Hello,

I recently expanded the "Temporary Goth Events Listing" site I've been 
working on[1], to make it more permanent and provide an interactive map.

The map graphic will look suspiciously familiar to anyone who spent a 
lot of time on netgoth.org.uk.  ;o)  Mr Pete (who created the very 
original UK net.goth map on darkwave.org.uk, and who used to post here 
as -=Falcon=-) kindly allowed me to reuse it.

Each region of the map can be associated with upcoming events, club 
nights, nightclubs, pubs, shops and "others places".  If you create a 
login you can add a profile of yourself to the map too.

(User logins are required if you want to update details on the map, but 
not if you just want to look at it.  The "events tracker" part of the 
site doesn't force you to log in to add contents, but may do in future.)

Unfortunately, although I was able to salvage the map graphic (with it's 
old school 1990s feel!), there isn't any of the old netgoth.org.uk data 
on the site.  :o(  So... that's where I need your help!  Please take a 
look and add your local pub, favourite shop or goth night!

The site can be found here:

  * New URL: http://www.gothr.org/
  * Map section: http://www.gothr.org/map

(If it's not obvious from the new URL, I plan on renaming the site 
"Gothr".  It was the best name I could come up with.  ;o)

Thanks,

Dave

[1] Previously mentioned last October, in message
    <news:slrnfhfrk2.3lk.dmh@armaros.dmh.org.uk>.

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"Dave H"  wrote in message
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> If you create a
> login you can add a profile of yourself to the map too.

Way ahead of you ;-)

>   * New URL: http://www.gothr.org/
>   * Map section: http://www.gothr.org/map

I hope it takes off. IMO it has the most potential as a replacement for
Netgoth that I've seen yet.

Dave
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Dave (Exile)  wrote:
> 
> Way ahead of you ;-)

Heh.  I saw you added Invocation at the start of the month.  Thanks for 
getting the ball rolling.

> I hope it takes off. IMO it has the most potential as a replacement 
> for
> Netgoth that I've seen yet.

Cheers.  Now I need to finish rebranding it, create some web banners and 
actually promote it properly!

Dave

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Quoting  Dave H  :
>I recently expanded the "Temporary Goth Events Listing" site I've been 
>working on[1], to make it more permanent and provide an interactive map.

Any plans to add a mailing list thingy? That's considerably more use than
something one goes and checks...
-- 
David Damerell  flcl?
Today is First Monday, May.

David Damerell  wrote:
> Quoting  Dave H  :
>>I recently expanded the "Temporary Goth Events Listing" site I've been 
>>working on[1], to make it more permanent and provide an interactive map.
> 
> Any plans to add a mailing list thingy? That's considerably more use than
> something one goes and checks...

As in a weekly or monthly mail of upcoming events, extracted from the 
database?  Not immediately, but that sounds perfectly doable.  TBH the 
more the site gets used the more time I'll try to find to enhance it.  
Other things it presently lacks:

  * Syndication (Atom feeds)
  * A comments feature for each item on the map
  * A "mark me as going to this event" feature
  * Etc.

Thanks,

Dave

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Quoting  Dave H  :
>David Damerell  wrote:
>>Quoting  Dave H  :
>>>I recently expanded the "Temporary Goth Events Listing" site I've been 
>>>working on[1], to make it more permanent and provide an interactive map.
>>Any plans to add a mailing list thingy? That's considerably more use than
>>something one goes and checks...
>As in a weekly or monthly mail of upcoming events, extracted from the 
>database?  Not immediately, but that sounds perfectly doable. 

Quite. That's the most useful thing a site like this can do...
-- 
David Damerell  Distortion Field!
Today is First Tuesday, May.

Dave H:
> >As in a weekly or monthly mail of upcoming events, extracted from the
> >database?  Not immediately, but that sounds perfectly doable.

David Damerell:
> Quite. That's the most useful thing a site like this can do...

YMMV there, I think. I'd much rather check a website then receive a regular
email, because:

- An email can never be more up to date than checking the site, and may miss
events submitted at short notice, last-minute cancellations etc.
- If one is visiting a different city, it's good to be able to check for
events there. To include all events nationwide in a regular email would
require the email to be quite sizeable, and one would have to scroll through
to find the location of interest.
- I wouldn't want to have to hunt back through my inbox, set up a special
one just for event mailouts, or save the email away somewhere when it
arrives, when I could simply check a bookmarked web page.

Either way, this should be a useful resource if it gets the support from
promoters etc.
Since UPG seems pretty dead in the water these days, I suggest that plugging
it on LiveJournal communities such as uk_goth_music and uk_goffs_events may
be worthwhile. I submitted Invocation details a while back, and did consider
adding other London events I know of, though I'd rather leave that to the
promoters of those events.

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Dave
Next Invocation: Saturday 17th May - http://invocation-night.net

Dave H:
>   * New URL: http://www.gothr.org/
>   * Map section: http://www.gothr.org/map

If you don't mind a suggestion, it might be good to add the weekday into the
"Date" column.

----
Dave
Next Invocation: Saturday 17th May - http://invocation-night.net

"Dave H"  wrote in message 
news:slrng1gv7t.5rg.dmh@armaros.dmh.org.uk...
> Dave (Exile)  wrote:
>>
>> Way ahead of you ;-)
>
> Heh.  I saw you added Invocation at the start of the month.  Thanks for
> getting the ball rolling.
>
>> I hope it takes off. IMO it has the most potential as a replacement
>> for
>> Netgoth that I've seen yet.
>
> Cheers.  Now I need to finish rebranding it, create some web banners and
> actually promote it properly!
>
> Dave
>
> -- 
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Temporary Goth Events Listing (UK & Ireland) -> http://www.gothr.org/

Is it possible to edit an event once it's been posted?  I want to add some 
events but I don't have all the details yet.

BitBat/trish  wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to edit an event once it's been posted?  I want to add 
> some events but I don't have all the details yet. 

It is.  When you pull an event up there's a little blue 'edit' link at 
the bottom.

Dave

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Dave (Exile)  wrote:
> 
> If you don't mind a suggestion, it might be good to add the weekday into the
> "Date" column.

Good idea, I'll add that soon.

Thanks,

Dave

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Dave (Exile)  wrote:
> 
> Since UPG seems pretty dead in the water these days, I suggest that 
> plugging
> it on LiveJournal communities such as uk_goth_music and uk_goffs_events may
> be worthwhile. I submitted Invocation details a while back, and did consider
> adding other London events I know of, though I'd rather leave that to the
> promoters of those events.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I had just enough time last night between getting in from work, slurping 
noodles and zipping off to a goth night[1] to create a quick web banner 
and post about it on LiveJournal.  I think another 15 or so users have 
signed up on the back of LJ, and the 'places' section 
<http://www.gothr.org/places> has gone from no entries to 27.  So I 
guess it pays to advertise.

Dave

[1] Black Planet in Bedford.  Tonight I'm trying Chaos Theory in
    Nottingham for the first time.

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Dave (Exile):
> > If you don't mind a suggestion, it might be good to add the
> > weekday into the "Date" column.

Dave H:
> Good idea, I'll add that soon.

Well, since I'm on a roll, another *really* trivial one - it might be nice
to allow some sort of separator (such as an underscore) in user names
 - e.g.dave_exile rather than daveexile. I think that could just make
some names slightly easier to read.
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Dave
Next Invocation: Saturday 17th May - http://invocation-night.net

Dave H wrote:

Wonderful!

Where's the Trash-Vogue section .....

Eddie

Dave (Exile)  wrote:
> 
> Well, since I'm on a roll, another *really* trivial one - it might be nice
> to allow some sort of separator (such as an underscore) in user names
>  - e.g.dave_exile rather than daveexile. I think that could just make
> some names slightly easier to read.

A reasonable request... I've tweaked the site accordingly.  Would you 
like me to change your username to "dave_exile"?

Cheers

Dave

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Edward Green  wrote:
> 
> Wonderful!
> 
> Where's the Trash-Vogue section .....

It's over at http://www.trashvogue.co.uk/ -- the place where art, glam, 
punk, rock meet and mingle.  :o)

Dave

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In article , 
dmh@armaros.dmh.org.uk says...
> Hello,
> 
> I recently expanded the "Temporary Goth Events Listing" site I've been 
> working on[1], to make it more permanent and provide an interactive map.
> 
> The map graphic will look suspiciously familiar to anyone who spent a 
> lot of time on netgoth.org.uk.  ;o)  Mr Pete (who created the very 
> original UK net.goth map on darkwave.org.uk, and who used to post here 
> as -=Falcon=-) kindly allowed me to reuse it.
> 
> Each region of the map can be associated with upcoming events, club 
> nights, nightclubs, pubs, shops and "others places".  If you create a 
> login you can add a profile of yourself to the map too.
> 
> (User logins are required if you want to update details on the map, but 
> not if you just want to look at it.  The "events tracker" part of the 
> site doesn't force you to log in to add contents, but may do in future.)
> 
> Unfortunately, although I was able to salvage the map graphic (with it's 
> old school 1990s feel!), there isn't any of the old netgoth.org.uk data 
> on the site.  :o(  So... that's where I need your help!  Please take a 
> look and add your local pub, favourite shop or goth night!
> 
> The site can be found here:
> 
>   * New URL: http://www.gothr.org/
>   * Map section: http://www.gothr.org/map
> 
> (If it's not obvious from the new URL, I plan on renaming the site 
> "Gothr".  It was the best name I could come up with.  ;o)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave
> 
> [1] Previously mentioned last October, in message
>     <news:slrnfhfrk2.3lk.dmh@armaros.dmh.org.uk>.
> 
> 
Can you add a club night if you don't run it but know enough details to 
post it?
-- 
Carl Robson
Audio stream: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com:8000/samtest
Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

Elder  wrote:
> 
> Can you add a club night if you don't run it but know enough details 
> to post it?

Sure.  A number of promoters have taken the time to add their own 
nights, but not everyone will have the time or inclination, so please go 
ahead!

Dave

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"Dave H"  wrote in message
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> A reasonable request... I've tweaked the site accordingly.  Would you
> like me to change your username to "dave_exile"?

Yes please, thanks. Sorry for the slow response, I've been in Leipzig.

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Dave
Next Invocation: Saturday 17th May - http://www.invocation-night.net

Dave (Exile)  wrote:
> 
> Yes please, thanks. Sorry for the slow response, I've been in Leipzig.

Right, that should be done.  Wish I could've made it to WGT; I've only 
ever made it to one, mostly I'm just too disorganised or too poor.  
Instead I spent the weekend in work.  One of my friends dropped 
everything at the last minute and shot out there, and I've just been 
looking at his photos on Facebook...  most of which seem to be of the 
guitarist from Jesus on Extasy for some reason...

Dave

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In article , 
dmh@armaros.dmh.org.uk says...
> Elder  wrote:
> > 
> > Can you add a club night if you don't run it but know enough details 
> > to post it?
> 
> Sure.  A number of promoters have taken the time to add their own 
> nights, but not everyone will have the time or inclination, so please go 
> ahead!
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
Cheers. I shall clear it with at least one of the djs, then add it in.
-- 
Carl Robson
Audio stream: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com:8000/samtest
Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

Dave H  wrote:
> Elder  wrote:
> > 
> > Can you add a club night if you don't run it but know enough details 
> > to post it?

> Sure.  A number of promoters have taken the time to add their own 
> nights, but not everyone will have the time or inclination, so please go 
> ahead!

Do listings expire after a set time (eg 6 months)?  You don't
want dead events hanging around looking live because noone's
bothered to de-list them.

#Paul

On 30 Apr, 13:57, Dave H  wrote:

> The site can be found here:
>
>   * New URL:http://www.gothr.org/
>   * Map section:http://www.gothr.org/map

Blimey, I go away for a  few weeks and don't bother to renew my
newsreader thingy, thinking UPG was dead and then this happens. '

That'll teach me...   Nice one!

martin oldgoth
www.thirteen13.co.uk

kinslerp@delillo.lsr.ph.ic.ac.uk  wrote:
> 
> Do listings expire after a set time (eg 6 months)?  You don't
> want dead events hanging around looking live because noone's
> bothered to de-list them.

The events drop off the site after they've occured.  The URLs remain 
active though -- so it's still possible to pull up for example 
http://www.gothr.org/events/10 even though it's an event from Monday, 
19th of November 2007.  I think of it as a historical record, hopefully 
no-one will turn up to a long-gone event, especially as it lists the day 
of the week next to the date.

Dave

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dj@insanitorium.co.uk  wrote:
> 
> Blimey, I go away for a  few weeks and don't bother to renew my
> newsreader thingy, thinking UPG was dead and then this happens. '
> 
> That'll teach me...   Nice one!

Well it's early days yet, but thanks for the supportive noises!  :o)

Dave

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