Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

On Jun 4, 3:30 pm, ChrisC  wrote:

>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I thought it started slowly, but overall liked it enough to
reread it, which is rare for me nowadays.

On the other hand, I liked  the first sequel, and parts of
the second, which I think puts me in a minority around
here.  Haven't reread either of those.

Basically I liked everything of Bears until "Darwin's
Radio".

William Hyde

ChrisC wrote:

> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
> 
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not
> sure?

What matters is whether YOU find it worth reading!  You're not
impressed so far?  Don't read any more.

-- 
Dan Goodman
"You, each of you, have some special wild cards.  Play with them.  
Find out what makes you different and better.  Because it is there, 
if only you can find it."  Vernor Vinge, _Rainbows End_
Journal http://dsgood.livejournal.com
Futures http://dangoodman.livejournal.com
Links http://del.icio.us/dsgood

William Hyde wrote:
> On Jun 4, 3:30 pm, ChrisC  wrote:
> 
>>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?
> 
> I thought it started slowly, but overall liked it enough to
> reread it, which is rare for me nowadays.
> 
> On the other hand, I liked  the first sequel, and parts of
> the second, which I think puts me in a minority around
> here.  Haven't reread either of those.
> 
> Basically I liked everything of Bears until "Darwin's
> Radio".
> 
> William Hyde
> 

I quite liked Darwin's Radio.  However, its sequel Darwin's Children is 
one of those that I quit reading because I lost interest partway through.


-- 
You see writers are like sewers ... what you get out depends a great 
deal on what you put in.
                -- J. Michael Straczynski

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:30:05 -0700, ChrisC 
wrote:

>Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Agreed

>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I didn't find it something I enjoyed.

"ChrisC"  wrote in message 
news:1180985405.353269.18100@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?
>

you could also have a look at Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny... one of my 
personal favourites

On Jun 4, 3:30?pm, ChrisC  wrote:
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>

      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
first read it, about 1961.    I found the social attitudes very 19th-
century.
                                Mark Owings

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:30:05 -0700, ChrisC 
wrote:
>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

When it gets going and the ideas start to roll out -- well, you'll
either still not be impressed or you will.

Can't really tell. I liked it. :/

// JJ

In article , ChrisC writes:
>Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Excellent book. I'd place it among the ten best SF novels of all time.

>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?

I found it so. At least, I found it an entertaining read. In fact, I've
reread it. It's not in the same class as tSMD, however.

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
This email is to be read by its intended recipient only. Any other party
reading is required by the EULA to send me $500.00.

In article , Otzchiim writes:
>On Jun 4, 3:30?pm, ChrisC  wrote:

>> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
>      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
>first read it, about 1961. I found the social attitudes very 19th-
>century.

I always thought that Bester was trying to portray them as resembling
those of the 18th century. Did you miss the info-dumps that portrayed
what caused the social attitudes to change in the ways that they did?

Just because a story portrays a society looking in some way like it did
at some time in the past doesn't mean the story itself is out-dated.

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
This email is to be read by its intended recipient only. Any other party
reading is required by the EULA to send me $500.00.

On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:51:16 -0700, Otzchiim  wrote:

>> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>>
>
>      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
>first read it, about 1961.    I found the social attitudes very 19th-
>century.

But not because Bester was 19th century.   He decided that those
attitudes fit his story best.   I think he was right.

"Nimrod"  wrote in news:mqb9i.28975$AD4.15140@newsfe34.ams:

>> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it 
>> and I'm
>> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?
>> Worth sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm
>> not sure? 

It is most definitely worth perservering with! 

All Bear's novels from that period (_Blood Music_, _Eon_, _Eternity_, 
_The Forge of God_) take a couple of hundred pages to get going, but when 
they do....well, I believe "mindblowing" would be an appropriate word. 

(_Anvil of Stars_ is my favourite, along with the Serpent Mage duology, 
and _Hardfought_ in the collection _The Venging_, but I am very fond of 
_Eon_ and so's most of my skiffy-reading friends...so do give it a go, it 
would be a shame never to discover what Bear's like when he's running at 
the speed of wonder!)

Cheers,

Spider J. 

(Jart at heart)

On Jun 5, 4:03 pm, "Nimrod"  wrote:
> "ChrisC"  wrote in message

> you could also have a look at Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny... one of my
> personal favourites


Mine too! :D

On Jun 5, 12:30 am, ChrisC  wrote:
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I liked his 'The Collected Stories of Greg Bear' - really good
collection - better than some of his novels, IMO.

- Hrishikesh

http://talonx.blogspot.com/

On Jun 4, 3:30 pm, ChrisC  wrote:

>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I thought it started slowly, but overall liked it enough to
reread it, which is rare for me nowadays.

On the other hand, I liked  the first sequel, and parts of
the second, which I think puts me in a minority around
here.  Haven't reread either of those.

Basically I liked everything of Bears until "Darwin's
Radio".

William Hyde

ChrisC wrote:

> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
> 
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not
> sure?

What matters is whether YOU find it worth reading!  You're not
impressed so far?  Don't read any more.

-- 
Dan Goodman
"You, each of you, have some special wild cards.  Play with them.  
Find out what makes you different and better.  Because it is there, 
if only you can find it."  Vernor Vinge, _Rainbows End_
Journal http://dsgood.livejournal.com
Futures http://dangoodman.livejournal.com
Links http://del.icio.us/dsgood

William Hyde wrote:
> On Jun 4, 3:30 pm, ChrisC  wrote:
> 
>>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?
> 
> I thought it started slowly, but overall liked it enough to
> reread it, which is rare for me nowadays.
> 
> On the other hand, I liked  the first sequel, and parts of
> the second, which I think puts me in a minority around
> here.  Haven't reread either of those.
> 
> Basically I liked everything of Bears until "Darwin's
> Radio".
> 
> William Hyde
> 

I quite liked Darwin's Radio.  However, its sequel Darwin's Children is 
one of those that I quit reading because I lost interest partway through.


-- 
You see writers are like sewers ... what you get out depends a great 
deal on what you put in.
                -- J. Michael Straczynski

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:30:05 -0700, ChrisC 
wrote:

>Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Agreed

>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I didn't find it something I enjoyed.

"ChrisC"  wrote in message 
news:1180985405.353269.18100@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?
>

you could also have a look at Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny... one of my 
personal favourites

On Jun 4, 3:30?pm, ChrisC  wrote:
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>

      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
first read it, about 1961.    I found the social attitudes very 19th-
century.
                                Mark Owings

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:30:05 -0700, ChrisC 
wrote:
>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

When it gets going and the ideas start to roll out -- well, you'll
either still not be impressed or you will.

Can't really tell. I liked it. :/

// JJ

In article , ChrisC writes:
>Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Excellent book. I'd place it among the ten best SF novels of all time.

>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?

I found it so. At least, I found it an entertaining read. In fact, I've
reread it. It's not in the same class as tSMD, however.

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
This email is to be read by its intended recipient only. Any other party
reading is required by the EULA to send me $500.00.

In article , Otzchiim writes:
>On Jun 4, 3:30?pm, ChrisC  wrote:

>> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
>      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
>first read it, about 1961. I found the social attitudes very 19th-
>century.

I always thought that Bester was trying to portray them as resembling
those of the 18th century. Did you miss the info-dumps that portrayed
what caused the social attitudes to change in the ways that they did?

Just because a story portrays a society looking in some way like it did
at some time in the past doesn't mean the story itself is out-dated.

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
This email is to be read by its intended recipient only. Any other party
reading is required by the EULA to send me $500.00.

On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:51:16 -0700, Otzchiim  wrote:

>> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>>
>
>      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
>first read it, about 1961.    I found the social attitudes very 19th-
>century.

But not because Bester was 19th century.   He decided that those
attitudes fit his story best.   I think he was right.

"Nimrod"  wrote in news:mqb9i.28975$AD4.15140@newsfe34.ams:

>> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it 
>> and I'm
>> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?
>> Worth sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm
>> not sure? 

It is most definitely worth perservering with! 

All Bear's novels from that period (_Blood Music_, _Eon_, _Eternity_, 
_The Forge of God_) take a couple of hundred pages to get going, but when 
they do....well, I believe "mindblowing" would be an appropriate word. 

(_Anvil of Stars_ is my favourite, along with the Serpent Mage duology, 
and _Hardfought_ in the collection _The Venging_, but I am very fond of 
_Eon_ and so's most of my skiffy-reading friends...so do give it a go, it 
would be a shame never to discover what Bear's like when he's running at 
the speed of wonder!)

Cheers,

Spider J. 

(Jart at heart)

On Jun 5, 4:03 pm, "Nimrod"  wrote:
> "ChrisC"  wrote in message

> you could also have a look at Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny... one of my
> personal favourites


Mine too! :D

On Jun 5, 12:30 am, ChrisC  wrote:
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I liked his 'The Collected Stories of Greg Bear' - really good
collection - better than some of his novels, IMO.

- Hrishikesh

http://talonx.blogspot.com/

On Jun 4, 3:30 pm, ChrisC  wrote:

>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I thought it started slowly, but overall liked it enough to
reread it, which is rare for me nowadays.

On the other hand, I liked  the first sequel, and parts of
the second, which I think puts me in a minority around
here.  Haven't reread either of those.

Basically I liked everything of Bears until "Darwin's
Radio".

William Hyde

ChrisC wrote:

> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
> 
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not
> sure?

What matters is whether YOU find it worth reading!  You're not
impressed so far?  Don't read any more.

-- 
Dan Goodman
"You, each of you, have some special wild cards.  Play with them.  
Find out what makes you different and better.  Because it is there, 
if only you can find it."  Vernor Vinge, _Rainbows End_
Journal http://dsgood.livejournal.com
Futures http://dangoodman.livejournal.com
Links http://del.icio.us/dsgood

William Hyde wrote:
> On Jun 4, 3:30 pm, ChrisC  wrote:
> 
>>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?
> 
> I thought it started slowly, but overall liked it enough to
> reread it, which is rare for me nowadays.
> 
> On the other hand, I liked  the first sequel, and parts of
> the second, which I think puts me in a minority around
> here.  Haven't reread either of those.
> 
> Basically I liked everything of Bears until "Darwin's
> Radio".
> 
> William Hyde
> 

I quite liked Darwin's Radio.  However, its sequel Darwin's Children is 
one of those that I quit reading because I lost interest partway through.


-- 
You see writers are like sewers ... what you get out depends a great 
deal on what you put in.
                -- J. Michael Straczynski

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:30:05 -0700, ChrisC 
wrote:

>Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Agreed

>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I didn't find it something I enjoyed.

"ChrisC"  wrote in message 
news:1180985405.353269.18100@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?
>

you could also have a look at Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny... one of my 
personal favourites

On Jun 4, 3:30?pm, ChrisC  wrote:
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>

      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
first read it, about 1961.    I found the social attitudes very 19th-
century.
                                Mark Owings

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:30:05 -0700, ChrisC 
wrote:
>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

When it gets going and the ideas start to roll out -- well, you'll
either still not be impressed or you will.

Can't really tell. I liked it. :/

// JJ

In article , ChrisC writes:
>Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Excellent book. I'd place it among the ten best SF novels of all time.

>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?

I found it so. At least, I found it an entertaining read. In fact, I've
reread it. It's not in the same class as tSMD, however.

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
This email is to be read by its intended recipient only. Any other party
reading is required by the EULA to send me $500.00.

In article , Otzchiim writes:
>On Jun 4, 3:30?pm, ChrisC  wrote:

>> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
>      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
>first read it, about 1961. I found the social attitudes very 19th-
>century.

I always thought that Bester was trying to portray them as resembling
those of the 18th century. Did you miss the info-dumps that portrayed
what caused the social attitudes to change in the ways that they did?

Just because a story portrays a society looking in some way like it did
at some time in the past doesn't mean the story itself is out-dated.

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
This email is to be read by its intended recipient only. Any other party
reading is required by the EULA to send me $500.00.

On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:51:16 -0700, Otzchiim  wrote:

>> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>>
>
>      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
>first read it, about 1961.    I found the social attitudes very 19th-
>century.

But not because Bester was 19th century.   He decided that those
attitudes fit his story best.   I think he was right.

"Nimrod"  wrote in news:mqb9i.28975$AD4.15140@newsfe34.ams:

>> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it 
>> and I'm
>> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?
>> Worth sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm
>> not sure? 

It is most definitely worth perservering with! 

All Bear's novels from that period (_Blood Music_, _Eon_, _Eternity_, 
_The Forge of God_) take a couple of hundred pages to get going, but when 
they do....well, I believe "mindblowing" would be an appropriate word. 

(_Anvil of Stars_ is my favourite, along with the Serpent Mage duology, 
and _Hardfought_ in the collection _The Venging_, but I am very fond of 
_Eon_ and so's most of my skiffy-reading friends...so do give it a go, it 
would be a shame never to discover what Bear's like when he's running at 
the speed of wonder!)

Cheers,

Spider J. 

(Jart at heart)

On Jun 5, 4:03 pm, "Nimrod"  wrote:
> "ChrisC"  wrote in message

> you could also have a look at Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny... one of my
> personal favourites


Mine too! :D

On Jun 5, 12:30 am, ChrisC  wrote:
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I liked his 'The Collected Stories of Greg Bear' - really good
collection - better than some of his novels, IMO.

- Hrishikesh

http://talonx.blogspot.com/

On Jun 4, 3:30 pm, ChrisC  wrote:

>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I thought it started slowly, but overall liked it enough to
reread it, which is rare for me nowadays.

On the other hand, I liked  the first sequel, and parts of
the second, which I think puts me in a minority around
here.  Haven't reread either of those.

Basically I liked everything of Bears until "Darwin's
Radio".

William Hyde

ChrisC wrote:

> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
> 
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not
> sure?

What matters is whether YOU find it worth reading!  You're not
impressed so far?  Don't read any more.

-- 
Dan Goodman
"You, each of you, have some special wild cards.  Play with them.  
Find out what makes you different and better.  Because it is there, 
if only you can find it."  Vernor Vinge, _Rainbows End_
Journal http://dsgood.livejournal.com
Futures http://dangoodman.livejournal.com
Links http://del.icio.us/dsgood

William Hyde wrote:
> On Jun 4, 3:30 pm, ChrisC  wrote:
> 
>>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?
> 
> I thought it started slowly, but overall liked it enough to
> reread it, which is rare for me nowadays.
> 
> On the other hand, I liked  the first sequel, and parts of
> the second, which I think puts me in a minority around
> here.  Haven't reread either of those.
> 
> Basically I liked everything of Bears until "Darwin's
> Radio".
> 
> William Hyde
> 

I quite liked Darwin's Radio.  However, its sequel Darwin's Children is 
one of those that I quit reading because I lost interest partway through.


-- 
You see writers are like sewers ... what you get out depends a great 
deal on what you put in.
                -- J. Michael Straczynski

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:30:05 -0700, ChrisC 
wrote:

>Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Agreed

>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I didn't find it something I enjoyed.

"ChrisC"  wrote in message 
news:1180985405.353269.18100@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?
>

you could also have a look at Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny... one of my 
personal favourites

On Jun 4, 3:30?pm, ChrisC  wrote:
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>

      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
first read it, about 1961.    I found the social attitudes very 19th-
century.
                                Mark Owings

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:30:05 -0700, ChrisC 
wrote:
>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

When it gets going and the ideas start to roll out -- well, you'll
either still not be impressed or you will.

Can't really tell. I liked it. :/

// JJ

In article , ChrisC writes:
>Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Excellent book. I'd place it among the ten best SF novels of all time.

>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?

I found it so. At least, I found it an entertaining read. In fact, I've
reread it. It's not in the same class as tSMD, however.

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
This email is to be read by its intended recipient only. Any other party
reading is required by the EULA to send me $500.00.

In article , Otzchiim writes:
>On Jun 4, 3:30?pm, ChrisC  wrote:

>> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
>      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
>first read it, about 1961. I found the social attitudes very 19th-
>century.

I always thought that Bester was trying to portray them as resembling
those of the 18th century. Did you miss the info-dumps that portrayed
what caused the social attitudes to change in the ways that they did?

Just because a story portrays a society looking in some way like it did
at some time in the past doesn't mean the story itself is out-dated.

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
This email is to be read by its intended recipient only. Any other party
reading is required by the EULA to send me $500.00.

On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:51:16 -0700, Otzchiim  wrote:

>> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>>
>
>      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
>first read it, about 1961.    I found the social attitudes very 19th-
>century.

But not because Bester was 19th century.   He decided that those
attitudes fit his story best.   I think he was right.

"Nimrod"  wrote in news:mqb9i.28975$AD4.15140@newsfe34.ams:

>> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it 
>> and I'm
>> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?
>> Worth sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm
>> not sure? 

It is most definitely worth perservering with! 

All Bear's novels from that period (_Blood Music_, _Eon_, _Eternity_, 
_The Forge of God_) take a couple of hundred pages to get going, but when 
they do....well, I believe "mindblowing" would be an appropriate word. 

(_Anvil of Stars_ is my favourite, along with the Serpent Mage duology, 
and _Hardfought_ in the collection _The Venging_, but I am very fond of 
_Eon_ and so's most of my skiffy-reading friends...so do give it a go, it 
would be a shame never to discover what Bear's like when he's running at 
the speed of wonder!)

Cheers,

Spider J. 

(Jart at heart)

On Jun 5, 4:03 pm, "Nimrod"  wrote:
> "ChrisC"  wrote in message

> you could also have a look at Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny... one of my
> personal favourites


Mine too! :D

On Jun 5, 12:30 am, ChrisC  wrote:
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I liked his 'The Collected Stories of Greg Bear' - really good
collection - better than some of his novels, IMO.

- Hrishikesh

http://talonx.blogspot.com/

On Jun 4, 3:30 pm, ChrisC  wrote:

>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I thought it started slowly, but overall liked it enough to
reread it, which is rare for me nowadays.

On the other hand, I liked  the first sequel, and parts of
the second, which I think puts me in a minority around
here.  Haven't reread either of those.

Basically I liked everything of Bears until "Darwin's
Radio".

William Hyde

ChrisC wrote:

> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
> 
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not
> sure?

What matters is whether YOU find it worth reading!  You're not
impressed so far?  Don't read any more.

-- 
Dan Goodman
"You, each of you, have some special wild cards.  Play with them.  
Find out what makes you different and better.  Because it is there, 
if only you can find it."  Vernor Vinge, _Rainbows End_
Journal http://dsgood.livejournal.com
Futures http://dangoodman.livejournal.com
Links http://del.icio.us/dsgood

William Hyde wrote:
> On Jun 4, 3:30 pm, ChrisC  wrote:
> 
>>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?
> 
> I thought it started slowly, but overall liked it enough to
> reread it, which is rare for me nowadays.
> 
> On the other hand, I liked  the first sequel, and parts of
> the second, which I think puts me in a minority around
> here.  Haven't reread either of those.
> 
> Basically I liked everything of Bears until "Darwin's
> Radio".
> 
> William Hyde
> 

I quite liked Darwin's Radio.  However, its sequel Darwin's Children is 
one of those that I quit reading because I lost interest partway through.


-- 
You see writers are like sewers ... what you get out depends a great 
deal on what you put in.
                -- J. Michael Straczynski

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:30:05 -0700, ChrisC 
wrote:

>Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Agreed

>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I didn't find it something I enjoyed.

"ChrisC"  wrote in message 
news:1180985405.353269.18100@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?
>

you could also have a look at Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny... one of my 
personal favourites

On Jun 4, 3:30?pm, ChrisC  wrote:
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>

      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
first read it, about 1961.    I found the social attitudes very 19th-
century.
                                Mark Owings

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:30:05 -0700, ChrisC 
wrote:
>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

When it gets going and the ideas start to roll out -- well, you'll
either still not be impressed or you will.

Can't really tell. I liked it. :/

// JJ

In article , ChrisC writes:
>Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Excellent book. I'd place it among the ten best SF novels of all time.

>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?

I found it so. At least, I found it an entertaining read. In fact, I've
reread it. It's not in the same class as tSMD, however.

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
This email is to be read by its intended recipient only. Any other party
reading is required by the EULA to send me $500.00.

In article , Otzchiim writes:
>On Jun 4, 3:30?pm, ChrisC  wrote:

>> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
>      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
>first read it, about 1961. I found the social attitudes very 19th-
>century.

I always thought that Bester was trying to portray them as resembling
those of the 18th century. Did you miss the info-dumps that portrayed
what caused the social attitudes to change in the ways that they did?

Just because a story portrays a society looking in some way like it did
at some time in the past doesn't mean the story itself is out-dated.

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
This email is to be read by its intended recipient only. Any other party
reading is required by the EULA to send me $500.00.

On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:51:16 -0700, Otzchiim  wrote:

>> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>>
>
>      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
>first read it, about 1961.    I found the social attitudes very 19th-
>century.

But not because Bester was 19th century.   He decided that those
attitudes fit his story best.   I think he was right.

"Nimrod"  wrote in news:mqb9i.28975$AD4.15140@newsfe34.ams:

>> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it 
>> and I'm
>> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?
>> Worth sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm
>> not sure? 

It is most definitely worth perservering with! 

All Bear's novels from that period (_Blood Music_, _Eon_, _Eternity_, 
_The Forge of God_) take a couple of hundred pages to get going, but when 
they do....well, I believe "mindblowing" would be an appropriate word. 

(_Anvil of Stars_ is my favourite, along with the Serpent Mage duology, 
and _Hardfought_ in the collection _The Venging_, but I am very fond of 
_Eon_ and so's most of my skiffy-reading friends...so do give it a go, it 
would be a shame never to discover what Bear's like when he's running at 
the speed of wonder!)

Cheers,

Spider J. 

(Jart at heart)

On Jun 5, 4:03 pm, "Nimrod"  wrote:
> "ChrisC"  wrote in message

> you could also have a look at Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny... one of my
> personal favourites


Mine too! :D

On Jun 5, 12:30 am, ChrisC  wrote:
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I liked his 'The Collected Stories of Greg Bear' - really good
collection - better than some of his novels, IMO.

- Hrishikesh

http://talonx.blogspot.com/

On Jun 4, 3:30 pm, ChrisC  wrote:

>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I thought it started slowly, but overall liked it enough to
reread it, which is rare for me nowadays.

On the other hand, I liked  the first sequel, and parts of
the second, which I think puts me in a minority around
here.  Haven't reread either of those.

Basically I liked everything of Bears until "Darwin's
Radio".

William Hyde

ChrisC wrote:

> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
> 
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not
> sure?

What matters is whether YOU find it worth reading!  You're not
impressed so far?  Don't read any more.

-- 
Dan Goodman
"You, each of you, have some special wild cards.  Play with them.  
Find out what makes you different and better.  Because it is there, 
if only you can find it."  Vernor Vinge, _Rainbows End_
Journal http://dsgood.livejournal.com
Futures http://dangoodman.livejournal.com
Links http://del.icio.us/dsgood

William Hyde wrote:
> On Jun 4, 3:30 pm, ChrisC  wrote:
> 
>>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?
> 
> I thought it started slowly, but overall liked it enough to
> reread it, which is rare for me nowadays.
> 
> On the other hand, I liked  the first sequel, and parts of
> the second, which I think puts me in a minority around
> here.  Haven't reread either of those.
> 
> Basically I liked everything of Bears until "Darwin's
> Radio".
> 
> William Hyde
> 

I quite liked Darwin's Radio.  However, its sequel Darwin's Children is 
one of those that I quit reading because I lost interest partway through.


-- 
You see writers are like sewers ... what you get out depends a great 
deal on what you put in.
                -- J. Michael Straczynski

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:30:05 -0700, ChrisC 
wrote:

>Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Agreed

>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I didn't find it something I enjoyed.

"ChrisC"  wrote in message 
news:1180985405.353269.18100@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?
>

you could also have a look at Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny... one of my 
personal favourites

On Jun 4, 3:30?pm, ChrisC  wrote:
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>

      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
first read it, about 1961.    I found the social attitudes very 19th-
century.
                                Mark Owings

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:30:05 -0700, ChrisC 
wrote:
>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

When it gets going and the ideas start to roll out -- well, you'll
either still not be impressed or you will.

Can't really tell. I liked it. :/

// JJ

In article , ChrisC writes:
>Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Excellent book. I'd place it among the ten best SF novels of all time.

>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?

I found it so. At least, I found it an entertaining read. In fact, I've
reread it. It's not in the same class as tSMD, however.

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
This email is to be read by its intended recipient only. Any other party
reading is required by the EULA to send me $500.00.

In article , Otzchiim writes:
>On Jun 4, 3:30?pm, ChrisC  wrote:

>> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
>      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
>first read it, about 1961. I found the social attitudes very 19th-
>century.

I always thought that Bester was trying to portray them as resembling
those of the 18th century. Did you miss the info-dumps that portrayed
what caused the social attitudes to change in the ways that they did?

Just because a story portrays a society looking in some way like it did
at some time in the past doesn't mean the story itself is out-dated.

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
This email is to be read by its intended recipient only. Any other party
reading is required by the EULA to send me $500.00.

On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:51:16 -0700, Otzchiim  wrote:

>> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>>
>
>      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
>first read it, about 1961.    I found the social attitudes very 19th-
>century.

But not because Bester was 19th century.   He decided that those
attitudes fit his story best.   I think he was right.

"Nimrod"  wrote in news:mqb9i.28975$AD4.15140@newsfe34.ams:

>> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it 
>> and I'm
>> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?
>> Worth sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm
>> not sure? 

It is most definitely worth perservering with! 

All Bear's novels from that period (_Blood Music_, _Eon_, _Eternity_, 
_The Forge of God_) take a couple of hundred pages to get going, but when 
they do....well, I believe "mindblowing" would be an appropriate word. 

(_Anvil of Stars_ is my favourite, along with the Serpent Mage duology, 
and _Hardfought_ in the collection _The Venging_, but I am very fond of 
_Eon_ and so's most of my skiffy-reading friends...so do give it a go, it 
would be a shame never to discover what Bear's like when he's running at 
the speed of wonder!)

Cheers,

Spider J. 

(Jart at heart)

On Jun 5, 4:03 pm, "Nimrod"  wrote:
> "ChrisC"  wrote in message

> you could also have a look at Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny... one of my
> personal favourites


Mine too! :D

On Jun 5, 12:30 am, ChrisC  wrote:
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I liked his 'The Collected Stories of Greg Bear' - really good
collection - better than some of his novels, IMO.

- Hrishikesh

http://talonx.blogspot.com/

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:30:05 -0700, ChrisC 
wrote:

>Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Agreed

>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I didn't find it something I enjoyed.

"ChrisC"  wrote in message 
news:1180985405.353269.18100@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?
>

you could also have a look at Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny... one of my 
personal favourites

On Jun 4, 3:30?pm, ChrisC  wrote:
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>

      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
first read it, about 1961.    I found the social attitudes very 19th-
century.
                                Mark Owings

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:30:05 -0700, ChrisC 
wrote:
>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

When it gets going and the ideas start to roll out -- well, you'll
either still not be impressed or you will.

Can't really tell. I liked it. :/

// JJ

In article , ChrisC writes:
>Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Excellent book. I'd place it among the ten best SF novels of all time.

>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?

I found it so. At least, I found it an entertaining read. In fact, I've
reread it. It's not in the same class as tSMD, however.

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
This email is to be read by its intended recipient only. Any other party
reading is required by the EULA to send me $500.00.

In article , Otzchiim writes:
>On Jun 4, 3:30?pm, ChrisC  wrote:

>> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
>      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
>first read it, about 1961. I found the social attitudes very 19th-
>century.

I always thought that Bester was trying to portray them as resembling
those of the 18th century. Did you miss the info-dumps that portrayed
what caused the social attitudes to change in the ways that they did?

Just because a story portrays a society looking in some way like it did
at some time in the past doesn't mean the story itself is out-dated.

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
This email is to be read by its intended recipient only. Any other party
reading is required by the EULA to send me $500.00.

On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:51:16 -0700, Otzchiim  wrote:

>> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>>
>
>      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
>first read it, about 1961.    I found the social attitudes very 19th-
>century.

But not because Bester was 19th century.   He decided that those
attitudes fit his story best.   I think he was right.

"Nimrod"  wrote in news:mqb9i.28975$AD4.15140@newsfe34.ams:

>> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it 
>> and I'm
>> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?
>> Worth sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm
>> not sure? 

It is most definitely worth perservering with! 

All Bear's novels from that period (_Blood Music_, _Eon_, _Eternity_, 
_The Forge of God_) take a couple of hundred pages to get going, but when 
they do....well, I believe "mindblowing" would be an appropriate word. 

(_Anvil of Stars_ is my favourite, along with the Serpent Mage duology, 
and _Hardfought_ in the collection _The Venging_, but I am very fond of 
_Eon_ and so's most of my skiffy-reading friends...so do give it a go, it 
would be a shame never to discover what Bear's like when he's running at 
the speed of wonder!)

Cheers,

Spider J. 

(Jart at heart)

On Jun 5, 4:03 pm, "Nimrod"  wrote:
> "ChrisC"  wrote in message

> you could also have a look at Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny... one of my
> personal favourites


Mine too! :D

On Jun 5, 12:30 am, ChrisC  wrote:
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I liked his 'The Collected Stories of Greg Bear' - really good
collection - better than some of his novels, IMO.

- Hrishikesh

http://talonx.blogspot.com/

On Jun 4, 3:30?pm, ChrisC  wrote:
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>

      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
first read it, about 1961.    I found the social attitudes very 19th-
century.
                                Mark Owings

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:30:05 -0700, ChrisC 
wrote:
>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
>sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

When it gets going and the ideas start to roll out -- well, you'll
either still not be impressed or you will.

Can't really tell. I liked it. :/

// JJ

In article , ChrisC writes:
>Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Excellent book. I'd place it among the ten best SF novels of all time.

>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?

I found it so. At least, I found it an entertaining read. In fact, I've
reread it. It's not in the same class as tSMD, however.

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
This email is to be read by its intended recipient only. Any other party
reading is required by the EULA to send me $500.00.

In article , Otzchiim writes:
>On Jun 4, 3:30?pm, ChrisC  wrote:

>> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
>      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
>first read it, about 1961. I found the social attitudes very 19th-
>century.

I always thought that Bester was trying to portray them as resembling
those of the 18th century. Did you miss the info-dumps that portrayed
what caused the social attitudes to change in the ways that they did?

Just because a story portrays a society looking in some way like it did
at some time in the past doesn't mean the story itself is out-dated.

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On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:51:16 -0700, Otzchiim  wrote:

>> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>>
>
>      I, on the other hand, thought it many years out of date when I
>first read it, about 1961.    I found the social attitudes very 19th-
>century.

But not because Bester was 19th century.   He decided that those
attitudes fit his story best.   I think he was right.

"Nimrod"  wrote in news:mqb9i.28975$AD4.15140@newsfe34.ams:

>> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it 
>> and I'm
>> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?
>> Worth sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm
>> not sure? 

It is most definitely worth perservering with! 

All Bear's novels from that period (_Blood Music_, _Eon_, _Eternity_, 
_The Forge of God_) take a couple of hundred pages to get going, but when 
they do....well, I believe "mindblowing" would be an appropriate word. 

(_Anvil of Stars_ is my favourite, along with the Serpent Mage duology, 
and _Hardfought_ in the collection _The Venging_, but I am very fond of 
_Eon_ and so's most of my skiffy-reading friends...so do give it a go, it 
would be a shame never to discover what Bear's like when he's running at 
the speed of wonder!)

Cheers,

Spider J. 

(Jart at heart)

On Jun 5, 4:03 pm, "Nimrod"  wrote:
> "ChrisC"  wrote in message

> you could also have a look at Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny... one of my
> personal favourites


Mine too! :D

On Jun 5, 12:30 am, ChrisC  wrote:
> Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
> believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.
>
> Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
> only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book? Worth
> sticking out. There are so many positive views on Amazon, I'm not sure?

I liked his 'The Collected Stories of Greg Bear' - really good
collection - better than some of his novels, IMO.

- Hrishikesh

http://talonx.blogspot.com/

In article , ChrisC writes:
>Just finished The Stars My Destination By Alfred Bester. I cannot
>believe that was written in the 50's. It so not dated.

Excellent book. I'd place it among the ten best SF novels of all time.

>Anyway I've started Eon by Greg Bear and everyone praises it and I'm
>only 50 pages in and not to impressed so far. Is it a good book?

I found it so. At least, I found it an entertaining read. In fact, I've
reread it. It's not in the same class as tSMD, however.

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