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Alastair Reynolds? What order?
What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
order?
Cheers.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:06:57 -0700
author: ChrisC
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In article ,
ChrisC wrote:
>What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>order?
The only ones that form a series proper are:
Revelation Space
Redemption Ark
Absolution Gap
Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
--
Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:07:06 +0000 (UTC)
author: (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 1:07 pm, lei...@pvv.ntnu.no (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y) wrote:
> In article ,
>
> ChrisC wrote:
> >What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> >started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> >order?
>
> The only ones that form a series proper are:
>
> Revelation Space
> Redemption Ark
> Absolution Gap
>
> Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
> plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
> some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
> anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
>
> --
> Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
Thanks that helps greatly.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:25:26 -0700
author: ChrisC
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 11:06 am, ChrisC wrote:
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
Reading series in the order they were written is always the best
option, and in this case, along with the novels, there are also many
short stories that are crucial to the understanding of many plot
elements from the novels. I would suggest getting hold of the story
collection _Galactic North_. It spans the entire history of Renolds'
Revelation Space universe and then some - and many details you
encounter in his novels may seem unexplained unless you read the short
stories first (at least those that were written before the novels).
This is from experience - I made the mistake of not reading the short
stories (well, they were not yet collected in book form then) before I
went on to Redemption Ark and Absolution Gap and I'm pretty certain my
enjoyment of them was hampered.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:03:18 -0700
author: Michael Grosberg
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In article ,
ChrisC wrote:
>What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>order?
The only ones that form a series proper are:
Revelation Space
Redemption Ark
Absolution Gap
Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
--
Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:07:06 +0000 (UTC)
author: (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 1:07 pm, lei...@pvv.ntnu.no (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y) wrote:
> In article ,
>
> ChrisC wrote:
> >What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> >started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> >order?
>
> The only ones that form a series proper are:
>
> Revelation Space
> Redemption Ark
> Absolution Gap
>
> Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
> plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
> some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
> anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
>
> --
> Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
Thanks that helps greatly.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:25:26 -0700
author: ChrisC
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 11:06 am, ChrisC wrote:
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
Reading series in the order they were written is always the best
option, and in this case, along with the novels, there are also many
short stories that are crucial to the understanding of many plot
elements from the novels. I would suggest getting hold of the story
collection _Galactic North_. It spans the entire history of Renolds'
Revelation Space universe and then some - and many details you
encounter in his novels may seem unexplained unless you read the short
stories first (at least those that were written before the novels).
This is from experience - I made the mistake of not reading the short
stories (well, they were not yet collected in book form then) before I
went on to Redemption Ark and Absolution Gap and I'm pretty certain my
enjoyment of them was hampered.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:03:18 -0700
author: Michael Grosberg
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
"ChrisC" wrote in message
news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
>
Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
what the publisher releases).
-- Ken from Chicago
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:44:20 -0500
author: Ken from Chicago
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In article ,
ChrisC wrote:
>What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>order?
The only ones that form a series proper are:
Revelation Space
Redemption Ark
Absolution Gap
Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
--
Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:07:06 +0000 (UTC)
author: (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 1:07 pm, lei...@pvv.ntnu.no (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y) wrote:
> In article ,
>
> ChrisC wrote:
> >What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> >started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> >order?
>
> The only ones that form a series proper are:
>
> Revelation Space
> Redemption Ark
> Absolution Gap
>
> Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
> plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
> some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
> anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
>
> --
> Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
Thanks that helps greatly.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:25:26 -0700
author: ChrisC
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 11:06 am, ChrisC wrote:
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
Reading series in the order they were written is always the best
option, and in this case, along with the novels, there are also many
short stories that are crucial to the understanding of many plot
elements from the novels. I would suggest getting hold of the story
collection _Galactic North_. It spans the entire history of Renolds'
Revelation Space universe and then some - and many details you
encounter in his novels may seem unexplained unless you read the short
stories first (at least those that were written before the novels).
This is from experience - I made the mistake of not reading the short
stories (well, they were not yet collected in book form then) before I
went on to Redemption Ark and Absolution Gap and I'm pretty certain my
enjoyment of them was hampered.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:03:18 -0700
author: Michael Grosberg
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
"ChrisC" wrote in message
news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
>
Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
what the publisher releases).
-- Ken from Chicago
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:44:20 -0500
author: Ken from Chicago
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
Chicago declared:
> "ChrisC" wrote in message
> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>> order?
>>
> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
> what the publisher releases).
>
But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
first and much better written.
--
Sean O'Hara <http://diogenes-sinope.blogspot.com>
It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them.
-Caron de Beaumarchais
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400
author: Sean O'Hara
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In article ,
ChrisC wrote:
>What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>order?
The only ones that form a series proper are:
Revelation Space
Redemption Ark
Absolution Gap
Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
--
Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:07:06 +0000 (UTC)
author: (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 1:07 pm, lei...@pvv.ntnu.no (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y) wrote:
> In article ,
>
> ChrisC wrote:
> >What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> >started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> >order?
>
> The only ones that form a series proper are:
>
> Revelation Space
> Redemption Ark
> Absolution Gap
>
> Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
> plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
> some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
> anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
>
> --
> Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
Thanks that helps greatly.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:25:26 -0700
author: ChrisC
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 11:06 am, ChrisC wrote:
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
Reading series in the order they were written is always the best
option, and in this case, along with the novels, there are also many
short stories that are crucial to the understanding of many plot
elements from the novels. I would suggest getting hold of the story
collection _Galactic North_. It spans the entire history of Renolds'
Revelation Space universe and then some - and many details you
encounter in his novels may seem unexplained unless you read the short
stories first (at least those that were written before the novels).
This is from experience - I made the mistake of not reading the short
stories (well, they were not yet collected in book form then) before I
went on to Redemption Ark and Absolution Gap and I'm pretty certain my
enjoyment of them was hampered.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:03:18 -0700
author: Michael Grosberg
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
"ChrisC" wrote in message
news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
>
Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
what the publisher releases).
-- Ken from Chicago
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:44:20 -0500
author: Ken from Chicago
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
Chicago declared:
> "ChrisC" wrote in message
> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>> order?
>>
> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
> what the publisher releases).
>
But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
first and much better written.
--
Sean O'Hara <http://diogenes-sinope.blogspot.com>
It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them.
-Caron de Beaumarchais
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400
author: Sean O'Hara
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400, Sean O'Hara
wrote:
>In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
>Chicago declared:
>> "ChrisC" wrote in message
>> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>>> order?
>>>
>> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
>> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
>> what the publisher releases).
>>
>
>But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
>Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
>it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
>recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
>Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
>first and much better written.
As previously noted, the relevant short stories are collected in
"Galactic North" (also the name of the last story in the collection).
They are arranged in internal chronological order, and I think that it
would be extremely confusing to read them in any other order. As
Reynolds points out in his Afterword, the first to be written comes
half way through ("Dilation Sleep", which was published ten years
before any of the novels). He also says that "Revelation Space",
"Chasm City" and two of the short stories, including "Galactic North",
which is necessarily the last by internal logic, were being worked on
simultaneously, so "read in the order in which they were written" is
actually meaningless in this case.
I can't think of any example of an author constructing a "future"
history" by beginning at the beginning and going on consecutively to
the end (now there's a challenge!). Even Asimov reversed the order of
two stories for book publication, and wrote the first section last (I
ignore the late potboilers).
--
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"
date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:04:06 +0100
author: Don Aitken
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In article ,
ChrisC wrote:
>What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>order?
The only ones that form a series proper are:
Revelation Space
Redemption Ark
Absolution Gap
Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
--
Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:07:06 +0000 (UTC)
author: (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 1:07 pm, lei...@pvv.ntnu.no (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y) wrote:
> In article ,
>
> ChrisC wrote:
> >What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> >started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> >order?
>
> The only ones that form a series proper are:
>
> Revelation Space
> Redemption Ark
> Absolution Gap
>
> Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
> plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
> some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
> anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
>
> --
> Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
Thanks that helps greatly.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:25:26 -0700
author: ChrisC
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 11:06 am, ChrisC wrote:
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
Reading series in the order they were written is always the best
option, and in this case, along with the novels, there are also many
short stories that are crucial to the understanding of many plot
elements from the novels. I would suggest getting hold of the story
collection _Galactic North_. It spans the entire history of Renolds'
Revelation Space universe and then some - and many details you
encounter in his novels may seem unexplained unless you read the short
stories first (at least those that were written before the novels).
This is from experience - I made the mistake of not reading the short
stories (well, they were not yet collected in book form then) before I
went on to Redemption Ark and Absolution Gap and I'm pretty certain my
enjoyment of them was hampered.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:03:18 -0700
author: Michael Grosberg
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
"ChrisC" wrote in message
news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
>
Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
what the publisher releases).
-- Ken from Chicago
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:44:20 -0500
author: Ken from Chicago
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
Chicago declared:
> "ChrisC" wrote in message
> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>> order?
>>
> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
> what the publisher releases).
>
But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
first and much better written.
--
Sean O'Hara <http://diogenes-sinope.blogspot.com>
It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them.
-Caron de Beaumarchais
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400
author: Sean O'Hara
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400, Sean O'Hara
wrote:
>In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
>Chicago declared:
>> "ChrisC" wrote in message
>> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>>> order?
>>>
>> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
>> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
>> what the publisher releases).
>>
>
>But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
>Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
>it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
>recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
>Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
>first and much better written.
As previously noted, the relevant short stories are collected in
"Galactic North" (also the name of the last story in the collection).
They are arranged in internal chronological order, and I think that it
would be extremely confusing to read them in any other order. As
Reynolds points out in his Afterword, the first to be written comes
half way through ("Dilation Sleep", which was published ten years
before any of the novels). He also says that "Revelation Space",
"Chasm City" and two of the short stories, including "Galactic North",
which is necessarily the last by internal logic, were being worked on
simultaneously, so "read in the order in which they were written" is
actually meaningless in this case.
I can't think of any example of an author constructing a "future"
history" by beginning at the beginning and going on consecutively to
the end (now there's a challenge!). Even Asimov reversed the order of
two stories for book publication, and wrote the first section last (I
ignore the late potboilers).
--
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"
date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:04:06 +0100
author: Don Aitken
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In article ,
ChrisC wrote:
>What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>order?
The only ones that form a series proper are:
Revelation Space
Redemption Ark
Absolution Gap
Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
--
Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:07:06 +0000 (UTC)
author: (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 1:07 pm, lei...@pvv.ntnu.no (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y) wrote:
> In article ,
>
> ChrisC wrote:
> >What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> >started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> >order?
>
> The only ones that form a series proper are:
>
> Revelation Space
> Redemption Ark
> Absolution Gap
>
> Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
> plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
> some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
> anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
>
> --
> Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
Thanks that helps greatly.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:25:26 -0700
author: ChrisC
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 11:06 am, ChrisC wrote:
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
Reading series in the order they were written is always the best
option, and in this case, along with the novels, there are also many
short stories that are crucial to the understanding of many plot
elements from the novels. I would suggest getting hold of the story
collection _Galactic North_. It spans the entire history of Renolds'
Revelation Space universe and then some - and many details you
encounter in his novels may seem unexplained unless you read the short
stories first (at least those that were written before the novels).
This is from experience - I made the mistake of not reading the short
stories (well, they were not yet collected in book form then) before I
went on to Redemption Ark and Absolution Gap and I'm pretty certain my
enjoyment of them was hampered.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:03:18 -0700
author: Michael Grosberg
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
"ChrisC" wrote in message
news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
>
Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
what the publisher releases).
-- Ken from Chicago
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:44:20 -0500
author: Ken from Chicago
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
Chicago declared:
> "ChrisC" wrote in message
> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>> order?
>>
> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
> what the publisher releases).
>
But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
first and much better written.
--
Sean O'Hara <http://diogenes-sinope.blogspot.com>
It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them.
-Caron de Beaumarchais
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400
author: Sean O'Hara
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400, Sean O'Hara
wrote:
>In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
>Chicago declared:
>> "ChrisC" wrote in message
>> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>>> order?
>>>
>> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
>> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
>> what the publisher releases).
>>
>
>But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
>Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
>it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
>recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
>Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
>first and much better written.
As previously noted, the relevant short stories are collected in
"Galactic North" (also the name of the last story in the collection).
They are arranged in internal chronological order, and I think that it
would be extremely confusing to read them in any other order. As
Reynolds points out in his Afterword, the first to be written comes
half way through ("Dilation Sleep", which was published ten years
before any of the novels). He also says that "Revelation Space",
"Chasm City" and two of the short stories, including "Galactic North",
which is necessarily the last by internal logic, were being worked on
simultaneously, so "read in the order in which they were written" is
actually meaningless in this case.
I can't think of any example of an author constructing a "future"
history" by beginning at the beginning and going on consecutively to
the end (now there's a challenge!). Even Asimov reversed the order of
two stories for book publication, and wrote the first section last (I
ignore the late potboilers).
--
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"
date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:04:06 +0100
author: Don Aitken
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In article ,
ChrisC wrote:
>What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>order?
The only ones that form a series proper are:
Revelation Space
Redemption Ark
Absolution Gap
Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
--
Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:07:06 +0000 (UTC)
author: (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 1:07 pm, lei...@pvv.ntnu.no (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y) wrote:
> In article ,
>
> ChrisC wrote:
> >What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> >started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> >order?
>
> The only ones that form a series proper are:
>
> Revelation Space
> Redemption Ark
> Absolution Gap
>
> Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
> plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
> some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
> anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
>
> --
> Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
Thanks that helps greatly.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:25:26 -0700
author: ChrisC
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 11:06 am, ChrisC wrote:
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
Reading series in the order they were written is always the best
option, and in this case, along with the novels, there are also many
short stories that are crucial to the understanding of many plot
elements from the novels. I would suggest getting hold of the story
collection _Galactic North_. It spans the entire history of Renolds'
Revelation Space universe and then some - and many details you
encounter in his novels may seem unexplained unless you read the short
stories first (at least those that were written before the novels).
This is from experience - I made the mistake of not reading the short
stories (well, they were not yet collected in book form then) before I
went on to Redemption Ark and Absolution Gap and I'm pretty certain my
enjoyment of them was hampered.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:03:18 -0700
author: Michael Grosberg
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
"ChrisC" wrote in message
news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
>
Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
what the publisher releases).
-- Ken from Chicago
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:44:20 -0500
author: Ken from Chicago
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
Chicago declared:
> "ChrisC" wrote in message
> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>> order?
>>
> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
> what the publisher releases).
>
But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
first and much better written.
--
Sean O'Hara <http://diogenes-sinope.blogspot.com>
It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them.
-Caron de Beaumarchais
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400
author: Sean O'Hara
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400, Sean O'Hara
wrote:
>In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
>Chicago declared:
>> "ChrisC" wrote in message
>> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>>> order?
>>>
>> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
>> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
>> what the publisher releases).
>>
>
>But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
>Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
>it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
>recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
>Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
>first and much better written.
As previously noted, the relevant short stories are collected in
"Galactic North" (also the name of the last story in the collection).
They are arranged in internal chronological order, and I think that it
would be extremely confusing to read them in any other order. As
Reynolds points out in his Afterword, the first to be written comes
half way through ("Dilation Sleep", which was published ten years
before any of the novels). He also says that "Revelation Space",
"Chasm City" and two of the short stories, including "Galactic North",
which is necessarily the last by internal logic, were being worked on
simultaneously, so "read in the order in which they were written" is
actually meaningless in this case.
I can't think of any example of an author constructing a "future"
history" by beginning at the beginning and going on consecutively to
the end (now there's a challenge!). Even Asimov reversed the order of
two stories for book publication, and wrote the first section last (I
ignore the late potboilers).
--
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"
date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:04:06 +0100
author: Don Aitken
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In article ,
ChrisC wrote:
>What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>order?
The only ones that form a series proper are:
Revelation Space
Redemption Ark
Absolution Gap
Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
--
Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:07:06 +0000 (UTC)
author: (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 1:07 pm, lei...@pvv.ntnu.no (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y) wrote:
> In article ,
>
> ChrisC wrote:
> >What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> >started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> >order?
>
> The only ones that form a series proper are:
>
> Revelation Space
> Redemption Ark
> Absolution Gap
>
> Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
> plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
> some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
> anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
>
> --
> Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
Thanks that helps greatly.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:25:26 -0700
author: ChrisC
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 11:06 am, ChrisC wrote:
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
Reading series in the order they were written is always the best
option, and in this case, along with the novels, there are also many
short stories that are crucial to the understanding of many plot
elements from the novels. I would suggest getting hold of the story
collection _Galactic North_. It spans the entire history of Renolds'
Revelation Space universe and then some - and many details you
encounter in his novels may seem unexplained unless you read the short
stories first (at least those that were written before the novels).
This is from experience - I made the mistake of not reading the short
stories (well, they were not yet collected in book form then) before I
went on to Redemption Ark and Absolution Gap and I'm pretty certain my
enjoyment of them was hampered.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:03:18 -0700
author: Michael Grosberg
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
"ChrisC" wrote in message
news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
>
Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
what the publisher releases).
-- Ken from Chicago
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:44:20 -0500
author: Ken from Chicago
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
Chicago declared:
> "ChrisC" wrote in message
> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>> order?
>>
> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
> what the publisher releases).
>
But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
first and much better written.
--
Sean O'Hara <http://diogenes-sinope.blogspot.com>
It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them.
-Caron de Beaumarchais
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400
author: Sean O'Hara
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400, Sean O'Hara
wrote:
>In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
>Chicago declared:
>> "ChrisC" wrote in message
>> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>>> order?
>>>
>> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
>> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
>> what the publisher releases).
>>
>
>But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
>Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
>it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
>recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
>Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
>first and much better written.
As previously noted, the relevant short stories are collected in
"Galactic North" (also the name of the last story in the collection).
They are arranged in internal chronological order, and I think that it
would be extremely confusing to read them in any other order. As
Reynolds points out in his Afterword, the first to be written comes
half way through ("Dilation Sleep", which was published ten years
before any of the novels). He also says that "Revelation Space",
"Chasm City" and two of the short stories, including "Galactic North",
which is necessarily the last by internal logic, were being worked on
simultaneously, so "read in the order in which they were written" is
actually meaningless in this case.
I can't think of any example of an author constructing a "future"
history" by beginning at the beginning and going on consecutively to
the end (now there's a challenge!). Even Asimov reversed the order of
two stories for book publication, and wrote the first section last (I
ignore the late potboilers).
--
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"
date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:04:06 +0100
author: Don Aitken
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In article ,
ChrisC wrote:
>What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>order?
The only ones that form a series proper are:
Revelation Space
Redemption Ark
Absolution Gap
Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
--
Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:07:06 +0000 (UTC)
author: (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 1:07 pm, lei...@pvv.ntnu.no (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y) wrote:
> In article ,
>
> ChrisC wrote:
> >What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> >started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> >order?
>
> The only ones that form a series proper are:
>
> Revelation Space
> Redemption Ark
> Absolution Gap
>
> Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
> plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
> some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
> anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
>
> --
> Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
Thanks that helps greatly.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:25:26 -0700
author: ChrisC
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 11:06 am, ChrisC wrote:
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
Reading series in the order they were written is always the best
option, and in this case, along with the novels, there are also many
short stories that are crucial to the understanding of many plot
elements from the novels. I would suggest getting hold of the story
collection _Galactic North_. It spans the entire history of Renolds'
Revelation Space universe and then some - and many details you
encounter in his novels may seem unexplained unless you read the short
stories first (at least those that were written before the novels).
This is from experience - I made the mistake of not reading the short
stories (well, they were not yet collected in book form then) before I
went on to Redemption Ark and Absolution Gap and I'm pretty certain my
enjoyment of them was hampered.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:03:18 -0700
author: Michael Grosberg
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
"ChrisC" wrote in message
news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
>
Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
what the publisher releases).
-- Ken from Chicago
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:44:20 -0500
author: Ken from Chicago
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
Chicago declared:
> "ChrisC" wrote in message
> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>> order?
>>
> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
> what the publisher releases).
>
But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
first and much better written.
--
Sean O'Hara <http://diogenes-sinope.blogspot.com>
It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them.
-Caron de Beaumarchais
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400
author: Sean O'Hara
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400, Sean O'Hara
wrote:
>In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
>Chicago declared:
>> "ChrisC" wrote in message
>> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>>> order?
>>>
>> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
>> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
>> what the publisher releases).
>>
>
>But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
>Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
>it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
>recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
>Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
>first and much better written.
As previously noted, the relevant short stories are collected in
"Galactic North" (also the name of the last story in the collection).
They are arranged in internal chronological order, and I think that it
would be extremely confusing to read them in any other order. As
Reynolds points out in his Afterword, the first to be written comes
half way through ("Dilation Sleep", which was published ten years
before any of the novels). He also says that "Revelation Space",
"Chasm City" and two of the short stories, including "Galactic North",
which is necessarily the last by internal logic, were being worked on
simultaneously, so "read in the order in which they were written" is
actually meaningless in this case.
I can't think of any example of an author constructing a "future"
history" by beginning at the beginning and going on consecutively to
the end (now there's a challenge!). Even Asimov reversed the order of
two stories for book publication, and wrote the first section last (I
ignore the late potboilers).
--
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"
date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:04:06 +0100
author: Don Aitken
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In article ,
ChrisC wrote:
>What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>order?
The only ones that form a series proper are:
Revelation Space
Redemption Ark
Absolution Gap
Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
--
Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:07:06 +0000 (UTC)
author: (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 1:07 pm, lei...@pvv.ntnu.no (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y) wrote:
> In article ,
>
> ChrisC wrote:
> >What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> >started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> >order?
>
> The only ones that form a series proper are:
>
> Revelation Space
> Redemption Ark
> Absolution Gap
>
> Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
> plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
> some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
> anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
>
> --
> Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
Thanks that helps greatly.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:25:26 -0700
author: ChrisC
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 11:06 am, ChrisC wrote:
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
Reading series in the order they were written is always the best
option, and in this case, along with the novels, there are also many
short stories that are crucial to the understanding of many plot
elements from the novels. I would suggest getting hold of the story
collection _Galactic North_. It spans the entire history of Renolds'
Revelation Space universe and then some - and many details you
encounter in his novels may seem unexplained unless you read the short
stories first (at least those that were written before the novels).
This is from experience - I made the mistake of not reading the short
stories (well, they were not yet collected in book form then) before I
went on to Redemption Ark and Absolution Gap and I'm pretty certain my
enjoyment of them was hampered.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:03:18 -0700
author: Michael Grosberg
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
"ChrisC" wrote in message
news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
>
Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
what the publisher releases).
-- Ken from Chicago
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:44:20 -0500
author: Ken from Chicago
|
Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
Chicago declared:
> "ChrisC" wrote in message
> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>> order?
>>
> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
> what the publisher releases).
>
But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
first and much better written.
--
Sean O'Hara <http://diogenes-sinope.blogspot.com>
It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them.
-Caron de Beaumarchais
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400
author: Sean O'Hara
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400, Sean O'Hara
wrote:
>In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
>Chicago declared:
>> "ChrisC" wrote in message
>> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>>> order?
>>>
>> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
>> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
>> what the publisher releases).
>>
>
>But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
>Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
>it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
>recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
>Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
>first and much better written.
As previously noted, the relevant short stories are collected in
"Galactic North" (also the name of the last story in the collection).
They are arranged in internal chronological order, and I think that it
would be extremely confusing to read them in any other order. As
Reynolds points out in his Afterword, the first to be written comes
half way through ("Dilation Sleep", which was published ten years
before any of the novels). He also says that "Revelation Space",
"Chasm City" and two of the short stories, including "Galactic North",
which is necessarily the last by internal logic, were being worked on
simultaneously, so "read in the order in which they were written" is
actually meaningless in this case.
I can't think of any example of an author constructing a "future"
history" by beginning at the beginning and going on consecutively to
the end (now there's a challenge!). Even Asimov reversed the order of
two stories for book publication, and wrote the first section last (I
ignore the late potboilers).
--
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"
date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:04:06 +0100
author: Don Aitken
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In article ,
ChrisC wrote:
>What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>order?
The only ones that form a series proper are:
Revelation Space
Redemption Ark
Absolution Gap
Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
--
Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:07:06 +0000 (UTC)
author: (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 1:07 pm, lei...@pvv.ntnu.no (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y) wrote:
> In article ,
>
> ChrisC wrote:
> >What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> >started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> >order?
>
> The only ones that form a series proper are:
>
> Revelation Space
> Redemption Ark
> Absolution Gap
>
> Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
> plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
> some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
> anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
>
> --
> Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
Thanks that helps greatly.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:25:26 -0700
author: ChrisC
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 11:06 am, ChrisC wrote:
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
Reading series in the order they were written is always the best
option, and in this case, along with the novels, there are also many
short stories that are crucial to the understanding of many plot
elements from the novels. I would suggest getting hold of the story
collection _Galactic North_. It spans the entire history of Renolds'
Revelation Space universe and then some - and many details you
encounter in his novels may seem unexplained unless you read the short
stories first (at least those that were written before the novels).
This is from experience - I made the mistake of not reading the short
stories (well, they were not yet collected in book form then) before I
went on to Redemption Ark and Absolution Gap and I'm pretty certain my
enjoyment of them was hampered.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:03:18 -0700
author: Michael Grosberg
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
"ChrisC" wrote in message
news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
>
Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
what the publisher releases).
-- Ken from Chicago
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:44:20 -0500
author: Ken from Chicago
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
Chicago declared:
> "ChrisC" wrote in message
> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>> order?
>>
> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
> what the publisher releases).
>
But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
first and much better written.
--
Sean O'Hara <http://diogenes-sinope.blogspot.com>
It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them.
-Caron de Beaumarchais
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400
author: Sean O'Hara
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400, Sean O'Hara
wrote:
>In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
>Chicago declared:
>> "ChrisC" wrote in message
>> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>>> order?
>>>
>> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
>> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
>> what the publisher releases).
>>
>
>But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
>Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
>it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
>recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
>Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
>first and much better written.
As previously noted, the relevant short stories are collected in
"Galactic North" (also the name of the last story in the collection).
They are arranged in internal chronological order, and I think that it
would be extremely confusing to read them in any other order. As
Reynolds points out in his Afterword, the first to be written comes
half way through ("Dilation Sleep", which was published ten years
before any of the novels). He also says that "Revelation Space",
"Chasm City" and two of the short stories, including "Galactic North",
which is necessarily the last by internal logic, were being worked on
simultaneously, so "read in the order in which they were written" is
actually meaningless in this case.
I can't think of any example of an author constructing a "future"
history" by beginning at the beginning and going on consecutively to
the end (now there's a challenge!). Even Asimov reversed the order of
two stories for book publication, and wrote the first section last (I
ignore the late potboilers).
--
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"
date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:04:06 +0100
author: Don Aitken
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In article ,
ChrisC wrote:
>What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>order?
The only ones that form a series proper are:
Revelation Space
Redemption Ark
Absolution Gap
Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
--
Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:07:06 +0000 (UTC)
author: (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 1:07 pm, lei...@pvv.ntnu.no (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y) wrote:
> In article ,
>
> ChrisC wrote:
> >What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> >started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> >order?
>
> The only ones that form a series proper are:
>
> Revelation Space
> Redemption Ark
> Absolution Gap
>
> Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
> plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
> some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
> anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
>
> --
> Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
Thanks that helps greatly.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:25:26 -0700
author: ChrisC
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 11:06 am, ChrisC wrote:
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
Reading series in the order they were written is always the best
option, and in this case, along with the novels, there are also many
short stories that are crucial to the understanding of many plot
elements from the novels. I would suggest getting hold of the story
collection _Galactic North_. It spans the entire history of Renolds'
Revelation Space universe and then some - and many details you
encounter in his novels may seem unexplained unless you read the short
stories first (at least those that were written before the novels).
This is from experience - I made the mistake of not reading the short
stories (well, they were not yet collected in book form then) before I
went on to Redemption Ark and Absolution Gap and I'm pretty certain my
enjoyment of them was hampered.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:03:18 -0700
author: Michael Grosberg
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
"ChrisC" wrote in message
news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
>
Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
what the publisher releases).
-- Ken from Chicago
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:44:20 -0500
author: Ken from Chicago
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
Chicago declared:
> "ChrisC" wrote in message
> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>> order?
>>
> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
> what the publisher releases).
>
But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
first and much better written.
--
Sean O'Hara <http://diogenes-sinope.blogspot.com>
It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them.
-Caron de Beaumarchais
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400
author: Sean O'Hara
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400, Sean O'Hara
wrote:
>In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
>Chicago declared:
>> "ChrisC" wrote in message
>> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>>> order?
>>>
>> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
>> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
>> what the publisher releases).
>>
>
>But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
>Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
>it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
>recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
>Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
>first and much better written.
As previously noted, the relevant short stories are collected in
"Galactic North" (also the name of the last story in the collection).
They are arranged in internal chronological order, and I think that it
would be extremely confusing to read them in any other order. As
Reynolds points out in his Afterword, the first to be written comes
half way through ("Dilation Sleep", which was published ten years
before any of the novels). He also says that "Revelation Space",
"Chasm City" and two of the short stories, including "Galactic North",
which is necessarily the last by internal logic, were being worked on
simultaneously, so "read in the order in which they were written" is
actually meaningless in this case.
I can't think of any example of an author constructing a "future"
history" by beginning at the beginning and going on consecutively to
the end (now there's a challenge!). Even Asimov reversed the order of
two stories for book publication, and wrote the first section last (I
ignore the late potboilers).
--
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"
date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:04:06 +0100
author: Don Aitken
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In article ,
ChrisC wrote:
>What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>order?
The only ones that form a series proper are:
Revelation Space
Redemption Ark
Absolution Gap
Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
--
Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:07:06 +0000 (UTC)
author: (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 1:07 pm, lei...@pvv.ntnu.no (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y) wrote:
> In article ,
>
> ChrisC wrote:
> >What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> >started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> >order?
>
> The only ones that form a series proper are:
>
> Revelation Space
> Redemption Ark
> Absolution Gap
>
> Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
> plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
> some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
> anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
>
> --
> Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
Thanks that helps greatly.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:25:26 -0700
author: ChrisC
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Aug 15, 11:06 am, ChrisC wrote:
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
Reading series in the order they were written is always the best
option, and in this case, along with the novels, there are also many
short stories that are crucial to the understanding of many plot
elements from the novels. I would suggest getting hold of the story
collection _Galactic North_. It spans the entire history of Renolds'
Revelation Space universe and then some - and many details you
encounter in his novels may seem unexplained unless you read the short
stories first (at least those that were written before the novels).
This is from experience - I made the mistake of not reading the short
stories (well, they were not yet collected in book form then) before I
went on to Redemption Ark and Absolution Gap and I'm pretty certain my
enjoyment of them was hampered.
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:03:18 -0700
author: Michael Grosberg
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
"ChrisC" wrote in message
news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
> order?
>
> Cheers.
>
Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
what the publisher releases).
-- Ken from Chicago
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:44:20 -0500
author: Ken from Chicago
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
Chicago declared:
> "ChrisC" wrote in message
> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>> order?
>>
> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
> what the publisher releases).
>
But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
first and much better written.
--
Sean O'Hara <http://diogenes-sinope.blogspot.com>
It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them.
-Caron de Beaumarchais
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400
author: Sean O'Hara
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:03 -0400, Sean O'Hara
wrote:
>In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful Ken from
>Chicago declared:
>> "ChrisC" wrote in message
>> news:1187165217.328400.115700@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>>> started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>>> order?
>>>
>> Always, always, always read in PUBLICATION order--unless the author says
>> otherwise (sometimes the author might have written in a different order than
>> what the publisher releases).
>>
>
>But that's not true in this case. The main trilogy of Revelation
>Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap should be read in order, but
>it's not so important with the other books in the universe. I'd
>recommend against choosing Revelation Space as an introduction to
>Reynolds, because it's a seriously flawed book. Chasm City is set
>first and much better written.
As previously noted, the relevant short stories are collected in
"Galactic North" (also the name of the last story in the collection).
They are arranged in internal chronological order, and I think that it
would be extremely confusing to read them in any other order. As
Reynolds points out in his Afterword, the first to be written comes
half way through ("Dilation Sleep", which was published ten years
before any of the novels). He also says that "Revelation Space",
"Chasm City" and two of the short stories, including "Galactic North",
which is necessarily the last by internal logic, were being worked on
simultaneously, so "read in the order in which they were written" is
actually meaningless in this case.
I can't think of any example of an author constructing a "future"
history" by beginning at the beginning and going on consecutively to
the end (now there's a challenge!). Even Asimov reversed the order of
two stories for book publication, and wrote the first section last (I
ignore the late potboilers).
--
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"
date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:04:06 +0100
author: Don Aitken
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Re: Alastair Reynolds? What order?
In article ,
ChrisC wrote:
>What order should one read his books if any order at all. I have
>started on Revelation Space. Can anyone provide a list on the books
>order?
The only ones that form a series proper are:
Revelation Space
Redemption Ark
Absolution Gap
Some of his other stuff (notably the novels _Chasm City_ and _The Prefect_,
plus a number of his short stories) take place in the same universe and
some even feature some of the same characters, but they work as standalones
anyway. _Century Rain_ and _Pushing Ice_ are completely unrelated novels.
--
Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:07:06 +0000 (UTC)
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