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date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:48:18 GMT,    group: uk.people.parents        back       
Bottom Wiping at Nursery   
Our DD will be 3 in November.  She has just become fully toilet trained and 
attends nursery for three days a week.

The problem is that when she is at nursery, she is just left to go to toilet 
on her own (there are little toilets and sinks to use).  She doesn't manage 
because we have never taught her to wipe her own bottom so she ends up in a 
mess for the rest of the day, and with a sore bottom athome time.

Obviously we are now teaching her, but does it sound unusual for them to 
expect her to manage everything herself?
date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:48:18 GMT   author:   Lorenzo

Re: Bottom Wiping at Nursery   
On Aug 18, 9:48 am, "Lorenzo"  wrote:
> Our DD will be 3 in November.  She has just become fully toilet trained and
> attends nursery for three days a week.
>
> The problem is that when she is at nursery, she is just left to go to toilet
> on her own (there are little toilets and sinks to use).  She doesn't manage
> because we have never taught her to wipe her own bottom so she ends up in a
> mess for the rest of the day, and with a sore bottom athome time.
>
> Obviously we are now teaching her, but does it sound unusual for them to
> expect her to manage everything herself?

Yes, this does sound surprising to me, at least it was not our
experience at all. Our son was offered help right until he left his
nursery at 4 1/2. The staff should be trained and have the necessary
qualifications so I would not hesitate to talk to the staff. When you
say she is left on her own is this something they have explicitly told
you or your daughter has said? What do the staff do if a child has an
accident?

They must help children who are toilet training, so it seems strange
that they would suddenly stop once the child is trained. It's not as
if one they are in nappies and the next in underwear and that's it, it
can be a long process.

Mary Ann
date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:44:20 -0700   author:   Mary Ann

Re: Bottom Wiping at Nursery   
On Aug 18, 9:48 am, "Lorenzo"  wrote:
> Our DD will be 3 in November.  She has just become fully toilet trained and
> attends nursery for three days a week.
>
> The problem is that when she is at nursery, she is just left to go to toilet
> on her own (there are little toilets and sinks to use).  She doesn't manage
> because we have never taught her to wipe her own bottom so she ends up in a
> mess for the rest of the day, and with a sore bottom athome time.
>
> Obviously we are now teaching her, but does it sound unusual for them to
> expect her to manage everything herself?

Yes, this does sound surprising to me, at least it was not our
experience at all. Our son was offered help right until he left his
nursery at 4 1/2. The staff should be trained and have the necessary
qualifications so I would not hesitate to talk to the staff. When you
say she is left on her own is this something they have explicitly told
you or your daughter has said? What do the staff do if a child has an
accident?

They must help children who are toilet training, so it seems strange
that they would suddenly stop once the child is trained. It's not as
if one they are in nappies and the next in underwear and that's it, it
can be a long process.

Mary Ann
date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:44:20 -0700   author:   Mary Ann

Re: Bottom Wiping at Nursery   
> Yes, this does sound surprising to me, at least it was not our
> experience at all. Our son was offered help right until he left his
> nursery at 4 1/2. The staff should be trained and have the necessary
> qualifications so I would not hesitate to talk to the staff. When you
> say she is left on her own is this something they have explicitly told
> you or your daughter has said? What do the staff do if a child has an
> accident?
>
> They must help children who are toilet training, so it seems strange
> that they would suddenly stop once the child is trained. It's not as
> if one they are in nappies and the next in underwear and that's it, it
> can be a long process.
>
> Mary Ann

Thanks, you have confirmed my thoughts so we will speak to them.

She has told us this herself (she is pretty reliable, and we are always 
careful never to "lead" her in questions we ask) but I have also seen other 
child going off to toilet by herself when collecting DD.  And the fact she 
has had messy pants afterwards pretty much confirms it.

It might be that our DD insists to them that she can do it herself, and 
tells them to go away.  We will remind them that she is not quite as capable 
as she herself thinks!

Thanks again.
date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:54:36 GMT   author:   Lorenzo

Re: Bottom Wiping at Nursery   
On Aug 18, 9:48 am, "Lorenzo"  wrote:
> Our DD will be 3 in November.  She has just become fully toilet trained and
> attends nursery for three days a week.
>
> The problem is that when she is at nursery, she is just left to go to toilet
> on her own (there are little toilets and sinks to use).  She doesn't manage
> because we have never taught her to wipe her own bottom so she ends up in a
> mess for the rest of the day, and with a sore bottom athome time.
>
> Obviously we are now teaching her, but does it sound unusual for them to
> expect her to manage everything herself?

Yes, this does sound surprising to me, at least it was not our
experience at all. Our son was offered help right until he left his
nursery at 4 1/2. The staff should be trained and have the necessary
qualifications so I would not hesitate to talk to the staff. When you
say she is left on her own is this something they have explicitly told
you or your daughter has said? What do the staff do if a child has an
accident?

They must help children who are toilet training, so it seems strange
that they would suddenly stop once the child is trained. It's not as
if one they are in nappies and the next in underwear and that's it, it
can be a long process.

Mary Ann
date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:44:20 -0700   author:   Mary Ann

Re: Bottom Wiping at Nursery   
> Yes, this does sound surprising to me, at least it was not our
> experience at all. Our son was offered help right until he left his
> nursery at 4 1/2. The staff should be trained and have the necessary
> qualifications so I would not hesitate to talk to the staff. When you
> say she is left on her own is this something they have explicitly told
> you or your daughter has said? What do the staff do if a child has an
> accident?
>
> They must help children who are toilet training, so it seems strange
> that they would suddenly stop once the child is trained. It's not as
> if one they are in nappies and the next in underwear and that's it, it
> can be a long process.
>
> Mary Ann

Thanks, you have confirmed my thoughts so we will speak to them.

She has told us this herself (she is pretty reliable, and we are always 
careful never to "lead" her in questions we ask) but I have also seen other 
child going off to toilet by herself when collecting DD.  And the fact she 
has had messy pants afterwards pretty much confirms it.

It might be that our DD insists to them that she can do it herself, and 
tells them to go away.  We will remind them that she is not quite as capable 
as she herself thinks!

Thanks again.
date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:54:36 GMT   author:   Lorenzo

Re: Bottom Wiping at Nursery   
On Aug 18, 9:48 am, "Lorenzo"  wrote:
> Our DD will be 3 in November.  She has just become fully toilet trained and
> attends nursery for three days a week.
>
> The problem is that when she is at nursery, she is just left to go to toilet
> on her own (there are little toilets and sinks to use).  She doesn't manage
> because we have never taught her to wipe her own bottom so she ends up in a
> mess for the rest of the day, and with a sore bottom athome time.
>
> Obviously we are now teaching her, but does it sound unusual for them to
> expect her to manage everything herself?

Yes, this does sound surprising to me, at least it was not our
experience at all. Our son was offered help right until he left his
nursery at 4 1/2. The staff should be trained and have the necessary
qualifications so I would not hesitate to talk to the staff. When you
say she is left on her own is this something they have explicitly told
you or your daughter has said? What do the staff do if a child has an
accident?

They must help children who are toilet training, so it seems strange
that they would suddenly stop once the child is trained. It's not as
if one they are in nappies and the next in underwear and that's it, it
can be a long process.

Mary Ann
date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:44:20 -0700   author:   Mary Ann

Re: Bottom Wiping at Nursery   
> Yes, this does sound surprising to me, at least it was not our
> experience at all. Our son was offered help right until he left his
> nursery at 4 1/2. The staff should be trained and have the necessary
> qualifications so I would not hesitate to talk to the staff. When you
> say she is left on her own is this something they have explicitly told
> you or your daughter has said? What do the staff do if a child has an
> accident?
>
> They must help children who are toilet training, so it seems strange
> that they would suddenly stop once the child is trained. It's not as
> if one they are in nappies and the next in underwear and that's it, it
> can be a long process.
>
> Mary Ann

Thanks, you have confirmed my thoughts so we will speak to them.

She has told us this herself (she is pretty reliable, and we are always 
careful never to "lead" her in questions we ask) but I have also seen other 
child going off to toilet by herself when collecting DD.  And the fact she 
has had messy pants afterwards pretty much confirms it.

It might be that our DD insists to them that she can do it herself, and 
tells them to go away.  We will remind them that she is not quite as capable 
as she herself thinks!

Thanks again.
date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:54:36 GMT   author:   Lorenzo

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