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date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 00:52:42 +0100,    group: uk.people.support.cfs-me        back       
Outragious!!!   
Emotional Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders

Department of Psychological Medicine

We would like to invite applications from psychology graduates for the
 above
post which will involve working across the Section of Eating Disorders
 and the
Chronic Fatigue Research and Treatment Unit on a project entitled
 'Emotional
Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders'.

This project is funded through the newly established Biomedical
 Research Centre
at the Institute of Psychiatry.

The successful candidate will have relevant research experience and
 preferably
experience of working with eating disorder and/or chronic fatigue
 patients.

Starting salary in the range £23,175 pa to £24,332 pa (inclusive of
 £2,323pa
London Allowance), depending on qualifications and experience.

To obtain further particulars and further information about the
 Institute,
please see our website at   http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies   or
alternatively e-mail vacancies@iop.kcl.ac.uk  .  Applications, in the
 form of a
CV (including details of two referees), covering letter and equal
 opportunities
statement, should be emailed to this address or posted to the address
 given in
the further particulars.

Please quote reference number 07/R68 in all correspondence.

Closing date for applications 13th July 2007.

http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf

FURTHER PARTICULARS
Research Worker
Department of Psychological Medicine
Sections of Eating Disorders and General Hospital Psychiatry

Ref No: 07/R68

1. THE INSTITUTE OF PSYCHIATRY

1.1 The Institute of Psychiatry is a postgraduate medical school
 associated with
the South London and Maudsley NHS Trust, and is a School of King's
 College
London of the University of London. It has an outstanding international
reputation in the field of research and in the most recent HEFCE
 Research
Assessment Exercise (2001) was awarded the highest (5*) rating. The
 Institute
has approximately 550 students and over 900 staff and has an annual
 turnover of
approximately £63 million. The Institute offers a range of Diploma,
 MSc, MPhil,
and PhD courses in psychiatry, psychology and related basic and
 clinical
neurosciences.

1.2 The complementary roles of the Institute are
..  to pioneer research into new and improved ways of understanding and
 treating
mental illness and brain disease;
.. to offer advanced University training for psychiatrists,
 psychologists,
neurologists and other scientific and paramedical workers.
3. THE SECTION OF GENERAL HOSPITAL PSYCHIATRY

The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Research and Treatment Unit receives about
 400
referrals per year. The multi-disciplinary team assesses and treats
 patients
with chronic fatigue syndrome and carries out research into both causes
 and
treatment efficacy.

Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
 are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat is
 expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
 Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
 include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
 characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.-- Spencer 
Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container.
date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 00:52:42 +0100   author:   Spencer ©¿©¬

Re: Outragious!!!   
The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.

I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:

**********

	Apparently my illness is all in my head:

	http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf

"such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"

	They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have had 		CFS 
for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?

	Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I am 
male).

*********

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they respond.

G


Spencer ©¿©¬ wrote:
> Emotional Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders
> 
> Department of Psychological Medicine
> 
> We would like to invite applications from psychology graduates for the
>  above
> post which will involve working across the Section of Eating Disorders
>  and the
> Chronic Fatigue Research and Treatment Unit on a project entitled
>  'Emotional
> Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders'.
> 
> This project is funded through the newly established Biomedical
>  Research Centre
> at the Institute of Psychiatry.
> 
> The successful candidate will have relevant research experience and
>  preferably
> experience of working with eating disorder and/or chronic fatigue
>  patients.
> 
> Starting salary in the range £23,175 pa to £24,332 pa (inclusive of
>  £2,323pa
> London Allowance), depending on qualifications and experience.
> 
> To obtain further particulars and further information about the
>  Institute,
> please see our website at   http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies   or
> alternatively e-mail vacancies@iop.kcl.ac.uk  .  Applications, in the
>  form of a
> CV (including details of two referees), covering letter and equal
>  opportunities
> statement, should be emailed to this address or posted to the address
>  given in
> the further particulars.
> 
> Please quote reference number 07/R68 in all correspondence.
> 
> Closing date for applications 13th July 2007.
> 
> http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
> 
> FURTHER PARTICULARS
> Research Worker
> Department of Psychological Medicine
> Sections of Eating Disorders and General Hospital Psychiatry
> 
> Ref No: 07/R68
> 
> 1. THE INSTITUTE OF PSYCHIATRY
> 
> 1.1 The Institute of Psychiatry is a postgraduate medical school
>  associated with
> the South London and Maudsley NHS Trust, and is a School of King's
>  College
> London of the University of London. It has an outstanding international
> reputation in the field of research and in the most recent HEFCE
>  Research
> Assessment Exercise (2001) was awarded the highest (5*) rating. The
>  Institute
> has approximately 550 students and over 900 staff and has an annual
>  turnover of
> approximately £63 million. The Institute offers a range of Diploma,
>  MSc, MPhil,
> and PhD courses in psychiatry, psychology and related basic and
>  clinical
> neurosciences.
> 
> 1.2 The complementary roles of the Institute are
> .  to pioneer research into new and improved ways of understanding and
>  treating
> mental illness and brain disease;
> . to offer advanced University training for psychiatrists,
>  psychologists,
> neurologists and other scientific and paramedical workers.
> 3. THE SECTION OF GENERAL HOSPITAL PSYCHIATRY
> 
> The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Research and Treatment Unit receives about
>  400
> referrals per year. The multi-disciplinary team assesses and treats
>  patients
> with chronic fatigue syndrome and carries out research into both causes
>  and
> treatment efficacy.
> 
> Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
>  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat is
>  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
>  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
>  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
>  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.-- Spencer 
> Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container. 
>
date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:13:43 +0100   author:   GTH

Re: Outragious!!!   
"GTH"  wrote in message 
news:5MOdnXkOJdF3bhLbnZ2dnUVZ8t6pnZ2d@bt.com...
| The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.
|
| I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:
|
| **********
|
| Apparently my illness is all in my head:
|
| http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
|
| "such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"
|
| They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have had CFS
| for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?
|
| Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I am
| male).

| Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they 
respond.

Well done! I Feared this group was dead.
I have had it for 17 years and believe it is coused by a variant of HHV6:-

February 22, 2005 – The HHV-6 Foundation, an association formed to raise 
awareness, funding and further research for human herpesvirus (HHV-6), has 
today announced that some cases of chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) may be 
linked to human herpesvirus 6 A variant (HHV-6A). The announcement comes on 
the heels of the International Fatigue Conference on Fatigue Science that 
was held in Japan on February 9-11. The conference was attended by some 200 
scientists from around the world.

| > Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
| >  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat 
is
| >  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
| >  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
| >  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
| >  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.--  
Spencer
| > Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container.
date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 23:38:40 +0100   author:   Spencer ©¿©¬

Re: Outragious!!!   
I got a reply from the IOP, seems were are not all loony:

*********

I do not agree that the information contained in a professional job 
description can fairly be described as "shit". Research evidence and 
clinical experience indicate that many - but not all - people suffering 
from eating disorders and/or chronic fatigue syndrome do display 
elements of "avoidant" personality, "avoidant" being a technical 
psychological term for behaviour in which an individual attempts to 
evade potential or actual rejection or criticism, often by social 
withdrawal and introverted behaviour. The aim of the study for which the 
job is being advertised is partly to quantify these factors.


Nor is it true that the description of eating disorders and chronic 
fatigue disorders as "psychosomatic" in any way implies that they are 
"all in [your] head". Psychosomosis refers to a process by which 
psychological processes result in physical symptoms - physical symptoms 
which are indubitably real and which can be disabling.

*********

G

GTH wrote:
> The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.
> 
> I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:
> 
> **********
> 
>     Apparently my illness is all in my head:
> 
>     http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
> 
> "such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"
> 
>     They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have 
> had         CFS for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?
> 
>     Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I 
> am male).
> 
> *********
> 
> Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they 
> respond.
> 
> G
> 
> 
> Spencer ©¿©¬ wrote:
> 
>> Emotional Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders
>>
>> Department of Psychological Medicine
>>
>> We would like to invite applications from psychology graduates for the
>>  above
>> post which will involve working across the Section of Eating Disorders
>>  and the
>> Chronic Fatigue Research and Treatment Unit on a project entitled
>>  'Emotional
>> Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders'.
>>
>> This project is funded through the newly established Biomedical
>>  Research Centre
>> at the Institute of Psychiatry.
>>
>> The successful candidate will have relevant research experience and
>>  preferably
>> experience of working with eating disorder and/or chronic fatigue
>>  patients.
>>
>> Starting salary in the range £23,175 pa to £24,332 pa (inclusive of
>>  £2,323pa
>> London Allowance), depending on qualifications and experience.
>>
>> To obtain further particulars and further information about the
>>  Institute,
>> please see our website at   http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies   or
>> alternatively e-mail vacancies@iop.kcl.ac.uk  .  Applications, in the
>>  form of a
>> CV (including details of two referees), covering letter and equal
>>  opportunities
>> statement, should be emailed to this address or posted to the address
>>  given in
>> the further particulars.
>>
>> Please quote reference number 07/R68 in all correspondence.
>>
>> Closing date for applications 13th July 2007.
>>
>> http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
>>
>> FURTHER PARTICULARS
>> Research Worker
>> Department of Psychological Medicine
>> Sections of Eating Disorders and General Hospital Psychiatry
>>
>> Ref No: 07/R68
>>
>> 1. THE INSTITUTE OF PSYCHIATRY
>>
>> 1.1 The Institute of Psychiatry is a postgraduate medical school
>>  associated with
>> the South London and Maudsley NHS Trust, and is a School of King's
>>  College
>> London of the University of London. It has an outstanding international
>> reputation in the field of research and in the most recent HEFCE
>>  Research
>> Assessment Exercise (2001) was awarded the highest (5*) rating. The
>>  Institute
>> has approximately 550 students and over 900 staff and has an annual
>>  turnover of
>> approximately £63 million. The Institute offers a range of Diploma,
>>  MSc, MPhil,
>> and PhD courses in psychiatry, psychology and related basic and
>>  clinical
>> neurosciences.
>>
>> 1.2 The complementary roles of the Institute are
>> .  to pioneer research into new and improved ways of understanding and
>>  treating
>> mental illness and brain disease;
>> . to offer advanced University training for psychiatrists,
>>  psychologists,
>> neurologists and other scientific and paramedical workers.
>> 3. THE SECTION OF GENERAL HOSPITAL PSYCHIATRY
>>
>> The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Research and Treatment Unit receives about
>>  400
>> referrals per year. The multi-disciplinary team assesses and treats
>>  patients
>> with chronic fatigue syndrome and carries out research into both causes
>>  and
>> treatment efficacy.
>>
>> Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
>>  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat is
>>  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
>>  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
>>  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
>>  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.-- 
>> Spencer Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container.
date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:10:45 +0100   author:   GTH

Re: Outragious!!!   
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:10:45 +0100, GTH  wrote:

>I got a reply from the IOP, seems were are not all loony:
>
>*********
>
>I do not agree that the information contained in a professional job 
>description can fairly be described as "shit". Research evidence and 
>clinical experience indicate that many - but not all - people suffering 
>from eating disorders and/or chronic fatigue syndrome do display 
>elements of "avoidant" personality, "avoidant" being a technical 
>psychological term for behaviour in which an individual attempts to 
>evade potential or actual rejection or criticism, often by social 
>withdrawal and introverted behaviour. The aim of the study for which the 
>job is being advertised is partly to quantify these factors.
>
>
>Nor is it true that the description of eating disorders and chronic 
>fatigue disorders as "psychosomatic" in any way implies that they are 
>"all in [your] head". Psychosomosis refers to a process by which 
>psychological processes result in physical symptoms - physical symptoms 
>which are indubitably real and which can be disabling.
>
>*********
>
>G
>

Crap.
I wish it was infectious as I know where I would send it. Everybody
who has ME CFS knows that the words psychosomatic means it's in the
mind to most people they come across. 

Freud
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:49:30 +0100   author:   Freud

Re: Outragious!!!   
The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.

I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:

**********

	Apparently my illness is all in my head:

	http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf

"such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"

	They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have had 		CFS 
for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?

	Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I am 
male).

*********

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they respond.

G


Spencer ©¿©¬ wrote:
> Emotional Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders
> 
> Department of Psychological Medicine
> 
> We would like to invite applications from psychology graduates for the
>  above
> post which will involve working across the Section of Eating Disorders
>  and the
> Chronic Fatigue Research and Treatment Unit on a project entitled
>  'Emotional
> Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders'.
> 
> This project is funded through the newly established Biomedical
>  Research Centre
> at the Institute of Psychiatry.
> 
> The successful candidate will have relevant research experience and
>  preferably
> experience of working with eating disorder and/or chronic fatigue
>  patients.
> 
> Starting salary in the range £23,175 pa to £24,332 pa (inclusive of
>  £2,323pa
> London Allowance), depending on qualifications and experience.
> 
> To obtain further particulars and further information about the
>  Institute,
> please see our website at   http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies   or
> alternatively e-mail vacancies@iop.kcl.ac.uk  .  Applications, in the
>  form of a
> CV (including details of two referees), covering letter and equal
>  opportunities
> statement, should be emailed to this address or posted to the address
>  given in
> the further particulars.
> 
> Please quote reference number 07/R68 in all correspondence.
> 
> Closing date for applications 13th July 2007.
> 
> http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
> 
> FURTHER PARTICULARS
> Research Worker
> Department of Psychological Medicine
> Sections of Eating Disorders and General Hospital Psychiatry
> 
> Ref No: 07/R68
> 
> 1. THE INSTITUTE OF PSYCHIATRY
> 
> 1.1 The Institute of Psychiatry is a postgraduate medical school
>  associated with
> the South London and Maudsley NHS Trust, and is a School of King's
>  College
> London of the University of London. It has an outstanding international
> reputation in the field of research and in the most recent HEFCE
>  Research
> Assessment Exercise (2001) was awarded the highest (5*) rating. The
>  Institute
> has approximately 550 students and over 900 staff and has an annual
>  turnover of
> approximately £63 million. The Institute offers a range of Diploma,
>  MSc, MPhil,
> and PhD courses in psychiatry, psychology and related basic and
>  clinical
> neurosciences.
> 
> 1.2 The complementary roles of the Institute are
> .  to pioneer research into new and improved ways of understanding and
>  treating
> mental illness and brain disease;
> . to offer advanced University training for psychiatrists,
>  psychologists,
> neurologists and other scientific and paramedical workers.
> 3. THE SECTION OF GENERAL HOSPITAL PSYCHIATRY
> 
> The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Research and Treatment Unit receives about
>  400
> referrals per year. The multi-disciplinary team assesses and treats
>  patients
> with chronic fatigue syndrome and carries out research into both causes
>  and
> treatment efficacy.
> 
> Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
>  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat is
>  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
>  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
>  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
>  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.-- Spencer 
> Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container. 
>
date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:13:43 +0100   author:   GTH

Re: Outragious!!!   
"GTH"  wrote in message 
news:5MOdnXkOJdF3bhLbnZ2dnUVZ8t6pnZ2d@bt.com...
| The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.
|
| I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:
|
| **********
|
| Apparently my illness is all in my head:
|
| http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
|
| "such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"
|
| They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have had CFS
| for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?
|
| Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I am
| male).

| Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they 
respond.

Well done! I Feared this group was dead.
I have had it for 17 years and believe it is coused by a variant of HHV6:-

February 22, 2005 – The HHV-6 Foundation, an association formed to raise 
awareness, funding and further research for human herpesvirus (HHV-6), has 
today announced that some cases of chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) may be 
linked to human herpesvirus 6 A variant (HHV-6A). The announcement comes on 
the heels of the International Fatigue Conference on Fatigue Science that 
was held in Japan on February 9-11. The conference was attended by some 200 
scientists from around the world.

| > Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
| >  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat 
is
| >  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
| >  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
| >  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
| >  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.--  
Spencer
| > Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container.
date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 23:38:40 +0100   author:   Spencer ©¿©¬

Re: Outragious!!!   
I got a reply from the IOP, seems were are not all loony:

*********

I do not agree that the information contained in a professional job 
description can fairly be described as "shit". Research evidence and 
clinical experience indicate that many - but not all - people suffering 
from eating disorders and/or chronic fatigue syndrome do display 
elements of "avoidant" personality, "avoidant" being a technical 
psychological term for behaviour in which an individual attempts to 
evade potential or actual rejection or criticism, often by social 
withdrawal and introverted behaviour. The aim of the study for which the 
job is being advertised is partly to quantify these factors.


Nor is it true that the description of eating disorders and chronic 
fatigue disorders as "psychosomatic" in any way implies that they are 
"all in [your] head". Psychosomosis refers to a process by which 
psychological processes result in physical symptoms - physical symptoms 
which are indubitably real and which can be disabling.

*********

G

GTH wrote:
> The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.
> 
> I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:
> 
> **********
> 
>     Apparently my illness is all in my head:
> 
>     http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
> 
> "such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"
> 
>     They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have 
> had         CFS for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?
> 
>     Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I 
> am male).
> 
> *********
> 
> Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they 
> respond.
> 
> G
> 
> 
> Spencer ©¿©¬ wrote:
> 
>> Emotional Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders
>>
>> Department of Psychological Medicine
>>
>> We would like to invite applications from psychology graduates for the
>>  above
>> post which will involve working across the Section of Eating Disorders
>>  and the
>> Chronic Fatigue Research and Treatment Unit on a project entitled
>>  'Emotional
>> Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders'.
>>
>> This project is funded through the newly established Biomedical
>>  Research Centre
>> at the Institute of Psychiatry.
>>
>> The successful candidate will have relevant research experience and
>>  preferably
>> experience of working with eating disorder and/or chronic fatigue
>>  patients.
>>
>> Starting salary in the range £23,175 pa to £24,332 pa (inclusive of
>>  £2,323pa
>> London Allowance), depending on qualifications and experience.
>>
>> To obtain further particulars and further information about the
>>  Institute,
>> please see our website at   http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies   or
>> alternatively e-mail vacancies@iop.kcl.ac.uk  .  Applications, in the
>>  form of a
>> CV (including details of two referees), covering letter and equal
>>  opportunities
>> statement, should be emailed to this address or posted to the address
>>  given in
>> the further particulars.
>>
>> Please quote reference number 07/R68 in all correspondence.
>>
>> Closing date for applications 13th July 2007.
>>
>> http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
>>
>> FURTHER PARTICULARS
>> Research Worker
>> Department of Psychological Medicine
>> Sections of Eating Disorders and General Hospital Psychiatry
>>
>> Ref No: 07/R68
>>
>> 1. THE INSTITUTE OF PSYCHIATRY
>>
>> 1.1 The Institute of Psychiatry is a postgraduate medical school
>>  associated with
>> the South London and Maudsley NHS Trust, and is a School of King's
>>  College
>> London of the University of London. It has an outstanding international
>> reputation in the field of research and in the most recent HEFCE
>>  Research
>> Assessment Exercise (2001) was awarded the highest (5*) rating. The
>>  Institute
>> has approximately 550 students and over 900 staff and has an annual
>>  turnover of
>> approximately £63 million. The Institute offers a range of Diploma,
>>  MSc, MPhil,
>> and PhD courses in psychiatry, psychology and related basic and
>>  clinical
>> neurosciences.
>>
>> 1.2 The complementary roles of the Institute are
>> .  to pioneer research into new and improved ways of understanding and
>>  treating
>> mental illness and brain disease;
>> . to offer advanced University training for psychiatrists,
>>  psychologists,
>> neurologists and other scientific and paramedical workers.
>> 3. THE SECTION OF GENERAL HOSPITAL PSYCHIATRY
>>
>> The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Research and Treatment Unit receives about
>>  400
>> referrals per year. The multi-disciplinary team assesses and treats
>>  patients
>> with chronic fatigue syndrome and carries out research into both causes
>>  and
>> treatment efficacy.
>>
>> Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
>>  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat is
>>  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
>>  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
>>  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
>>  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.-- 
>> Spencer Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container.
date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:10:45 +0100   author:   GTH

Re: Outragious!!!   
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:10:45 +0100, GTH  wrote:

>I got a reply from the IOP, seems were are not all loony:
>
>*********
>
>I do not agree that the information contained in a professional job 
>description can fairly be described as "shit". Research evidence and 
>clinical experience indicate that many - but not all - people suffering 
>from eating disorders and/or chronic fatigue syndrome do display 
>elements of "avoidant" personality, "avoidant" being a technical 
>psychological term for behaviour in which an individual attempts to 
>evade potential or actual rejection or criticism, often by social 
>withdrawal and introverted behaviour. The aim of the study for which the 
>job is being advertised is partly to quantify these factors.
>
>
>Nor is it true that the description of eating disorders and chronic 
>fatigue disorders as "psychosomatic" in any way implies that they are 
>"all in [your] head". Psychosomosis refers to a process by which 
>psychological processes result in physical symptoms - physical symptoms 
>which are indubitably real and which can be disabling.
>
>*********
>
>G
>

Crap.
I wish it was infectious as I know where I would send it. Everybody
who has ME CFS knows that the words psychosomatic means it's in the
mind to most people they come across. 

Freud
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:49:30 +0100   author:   Freud

Re: Outragious!!!   
The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.

I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:

**********

	Apparently my illness is all in my head:

	http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf

"such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"

	They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have had 		CFS 
for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?

	Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I am 
male).

*********

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they respond.

G


Spencer ©¿©¬ wrote:
> Emotional Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders
> 
> Department of Psychological Medicine
> 
> We would like to invite applications from psychology graduates for the
>  above
> post which will involve working across the Section of Eating Disorders
>  and the
> Chronic Fatigue Research and Treatment Unit on a project entitled
>  'Emotional
> Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders'.
> 
> This project is funded through the newly established Biomedical
>  Research Centre
> at the Institute of Psychiatry.
> 
> The successful candidate will have relevant research experience and
>  preferably
> experience of working with eating disorder and/or chronic fatigue
>  patients.
> 
> Starting salary in the range £23,175 pa to £24,332 pa (inclusive of
>  £2,323pa
> London Allowance), depending on qualifications and experience.
> 
> To obtain further particulars and further information about the
>  Institute,
> please see our website at   http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies   or
> alternatively e-mail vacancies@iop.kcl.ac.uk  .  Applications, in the
>  form of a
> CV (including details of two referees), covering letter and equal
>  opportunities
> statement, should be emailed to this address or posted to the address
>  given in
> the further particulars.
> 
> Please quote reference number 07/R68 in all correspondence.
> 
> Closing date for applications 13th July 2007.
> 
> http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
> 
> FURTHER PARTICULARS
> Research Worker
> Department of Psychological Medicine
> Sections of Eating Disorders and General Hospital Psychiatry
> 
> Ref No: 07/R68
> 
> 1. THE INSTITUTE OF PSYCHIATRY
> 
> 1.1 The Institute of Psychiatry is a postgraduate medical school
>  associated with
> the South London and Maudsley NHS Trust, and is a School of King's
>  College
> London of the University of London. It has an outstanding international
> reputation in the field of research and in the most recent HEFCE
>  Research
> Assessment Exercise (2001) was awarded the highest (5*) rating. The
>  Institute
> has approximately 550 students and over 900 staff and has an annual
>  turnover of
> approximately £63 million. The Institute offers a range of Diploma,
>  MSc, MPhil,
> and PhD courses in psychiatry, psychology and related basic and
>  clinical
> neurosciences.
> 
> 1.2 The complementary roles of the Institute are
> .  to pioneer research into new and improved ways of understanding and
>  treating
> mental illness and brain disease;
> . to offer advanced University training for psychiatrists,
>  psychologists,
> neurologists and other scientific and paramedical workers.
> 3. THE SECTION OF GENERAL HOSPITAL PSYCHIATRY
> 
> The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Research and Treatment Unit receives about
>  400
> referrals per year. The multi-disciplinary team assesses and treats
>  patients
> with chronic fatigue syndrome and carries out research into both causes
>  and
> treatment efficacy.
> 
> Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
>  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat is
>  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
>  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
>  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
>  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.-- Spencer 
> Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container. 
>
date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:13:43 +0100   author:   GTH

Re: Outragious!!!   
"GTH"  wrote in message 
news:5MOdnXkOJdF3bhLbnZ2dnUVZ8t6pnZ2d@bt.com...
| The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.
|
| I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:
|
| **********
|
| Apparently my illness is all in my head:
|
| http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
|
| "such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"
|
| They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have had CFS
| for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?
|
| Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I am
| male).

| Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they 
respond.

Well done! I Feared this group was dead.
I have had it for 17 years and believe it is coused by a variant of HHV6:-

February 22, 2005 – The HHV-6 Foundation, an association formed to raise 
awareness, funding and further research for human herpesvirus (HHV-6), has 
today announced that some cases of chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) may be 
linked to human herpesvirus 6 A variant (HHV-6A). The announcement comes on 
the heels of the International Fatigue Conference on Fatigue Science that 
was held in Japan on February 9-11. The conference was attended by some 200 
scientists from around the world.

| > Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
| >  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat 
is
| >  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
| >  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
| >  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
| >  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.--  
Spencer
| > Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container.
date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 23:38:40 +0100   author:   Spencer ©¿©¬

Re: Outragious!!!   
I got a reply from the IOP, seems were are not all loony:

*********

I do not agree that the information contained in a professional job 
description can fairly be described as "shit". Research evidence and 
clinical experience indicate that many - but not all - people suffering 
from eating disorders and/or chronic fatigue syndrome do display 
elements of "avoidant" personality, "avoidant" being a technical 
psychological term for behaviour in which an individual attempts to 
evade potential or actual rejection or criticism, often by social 
withdrawal and introverted behaviour. The aim of the study for which the 
job is being advertised is partly to quantify these factors.


Nor is it true that the description of eating disorders and chronic 
fatigue disorders as "psychosomatic" in any way implies that they are 
"all in [your] head". Psychosomosis refers to a process by which 
psychological processes result in physical symptoms - physical symptoms 
which are indubitably real and which can be disabling.

*********

G

GTH wrote:
> The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.
> 
> I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:
> 
> **********
> 
>     Apparently my illness is all in my head:
> 
>     http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
> 
> "such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"
> 
>     They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have 
> had         CFS for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?
> 
>     Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I 
> am male).
> 
> *********
> 
> Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they 
> respond.
> 
> G
> 
> 
> Spencer ©¿©¬ wrote:
> 
>> Emotional Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders
>>
>> Department of Psychological Medicine
>>
>> We would like to invite applications from psychology graduates for the
>>  above
>> post which will involve working across the Section of Eating Disorders
>>  and the
>> Chronic Fatigue Research and Treatment Unit on a project entitled
>>  'Emotional
>> Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders'.
>>
>> This project is funded through the newly established Biomedical
>>  Research Centre
>> at the Institute of Psychiatry.
>>
>> The successful candidate will have relevant research experience and
>>  preferably
>> experience of working with eating disorder and/or chronic fatigue
>>  patients.
>>
>> Starting salary in the range £23,175 pa to £24,332 pa (inclusive of
>>  £2,323pa
>> London Allowance), depending on qualifications and experience.
>>
>> To obtain further particulars and further information about the
>>  Institute,
>> please see our website at   http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies   or
>> alternatively e-mail vacancies@iop.kcl.ac.uk  .  Applications, in the
>>  form of a
>> CV (including details of two referees), covering letter and equal
>>  opportunities
>> statement, should be emailed to this address or posted to the address
>>  given in
>> the further particulars.
>>
>> Please quote reference number 07/R68 in all correspondence.
>>
>> Closing date for applications 13th July 2007.
>>
>> http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
>>
>> FURTHER PARTICULARS
>> Research Worker
>> Department of Psychological Medicine
>> Sections of Eating Disorders and General Hospital Psychiatry
>>
>> Ref No: 07/R68
>>
>> 1. THE INSTITUTE OF PSYCHIATRY
>>
>> 1.1 The Institute of Psychiatry is a postgraduate medical school
>>  associated with
>> the South London and Maudsley NHS Trust, and is a School of King's
>>  College
>> London of the University of London. It has an outstanding international
>> reputation in the field of research and in the most recent HEFCE
>>  Research
>> Assessment Exercise (2001) was awarded the highest (5*) rating. The
>>  Institute
>> has approximately 550 students and over 900 staff and has an annual
>>  turnover of
>> approximately £63 million. The Institute offers a range of Diploma,
>>  MSc, MPhil,
>> and PhD courses in psychiatry, psychology and related basic and
>>  clinical
>> neurosciences.
>>
>> 1.2 The complementary roles of the Institute are
>> .  to pioneer research into new and improved ways of understanding and
>>  treating
>> mental illness and brain disease;
>> . to offer advanced University training for psychiatrists,
>>  psychologists,
>> neurologists and other scientific and paramedical workers.
>> 3. THE SECTION OF GENERAL HOSPITAL PSYCHIATRY
>>
>> The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Research and Treatment Unit receives about
>>  400
>> referrals per year. The multi-disciplinary team assesses and treats
>>  patients
>> with chronic fatigue syndrome and carries out research into both causes
>>  and
>> treatment efficacy.
>>
>> Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
>>  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat is
>>  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
>>  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
>>  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
>>  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.-- 
>> Spencer Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container.
date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:10:45 +0100   author:   GTH

Re: Outragious!!!   
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:10:45 +0100, GTH  wrote:

>I got a reply from the IOP, seems were are not all loony:
>
>*********
>
>I do not agree that the information contained in a professional job 
>description can fairly be described as "shit". Research evidence and 
>clinical experience indicate that many - but not all - people suffering 
>from eating disorders and/or chronic fatigue syndrome do display 
>elements of "avoidant" personality, "avoidant" being a technical 
>psychological term for behaviour in which an individual attempts to 
>evade potential or actual rejection or criticism, often by social 
>withdrawal and introverted behaviour. The aim of the study for which the 
>job is being advertised is partly to quantify these factors.
>
>
>Nor is it true that the description of eating disorders and chronic 
>fatigue disorders as "psychosomatic" in any way implies that they are 
>"all in [your] head". Psychosomosis refers to a process by which 
>psychological processes result in physical symptoms - physical symptoms 
>which are indubitably real and which can be disabling.
>
>*********
>
>G
>

Crap.
I wish it was infectious as I know where I would send it. Everybody
who has ME CFS knows that the words psychosomatic means it's in the
mind to most people they come across. 

Freud
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:49:30 +0100   author:   Freud

Re: Outragious!!!   
The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.

I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:

**********

	Apparently my illness is all in my head:

	http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf

"such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"

	They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have had 		CFS 
for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?

	Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I am 
male).

*********

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they respond.

G


Spencer ©¿©¬ wrote:
> Emotional Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders
> 
> Department of Psychological Medicine
> 
> We would like to invite applications from psychology graduates for the
>  above
> post which will involve working across the Section of Eating Disorders
>  and the
> Chronic Fatigue Research and Treatment Unit on a project entitled
>  'Emotional
> Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders'.
> 
> This project is funded through the newly established Biomedical
>  Research Centre
> at the Institute of Psychiatry.
> 
> The successful candidate will have relevant research experience and
>  preferably
> experience of working with eating disorder and/or chronic fatigue
>  patients.
> 
> Starting salary in the range £23,175 pa to £24,332 pa (inclusive of
>  £2,323pa
> London Allowance), depending on qualifications and experience.
> 
> To obtain further particulars and further information about the
>  Institute,
> please see our website at   http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies   or
> alternatively e-mail vacancies@iop.kcl.ac.uk  .  Applications, in the
>  form of a
> CV (including details of two referees), covering letter and equal
>  opportunities
> statement, should be emailed to this address or posted to the address
>  given in
> the further particulars.
> 
> Please quote reference number 07/R68 in all correspondence.
> 
> Closing date for applications 13th July 2007.
> 
> http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
> 
> FURTHER PARTICULARS
> Research Worker
> Department of Psychological Medicine
> Sections of Eating Disorders and General Hospital Psychiatry
> 
> Ref No: 07/R68
> 
> 1. THE INSTITUTE OF PSYCHIATRY
> 
> 1.1 The Institute of Psychiatry is a postgraduate medical school
>  associated with
> the South London and Maudsley NHS Trust, and is a School of King's
>  College
> London of the University of London. It has an outstanding international
> reputation in the field of research and in the most recent HEFCE
>  Research
> Assessment Exercise (2001) was awarded the highest (5*) rating. The
>  Institute
> has approximately 550 students and over 900 staff and has an annual
>  turnover of
> approximately £63 million. The Institute offers a range of Diploma,
>  MSc, MPhil,
> and PhD courses in psychiatry, psychology and related basic and
>  clinical
> neurosciences.
> 
> 1.2 The complementary roles of the Institute are
> .  to pioneer research into new and improved ways of understanding and
>  treating
> mental illness and brain disease;
> . to offer advanced University training for psychiatrists,
>  psychologists,
> neurologists and other scientific and paramedical workers.
> 3. THE SECTION OF GENERAL HOSPITAL PSYCHIATRY
> 
> The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Research and Treatment Unit receives about
>  400
> referrals per year. The multi-disciplinary team assesses and treats
>  patients
> with chronic fatigue syndrome and carries out research into both causes
>  and
> treatment efficacy.
> 
> Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
>  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat is
>  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
>  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
>  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
>  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.-- Spencer 
> Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container. 
>
date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:13:43 +0100   author:   GTH

Re: Outragious!!!   
"GTH"  wrote in message 
news:5MOdnXkOJdF3bhLbnZ2dnUVZ8t6pnZ2d@bt.com...
| The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.
|
| I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:
|
| **********
|
| Apparently my illness is all in my head:
|
| http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
|
| "such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"
|
| They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have had CFS
| for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?
|
| Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I am
| male).

| Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they 
respond.

Well done! I Feared this group was dead.
I have had it for 17 years and believe it is coused by a variant of HHV6:-

February 22, 2005 – The HHV-6 Foundation, an association formed to raise 
awareness, funding and further research for human herpesvirus (HHV-6), has 
today announced that some cases of chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) may be 
linked to human herpesvirus 6 A variant (HHV-6A). The announcement comes on 
the heels of the International Fatigue Conference on Fatigue Science that 
was held in Japan on February 9-11. The conference was attended by some 200 
scientists from around the world.

| > Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
| >  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat 
is
| >  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
| >  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
| >  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
| >  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.--  
Spencer
| > Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container.
date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 23:38:40 +0100   author:   Spencer ©¿©¬

Re: Outragious!!!   
I got a reply from the IOP, seems were are not all loony:

*********

I do not agree that the information contained in a professional job 
description can fairly be described as "shit". Research evidence and 
clinical experience indicate that many - but not all - people suffering 
from eating disorders and/or chronic fatigue syndrome do display 
elements of "avoidant" personality, "avoidant" being a technical 
psychological term for behaviour in which an individual attempts to 
evade potential or actual rejection or criticism, often by social 
withdrawal and introverted behaviour. The aim of the study for which the 
job is being advertised is partly to quantify these factors.


Nor is it true that the description of eating disorders and chronic 
fatigue disorders as "psychosomatic" in any way implies that they are 
"all in [your] head". Psychosomosis refers to a process by which 
psychological processes result in physical symptoms - physical symptoms 
which are indubitably real and which can be disabling.

*********

G

GTH wrote:
> The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.
> 
> I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:
> 
> **********
> 
>     Apparently my illness is all in my head:
> 
>     http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
> 
> "such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"
> 
>     They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have 
> had         CFS for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?
> 
>     Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I 
> am male).
> 
> *********
> 
> Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they 
> respond.
> 
> G
> 
> 
> Spencer ©¿©¬ wrote:
> 
>> Emotional Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders
>>
>> Department of Psychological Medicine
>>
>> We would like to invite applications from psychology graduates for the
>>  above
>> post which will involve working across the Section of Eating Disorders
>>  and the
>> Chronic Fatigue Research and Treatment Unit on a project entitled
>>  'Emotional
>> Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders'.
>>
>> This project is funded through the newly established Biomedical
>>  Research Centre
>> at the Institute of Psychiatry.
>>
>> The successful candidate will have relevant research experience and
>>  preferably
>> experience of working with eating disorder and/or chronic fatigue
>>  patients.
>>
>> Starting salary in the range £23,175 pa to £24,332 pa (inclusive of
>>  £2,323pa
>> London Allowance), depending on qualifications and experience.
>>
>> To obtain further particulars and further information about the
>>  Institute,
>> please see our website at   http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies   or
>> alternatively e-mail vacancies@iop.kcl.ac.uk  .  Applications, in the
>>  form of a
>> CV (including details of two referees), covering letter and equal
>>  opportunities
>> statement, should be emailed to this address or posted to the address
>>  given in
>> the further particulars.
>>
>> Please quote reference number 07/R68 in all correspondence.
>>
>> Closing date for applications 13th July 2007.
>>
>> http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
>>
>> FURTHER PARTICULARS
>> Research Worker
>> Department of Psychological Medicine
>> Sections of Eating Disorders and General Hospital Psychiatry
>>
>> Ref No: 07/R68
>>
>> 1. THE INSTITUTE OF PSYCHIATRY
>>
>> 1.1 The Institute of Psychiatry is a postgraduate medical school
>>  associated with
>> the South London and Maudsley NHS Trust, and is a School of King's
>>  College
>> London of the University of London. It has an outstanding international
>> reputation in the field of research and in the most recent HEFCE
>>  Research
>> Assessment Exercise (2001) was awarded the highest (5*) rating. The
>>  Institute
>> has approximately 550 students and over 900 staff and has an annual
>>  turnover of
>> approximately £63 million. The Institute offers a range of Diploma,
>>  MSc, MPhil,
>> and PhD courses in psychiatry, psychology and related basic and
>>  clinical
>> neurosciences.
>>
>> 1.2 The complementary roles of the Institute are
>> .  to pioneer research into new and improved ways of understanding and
>>  treating
>> mental illness and brain disease;
>> . to offer advanced University training for psychiatrists,
>>  psychologists,
>> neurologists and other scientific and paramedical workers.
>> 3. THE SECTION OF GENERAL HOSPITAL PSYCHIATRY
>>
>> The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Research and Treatment Unit receives about
>>  400
>> referrals per year. The multi-disciplinary team assesses and treats
>>  patients
>> with chronic fatigue syndrome and carries out research into both causes
>>  and
>> treatment efficacy.
>>
>> Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
>>  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat is
>>  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
>>  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
>>  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
>>  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.-- 
>> Spencer Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container.
date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:10:45 +0100   author:   GTH

Re: Outragious!!!   
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:10:45 +0100, GTH  wrote:

>I got a reply from the IOP, seems were are not all loony:
>
>*********
>
>I do not agree that the information contained in a professional job 
>description can fairly be described as "shit". Research evidence and 
>clinical experience indicate that many - but not all - people suffering 
>from eating disorders and/or chronic fatigue syndrome do display 
>elements of "avoidant" personality, "avoidant" being a technical 
>psychological term for behaviour in which an individual attempts to 
>evade potential or actual rejection or criticism, often by social 
>withdrawal and introverted behaviour. The aim of the study for which the 
>job is being advertised is partly to quantify these factors.
>
>
>Nor is it true that the description of eating disorders and chronic 
>fatigue disorders as "psychosomatic" in any way implies that they are 
>"all in [your] head". Psychosomosis refers to a process by which 
>psychological processes result in physical symptoms - physical symptoms 
>which are indubitably real and which can be disabling.
>
>*********
>
>G
>

Crap.
I wish it was infectious as I know where I would send it. Everybody
who has ME CFS knows that the words psychosomatic means it's in the
mind to most people they come across. 

Freud
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:49:30 +0100   author:   Freud

Re: Outragious!!!   
The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.

I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:

**********

	Apparently my illness is all in my head:

	http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf

"such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"

	They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have had 		CFS 
for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?

	Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I am 
male).

*********

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they respond.

G


Spencer ©¿©¬ wrote:
> Emotional Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders
> 
> Department of Psychological Medicine
> 
> We would like to invite applications from psychology graduates for the
>  above
> post which will involve working across the Section of Eating Disorders
>  and the
> Chronic Fatigue Research and Treatment Unit on a project entitled
>  'Emotional
> Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders'.
> 
> This project is funded through the newly established Biomedical
>  Research Centre
> at the Institute of Psychiatry.
> 
> The successful candidate will have relevant research experience and
>  preferably
> experience of working with eating disorder and/or chronic fatigue
>  patients.
> 
> Starting salary in the range £23,175 pa to £24,332 pa (inclusive of
>  £2,323pa
> London Allowance), depending on qualifications and experience.
> 
> To obtain further particulars and further information about the
>  Institute,
> please see our website at   http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies   or
> alternatively e-mail vacancies@iop.kcl.ac.uk  .  Applications, in the
>  form of a
> CV (including details of two referees), covering letter and equal
>  opportunities
> statement, should be emailed to this address or posted to the address
>  given in
> the further particulars.
> 
> Please quote reference number 07/R68 in all correspondence.
> 
> Closing date for applications 13th July 2007.
> 
> http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
> 
> FURTHER PARTICULARS
> Research Worker
> Department of Psychological Medicine
> Sections of Eating Disorders and General Hospital Psychiatry
> 
> Ref No: 07/R68
> 
> 1. THE INSTITUTE OF PSYCHIATRY
> 
> 1.1 The Institute of Psychiatry is a postgraduate medical school
>  associated with
> the South London and Maudsley NHS Trust, and is a School of King's
>  College
> London of the University of London. It has an outstanding international
> reputation in the field of research and in the most recent HEFCE
>  Research
> Assessment Exercise (2001) was awarded the highest (5*) rating. The
>  Institute
> has approximately 550 students and over 900 staff and has an annual
>  turnover of
> approximately £63 million. The Institute offers a range of Diploma,
>  MSc, MPhil,
> and PhD courses in psychiatry, psychology and related basic and
>  clinical
> neurosciences.
> 
> 1.2 The complementary roles of the Institute are
> .  to pioneer research into new and improved ways of understanding and
>  treating
> mental illness and brain disease;
> . to offer advanced University training for psychiatrists,
>  psychologists,
> neurologists and other scientific and paramedical workers.
> 3. THE SECTION OF GENERAL HOSPITAL PSYCHIATRY
> 
> The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Research and Treatment Unit receives about
>  400
> referrals per year. The multi-disciplinary team assesses and treats
>  patients
> with chronic fatigue syndrome and carries out research into both causes
>  and
> treatment efficacy.
> 
> Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
>  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat is
>  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
>  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
>  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
>  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.-- Spencer 
> Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container. 
>
date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:13:43 +0100   author:   GTH

Re: Outragious!!!   
"GTH"  wrote in message 
news:5MOdnXkOJdF3bhLbnZ2dnUVZ8t6pnZ2d@bt.com...
| The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.
|
| I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:
|
| **********
|
| Apparently my illness is all in my head:
|
| http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
|
| "such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"
|
| They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have had CFS
| for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?
|
| Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I am
| male).

| Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they 
respond.

Well done! I Feared this group was dead.
I have had it for 17 years and believe it is coused by a variant of HHV6:-

February 22, 2005 – The HHV-6 Foundation, an association formed to raise 
awareness, funding and further research for human herpesvirus (HHV-6), has 
today announced that some cases of chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) may be 
linked to human herpesvirus 6 A variant (HHV-6A). The announcement comes on 
the heels of the International Fatigue Conference on Fatigue Science that 
was held in Japan on February 9-11. The conference was attended by some 200 
scientists from around the world.

| > Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
| >  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat 
is
| >  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
| >  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
| >  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
| >  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.--  
Spencer
| > Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container.
date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 23:38:40 +0100   author:   Spencer ©¿©¬

Re: Outragious!!!   
I got a reply from the IOP, seems were are not all loony:

*********

I do not agree that the information contained in a professional job 
description can fairly be described as "shit". Research evidence and 
clinical experience indicate that many - but not all - people suffering 
from eating disorders and/or chronic fatigue syndrome do display 
elements of "avoidant" personality, "avoidant" being a technical 
psychological term for behaviour in which an individual attempts to 
evade potential or actual rejection or criticism, often by social 
withdrawal and introverted behaviour. The aim of the study for which the 
job is being advertised is partly to quantify these factors.


Nor is it true that the description of eating disorders and chronic 
fatigue disorders as "psychosomatic" in any way implies that they are 
"all in [your] head". Psychosomosis refers to a process by which 
psychological processes result in physical symptoms - physical symptoms 
which are indubitably real and which can be disabling.

*********

G

GTH wrote:
> The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.
> 
> I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:
> 
> **********
> 
>     Apparently my illness is all in my head:
> 
>     http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
> 
> "such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"
> 
>     They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have 
> had         CFS for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?
> 
>     Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I 
> am male).
> 
> *********
> 
> Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they 
> respond.
> 
> G
> 
> 
> Spencer ©¿©¬ wrote:
> 
>> Emotional Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders
>>
>> Department of Psychological Medicine
>>
>> We would like to invite applications from psychology graduates for the
>>  above
>> post which will involve working across the Section of Eating Disorders
>>  and the
>> Chronic Fatigue Research and Treatment Unit on a project entitled
>>  'Emotional
>> Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders'.
>>
>> This project is funded through the newly established Biomedical
>>  Research Centre
>> at the Institute of Psychiatry.
>>
>> The successful candidate will have relevant research experience and
>>  preferably
>> experience of working with eating disorder and/or chronic fatigue
>>  patients.
>>
>> Starting salary in the range £23,175 pa to £24,332 pa (inclusive of
>>  £2,323pa
>> London Allowance), depending on qualifications and experience.
>>
>> To obtain further particulars and further information about the
>>  Institute,
>> please see our website at   http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies   or
>> alternatively e-mail vacancies@iop.kcl.ac.uk  .  Applications, in the
>>  form of a
>> CV (including details of two referees), covering letter and equal
>>  opportunities
>> statement, should be emailed to this address or posted to the address
>>  given in
>> the further particulars.
>>
>> Please quote reference number 07/R68 in all correspondence.
>>
>> Closing date for applications 13th July 2007.
>>
>> http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
>>
>> FURTHER PARTICULARS
>> Research Worker
>> Department of Psychological Medicine
>> Sections of Eating Disorders and General Hospital Psychiatry
>>
>> Ref No: 07/R68
>>
>> 1. THE INSTITUTE OF PSYCHIATRY
>>
>> 1.1 The Institute of Psychiatry is a postgraduate medical school
>>  associated with
>> the South London and Maudsley NHS Trust, and is a School of King's
>>  College
>> London of the University of London. It has an outstanding international
>> reputation in the field of research and in the most recent HEFCE
>>  Research
>> Assessment Exercise (2001) was awarded the highest (5*) rating. The
>>  Institute
>> has approximately 550 students and over 900 staff and has an annual
>>  turnover of
>> approximately £63 million. The Institute offers a range of Diploma,
>>  MSc, MPhil,
>> and PhD courses in psychiatry, psychology and related basic and
>>  clinical
>> neurosciences.
>>
>> 1.2 The complementary roles of the Institute are
>> .  to pioneer research into new and improved ways of understanding and
>>  treating
>> mental illness and brain disease;
>> . to offer advanced University training for psychiatrists,
>>  psychologists,
>> neurologists and other scientific and paramedical workers.
>> 3. THE SECTION OF GENERAL HOSPITAL PSYCHIATRY
>>
>> The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Research and Treatment Unit receives about
>>  400
>> referrals per year. The multi-disciplinary team assesses and treats
>>  patients
>> with chronic fatigue syndrome and carries out research into both causes
>>  and
>> treatment efficacy.
>>
>> Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
>>  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat is
>>  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
>>  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
>>  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
>>  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.-- 
>> Spencer Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container.
date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:10:45 +0100   author:   GTH

Re: Outragious!!!   
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:10:45 +0100, GTH  wrote:

>I got a reply from the IOP, seems were are not all loony:
>
>*********
>
>I do not agree that the information contained in a professional job 
>description can fairly be described as "shit". Research evidence and 
>clinical experience indicate that many - but not all - people suffering 
>from eating disorders and/or chronic fatigue syndrome do display 
>elements of "avoidant" personality, "avoidant" being a technical 
>psychological term for behaviour in which an individual attempts to 
>evade potential or actual rejection or criticism, often by social 
>withdrawal and introverted behaviour. The aim of the study for which the 
>job is being advertised is partly to quantify these factors.
>
>
>Nor is it true that the description of eating disorders and chronic 
>fatigue disorders as "psychosomatic" in any way implies that they are 
>"all in [your] head". Psychosomosis refers to a process by which 
>psychological processes result in physical symptoms - physical symptoms 
>which are indubitably real and which can be disabling.
>
>*********
>
>G
>

Crap.
I wish it was infectious as I know where I would send it. Everybody
who has ME CFS knows that the words psychosomatic means it's in the
mind to most people they come across. 

Freud
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:49:30 +0100   author:   Freud

Re: Outragious!!!   
The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.

I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:

**********

	Apparently my illness is all in my head:

	http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf

"such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"

	They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have had 		CFS 
for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?

	Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I am 
male).

*********

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they respond.

G


Spencer ©¿©¬ wrote:
> Emotional Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders
> 
> Department of Psychological Medicine
> 
> We would like to invite applications from psychology graduates for the
>  above
> post which will involve working across the Section of Eating Disorders
>  and the
> Chronic Fatigue Research and Treatment Unit on a project entitled
>  'Emotional
> Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders'.
> 
> This project is funded through the newly established Biomedical
>  Research Centre
> at the Institute of Psychiatry.
> 
> The successful candidate will have relevant research experience and
>  preferably
> experience of working with eating disorder and/or chronic fatigue
>  patients.
> 
> Starting salary in the range £23,175 pa to £24,332 pa (inclusive of
>  £2,323pa
> London Allowance), depending on qualifications and experience.
> 
> To obtain further particulars and further information about the
>  Institute,
> please see our website at   http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies   or
> alternatively e-mail vacancies@iop.kcl.ac.uk  .  Applications, in the
>  form of a
> CV (including details of two referees), covering letter and equal
>  opportunities
> statement, should be emailed to this address or posted to the address
>  given in
> the further particulars.
> 
> Please quote reference number 07/R68 in all correspondence.
> 
> Closing date for applications 13th July 2007.
> 
> http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
> 
> FURTHER PARTICULARS
> Research Worker
> Department of Psychological Medicine
> Sections of Eating Disorders and General Hospital Psychiatry
> 
> Ref No: 07/R68
> 
> 1. THE INSTITUTE OF PSYCHIATRY
> 
> 1.1 The Institute of Psychiatry is a postgraduate medical school
>  associated with
> the South London and Maudsley NHS Trust, and is a School of King's
>  College
> London of the University of London. It has an outstanding international
> reputation in the field of research and in the most recent HEFCE
>  Research
> Assessment Exercise (2001) was awarded the highest (5*) rating. The
>  Institute
> has approximately 550 students and over 900 staff and has an annual
>  turnover of
> approximately £63 million. The Institute offers a range of Diploma,
>  MSc, MPhil,
> and PhD courses in psychiatry, psychology and related basic and
>  clinical
> neurosciences.
> 
> 1.2 The complementary roles of the Institute are
> .  to pioneer research into new and improved ways of understanding and
>  treating
> mental illness and brain disease;
> . to offer advanced University training for psychiatrists,
>  psychologists,
> neurologists and other scientific and paramedical workers.
> 3. THE SECTION OF GENERAL HOSPITAL PSYCHIATRY
> 
> The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Research and Treatment Unit receives about
>  400
> referrals per year. The multi-disciplinary team assesses and treats
>  patients
> with chronic fatigue syndrome and carries out research into both causes
>  and
> treatment efficacy.
> 
> Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
>  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat is
>  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
>  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
>  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
>  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.-- Spencer 
> Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container. 
>
date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:13:43 +0100   author:   GTH

Re: Outragious!!!   
"GTH"  wrote in message 
news:5MOdnXkOJdF3bhLbnZ2dnUVZ8t6pnZ2d@bt.com...
| The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.
|
| I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:
|
| **********
|
| Apparently my illness is all in my head:
|
| http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
|
| "such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"
|
| They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have had CFS
| for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?
|
| Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I am
| male).

| Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they 
respond.

Well done! I Feared this group was dead.
I have had it for 17 years and believe it is coused by a variant of HHV6:-

February 22, 2005 – The HHV-6 Foundation, an association formed to raise 
awareness, funding and further research for human herpesvirus (HHV-6), has 
today announced that some cases of chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) may be 
linked to human herpesvirus 6 A variant (HHV-6A). The announcement comes on 
the heels of the International Fatigue Conference on Fatigue Science that 
was held in Japan on February 9-11. The conference was attended by some 200 
scientists from around the world.

| > Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
| >  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat 
is
| >  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
| >  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
| >  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
| >  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.--  
Spencer
| > Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container.
date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 23:38:40 +0100   author:   Spencer ©¿©¬

Re: Outragious!!!   
I got a reply from the IOP, seems were are not all loony:

*********

I do not agree that the information contained in a professional job 
description can fairly be described as "shit". Research evidence and 
clinical experience indicate that many - but not all - people suffering 
from eating disorders and/or chronic fatigue syndrome do display 
elements of "avoidant" personality, "avoidant" being a technical 
psychological term for behaviour in which an individual attempts to 
evade potential or actual rejection or criticism, often by social 
withdrawal and introverted behaviour. The aim of the study for which the 
job is being advertised is partly to quantify these factors.


Nor is it true that the description of eating disorders and chronic 
fatigue disorders as "psychosomatic" in any way implies that they are 
"all in [your] head". Psychosomosis refers to a process by which 
psychological processes result in physical symptoms - physical symptoms 
which are indubitably real and which can be disabling.

*********

G

GTH wrote:
> The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.
> 
> I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:
> 
> **********
> 
>     Apparently my illness is all in my head:
> 
>     http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
> 
> "such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"
> 
>     They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have 
> had         CFS for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?
> 
>     Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I 
> am male).
> 
> *********
> 
> Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they 
> respond.
> 
> G
> 
> 
> Spencer ©¿©¬ wrote:
> 
>> Emotional Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders
>>
>> Department of Psychological Medicine
>>
>> We would like to invite applications from psychology graduates for the
>>  above
>> post which will involve working across the Section of Eating Disorders
>>  and the
>> Chronic Fatigue Research and Treatment Unit on a project entitled
>>  'Emotional
>> Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders'.
>>
>> This project is funded through the newly established Biomedical
>>  Research Centre
>> at the Institute of Psychiatry.
>>
>> The successful candidate will have relevant research experience and
>>  preferably
>> experience of working with eating disorder and/or chronic fatigue
>>  patients.
>>
>> Starting salary in the range £23,175 pa to £24,332 pa (inclusive of
>>  £2,323pa
>> London Allowance), depending on qualifications and experience.
>>
>> To obtain further particulars and further information about the
>>  Institute,
>> please see our website at   http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies   or
>> alternatively e-mail vacancies@iop.kcl.ac.uk  .  Applications, in the
>>  form of a
>> CV (including details of two referees), covering letter and equal
>>  opportunities
>> statement, should be emailed to this address or posted to the address
>>  given in
>> the further particulars.
>>
>> Please quote reference number 07/R68 in all correspondence.
>>
>> Closing date for applications 13th July 2007.
>>
>> http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
>>
>> FURTHER PARTICULARS
>> Research Worker
>> Department of Psychological Medicine
>> Sections of Eating Disorders and General Hospital Psychiatry
>>
>> Ref No: 07/R68
>>
>> 1. THE INSTITUTE OF PSYCHIATRY
>>
>> 1.1 The Institute of Psychiatry is a postgraduate medical school
>>  associated with
>> the South London and Maudsley NHS Trust, and is a School of King's
>>  College
>> London of the University of London. It has an outstanding international
>> reputation in the field of research and in the most recent HEFCE
>>  Research
>> Assessment Exercise (2001) was awarded the highest (5*) rating. The
>>  Institute
>> has approximately 550 students and over 900 staff and has an annual
>>  turnover of
>> approximately £63 million. The Institute offers a range of Diploma,
>>  MSc, MPhil,
>> and PhD courses in psychiatry, psychology and related basic and
>>  clinical
>> neurosciences.
>>
>> 1.2 The complementary roles of the Institute are
>> .  to pioneer research into new and improved ways of understanding and
>>  treating
>> mental illness and brain disease;
>> . to offer advanced University training for psychiatrists,
>>  psychologists,
>> neurologists and other scientific and paramedical workers.
>> 3. THE SECTION OF GENERAL HOSPITAL PSYCHIATRY
>>
>> The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Research and Treatment Unit receives about
>>  400
>> referrals per year. The multi-disciplinary team assesses and treats
>>  patients
>> with chronic fatigue syndrome and carries out research into both causes
>>  and
>> treatment efficacy.
>>
>> Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
>>  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat is
>>  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
>>  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
>>  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
>>  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.-- 
>> Spencer Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container.
date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:10:45 +0100   author:   GTH

Re: Outragious!!!   
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:10:45 +0100, GTH  wrote:

>I got a reply from the IOP, seems were are not all loony:
>
>*********
>
>I do not agree that the information contained in a professional job 
>description can fairly be described as "shit". Research evidence and 
>clinical experience indicate that many - but not all - people suffering 
>from eating disorders and/or chronic fatigue syndrome do display 
>elements of "avoidant" personality, "avoidant" being a technical 
>psychological term for behaviour in which an individual attempts to 
>evade potential or actual rejection or criticism, often by social 
>withdrawal and introverted behaviour. The aim of the study for which the 
>job is being advertised is partly to quantify these factors.
>
>
>Nor is it true that the description of eating disorders and chronic 
>fatigue disorders as "psychosomatic" in any way implies that they are 
>"all in [your] head". Psychosomosis refers to a process by which 
>psychological processes result in physical symptoms - physical symptoms 
>which are indubitably real and which can be disabling.
>
>*********
>
>G
>

Crap.
I wish it was infectious as I know where I would send it. Everybody
who has ME CFS knows that the words psychosomatic means it's in the
mind to most people they come across. 

Freud
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:49:30 +0100   author:   Freud

Re: Outragious!!!   
The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.

I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:

**********

	Apparently my illness is all in my head:

	http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf

"such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"

	They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have had 		CFS 
for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?

	Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I am 
male).

*********

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they respond.

G


Spencer ©¿©¬ wrote:
> Emotional Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders
> 
> Department of Psychological Medicine
> 
> We would like to invite applications from psychology graduates for the
>  above
> post which will involve working across the Section of Eating Disorders
>  and the
> Chronic Fatigue Research and Treatment Unit on a project entitled
>  'Emotional
> Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders'.
> 
> This project is funded through the newly established Biomedical
>  Research Centre
> at the Institute of Psychiatry.
> 
> The successful candidate will have relevant research experience and
>  preferably
> experience of working with eating disorder and/or chronic fatigue
>  patients.
> 
> Starting salary in the range £23,175 pa to £24,332 pa (inclusive of
>  £2,323pa
> London Allowance), depending on qualifications and experience.
> 
> To obtain further particulars and further information about the
>  Institute,
> please see our website at   http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies   or
> alternatively e-mail vacancies@iop.kcl.ac.uk  .  Applications, in the
>  form of a
> CV (including details of two referees), covering letter and equal
>  opportunities
> statement, should be emailed to this address or posted to the address
>  given in
> the further particulars.
> 
> Please quote reference number 07/R68 in all correspondence.
> 
> Closing date for applications 13th July 2007.
> 
> http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
> 
> FURTHER PARTICULARS
> Research Worker
> Department of Psychological Medicine
> Sections of Eating Disorders and General Hospital Psychiatry
> 
> Ref No: 07/R68
> 
> 1. THE INSTITUTE OF PSYCHIATRY
> 
> 1.1 The Institute of Psychiatry is a postgraduate medical school
>  associated with
> the South London and Maudsley NHS Trust, and is a School of King's
>  College
> London of the University of London. It has an outstanding international
> reputation in the field of research and in the most recent HEFCE
>  Research
> Assessment Exercise (2001) was awarded the highest (5*) rating. The
>  Institute
> has approximately 550 students and over 900 staff and has an annual
>  turnover of
> approximately £63 million. The Institute offers a range of Diploma,
>  MSc, MPhil,
> and PhD courses in psychiatry, psychology and related basic and
>  clinical
> neurosciences.
> 
> 1.2 The complementary roles of the Institute are
> .  to pioneer research into new and improved ways of understanding and
>  treating
> mental illness and brain disease;
> . to offer advanced University training for psychiatrists,
>  psychologists,
> neurologists and other scientific and paramedical workers.
> 3. THE SECTION OF GENERAL HOSPITAL PSYCHIATRY
> 
> The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Research and Treatment Unit receives about
>  400
> referrals per year. The multi-disciplinary team assesses and treats
>  patients
> with chronic fatigue syndrome and carries out research into both causes
>  and
> treatment efficacy.
> 
> Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
>  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat is
>  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
>  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
>  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
>  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.-- Spencer 
> Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container. 
>
date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:13:43 +0100   author:   GTH

Re: Outragious!!!   
"GTH"  wrote in message 
news:5MOdnXkOJdF3bhLbnZ2dnUVZ8t6pnZ2d@bt.com...
| The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.
|
| I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:
|
| **********
|
| Apparently my illness is all in my head:
|
| http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
|
| "such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"
|
| They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have had CFS
| for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?
|
| Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I am
| male).

| Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they 
respond.

Well done! I Feared this group was dead.
I have had it for 17 years and believe it is coused by a variant of HHV6:-

February 22, 2005 – The HHV-6 Foundation, an association formed to raise 
awareness, funding and further research for human herpesvirus (HHV-6), has 
today announced that some cases of chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) may be 
linked to human herpesvirus 6 A variant (HHV-6A). The announcement comes on 
the heels of the International Fatigue Conference on Fatigue Science that 
was held in Japan on February 9-11. The conference was attended by some 200 
scientists from around the world.

| > Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
| >  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat 
is
| >  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
| >  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
| >  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
| >  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.--  
Spencer
| > Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container.
date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 23:38:40 +0100   author:   Spencer ©¿©¬

Re: Outragious!!!   
I got a reply from the IOP, seems were are not all loony:

*********

I do not agree that the information contained in a professional job 
description can fairly be described as "shit". Research evidence and 
clinical experience indicate that many - but not all - people suffering 
from eating disorders and/or chronic fatigue syndrome do display 
elements of "avoidant" personality, "avoidant" being a technical 
psychological term for behaviour in which an individual attempts to 
evade potential or actual rejection or criticism, often by social 
withdrawal and introverted behaviour. The aim of the study for which the 
job is being advertised is partly to quantify these factors.


Nor is it true that the description of eating disorders and chronic 
fatigue disorders as "psychosomatic" in any way implies that they are 
"all in [your] head". Psychosomosis refers to a process by which 
psychological processes result in physical symptoms - physical symptoms 
which are indubitably real and which can be disabling.

*********

G

GTH wrote:
> The last paragraph is classic. At least the pay isn't brilliant.
> 
> I was so incensed I went to their website and sent them an e-mail:
> 
> **********
> 
>     Apparently my illness is all in my head:
> 
>     http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
> 
> "such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant"
> 
>     They pay people like you to come up with this shit? I have 
> had         CFS for 12 years, do I sound like I am an "advoidant"?
> 
>     Can I please take part in your study? I dare you to cure me! (BTW I 
> am male).
> 
> *********
> 
> Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll let you know if they 
> respond.
> 
> G
> 
> 
> Spencer ©¿©¬ wrote:
> 
>> Emotional Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders
>>
>> Department of Psychological Medicine
>>
>> We would like to invite applications from psychology graduates for the
>>  above
>> post which will involve working across the Section of Eating Disorders
>>  and the
>> Chronic Fatigue Research and Treatment Unit on a project entitled
>>  'Emotional
>> Processing in Psychosomatic Disorders'.
>>
>> This project is funded through the newly established Biomedical
>>  Research Centre
>> at the Institute of Psychiatry.
>>
>> The successful candidate will have relevant research experience and
>>  preferably
>> experience of working with eating disorder and/or chronic fatigue
>>  patients.
>>
>> Starting salary in the range £23,175 pa to £24,332 pa (inclusive of
>>  £2,323pa
>> London Allowance), depending on qualifications and experience.
>>
>> To obtain further particulars and further information about the
>>  Institute,
>> please see our website at   http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies   or
>> alternatively e-mail vacancies@iop.kcl.ac.uk  .  Applications, in the
>>  form of a
>> CV (including details of two referees), covering letter and equal
>>  opportunities
>> statement, should be emailed to this address or posted to the address
>>  given in
>> the further particulars.
>>
>> Please quote reference number 07/R68 in all correspondence.
>>
>> Closing date for applications 13th July 2007.
>>
>> http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/vacancies/downloads/0740.pdf
>>
>> FURTHER PARTICULARS
>> Research Worker
>> Department of Psychological Medicine
>> Sections of Eating Disorders and General Hospital Psychiatry
>>
>> Ref No: 07/R68
>>
>> 1. THE INSTITUTE OF PSYCHIATRY
>>
>> 1.1 The Institute of Psychiatry is a postgraduate medical school
>>  associated with
>> the South London and Maudsley NHS Trust, and is a School of King's
>>  College
>> London of the University of London. It has an outstanding international
>> reputation in the field of research and in the most recent HEFCE
>>  Research
>> Assessment Exercise (2001) was awarded the highest (5*) rating. The
>>  Institute
>> has approximately 550 students and over 900 staff and has an annual
>>  turnover of
>> approximately £63 million. The Institute offers a range of Diploma,
>>  MSc, MPhil,
>> and PhD courses in psychiatry, psychology and related basic and
>>  clinical
>> neurosciences.
>>
>> 1.2 The complementary roles of the Institute are
>> .  to pioneer research into new and improved ways of understanding and
>>  treating
>> mental illness and brain disease;
>> . to offer advanced University training for psychiatrists,
>>  psychologists,
>> neurologists and other scientific and paramedical workers.
>> 3. THE SECTION OF GENERAL HOSPITAL PSYCHIATRY
>>
>> The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Research and Treatment Unit receives about
>>  400
>> referrals per year. The multi-disciplinary team assesses and treats
>>  patients
>> with chronic fatigue syndrome and carries out research into both causes
>>  and
>> treatment efficacy.
>>
>> Background: Anorexia nervosa (AN) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)
>>  are classical psychosomatic disorders where response to social threat is
>>  expressed somatically (e.g. Hatcher & House, 2003; Kato et al., 2006;
>>  Schmidt et al., 1997). Other similarities between these disorders
>>  include strong female preponderance and overlapping personality
>>  characteristics, such as being introverted and anxious/avoidant.-- 
>> Spencer Manchester M13 UK A cat will assume the shape of its container.
date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:10:45 +0100   author:   GTH

Re: Outragious!!!   
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:10:45 +0100, GTH  wrote:

>I got a reply from the IOP, seems were are not all loony:
>
>*********
>
>I do not agree that the information contained in a professional job 
>description can fairly be described as "shit". Research evidence and 
>clinical experience indicate that many - but not all - people suffering 
>from eating disorders and/or chronic fatigue syndrome do display 
>elements of "avoidant" personality, "avoidant" being a technical 
>psychological term for behaviour in which an individual attempts to 
>evade potential or actual rejection or criticism, often by social 
>withdrawal and introverted behaviour. The aim of the study for which the 
>job is being advertised is partly to quantify these factors.
>
>
>Nor is it true that the description of eating disorders and chronic 
>fatigue disorders as "psychosomatic" in any way implies that they are 
>"all in [your] head". Psychosomosis refers to a process by which 
>psychological processes result in physical symptoms - physical symptoms 
>which are indubitably real and which can be disabling.
>
>*********
>
>G
>

Crap.
I wish it was infectious as I know where I would send it. Everybody
who has ME CFS knows that the words psychosomatic means it's in the
mind to most people they come across. 

Freud
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:49:30 +0100   author:   Freud

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