailto:hilary.benn@defra.gsi.gov.uk
Read Animal Aid’s report 
http://tinyurl.com/2jdnsm

On Feb 1, 1:54 pm, Adam Hart  wrote:
> Squirrel Massacre
> Posted 29 January 2008
>
> http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/NEWS/news_wildlife/ALL/1729//
> Almost 12,000 grey squirrels have been poisoned to death or shot in
> the past year in a 'cull' funded by the government. The killings took
> place in Northumberland and were undertaken - it was said - to protect
> the red squirrel. Grey squirrels are charged with driving reds from
> their homes, infecting them with viruses and destroying woodlands.

The cull was done precisely for those reasons, and it is a good thing
to do.  Grow up.

I'll drink to that!!

In article , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:54:52 +0000, Adam Hart 
>wrote:
>
>>
>>The squirrel cull is set to expand to County Durham.
>>
>
>An absolute disgrace that our government is funding this.
>
So what are you going to do about it, except to say that it is "an 
absolute disgrace"? Write letters to the papers? Whinge on this 
newsgroup some more? Relocate "Professor Acorn" so he doesn't get 
culled?

-- 
Malcolm

On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:54:52 +0000, Adam Hart 
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>The squirrel cull is set to expand to County Durham.
>>>
>>
>>An absolute disgrace that our government is funding this.
>>
>So what are you going to do about it, except to say that it is "an 
>absolute disgrace"? Write letters to the papers? Whinge on this 
>newsgroup some more? Relocate "Professor Acorn" so he doesn't get 
>culled?


Well, according to the emails I get, there's a lot of opposition to
the killing.


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:54:52 +0000, Adam Hart 
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>The squirrel cull is set to expand to County Durham.
>>>
>>
>>An absolute disgrace that our government is funding this.
>>
>So what are you going to do about it, except to say that it is "an 
>absolute disgrace"? Write letters to the papers? Whinge on this 
>newsgroup some more? Relocate "Professor Acorn" so he doesn't get 
>culled?

I presume, and hope, he will keep exposing the truth to those of us
who have and continue to be duped by CONservation hooligans who are
supposedly protecting wildlife and habitat but in actual fact are
destroying it through greed and neglect. Plus of course the fact it
attracts liars, crooks and cheats like yourself who have no interest
in wildlife apart from what you can get out of it and NIMBYism!

Without the likes of Angus we'd still think RSPB, Woodland Trust etc
were good charities, instead of the nasty peice of work they are in
reality.

"Adam Hart"  wrote in message 
news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>In article ,
>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:54:52 +0000, Adam Hart 
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>The squirrel cull is set to expand to County Durham.
>>>>
>>>
>>>An absolute disgrace that our government is funding this.
>>>
>>So what are you going to do about it, except to say that it is "an
>>absolute disgrace"? Write letters to the papers? Whinge on this
>>newsgroup some more? Relocate "Professor Acorn" so he doesn't get
>>culled?
>
> I presume, and hope, he will keep exposing the truth to those of us
> who have and continue to be duped by CONservation hooligans who are
> supposedly protecting wildlife and habitat but in actual fact are
> destroying it through greed and neglect. Plus of course the fact it
> attracts liars, crooks and cheats like yourself who have no interest
> in wildlife apart from what you can get out of it and NIMBYism!
>
> Without the likes of Angus we'd still think RSPB, Woodland Trust etc
> were good charities, instead of the nasty peice of work they are in
> reality.
>
>

Go get a bloody life and do a bit of listening to people, who are actually 
country dwellers and not townies just playing at the country life.
-- 
The real Auld Bob Peffers,
Kelty,
Fife,
Scotland, (UK).

Good news, about time our natives were looked after!

Tony

"Adam Hart"  wrote in message 
news:l457q357pk3jt57ffci70o313th3i92r91@4ax.com...
> Squirrel Massacre
> Posted 29 January 2008
>
> http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/NEWS/news_wildlife/ALL/1729//
> Almost 12,000 grey squirrels have been poisoned to death or shot in
> the past year in a 'cull' funded by the government. The killings took
> place in Northumberland and were undertaken - it was said - to protect
> the red squirrel. Grey squirrels are charged with driving reds from
> their homes, infecting them with viruses and destroying woodlands.
>

Good news, about time our natives were looked after!

Tony

On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
 wrote:

>"Adam Hart"  wrote in message 
>news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>In article ,
>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:54:52 +0000, Adam Hart 
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The squirrel cull is set to expand to County Durham.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>An absolute disgrace that our government is funding this.
>>>>
>>>So what are you going to do about it, except to say that it is "an
>>>absolute disgrace"? Write letters to the papers? Whinge on this
>>>newsgroup some more? Relocate "Professor Acorn" so he doesn't get
>>>culled?
>>
>> I presume, and hope, he will keep exposing the truth to those of us
>> who have and continue to be duped by CONservation hooligans who are
>> supposedly protecting wildlife and habitat but in actual fact are
>> destroying it through greed and neglect. Plus of course the fact it
>> attracts liars, crooks and cheats like yourself who have no interest
>> in wildlife apart from what you can get out of it and NIMBYism!
>>
>> Without the likes of Angus we'd still think RSPB, Woodland Trust etc
>> were good charities, instead of the nasty peice of work they are in
>> reality.
>>
>>
>
>Go get a bloody life and do a bit of listening to people, who are actually 
>country dwellers and not townies just playing at the country life.

What do pro hunt dickheads know about country life, even the
countryside doesn't want you! Perverts who get their kicks out of
cruelty to defenseless creatures should be put in stocks so that we
can all throw excrement over you!



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"Malcolm"  wrote in message 
news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>  wrote:
>
>>"Adam Hart"  wrote in message
>>news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>In article ,
>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:54:52 +0000, Adam Hart 
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The squirrel cull is set to expand to County Durham.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>An absolute disgrace that our government is funding this.
>>>>>
>>>>So what are you going to do about it, except to say that it is "an
>>>>absolute disgrace"? Write letters to the papers? Whinge on this
>>>>newsgroup some more? Relocate "Professor Acorn" so he doesn't get
>>>>culled?
>>>
>>> I presume, and hope, he will keep exposing the truth to those of us
>>> who have and continue to be duped by CONservation hooligans who are
>>> supposedly protecting wildlife and habitat but in actual fact are
>>> destroying it through greed and neglect. Plus of course the fact it
>>> attracts liars, crooks and cheats like yourself who have no interest
>>> in wildlife apart from what you can get out of it and NIMBYism!
>>>
>>> Without the likes of Angus we'd still think RSPB, Woodland Trust etc
>>> were good charities, instead of the nasty peice of work they are in
>>> reality.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Go get a bloody life and do a bit of listening to people, who are actually
>>country dwellers and not townies just playing at the country life.
>
> What do pro hunt dickheads know about country life, even the
> countryside doesn't want you! Perverts who get their kicks out of
> cruelty to defenseless creatures should be put in stocks so that we
> can all throw excrement over you!
>
>
>
> -- 
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are somehow 
associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", brigade?
Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and overcrowded 
town and deal with things you actually know something about.
Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives doing 
what they know about.
What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been caused 
by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been here 
in the first place.
Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry 
things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
-- 
The real Auld Bob Peffers,
Kelty,
Fife,
Scotland, (UK).

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, Robert Peffers  wrote:

> "Malcolm"  wrote in message
> news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> "Adam Hart"  wrote in message
>>> news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In article ,
>>>>> amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>> So what are you going to do about it, except to say that it is "an
>>>>> absolute disgrace"? Write letters to the papers? Whinge on this
>>>>> newsgroup some more? Relocate "Professor Acorn" so he doesn't get
>>>>> culled?
>>>>
>>>> I presume, and hope, he will keep exposing the truth to those of us
>>>> who have and continue to be duped by CONservation hooligans who are
>>>> supposedly protecting wildlife and habitat but in actual fact are
>>>> destroying it through greed and neglect. Plus of course the fact it
>>>> attracts liars, crooks and cheats like yourself who have no interest
>>>> in wildlife apart from what you can get out of it and NIMBYism!
>>>>
>>>> Without the likes of Angus we'd still think RSPB, Woodland Trust etc
>>>> were good charities, instead of the nasty peice of work they are in
>>>> reality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Go get a bloody life and do a bit of listening to people, who are actually
>>> country dwellers and not townies just playing at the country life.
>>
>> What do pro hunt dickheads know about country life, even the
>> countryside doesn't want you! Perverts who get their kicks out of
>> cruelty to defenseless creatures should be put in stocks so that we
>> can all throw excrement over you!
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
> Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are somehow
> associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", brigade?
> Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and overcrowded
> town and deal with things you actually know something about.
> Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives doing
> what they know about.
> What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been caused
> by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been here
> in the first place.
> Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry
> things to support your lifestyle in your towns.

Agreed, apart form the pylons.  Pylons don't do any harm to anyone.

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On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
 wrote:

>"Malcolm"  wrote in message 
>news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>"Adam Hart"  wrote in message
>>>news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:54:52 +0000, Adam Hart 
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The squirrel cull is set to expand to County Durham.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>An absolute disgrace that our government is funding this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>So what are you going to do about it, except to say that it is "an
>>>>>absolute disgrace"? Write letters to the papers? Whinge on this
>>>>>newsgroup some more? Relocate "Professor Acorn" so he doesn't get
>>>>>culled?
>>>>
>>>> I presume, and hope, he will keep exposing the truth to those of us
>>>> who have and continue to be duped by CONservation hooligans who are
>>>> supposedly protecting wildlife and habitat but in actual fact are
>>>> destroying it through greed and neglect. Plus of course the fact it
>>>> attracts liars, crooks and cheats like yourself who have no interest
>>>> in wildlife apart from what you can get out of it and NIMBYism!
>>>>
>>>> Without the likes of Angus we'd still think RSPB, Woodland Trust etc
>>>> were good charities, instead of the nasty peice of work they are in
>>>> reality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Go get a bloody life and do a bit of listening to people, who are actually
>>>country dwellers and not townies just playing at the country life.
>>
>> What do pro hunt dickheads know about country life, even the
>> countryside doesn't want you! Perverts who get their kicks out of
>> cruelty to defenseless creatures should be put in stocks so that we
>> can all throw excrement over you!
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
>Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are somehow 
>associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", brigade?

What other kind of jerk could possibly defend it?

>Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and overcrowded 
>town and deal with things you actually know something about.

Like killing animals for fun is cruel and unnecessary?

>Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives doing 
>what they know about.

You apparently don't realise that killing animals for fun is cruel and
unnecessary, and of more concern the mentality of those involved! How
come we as a society are letting loonies roam free?

>What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been caused 
>by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been here 
>in the first place.

In human terms that would be the equivalent of saying blacks,
Jews,Muslims,disabled and the like!!! If it's not acceptable to have
Nazi style principles in the human world why should it be any more
acceptable against wildlife?

>Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry 
>things to support your lifestyle in your towns.

Actually you do.
--


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Malcolm wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>  wrote:
> 
>>"Malcolm"  wrote in message 
>>news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Adam Hart"  wrote in message
>>>>news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>>>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:54:52 +0000, Adam Hart 
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The squirrel cull is set to expand to County Durham.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>An absolute disgrace that our government is funding this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>So what are you going to do about it, except to say that it is "an
>>>>>>absolute disgrace"? Write letters to the papers? Whinge on this
>>>>>>newsgroup some more? Relocate "Professor Acorn" so he doesn't get
>>>>>>culled?
>>>>>
>>>>> I presume, and hope, he will keep exposing the truth to those of us
>>>>> who have and continue to be duped by CONservation hooligans who are
>>>>> supposedly protecting wildlife and habitat but in actual fact are
>>>>> destroying it through greed and neglect. Plus of course the fact it
>>>>> attracts liars, crooks and cheats like yourself who have no interest
>>>>> in wildlife apart from what you can get out of it and NIMBYism!
>>>>>
>>>>> Without the likes of Angus we'd still think RSPB, Woodland Trust etc
>>>>> were good charities, instead of the nasty peice of work they are in
>>>>> reality.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Go get a bloody life and do a bit of listening to people, who are actually
>>>>country dwellers and not townies just playing at the country life.
>>>
>>> What do pro hunt dickheads know about country life, even the
>>> countryside doesn't want you! Perverts who get their kicks out of
>>> cruelty to defenseless creatures should be put in stocks so that we
>>> can all throw excrement over you!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>
>>
>>Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are somehow 
>>associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", brigade?
> 
> What other kind of jerk could possibly defend it?
> 
>>Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and overcrowded 
>>town and deal with things you actually know something about.
> 
> Like killing animals for fun is cruel and unnecessary?
> 
>>Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives doing 
>>what they know about.
> 
> You apparently don't realise that killing animals for fun is cruel and
> unnecessary, and of more concern the mentality of those involved! How
> come we as a society are letting loonies roam free?
> 
>>What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been caused 
>>by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been here 
>>in the first place.
> 
> In human terms that would be the equivalent of saying blacks,
> Jews,Muslims,disabled and the like!!! If it's not acceptable to have
> Nazi style principles in the human world why should it be any more
> acceptable against wildlife?
> 
>>Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry 
>>things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
> 
> Actually you do.
> --
> 
> 
> Have you ever noticed that if something is advertised as 'amusing' or 
> 'hilarious', it usually isn't? 

Be aware that the infamous Neil Barker has posted here in demon.local at least
three times in 2007, so some stealth may be required when discussing fire*rms
and their usage.

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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:41:49 -0500, ah  wrote:

>Malcolm wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>>"Malcolm"  wrote in message 
>>>news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Adam Hart"  wrote in message
>>>>>news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>>>>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:54:52 +0000, Adam Hart 
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The squirrel cull is set to expand to County Durham.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>An absolute disgrace that our government is funding this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So what are you going to do about it, except to say that it is "an
>>>>>>>absolute disgrace"? Write letters to the papers? Whinge on this
>>>>>>>newsgroup some more? Relocate "Professor Acorn" so he doesn't get
>>>>>>>culled?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I presume, and hope, he will keep exposing the truth to those of us
>>>>>> who have and continue to be duped by CONservation hooligans who are
>>>>>> supposedly protecting wildlife and habitat but in actual fact are
>>>>>> destroying it through greed and neglect. Plus of course the fact it
>>>>>> attracts liars, crooks and cheats like yourself who have no interest
>>>>>> in wildlife apart from what you can get out of it and NIMBYism!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Without the likes of Angus we'd still think RSPB, Woodland Trust etc
>>>>>> were good charities, instead of the nasty peice of work they are in
>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Go get a bloody life and do a bit of listening to people, who are actually
>>>>>country dwellers and not townies just playing at the country life.
>>>>
>>>> What do pro hunt dickheads know about country life, even the
>>>> countryside doesn't want you! Perverts who get their kicks out of
>>>> cruelty to defenseless creatures should be put in stocks so that we
>>>> can all throw excrement over you!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are somehow 
>>>associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", brigade?
>> 
>> What other kind of jerk could possibly defend it?
>> 
>>>Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and overcrowded 
>>>town and deal with things you actually know something about.
>> 
>> Like killing animals for fun is cruel and unnecessary?
>> 
>>>Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives doing 
>>>what they know about.
>> 
>> You apparently don't realise that killing animals for fun is cruel and
>> unnecessary, and of more concern the mentality of those involved! How
>> come we as a society are letting loonies roam free?
>> 
>>>What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been caused 
>>>by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been here 
>>>in the first place.
>> 
>> In human terms that would be the equivalent of saying blacks,
>> Jews,Muslims,disabled and the like!!! If it's not acceptable to have
>> Nazi style principles in the human world why should it be any more
>> acceptable against wildlife?
>> 
>>>Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry 
>>>things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
>> 
>> Actually you do.
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> Have you ever noticed that if something is advertised as 'amusing' or 
>> 'hilarious', it usually isn't? 
>
>Be aware that the infamous Neil Barker has posted here in demon.local at least
>three times in 2007, so some stealth may be required when discussing fire*rms
>and their usage.
>
>You have been warned.

He sounds like a right nelly!


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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:41:19 -0000, "Peter Hucker"  wrote:

>> Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry
>> things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
>
>Agreed, apart form the pylons.  Pylons don't do any harm to anyone.

   The pylons don't, but the electricity they carry does. And they're
unsightly.

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Jim.

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:16:52 -0000, Malcolm  wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>  wrote:
>
>> "Malcolm"  wrote in message
>> news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Adam Hart"  wrote in message
>>>> news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I presume, and hope, he will keep exposing the truth to those of us
>>>>> who have and continue to be duped by CONservation hooligans who are
>>>>> supposedly protecting wildlife and habitat but in actual fact are
>>>>> destroying it through greed and neglect. Plus of course the fact it
>>>>> attracts liars, crooks and cheats like yourself who have no interest
>>>>> in wildlife apart from what you can get out of it and NIMBYism!
>>>>>
>>>>> Without the likes of Angus we'd still think RSPB, Woodland Trust etc
>>>>> were good charities, instead of the nasty peice of work they are in
>>>>> reality.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Go get a bloody life and do a bit of listening to people, who are actually
>>>> country dwellers and not townies just playing at the country life.
>>>
>>> What do pro hunt dickheads know about country life, even the
>>> countryside doesn't want you! Perverts who get their kicks out of
>>> cruelty to defenseless creatures should be put in stocks so that we
>>> can all throw excrement over you!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>
>>
>> Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are somehow
>> associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", brigade?
>
> What other kind of jerk could possibly defend it?
>
>> Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and overcrowded
>> town and deal with things you actually know something about.
>
> Like killing animals for fun is cruel and unnecessary?
>
>> Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives doing
>> what they know about.
>
> You apparently don't realise that killing animals for fun is cruel and
> unnecessary, and of more concern the mentality of those involved! How
> come we as a society are letting loonies roam free?
>
>> What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been caused
>> by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been here
>> in the first place.
>
> In human terms that would be the equivalent of saying blacks,
> Jews,Muslims,disabled and the like!!! If it's not acceptable to have
> Nazi style principles in the human world why should it be any more
> acceptable against wildlife?

Look what happened when we let the Muslims in.


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On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:11:44 -0000, Jim  wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:41:19 -0000, "Peter Hucker"  wrote:
>
>>> Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry
>>> things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
>>
>> Agreed, apart form the pylons.  Pylons don't do any harm to anyone.
>
>    The pylons don't, but the electricity they carry does.

You're not meant to climb them and lick the wires.

> And they're unsightly.

Rubbish.

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"Malcolm"  wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>  wrote:
>
>>"Malcolm"  wrote in message
>>news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Adam Hart"  wrote in message
>>>>news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>>>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:54:52 +0000, Adam Hart 
snip.
>>
>>Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are 
>>somehow
>>associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", brigade?
>
> What other kind of jerk could possibly defend it?
I don't know - you tell me?
>
>>Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and 
>>overcrowded
>>town and deal with things you actually know something about.
>
> Like killing animals for fun is cruel and unnecessary?
Indeed it is, which was the point I was making.
>
>>Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives 
>>doing
>>what they know about.
>
> You apparently don't realise that killing animals for fun is cruel and
> unnecessary, and of more concern the mentality of those involved! How
> come we as a society are letting loonies roam free?
Just who are you replying to? I'm against blood sports and have been all my 
life, (spent mostly in the country and NOT in the towns).
>
>>What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been 
>>caused
>>by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been 
>>here
>>in the first place.
>
> In human terms that would be the equivalent of saying blacks,
> Jews,Muslims,disabled and the like!!! If it's not acceptable to have
> Nazi style principles in the human world why should it be any more
> acceptable against wildlife?
Do not talk bloody rubbish.
The tree rats did not volunteer to come to the UK, they were imported 
against their wills.
>
>>Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry
>>things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
>
> Actually you do.
No we don't.
The recent announcement that there is to be an undersea system and that it 
will actually be quicker and cheaper to lay than overhead lines proves that 
once and for all.
Just why do you think they proposed to run a power line to Deny?
It most certainly was not to power the homes in Dunipace.
snip.

"Peter Hucker"  wrote in message 
news:op.t5you5cq4buhsv@fx62...
> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, Robert Peffers 
>  wrote:
>
>> "Malcolm"  wrote in message
>> news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Adam Hart"  wrote in message
>>>> news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>> amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>> So what are you going to do about it, except to say that it is "an
>>>>>> absolute disgrace"? Write letters to the papers? Whinge on this
>>>>>> newsgroup some more? Relocate "Professor Acorn" so he doesn't get
>>>>>> culled?
>>>>>
>>>>> I presume, and hope, he will keep exposing the truth to those of us
>>>>> who have and continue to be duped by CONservation hooligans who are
>>>>> supposedly protecting wildlife and habitat but in actual fact are
>>>>> destroying it through greed and neglect. Plus of course the fact it
>>>>> attracts liars, crooks and cheats like yourself who have no interest
>>>>> in wildlife apart from what you can get out of it and NIMBYism!
>>>>>
>>>>> Without the likes of Angus we'd still think RSPB, Woodland Trust etc
>>>>> were good charities, instead of the nasty peice of work they are in
>>>>> reality.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Go get a bloody life and do a bit of listening to people, who are 
>>>> actually
>>>> country dwellers and not townies just playing at the country life.
>>>
>>> What do pro hunt dickheads know about country life, even the
>>> countryside doesn't want you! Perverts who get their kicks out of
>>> cruelty to defenseless creatures should be put in stocks so that we
>>> can all throw excrement over you!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>
>>
>> Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are 
>> somehow
>> associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", brigade?
>> Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and 
>> overcrowded
>> town and deal with things you actually know something about.
>> Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives 
>> doing
>> what they know about.
>> What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been 
>> caused
>> by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been 
>> here
>> in the first place.
>> Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry
>> things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
>
> Agreed, apart form the pylons.  Pylons don't do any harm to anyone.

Oh! Yes they do.
They pass through, and thus detract from, (arguably), the finest scenery in 
the UK.
One of Scotland's biggest industry is tourism and much of that depends upon 
that scenery.
Remember too that these proposed pylons will be around 65 meters high, 
(around 214ft).
The thing is it is stupid to run a power line overland when the renewable 
resources will eventually be more from undersea current, tidal, wave and 
hydro-storage systems.
The best thing is most certainly an undersea cable stsyem with the inland 
stuff running to it.
The alternative is that they build the pylon system and then run the sea 
based power to the landline on even more pylons.
>
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Kelty,
Fife,
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Malcolm wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:41:49 -0500, ah  wrote:
> 
>>Malcolm wrote:
>>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>>"Malcolm"  wrote in message 
>>>>news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Adam Hart"  wrote in message
>>>>>>news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:54:52 +0000, Adam Hart 
>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The squirrel cull is set to expand to County Durham.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>An absolute disgrace that our government is funding this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So what are you going to do about it, except to say that it is "an
>>>>>>>>absolute disgrace"? Write letters to the papers? Whinge on this
>>>>>>>>newsgroup some more? Relocate "Professor Acorn" so he doesn't get
>>>>>>>>culled?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I presume, and hope, he will keep exposing the truth to those of us
>>>>>>> who have and continue to be duped by CONservation hooligans who are
>>>>>>> supposedly protecting wildlife and habitat but in actual fact are
>>>>>>> destroying it through greed and neglect. Plus of course the fact it
>>>>>>> attracts liars, crooks and cheats like yourself who have no interest
>>>>>>> in wildlife apart from what you can get out of it and NIMBYism!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Without the likes of Angus we'd still think RSPB, Woodland Trust etc
>>>>>>> were good charities, instead of the nasty peice of work they are in
>>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Go get a bloody life and do a bit of listening to people, who are actually
>>>>>>country dwellers and not townies just playing at the country life.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do pro hunt dickheads know about country life, even the
>>>>> countryside doesn't want you! Perverts who get their kicks out of
>>>>> cruelty to defenseless creatures should be put in stocks so that we
>>>>> can all throw excrement over you!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are somehow 
>>>>associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", brigade?
>>> 
>>> What other kind of jerk could possibly defend it?
>>> 
>>>>Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and overcrowded 
>>>>town and deal with things you actually know something about.
>>> 
>>> Like killing animals for fun is cruel and unnecessary?
>>> 
>>>>Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives doing 
>>>>what they know about.
>>> 
>>> You apparently don't realise that killing animals for fun is cruel and
>>> unnecessary, and of more concern the mentality of those involved! How
>>> come we as a society are letting loonies roam free?
>>> 
>>>>What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been caused 
>>>>by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been here 
>>>>in the first place.
>>> 
>>> In human terms that would be the equivalent of saying blacks,
>>> Jews,Muslims,disabled and the like!!! If it's not acceptable to have
>>> Nazi style principles in the human world why should it be any more
>>> acceptable against wildlife?
>>> 
>>>>Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry 
>>>>things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
>>> 
>>> Actually you do.
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have you ever noticed that if something is advertised as 'amusing' or 
>>> 'hilarious', it usually isn't? 
>>
>>Be aware that the infamous Neil Barker has posted here in demon.local at least
>>three times in 2007, so some stealth may be required when discussing fire*rms
>>and their usage.
>>
>>You have been warned.
> 
> He sounds like a right nelly!

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Robert Peffers wrote:
> "Malcolm"  wrote in message 
> news:5rtaq39ok1m2c4r32dt9kvpk7nr0fgkjtp@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>"Malcolm"  wrote in message
>>>news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Adam Hart"  wrote in message
>>>>>news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>>>>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:54:52 +0000, Adam Hart 
> snip.
>>>
>>>Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are 
>>>somehow
>>>associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", brigade?
>>
>> What other kind of jerk could possibly defend it?
> I don't know - you tell me?
>>
>>>Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and 
>>>overcrowded
>>>town and deal with things you actually know something about.
>>
>> Like killing animals for fun is cruel and unnecessary?
> Indeed it is, which was the point I was making.
>>
>>>Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives 
>>>doing
>>>what they know about.
>>
>> You apparently don't realise that killing animals for fun is cruel and
>> unnecessary, and of more concern the mentality of those involved! How
>> come we as a society are letting loonies roam free?
> Just who are you replying to? I'm against blood sports and have been all my 
> life, (spent mostly in the country and NOT in the towns).
>>
>>>What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been 
>>>caused
>>>by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been 
>>>here
>>>in the first place.
>>
>> In human terms that would be the equivalent of saying blacks,
>> Jews,Muslims,disabled and the like!!! If it's not acceptable to have
>> Nazi style principles in the human world why should it be any more
>> acceptable against wildlife?
> Do not talk bloody rubbish.
> The tree rats did not volunteer to come to the UK, they were imported 
> against their wills.
>>
>>>Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry
>>>things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
>>
>> Actually you do.
> No we don't.
> The recent announcement that there is to be an undersea system and that it 
> will actually be quicker and cheaper to lay than overhead lines proves that 
> once and for all.
> Just why do you think they proposed to run a power line to Deny?
> It most certainly was not to power the homes in Dunipace.
> snip. 
> 

Why are you posting this in demon.local?
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On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:36:40 -0000, "Peter Hucker"  wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:11:44 -0000, Jim  wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:41:19 -0000, "Peter Hucker"  wrote:
>>
>>>> Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry
>>>> things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
>>>
>>> Agreed, apart form the pylons.  Pylons don't do any harm to anyone.
>>
>>    The pylons don't, but the electricity they carry does.
>
>You're not meant to climb them and lick the wires.

   I meant for anyone unfortunate to live underneath the cables
they support.

>> And they're unsightly.
>
>Rubbish.

   You must have wierd tastes in countryside furniture.

-- 

Jim.

On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:57:41 -0000, Robert Peffers  wrote:

> "Peter Hucker"  wrote in message
> news:op.t5you5cq4buhsv@fx62...
>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, Robert Peffers
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> "Malcolm"  wrote in message
>>> news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Adam Hart"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> Go get a bloody life and do a bit of listening to people, who are
>>>>> actually
>>>>> country dwellers and not townies just playing at the country life.
>>>>
>>>> What do pro hunt dickheads know about country life, even the
>>>> countryside doesn't want you! Perverts who get their kicks out of
>>>> cruelty to defenseless creatures should be put in stocks so that we
>>>> can all throw excrement over you!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are
>>> somehow
>>> associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", brigade?
>>> Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and
>>> overcrowded
>>> town and deal with things you actually know something about.
>>> Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives
>>> doing
>>> what they know about.
>>> What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been
>>> caused
>>> by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been
>>> here
>>> in the first place.
>>> Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry
>>> things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
>>
>> Agreed, apart form the pylons.  Pylons don't do any harm to anyone.
>
> Oh! Yes they do.
> They pass through, and thus detract from, (arguably), the finest scenery in
> the UK.
> One of Scotland's biggest industry is tourism and much of that depends upon
> that scenery.
> Remember too that these proposed pylons will be around 65 meters high,
> (around 214ft).
> The thing is it is stupid to run a power line overland when the renewable
> resources will eventually be more from undersea current, tidal, wave and
> hydro-storage systems.
> The best thing is most certainly an undersea cable stsyem with the inland
> stuff running to it.
> The alternative is that they build the pylon system and then run the sea
> based power to the landline on even more pylons.

I agree underground cables would be better, but aren't they a lot more expensive?

I don't see pylons as a big deal, they are thin skeletons, they blend in with the scenery.  In fact sometimes I'd say they add to the picture.


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On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:39:33 -0000, Jim  wrote:

> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:36:40 -0000, "Peter Hucker"  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:11:44 -0000, Jim  wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:41:19 -0000, "Peter Hucker"  wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry
>>>>> things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed, apart form the pylons.  Pylons don't do any harm to anyone.
>>>
>>>    The pylons don't, but the electricity they carry does.
>>
>> You're not meant to climb them and lick the wires.
>
>    I meant for anyone unfortunate to live underneath the cables
> they support.

Oh the magnetism crap......

>>> And they're unsightly.
>>
>> Rubbish.
>
>    You must have wierd tastes in countryside furniture.

Not everything manmade is ugly.

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On 5 Feb, 19:00, "Peter Hucker"  wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:39:33 -0000, Jim  wrote:
> > On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:36:40 -0000, "Peter Hucker"  wrote> >> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:11:44 -0000, Jim  wrote:> >>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:41:19 -0000, "Peter Hucker"  wrote:
>
> >>>>> Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry
> >>>>> things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
>
> >>>> Agreed, apart form the pylons.  Pylons don't do any harm to anyone.> >>>    The pylons don't, but the electricity they carry does.
>
> >> You're not meant to climb them and lick the wires.
>
> >    I meant for anyone unfortunate to live underneath the cables
> > they support.
>
> Oh the magnetism crap......
>
> >>> And they're unsightly.
>
> >> Rubbish.
>
> >    You must have wierd tastes in countryside furniture.
>
> Not everything manmade is ugly.
>

Agreed.  I appeciate good design and good architecture.  Pylons are
not good - they are unsightly.  There is nowhere where they look ok.
They ruin the countryside.  The best you can about them is that they
are cheap and they are functional.

There is also some evidence that they are unsafe for those that stay
in close proximity.

GMc

An alt.net troll posing as "Peter Hucker"  wrote in 
news:op.t52e22gq4buhsv@fx62:

> On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:39:33 -0000, Jim 
> wrote: 
> 
>>>
>>    I meant for anyone unfortunate to live underneath the cables
>> they support.
> 
> Oh the magnetism crap......

Nope. Electrostatic field. Very real - as dead cows around pylons will
testify.

> 
> Not everything manmade is ugly.

Trolls are, and you are one. Pylons, however, are very useful
for spatch-cocking squirrels.

"ah"  wrote in message 
news:47a7b53d$0$47166$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com...
> Robert Peffers wrote:
>> "Malcolm"  wrote in message
>> news:5rtaq39ok1m2c4r32dt9kvpk7nr0fgkjtp@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Malcolm"  wrote in message
>>>>news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Adam Hart"  wrote in message
>>>>>>news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:54:52 +0000, Adam Hart 
>>>>>>>>>
>> snip.
>>>>
>>>>Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are
>>>>somehow
>>>>associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", brigade?
>>>
>>> What other kind of jerk could possibly defend it?
>> I don't know - you tell me?
>>>
>>>>Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and
>>>>overcrowded
>>>>town and deal with things you actually know something about.
>>>
>>> Like killing animals for fun is cruel and unnecessary?
>> Indeed it is, which was the point I was making.
>>>
>>>>Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives
>>>>doing
>>>>what they know about.
>>>
>>> You apparently don't realise that killing animals for fun is cruel and
>>> unnecessary, and of more concern the mentality of those involved! How
>>> come we as a society are letting loonies roam free?
>> Just who are you replying to? I'm against blood sports and have been all 
>> my
>> life, (spent mostly in the country and NOT in the towns).
>>>
>>>>What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been
>>>>caused
>>>>by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been
>>>>here
>>>>in the first place.
>>>
>>> In human terms that would be the equivalent of saying blacks,
>>> Jews,Muslims,disabled and the like!!! If it's not acceptable to have
>>> Nazi style principles in the human world why should it be any more
>>> acceptable against wildlife?
>> Do not talk bloody rubbish.
>> The tree rats did not volunteer to come to the UK, they were imported
>> against their wills.
>>>
>>>>Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry
>>>>things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
>>>
>>> Actually you do.
>> No we don't.
>> The recent announcement that there is to be an undersea system and that 
>> it
>> will actually be quicker and cheaper to lay than overhead lines proves 
>> that
>> once and for all.
>> Just why do you think they proposed to run a power line to Deny?
>> It most certainly was not to power the homes in Dunipace.
>> snip.
>>
>
> Why are you posting this in demon.local?
> -- 
> ah
More to the point - why are you cross-posting into all these, 
"uk.environment.conservation,scot.politics,uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.walking,uk.local.scot-highlands,uk.rec.natural-history,uk.sci.weather,alt.politics.british,demon.local" 
?

"Peter Hucker"  wrote in message 
news:op.t52essml4buhsv@fx62...
> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:57:41 -0000, Robert Peffers 
>  wrote:
>
>> "Peter Hucker"  wrote in message
>> news:op.t5you5cq4buhsv@fx62...
>>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, Robert Peffers
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Malcolm"  wrote in message
>>>> news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Adam Hart"  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go get a bloody life and do a bit of listening to people, who are
>>>>>> actually
>>>>>> country dwellers and not townies just playing at the country life.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do pro hunt dickheads know about country life, even the
>>>>> countryside doesn't want you! Perverts who get their kicks out of
>>>>> cruelty to defenseless creatures should be put in stocks so that we
>>>>> can all throw excrement over you!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are
>>>> somehow
>>>> associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", 
>>>> brigade?
>>>> Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and
>>>> overcrowded
>>>> town and deal with things you actually know something about.
>>>> Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives
>>>> doing
>>>> what they know about.
>>>> What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been
>>>> caused
>>>> by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been
>>>> here
>>>> in the first place.
>>>> Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry
>>>> things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
>>>
>>> Agreed, apart form the pylons.  Pylons don't do any harm to anyone.
>>
>> Oh! Yes they do.
>> They pass through, and thus detract from, (arguably), the finest scenery 
>> in
>> the UK.
>> One of Scotland's biggest industry is tourism and much of that depends 
>> upon
>> that scenery.
>> Remember too that these proposed pylons will be around 65 meters high,
>> (around 214ft).
>> The thing is it is stupid to run a power line overland when the renewable
>> resources will eventually be more from undersea current, tidal, wave and
>> hydro-storage systems.
>> The best thing is most certainly an undersea cable stsyem with the inland
>> stuff running to it.
>> The alternative is that they build the pylon system and then run the sea
>> based power to the landline on even more pylons.
>
> I agree underground cables would be better, but aren't they a lot more 
> expensive?
>
> I don't see pylons as a big deal, they are thin skeletons, they blend in 
> with the scenery.  In fact sometimes I'd say they add to the picture.
>
>
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The undersea solution for the main run from the north of Scotland to Denny 
will be cheaper than the land line. It will also be far more functional as 
the future will see tidal, wave and ocean current generation being added to 
the mix and, if the land line solution is adopted, this will mean many more 
pylons carrying the power from the seaside to the land line.

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Fife,
Scotland, (UK).

Robert Peffers wrote:
> "ah"  wrote in message 
> news:47a7b53d$0$47166$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com...
>> Robert Peffers wrote:
>>> "Malcolm"  wrote in message
>>> news:5rtaq39ok1m2c4r32dt9kvpk7nr0fgkjtp@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Malcolm"  wrote in message
>>>>>news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Adam Hart"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:54:52 +0000, Adam Hart 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> snip.
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are
>>>>>somehow
>>>>>associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", brigade?
>>>>
>>>> What other kind of jerk could possibly defend it?
>>> I don't know - you tell me?
>>>>
>>>>>Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and
>>>>>overcrowded
>>>>>town and deal with things you actually know something about.
>>>>
>>>> Like killing animals for fun is cruel and unnecessary?
>>> Indeed it is, which was the point I was making.
>>>>
>>>>>Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives
>>>>>doing
>>>>>what they know about.
>>>>
>>>> You apparently don't realise that killing animals for fun is cruel and
>>>> unnecessary, and of more concern the mentality of those involved! How
>>>> come we as a society are letting loonies roam free?
>>> Just who are you replying to? I'm against blood sports and have been all 
>>> my
>>> life, (spent mostly in the country and NOT in the towns).
>>>>
>>>>>What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been
>>>>>caused
>>>>>by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been
>>>>>here
>>>>>in the first place.
>>>>
>>>> In human terms that would be the equivalent of saying blacks,
>>>> Jews,Muslims,disabled and the like!!! If it's not acceptable to have
>>>> Nazi style principles in the human world why should it be any more
>>>> acceptable against wildlife?
>>> Do not talk bloody rubbish.
>>> The tree rats did not volunteer to come to the UK, they were imported
>>> against their wills.
>>>>
>>>>>Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry
>>>>>things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
>>>>
>>>> Actually you do.
>>> No we don't.
>>> The recent announcement that there is to be an undersea system and that 
>>> it
>>> will actually be quicker and cheaper to lay than overhead lines proves 
>>> that
>>> once and for all.
>>> Just why do you think they proposed to run a power line to Deny?
>>> It most certainly was not to power the homes in Dunipace.
>>> snip.
>>>
>>
>> Why are you posting this in demon.local?
>> -- 
>> ah
> More to the point - why are you cross-posting into all these, 
> "uk.environment.conservation,scot.politics,uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.walking,uk.local.scot-highlands,uk.rec.natural-history,uk.sci.weather,alt.politics.british,demon.local" 
> ?

That monkey, my interloping associate, is on /your/ back.
-- 
ah

On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:48:15 -0000, "Peter Hucker" 
wrote:

>On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:16:52 -0000, Malcolm  wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> "Malcolm"  wrote in message
>>> news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Adam Hart"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I presume, and hope, he will keep exposing the truth to those of us
>>>>>> who have and continue to be duped by CONservation hooligans who are
>>>>>> supposedly protecting wildlife and habitat but in actual fact are
>>>>>> destroying it through greed and neglect. Plus of course the fact it
>>>>>> attracts liars, crooks and cheats like yourself who have no interest
>>>>>> in wildlife apart from what you can get out of it and NIMBYism!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Without the likes of Angus we'd still think RSPB, Woodland Trust etc
>>>>>> were good charities, instead of the nasty peice of work they are in
>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Go get a bloody life and do a bit of listening to people, who are actually
>>>>> country dwellers and not townies just playing at the country life.
>>>>
>>>> What do pro hunt dickheads know about country life, even the
>>>> countryside doesn't want you! Perverts who get their kicks out of
>>>> cruelty to defenseless creatures should be put in stocks so that we
>>>> can all throw excrement over you!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are somehow
>>> associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", brigade?
>>
>> What other kind of jerk could possibly defend it?
>>
>>> Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and overcrowded
>>> town and deal with things you actually know something about.
>>
>> Like killing animals for fun is cruel and unnecessary?
>>
>>> Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives doing
>>> what they know about.
>>
>> You apparently don't realise that killing animals for fun is cruel and
>> unnecessary, and of more concern the mentality of those involved! How
>> come we as a society are letting loonies roam free?
>>
>>> What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been caused
>>> by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been here
>>> in the first place.
>>
>> In human terms that would be the equivalent of saying blacks,
>> Jews,Muslims,disabled and the like!!! If it's not acceptable to have
>> Nazi style principles in the human world why should it be any more
>> acceptable against wildlife?
>
>Look what happened when we let the Muslims in.

Not really the point and it's not just Muslims anyway. I'd be happy if
we were still an island instead of a sub district!

No offence of course but watering down National Identity until it
disappears should be a crime. It's about time we started hanging
politicians from lampposts for failing in their duty.


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On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:54:03 -0000, Malcolm  wrote:> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:48:15 -0000, "Peter Hucker" 
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:16:52 -0000, Malcolm  wrote:
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>>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>  wrote:
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>>>> "Malcolm"  wrote in message
>>>> news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What do pro hunt dickheads know about country life, even the
>>>>> countryside doesn't want you! Perverts who get their kicks out of
>>>>> cruelty to defenseless creatures should be put in stocks so that we
>>>>> can all throw excrement over you!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are somehow
>>>> associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", brigade?
>>>
>>> What other kind of jerk could possibly defend it?
>>>
>>>> Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and overcrowded
>>>> town and deal with things you actually know something about.
>>>
>>> Like killing animals for fun is cruel and unnecessary?
>>>
>>>> Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives doing
>>>> what they know about.
>>>
>>> You apparently don't realise that killing animals for fun is cruel and
>>> unnecessary, and of more concern the mentality of those involved! How
>>> come we as a society are letting loonies roam free?
>>>
>>>> What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been caused
>>>> by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been here
>>>> in the first place.
>>>
>>> In human terms that would be the equivalent of saying blacks,
>>> Jews,Muslims,disabled and the like!!! If it's not acceptable to have>>> Nazi style principles in the human world why should it be any more
>>> acceptable against wildlife?
>>
>> Look what happened when we let the Muslims in.
>
> Not really the point and it's not just Muslims anyway. I'd be happy if> we were still an island instead of a sub district!
>
> No offence of course but watering down National Identity until it
> disappears should be a crime. It's about time we started hanging
> politicians from lampposts for failing in their duty.

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> --
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eh?

GMc

On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:29:20 -0000, Robert Peffers  wrote:

> "Peter Hucker"  wrote in message
> news:op.t52essml4buhsv@fx62...
>> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:57:41 -0000, Robert Peffers
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> "Peter Hucker"  wrote in message
>>> news:op.t5you5cq4buhsv@fx62...
>>>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, Robert Peffers
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Malcolm"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are
>>>>> somehow
>>>>> associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport",
>>>>> brigade?
>>>>> Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and
>>>>> overcrowded
>>>>> town and deal with things you actually know something about.
>>>>> Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives
>>>>> doing
>>>>> what they know about.
>>>>> What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been
>>>>> caused
>>>>> by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been
>>>>> here
>>>>> in the first place.
>>>>> Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry
>>>>> things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed, apart form the pylons.  Pylons don't do any harm to anyone.
>>>
>>> Oh! Yes they do.
>>> They pass through, and thus detract from, (arguably), the finest scenery
>>> in
>>> the UK.
>>> One of Scotland's biggest industry is tourism and much of that depends
>>> upon
>>> that scenery.
>>> Remember too that these proposed pylons will be around 65 meters high,
>>> (around 214ft).
>>> The thing is it is stupid to run a power line overland when the renewable
>>> resources will eventually be more from undersea current, tidal, wave and
>>> hydro-storage systems.
>>> The best thing is most certainly an undersea cable stsyem with the inland
>>> stuff running to it.
>>> The alternative is that they build the pylon system and then run the sea
>>> based power to the landline on even more pylons.
>>
>> I agree underground cables would be better, but aren't they a lot more
>> expensive?
>>
>> I don't see pylons as a big deal, they are thin skeletons, they blend in
>> with the scenery.  In fact sometimes I'd say they add to the picture.
>
> The undersea solution for the main run from the north of Scotland to Denny
> will be cheaper than the land line. It will also be far more functional as
> the future will see tidal, wave and ocean current generation being added to
> the mix and, if the land line solution is adopted, this will mean many more
> pylons carrying the power from the seaside to the land line.

I thought tidal devices were unreliable?  As in they get damaged easily.


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On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:25:25 -0000, soupdragon  wrote:

> An alt.net troll posing as "Peter Hucker"  wrote in
> news:op.t52e22gq4buhsv@fx62:
>
>> On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:39:33 -0000, Jim 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>    I meant for anyone unfortunate to live underneath the cables
>>> they support.
>>
>> Oh the magnetism crap......
>
> Nope. Electrostatic field. Very real - as dead cows around pylons will
> testify.

Absolute bollocks.  Show me some proper scientific research.

>> Not everything manmade is ugly.
>
> Trolls are, and you are one.

If you define troll as being "someone with the opposite opinion of yourself".

> Pylons, however, are very useful for spatch-cocking squirrels.

So now you hate squirrels too?

And don't fuck about with the groups line, you have been warned.

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On Feb 6, 2:16 am, ah  wrote:
> Robert Peffers wrote:
> > "ah"  wrote in message
> >news:47a7b53d$0$47166$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com...
> >> Robert Peffers wrote:
> >>> "Malcolm"  wrote in message
> >>>news:5rtaq39ok1m2c4r32dt9kvpk7nr0fgkjtp@4ax.com...
> >>>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:07:56 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
> >>>>  wrote:
>
> >>>>>"Malcolm"  wrote in message
> >>>>>news:o8q9q3dk6ehf0va08kfctijfo7e75ae7nh@4ax.com...
> >>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:33:52 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
> >>>>>>  wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>"Adam Hart"  wrote in message
> >>>>>>>news:in99q3pm3gjov5neb2i1mv7i8d1u870j5c@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:43:05 퍍, Malcolm
> >>>>>>>>  wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>In article ,
> >>>>>>>>>amacmil...@aol.com writes
> >>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:54:52 퍍, Adam Hart
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> snip.
>
> >>>>>Are you under the strange delusion that we real country dwellers are
> >>>>>somehow
> >>>>>associated with the hunting, shooting and fishing for, "Sport", brigade?
>
> >>>> What other kind of jerk could possibly defend it?
> >>> I don't know - you tell me?
>
> >>>>>Get back to your stinking, polluted, congested, crime ridden and
> >>>>>overcrowded
> >>>>>town and deal with things you actually know something about.
>
> >>>> Like killing animals for fun is cruel and unnecessary?
> >>> Indeed it is, which was the point I was making.
>
> >>>>>Let those who live and work in the countryside get on with their lives
> >>>>>doing
> >>>>>what they know about.
>
> >>>> You apparently don't realise that killing animals for fun is cruel and
> >>>> unnecessary, and of more concern the mentality of those involved! How> >>>> come we as a society are letting loonies roam free?
> >>> Just who are you replying to? I'm against blood sports and have been all
> >>> my
> >>> life, (spent mostly in the country and NOT in the towns).
>
> >>>>>What's more remember that most trouble with the countryside has been
> >>>>>caused
> >>>>>by bloody idiots who have introduced things that should never have been
> >>>>>here
> >>>>>in the first place.
>
> >>>> In human terms that would be the equivalent of saying blacks,
> >>>> Jews,Muslims,disabled and the like!!! If it's not acceptable to have
> >>>> Nazi style principles in the human world why should it be any more
> >>>> acceptable against wildlife?
> >>> Do not talk bloody rubbish.
> >>> The tree rats did not volunteer to come to the UK, they were imported
> >>> against their wills.
>
> >>>>>Remember too that we don't need your pylons and other trash that carry
> >>>>>things to support your lifestyle in your towns.
>
> >>>> Actually you do.
> >>> No we don't.
> >>> The recent announcement that there is to be an undersea system and that
> >>> it
> >>> will actually be quicker and cheaper to lay than overhead lines proves> >>> that
> >>> once and for all.
> >>> Just why do you think they proposed to run a power line to Deny?
> >>> It most certainly was not to power the homes in Dunipace.
> >>> snip.
>
> >> Why are you posting this in demon.local?
> >> --
> >> ah
> > More to the point - why are you cross-posting into all these,
> > "uk.environment.conservation,scot.politics,uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.walking,uk.local.scot-highlands,uk.rec.natural-history,uk.sci.weather,alt.politics.british,demon.local"
> > ?
>
> That monkey, my interloping associate, is on /your/ back.
> --
> ah

Grey squirrels are a non native and very destructive alien species. On
Anglesey where I live mostly there are no grey squirrels - you can see
a huge difference in many ways in the woodlands adjacent. reds are
totally different. they cannot live together. The greys displace the
reds. Its not perverted sonny, to kill and eat grey squirrels -
apparently the meat is quite good. If you wanna grow nuts on a large
scale like I'm actually doing for real now, then basically you wont
get a crop at all for vegan loonys or anyone else to eat in the
precence of grey squirrels. They even eat the buds, the fruiting and
leafing buds in early spring, sometimes doing enough damage to kill
the special trees - they seem to do that - zone in on the most
valuable and special trees. Very very annoying little cunts.

I've just bought 40 acres of land in East Sussex. the deer (fallow,
introduced by the normal normans) have hugely increased  in numbers
recently with no wild predation to the extent that the regeneration of
trees is being curtailed. I just sold the shooting rights for one year
(fallow deer, rabbits, grey squirrels and mink for £400). The deer are
worth something I think. Some skins go for saddelry - I suggested to
the geezer: drum skin market....Basically something needs to be done
on a national scale about the deer problem, the squirrel problem, the
rabbit problem also. Even the fuking mink problem - they also destroy
the native species. Check this out:

http://www.thedeerinitiative.co.uk/

There is a largely untapped source of good wild meats here folks.

Neither is it perverted, by the way to eat Whalemeat. check this out:

http://www.makah.com/

Tribal give away hunt.

FUKING SOUND.

I do know what is happening with these guys that scream on about meat
eating perverts by the way, I used to live in Oxford and the
alternative protesty type scene does quite often tend to be a
hegmonistic type thing, kinda like a mind controlly thing, kids just
connect into that scene, physcotropic drugs an all, and bingo, a ALF/
AR loony is formed! The city type activist scene is great in many
ways, but also very very insular and out of touch with the reality
outside the little world. Likewise hippy travllers really. Amazing
thinking back about the programming thing. You could say the same
thing about the red coat type fox hunt - another program I think,
based upon very possibly ritual abuse of wild dogs..the 'blooding' and
the rest of it. It does smak of ritual abuse derived trip.  There are
a lot of traps that people can fall into which will cloud your
consciousness and freedom. Don't get stuck, go and visit some real
tribal people, some unassimilated tribal people in the Himalaya or
somewhere.

There is a big wide world out there of real tribal people. Very very
sound real people.

HAVE SOME RESPECT

MAKAH TRIBAL SOVEREIGNTY!

Jah Bless

(oh god its that geezer again, he must be MI5)