Hi All

I have been lurking around here for a while now and I am looking for some 
advice about my DD. She is 2 years old and her front part of her bottom is 
red (even inside) and she is always rubbing herself.
She has been toilet trained for a few months now and she wipes herself. For 
the past week she has been rubbing herself a lot, grabbing anything that she 
can use as a horse (if you know what I mean) When I checked her she was very 
red so I started putting Sudacrem on the really red parts but wasn't helping 
so I bought Conotrane cream from the chemist. This has helped a little but 
yesterday morning when she woke her bedtime nappy had green marks on it and 
after her bath some green stuff came out of her. Everytime she goes to the 
toilet I am putting more of this cream on and I am having to change her 
underwear regularly as they get some of this green stuff on them.
I was wondering if anyone has every had this experience before.

Thanks

Tracey
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Mum of Chloe, Born 11/11/2003

"Mark & Tracey" <us@stewartonDOTorg> wrote in message 
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> Hi All
>
> I have been lurking around here for a while now and I am looking for some 
> advice about my DD. She is 2 years old and her front part of her bottom is 
> red (even inside) and she is always rubbing herself.
> She has been toilet trained for a few months now and she wipes herself. 
> For the past week she has been rubbing herself a lot, grabbing anything 
> that she can use as a horse (if you know what I mean) When I checked her 
> she was very red so I started putting Sudacrem on the really red parts but 
> wasn't helping so I bought Conotrane cream from the chemist. This has 
> helped a little but yesterday morning when she woke her bedtime nappy had 
> green marks on it and after her bath some green stuff came out of her. 
> Everytime she goes to the toilet I am putting more of this cream on and I 
> am having to change her underwear regularly as they get some of this green 
> stuff on them.
> I was wondering if anyone has every had this experience before.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tracey
> -- 
>
> Mum of Chloe, Born 11/11/2003
>

I'm no expert, but an itchy bum can mean worms - apparently its very common 
for kids under 5 to get them and is easily treatable.
Also, I'm not sure if, by 'green stuff' you meant the cream is green or 
what, but it sounds like it could possibly be an infection (the green stuff 
being pus). Is it smelly at all? If I were you I'd get a doctor's opinion on 
it as soon as poss :)



Kat

"Squeakywee"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Mark & Tracey" <us@stewartonDOTorg> wrote in message 
> news:440083c1$0$3614$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
>> Hi All
>>
>> I have been lurking around here for a while now and I am looking for some 
>> advice about my DD. She is 2 years old and her front part of her bottom 
>> is red (even inside) and she is always rubbing herself.
>> She has been toilet trained for a few months now and she wipes herself. 
>> For the past week she has been rubbing herself a lot, grabbing anything 
>> that she can use as a horse (if you know what I mean) When I checked her 
>> she was very red so I started putting Sudacrem on the really red parts 
>> but wasn't helping so I bought Conotrane cream from the chemist. This has 
>> helped a little but yesterday morning when she woke her bedtime nappy had 
>> green marks on it and after her bath some green stuff came out of her. 
>> Everytime she goes to the toilet I am putting more of this cream on and I 
>> am having to change her underwear regularly as they get some of this 
>> green stuff on them.
>> I was wondering if anyone has every had this experience before.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tracey
>> -- 
>>
>> Mum of Chloe, Born 11/11/2003
>>
>
> I'm no expert, but an itchy bum can mean worms - apparently its very 
> common for kids under 5 to get them and is easily treatable.
> Also, I'm not sure if, by 'green stuff' you meant the cream is green or 
> what, but it sounds like it could possibly be an infection (the green 
> stuff being pus). Is it smelly at all? If I were you I'd get a doctor's 
> opinion on it as soon as poss :)
>
>
>
> Kat
>

Hi

Sorry the cream is white so we thought the green stuff could be pus if she 
had an infection.
I don't think my DD would let the doctor see she only lets me see it at the 
moment.

Tracey

When you say "the front of her bottom" I'm assuming you mean her labia 
and/or vagina?  She could have a yeast infection.  You DO need to take her 
to the doctor and have it checked out.  The green stuff could be the white 
cream changed colors by her urine or other fluids, or another sign of an 
infection.  Either way, STOP trying to treat this yourself, and take her to 
the doctor.  You don't want to mess around with this.  Hugs.
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"Mark & Tracey" <us@stewartonDOTorg> wrote in message 
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> Hi All
>
> I have been lurking around here for a while now and I am looking for some 
> advice about my DD. She is 2 years old and her front part of her bottom is 
> red (even inside) and she is always rubbing herself.
> She has been toilet trained for a few months now and she wipes herself. 
> For the past week she has been rubbing herself a lot, grabbing anything 
> that she can use as a horse (if you know what I mean) When I checked her 
> she was very red so I started putting Sudacrem on the really red parts but 
> wasn't helping so I bought Conotrane cream from the chemist. This has 
> helped a little but yesterday morning when she woke her bedtime nappy had 
> green marks on it and after her bath some green stuff came out of her. 
> Everytime she goes to the toilet I am putting more of this cream on and I 
> am having to change her underwear regularly as they get some of this green 
> stuff on them.
> I was wondering if anyone has every had this experience before.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tracey
> -- 
>
> Mum of Chloe, Born 11/11/2003
>

"Mark & Tracey" <us@stewartonDOTorg> wrote in message 
news:440083c1$0$3614$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
> Hi All
>
> I have been lurking around here for a while now and I am looking for some 
> advice about my DD. She is 2 years old and her front part of her bottom is 
> red (even inside) and she is always rubbing herself.
> She has been toilet trained for a few months now and she wipes herself. 
> For the past week she has been rubbing herself a lot, grabbing anything 
> that she can use as a horse (if you know what I mean) When I checked her 
> she was very red so I started putting Sudacrem on the really red parts but 
> wasn't helping so I bought Conotrane cream from the chemist. This has 
> helped a little but yesterday morning when she woke her bedtime nappy had 
> green marks on it and after her bath some green stuff came out of her. 
> Everytime she goes to the toilet I am putting more of this cream on and I 
> am having to change her underwear regularly as they get some of this green 
> stuff on them.
> I was wondering if anyone has every had this experience before.
>
Not wishing to cause concern but my daughter had similar problems at that 
age  and has now been diagnosed with kidney problems.  and I took her to 
doctors as soo as I saw her discomfort.

Please listen to everyone else and get her properly treated and I hope it is 
merely Thrush or similar!!

why are people so slow to take a child to the doctors over such things?

Best wishes

Mark

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> "Squeakywee"  wrote in message 
> news:1140885991.40020.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...
>>
>> "Mark & Tracey" <us@stewartonDOTorg> wrote in message 
>> news:440083c1$0$3614$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> I have been lurking around here for a while now and I am looking for 
>>> some advice about my DD. She is 2 years old and her front part of her 
>>> bottom is red (even inside) and she is always rubbing herself.
>>> She has been toilet trained for a few months now and she wipes herself. 
>>> For the past week she has been rubbing herself a lot, grabbing anything 
>>> that she can use as a horse (if you know what I mean) When I checked her 
>>> she was very red so I started putting Sudacrem on the really red parts 
>>> but wasn't helping so I bought Conotrane cream from the chemist. This 
>>> has helped a little but yesterday morning when she woke her bedtime 
>>> nappy had green marks on it and after her bath some green stuff came out 
>>> of her. Everytime she goes to the toilet I am putting more of this cream 
>>> on and I am having to change her underwear regularly as they get some of 
>>> this green stuff on them.
>>> I was wondering if anyone has every had this experience before.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Tracey
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> Mum of Chloe, Born 11/11/2003
>>>
>>
>> I'm no expert, but an itchy bum can mean worms - apparently its very 
>> common for kids under 5 to get them and is easily treatable.
>> Also, I'm not sure if, by 'green stuff' you meant the cream is green or 
>> what, but it sounds like it could possibly be an infection (the green 
>> stuff being pus). Is it smelly at all? If I were you I'd get a doctor's 
>> opinion on it as soon as poss :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Kat
>>
>
> Hi
>
> Sorry the cream is white so we thought the green stuff could be pus if she 
> had an infection.
> I don't think my DD would let the doctor see she only lets me see it at 
> the moment.
>
> Tracey

As I said, I'm no expert but I'd get her to a doctor regardless of whether 
or not she likes it. Its something she doesn't really have a choice about, 
and it could be something very serious. Maybe you could explain to her that 
you think she's poorly and that the doctor could make her feel better and 
take the itch away - it might make her feel better about letting him see it. 
Perhaps even asking for a woman doctor would make her feel more comfortable.



Kat

Another suggestion...if she has only been potty trained a short time, I
don't think she should be wiping herself yet, especially for bowel
movements.  They just can't get themselves clean and that can cause
problems.

Ellen

"Ellen"  wrote in message 
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> Another suggestion...if she has only been potty trained a short time, I
> don't think she should be wiping herself yet, especially for bowel
> movements.  They just can't get themselves clean and that can cause
> problems.
>
> Ellen

Sorry I should have said, she has been potty trained for quite a few months 
(about 1yr 7 months) she doesnt wipe herself after bowel movements, the 
adults do that bit but she does wipe after a peepee, which she does really 
well. She uses the Kandoo wipes but she has used them before she started 
doing this, as we were wondering if it could be them.
All comments appreciated.
Tracey



Mum of Chloe, Born 11/11/2003

On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:02:36 -0000, "Mark & Tracey"
<us@stewartonDOTorg> wrote:

>
>"Ellen"  wrote in message 
>news:1140893687.794149.325040@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>> Another suggestion...if she has only been potty trained a short time, I
>> don't think she should be wiping herself yet, especially for bowel
>> movements.  They just can't get themselves clean and that can cause
>> problems.
>>
>> Ellen
>
>Sorry I should have said, she has been potty trained for quite a few months 
>(about 1yr 7 months) she doesnt wipe herself after bowel movements, the 
>adults do that bit but she does wipe after a peepee, which she does really 
>well. She uses the Kandoo wipes but she has used them before she started 
>doing this, as we were wondering if it could be them.
>All comments appreciated.
>Tracey
>
>

You could ring NHS direct for advice
http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/

0845 4647
They will tell you what your best course of action is. 
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mogga wrote:
> You could ring NHS direct for advice

You'll fossilise while you wait, or get so wound up by their
officious stupidity that you'll spontaneously combust.

Mark & Tracey wrote:
> I don't think my DD would let the doctor see she only lets me see it at the 
> moment.

Trace, get your terminology sorted out and try to be clinically
accurate about what the problem is. All God's chillun (including
the not-so-young) have "bits and pieces" (!). See the doctor, and
if your daughter is reluctant, she can sit on your knee, or "be
weighed", or any other sort of thing that you can think of to
smooth the way. Worth a go to satisfy your mind, relieve your
worries, and - if anything needs to be prescribed - fix the issue!

> You could ring NHS direct for advice
> http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/
>
> 0845 4647
> They will tell you what your best course of action is.
> -- 
> Get money off vouchers for everything
> http://www.moneyoffvouchers.co.uk

I gave them a call and they think it could be thrush, so I have to use 
canesten cream on her and see how she is with that.
I never thought of giving them a call I was waiting till Monday for the 
Doctors, so thanks for mentioning them.

We are not the type of parents to go to doctor, but personally this sounds 
unpleasant enough to make a trip!


"Mark & Tracey" <us@stewartonDOTorg> wrote in message 
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> Hi All
>
> I have been lurking around here for a while now and I am looking for some 
> advice about my DD. She is 2 years old and her front part of her bottom is 
> red (even inside) and she is always rubbing herself.
> She has been toilet trained for a few months now and she wipes herself. 
> For the past week she has been rubbing herself a lot, grabbing anything 
> that she can use as a horse (if you know what I mean) When I checked her 
> she was very red so I started putting Sudacrem on the really red parts but 
> wasn't helping so I bought Conotrane cream from the chemist. This has 
> helped a little but yesterday morning when she woke her bedtime nappy had 
> green marks on it and after her bath some green stuff came out of her. 
> Everytime she goes to the toilet I am putting more of this cream on and I 
> am having to change her underwear regularly as they get some of this green 
> stuff on them.
> I was wondering if anyone has every had this experience before.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tracey
> -- 
>
> Mum of Chloe, Born 11/11/2003
>

In message <4400d858$0$3614$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>, Mark & 
Tracey <us@stewartonDOTorg.?.invalid> writes
>
>> You could ring NHS direct for advice
>> http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/
>>
>> 0845 4647
>> They will tell you what your best course of action is.
>> --
>> Get money off vouchers for everything
>> http://www.moneyoffvouchers.co.uk
>
>I gave them a call and they think it could be thrush, so I have to use
>canesten cream on her and see how she is with that.
>I never thought of giving them a call I was waiting till Monday for the
>Doctors, so thanks for mentioning them.
>
>
There are various things that can be done to speed thrush on it's way 
out - eating live yoghurt works well for me, but you can get a 
homeopathic powder called acidophillus that is supposed to do the same 
thing, also cutting out complex sugars and scrupulous cleaning.  I know 
that nursing women get thrush sometimes and in recurrent cases cleaning 
bra's in vinegar is recommended.

It does sound very like thrush (I went through a phase of getting thrush 
just before my period, possibly due to hormones), especially the 
itching, and IME thrush is very treatable.  The yoghurt worked really 
quickly for me - HTH
-- 
Jenn
UK
Mum to L - 01/99, M 04/02 and J 05/04

Chris Bacon  wrote:

> mogga wrote:
> > You could ring NHS direct for advice
> 
> You'll fossilise while you wait, or get so wound up by their
> officious stupidity that you'll spontaneously combust.

We've called them several times, and they've always been quick to
answer, quick to call back and good with advice. But we don't read the
Daily Mail, so perhaps that has something to do with it.

-- 
Pd

PeterD wrote:

> Chris Bacon  wrote:
> 
>> mogga wrote:
>> > You could ring NHS direct for advice
>> 
>> You'll fossilise while you wait, or get so wound up by their
>> officious stupidity that you'll spontaneously combust.
> 
> We've called them several times, and they've always been quick to
> answer, quick to call back and good with advice. But we don't read the
> Daily Mail, so perhaps that has something to do with it.
> 

I've tried to deal with NHS direct on about 3 occasions. Whilst
the initial call may be answered quickly, it seems to take forever
for someone to call back - and then the advice wasn't very forthcoming.

Utterly useless "service" IME.

Luckily our local village comes under the Tonbridge out of hours GP service
where you call direct to the receptionist, and an actual doctor calls back
either within minutes or the hour depending on the severity of the problem.
This works, and it works well. Nearly as good as the old days when you could
call one of your own GPs at home on an "on call" basis, only without the
guilt :)

The only thing NHS Direct has is it is 24 hours - but if "it" got bad enough
to warrent calling them, rather than waiting till morning, I'd be taking
the affected to A&E instead.

Tim

PeterD wrote:
> Chris Bacon wrote:
>>mogga wrote:
>>>You could ring NHS direct for advice
>>You'll fossilise while you wait, or get so wound up by their
>>officious stupidity that you'll spontaneously combust.
> 
> We've called them several times, and they've always been quick to
> answer, quick to call back and good with advice. But we don't read the
> Daily Mail, so perhaps that has something to do with it.

I've no idea what comic you look at the pictures in, and I
do not care. I have had two goes at the NHS direct, both
when in need, and both with extremely poor results. I
recommend it to you. Happy suffering to you and yours.

"Lorenzo"  wrote in message 
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> We are not the type of parents to go to doctor, but personally this sounds 
> unpleasant enough to make a trip!
>
>

I have to ask......"the type of parents to go to the doctor".....what do you 
mean by this.

Puzzled.

So whats the update?

Assume you have by now taken Chloe to the doctors?

Think the majority were correct with Thrush, But it would be nice to know 
the end of this one?

Mark

Hi There

Thanks for everyone's advice. After calling NHS 24 on Saturday night I have 
been using canesten cream on her which has helped.  She is still rubbing a 
little but nothing like she was. She is also not as sore or as red as I am 
able to apply the cream without any problems.

Tracey

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Mum of Chloe, Born 11/11/2003