To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
-Lyme Disease
-mercury poisoning
-organophoshpate poisoning
-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS


so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
things that attack the nervous system?

-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.

So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?

Seems logical to me!

Steve

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On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

"James"  wrote in message 
news:mitm23pt8ekdj8grt4kk3hqspkpljbjirr@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
>  wrote:
>
>>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>>-Lyme Disease
>>-mercury poisoning
>>-organophoshpate poisoning
>>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>>
>>
>>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by 
>>these
>>things that attack the nervous system?
>>
>>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain 
>>barrier.
>>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so 
>>they
>>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>>
>>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but,
>>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were,
>>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any
>>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates
>>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>>
>>Seems logical to me!
>>
>>Steve
> Hi,
>   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
> I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
> the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
> As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
> System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
> body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
> flu in a few hours !!.
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> James

just hope they actually do research on ME as more than looking at small 
parts, but the sum of the whole, sigh, some do but so much tiem has been 
wasted by the lunatic psychiatric lobby :/

On Tue, 01 May 2007 11:16:18 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>"James"  wrote in message 
>news:mitm23pt8ekdj8grt4kk3hqspkpljbjirr@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>>>-Lyme Disease
>>>-mercury poisoning
>>>-organophoshpate poisoning
>>>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>>>
>>>
>>>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by 
>>>these
>>>things that attack the nervous system?
>>>
>>>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain 
>>>barrier.
>>>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>>>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so 
>>>they
>>>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>>>
>>>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but,
>>>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were,
>>>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>>>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any
>>>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates
>>>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>>>
>>>Seems logical to me!
>>>
>>>Steve
>> Hi,
>>   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
>> I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
>> the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
>> As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
>> System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
>> body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
>> flu in a few hours !!.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> James
>
>just hope they actually do research on ME as more than looking at small 
>parts, but the sum of the whole, sigh, some do but so much tiem has been 
>wasted by the lunatic psychiatric lobby :/ 
>
 I agree but it does not seem to be a priority ATM. How many people
have to suffer before the medical profession start to treat this
illness more seriously.
Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

"James"  wrote in message 
news:mitm23pt8ekdj8grt4kk3hqspkpljbjirr@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
>  wrote:
>
>>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>>-Lyme Disease
>>-mercury poisoning
>>-organophoshpate poisoning
>>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>>
>>
>>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by 
>>these
>>things that attack the nervous system?
>>
>>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain 
>>barrier.
>>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so 
>>they
>>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>>
>>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but,
>>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were,
>>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any
>>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates
>>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>>
>>Seems logical to me!
>>
>>Steve
> Hi,
>   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
> I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
> the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
> As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
> System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
> body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
> flu in a few hours !!.
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> James

just hope they actually do research on ME as more than looking at small 
parts, but the sum of the whole, sigh, some do but so much tiem has been 
wasted by the lunatic psychiatric lobby :/

On Tue, 01 May 2007 11:16:18 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>"James"  wrote in message 
>news:mitm23pt8ekdj8grt4kk3hqspkpljbjirr@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>>>-Lyme Disease
>>>-mercury poisoning
>>>-organophoshpate poisoning
>>>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>>>
>>>
>>>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by 
>>>these
>>>things that attack the nervous system?
>>>
>>>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain 
>>>barrier.
>>>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>>>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so 
>>>they
>>>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>>>
>>>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but,
>>>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were,
>>>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>>>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any
>>>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates
>>>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>>>
>>>Seems logical to me!
>>>
>>>Steve
>> Hi,
>>   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
>> I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
>> the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
>> As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
>> System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
>> body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
>> flu in a few hours !!.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> James
>
>just hope they actually do research on ME as more than looking at small 
>parts, but the sum of the whole, sigh, some do but so much tiem has been 
>wasted by the lunatic psychiatric lobby :/ 
>
 I agree but it does not seem to be a priority ATM. How many people
have to suffer before the medical profession start to treat this
illness more seriously.
Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

"James"  wrote in message 
news:mitm23pt8ekdj8grt4kk3hqspkpljbjirr@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
>  wrote:
>
>>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>>-Lyme Disease
>>-mercury poisoning
>>-organophoshpate poisoning
>>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>>
>>
>>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by 
>>these
>>things that attack the nervous system?
>>
>>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain 
>>barrier.
>>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so 
>>they
>>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>>
>>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but,
>>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were,
>>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any
>>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates
>>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>>
>>Seems logical to me!
>>
>>Steve
> Hi,
>   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
> I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
> the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
> As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
> System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
> body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
> flu in a few hours !!.
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> James

just hope they actually do research on ME as more than looking at small 
parts, but the sum of the whole, sigh, some do but so much tiem has been 
wasted by the lunatic psychiatric lobby :/

On Tue, 01 May 2007 11:16:18 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>"James"  wrote in message 
>news:mitm23pt8ekdj8grt4kk3hqspkpljbjirr@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>>>-Lyme Disease
>>>-mercury poisoning
>>>-organophoshpate poisoning
>>>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>>>
>>>
>>>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by 
>>>these
>>>things that attack the nervous system?
>>>
>>>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain 
>>>barrier.
>>>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>>>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so 
>>>they
>>>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>>>
>>>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but,
>>>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were,
>>>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>>>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any
>>>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates
>>>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>>>
>>>Seems logical to me!
>>>
>>>Steve
>> Hi,
>>   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
>> I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
>> the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
>> As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
>> System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
>> body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
>> flu in a few hours !!.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> James
>
>just hope they actually do research on ME as more than looking at small 
>parts, but the sum of the whole, sigh, some do but so much tiem has been 
>wasted by the lunatic psychiatric lobby :/ 
>
 I agree but it does not seem to be a priority ATM. How many people
have to suffer before the medical profession start to treat this
illness more seriously.
Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

"James"  wrote in message 
news:mitm23pt8ekdj8grt4kk3hqspkpljbjirr@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
>  wrote:
>
>>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>>-Lyme Disease
>>-mercury poisoning
>>-organophoshpate poisoning
>>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>>
>>
>>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by 
>>these
>>things that attack the nervous system?
>>
>>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain 
>>barrier.
>>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so 
>>they
>>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>>
>>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but,
>>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were,
>>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any
>>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates
>>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>>
>>Seems logical to me!
>>
>>Steve
> Hi,
>   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
> I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
> the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
> As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
> System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
> body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
> flu in a few hours !!.
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> James

just hope they actually do research on ME as more than looking at small 
parts, but the sum of the whole, sigh, some do but so much tiem has been 
wasted by the lunatic psychiatric lobby :/

On Tue, 01 May 2007 11:16:18 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>"James"  wrote in message 
>news:mitm23pt8ekdj8grt4kk3hqspkpljbjirr@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>>>-Lyme Disease
>>>-mercury poisoning
>>>-organophoshpate poisoning
>>>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>>>
>>>
>>>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by 
>>>these
>>>things that attack the nervous system?
>>>
>>>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain 
>>>barrier.
>>>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>>>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so 
>>>they
>>>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>>>
>>>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but,
>>>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were,
>>>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>>>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any
>>>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates
>>>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>>>
>>>Seems logical to me!
>>>
>>>Steve
>> Hi,
>>   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
>> I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
>> the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
>> As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
>> System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
>> body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
>> flu in a few hours !!.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> James
>
>just hope they actually do research on ME as more than looking at small 
>parts, but the sum of the whole, sigh, some do but so much tiem has been 
>wasted by the lunatic psychiatric lobby :/ 
>
 I agree but it does not seem to be a priority ATM. How many people
have to suffer before the medical profession start to treat this
illness more seriously.
Regards
James

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>-Lyme Disease
>-mercury poisoning
>-organophoshpate poisoning
>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>
>
>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by these 
>things that attack the nervous system?
>
>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain barrier.
>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so they 
>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>
>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but, 
>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were, 
>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any 
>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates 
>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>
>Seems logical to me!
>
>Steve
 Hi,
   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
flu in a few hours !!.




Regards
James

"James"  wrote in message 
news:mitm23pt8ekdj8grt4kk3hqspkpljbjirr@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
>  wrote:
>
>>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>>-Lyme Disease
>>-mercury poisoning
>>-organophoshpate poisoning
>>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>>
>>
>>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by 
>>these
>>things that attack the nervous system?
>>
>>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain 
>>barrier.
>>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so 
>>they
>>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>>
>>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but,
>>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were,
>>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any
>>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates
>>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>>
>>Seems logical to me!
>>
>>Steve
> Hi,
>   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
> I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
> the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
> As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
> System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
> body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
> flu in a few hours !!.
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> James

just hope they actually do research on ME as more than looking at small 
parts, but the sum of the whole, sigh, some do but so much tiem has been 
wasted by the lunatic psychiatric lobby :/

On Tue, 01 May 2007 11:16:18 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
 wrote:

>"James"  wrote in message 
>news:mitm23pt8ekdj8grt4kk3hqspkpljbjirr@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:01:47 GMT, "Steven \(Silverblade\)"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>To me, it seems several things cause similar illnesses:
>>>-Lyme Disease
>>>-mercury poisoning
>>>-organophoshpate poisoning
>>>-possibly two virsuses associated with ME/CFS
>>>
>>>
>>>so, what if, ME/CFS is actually an auto immune disorder, triggered by 
>>>these
>>>things that attack the nervous system?
>>>
>>>-the body can't get to the brain to kill diseases, the blood/brain 
>>>barrier.
>>>-ME/CFS is a LOT like the 'Flu
>>>-the symptoms of the Flu are largely your body killing the bugs off so 
>>>they
>>>cna't get to the brain and other vital organs.
>>>
>>>So, is ME/CFS really some event activating a response from the body, but,
>>>it's either incompletely triggered or not turned off properly, as it were,
>>>thus your body keeps thinking there's a danger to the nervous system?
>>>note how ME/CFS gets so bad with stress/illness/drugs of almost any
>>>kind...is the body seeing this as signs of "More infection", so retaliates
>>>harder...leading to a cycle of increasing harm?
>>>
>>>Seems logical to me!
>>>
>>>Steve
>> Hi,
>>   I believe it is and my Doctor refers to it as such.
>> I have felt like I have the Flu when I wake up some mornings with all
>> the symptoms including streaming nose but it is gone by the afternoon.
>> As you say the symptoms of many illnesses are caused by the Immune
>> System fighting the virus or bacteria in your system. With M.E the
>> body reacts without the virus being present. You cannot get over the
>> flu in a few hours !!.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> James
>
>just hope they actually do research on ME as more than looking at small 
>parts, but the sum of the whole, sigh, some do but so much tiem has been 
>wasted by the lunatic psychiatric lobby :/ 
>
 I agree but it does not seem to be a priority ATM. How many people
have to suffer before the medical profession start to treat this
illness more seriously.
Regards
James