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date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:52:06 +0100,    group: uk.people.support.depression        back       
Re: Vegetarianism Re: I'm a bit drunk   
Rowland McDonnell wrote:

>Ariel  wrote:
>
>> Rowland McDonnell wrote:
>> 
>> >[snip]
>> >
>> >I've often heard veggies explain that they don't see why they should
>> >kill animals to eat, but I've never heard a veggie explain what the
>> >problem with doing so might be.
>> 
>> There is no problem with doing so if you are prepared to do it.
>
>But there is a problem according to some veggies.

Some people not only too easily spoil things for themselves but what
they represent also.

>In any case, why do you put this `if you're not prepared to kill the
>meat yourself, you shouldn't eat it' constraint on things?
>
>That makes no sense to me.

It does, kind of to me, to me but I don't want to go on about it.
 
>> I personally couldn't kill a cow, a pig, a chicken, a fish, a crab nor
>> many other things because I like all those things, and have no wish to
>> kill them.
>
><puzzled>  I like plants.  I treat them with the respect I treat all
>other life.  Do you get what I'm on about?

Yes, I do and you haven't said anything that makes me doubt you for a
moment.
 
>I'd much sooner kill a pig for food than chop down a tree.
>
>For sure I find it icky to think about killing an animal for food, but I
>know that's just the fault of my upbringing.

I understand that and I dare say if I had been brought up on a farm,
and had to face certain realities, I may well have eaten my own goats
too.

>>I don't seem to have the same attachment to plants and am
>> quite happy to kill them, especially when I'm hungry. 
>> 
>> It's not a problem, it's a personal preference.
>
>When I say `problem', I mean that some veggies indicate that killing
>animals for food is immoral or wrong or something by their lights.

I don't think that.

>> If it's not a problem
>> for you, or anybody else, to kill animals to eat (i.e. if that is your
>> wish) then I have no problem with that.
>
>Some veggies do, and that's what still puzzles me.
>
>Rowland.

Let's not start on vegans, then.  :)
date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:52:06 +0100   author:   Ariel

Re: Vegetarianism Re: I'm a bit drunk   
In article , 
ariella@mailhaven.com says...
> >When I say `problem', I mean that some veggies indicate that killing
> >animals for food is immoral or wrong or something by their lights.
> 
> I don't think that.
> 
> >> If it's not a problem
> >> for you, or anybody else, to kill animals to eat (i.e. if that is your
> >> wish) then I have no problem with that.
> >
> >Some veggies do, and that's what still puzzles me.
> >
> >Rowland.
> 
> Let's not start on vegans, then.  :)
> 


My CPN is a vegan... apart from when she's in Poland!  :O~~~
date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:35:05 +0100   author:   MadMazza

Re: Vegetarianism Re: I'm a bit drunk   
In article <8a21544b-bc07-4ca9-a88e-3aa967c33b18
@q35g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, ms_crissyX@yahoo.com says...

> > My CPN is a vegan... apart from when she's in Poland! =A0:O~~~
> 
> That's interesting about Poland - why not a vegan in Poland - no
> choice?
> I haven't read the rest of this thread but can imagine it's anti/pro
> meat eating, a discussion I've heard too many times to be bothered
> with.
> 



That's it - she said there is not enough choice in Poland.

Guess she can't live on beetroot sarnies for too long?  ;o))
date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 12:29:18 +0100   author:   MadMazza

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