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date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 04:12:51 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.people.disability        back       
cripples march in bristol and taunton 28th 29th september   
Dear editor

andrew peacher carer 01749812041 bruton somerset


hi we want you to be aware of disabled people and their carers on the
streets of bristol and taunton the bristol event on monday 28th of
september at 1030am on colledge green bristol and in taunton at 1330
on tuesday 29th  outside warrens the bakers in the pig market

we want people in your area to join in the campain call us now
01749812041

WE are trying to collect petitions for saving dla and aa benefits for
disabled people and elderly people we want all media at these events
as we believe media only can raise the public awareness so far we feel
public awareness has been limited to this campain due to goverment
objections or media shyness ?

We need disabled people and their carers to join our protest in this
area and if national press are interested we can come to you in our
dozens if needed but please let disabled people have their say via
your media

i dont know if you know but gordon brown is coming to bristol during
the labour party conference do you know the date can we link this
story with that one can we change the date ? to get you a scoop and
the uks disabled and elderly will get their say ?.

we know he is coming as miss bristol twitter csar kerry mcarthy mp
bristol east has twitted all about it on twitter lol

we thank the bbc in somerset and local newspapers radio for their
support but we now need action from the media email me call me with a
definate we will cover the story please as disabled and eldery are
inportant people throughout the uk

if dla and aa are scrapped at the moment we are given these benefits
as a  right if the new care and reform packages go through which will
help some but 2.5 million carers and disabled people will be in
poverty as councills will use discretion so the goverment will take
away our right to spend our money the way it helps us.

which at the moment  we fill in a 40 page form to qualifiy for dla and
aa

then councills will have the power to say no to us via discretion

 we want to say no more tiny tim ref dickens novel oliver scrooge made
tim beg for cash then took it away ?

give disabled people a chance to stand up and fight ?

i am dislexic and been a working carer part time recently 2009  doing
man and van

for past 19 years and presently  recieveing benefits for 19 years to
help  my wife who has learning disibilities and mental health issues ?


 we have lost 2 children both disabled to the care system in scotland
due to our illnesses and lack of support no one wants to help us for
our children please help others know to help others save thir benefits
and save their dignity in this area

we have complex but good stories to tell please call email soon

a another big event to watch out for is nov 13th end of the goverments
consultation period see hundreds of wheelchairs march on no 10 downing
street ref green paper care and support

god bless

andy




1 local somerset disabled person says this to me for the prime
minister

                     Dear Mr Brown,
                It has very recently been brought to my attention that
you plan to make changes to the DLA benefit and the generel care
sector?Why may I ask fix something that is not broken?
                     I suffer with MS and I am in reciept of DLA,my
husband is my full time carer. Dla has been my hold on what
independance I have left,it enables me to have the plan of care that
works ideally for me,and nobody knows how or what care they need more
than themselves.My mobility componant pays for me to have a car,worry
free,and this is my life line to the outside world.My husband can take
me to the numerous hospital gp appointments that I have,can take me to
the shops to still be able to par ttake in "normal
"living ,passtimes.Is able to get me to the swimming baths that my
care component aids me to do,I cannot access public transport even if
there were a service to take me to these places,so it is parmount to
me to have freedom access to the outside world.My care component
enables me to go swimming to purchase medications that are not on
prescription,to purchase certain aids,to pay for additional help when
required.All this is allowing me the freedom that I have lost through
my disability,please dont take it away.It doesnt just work for me it
works for thousands of others,it allows disabled people to keep their
say,freedom,independance,to be cared for the way they only know how.I
wouldnt want a stranger c aring for me in my home,where I want to
remain,my husband knows me in side out,he is here in the middle of the
night when I need him,he is here when I fall and that can be at any
time or place,he wheels me to where I need to go, drives me to the
hospitals etc I need to attend,and believe me it would cost alot more
to employ a carer from outside to do this job and that would not be
practical 24 7.I used to be a carer I know how hard it is to find a
guienune carer,not someone who just wants to make a means to an end
then introduce neglect and abuse.And my husband wants to be the one to
care for
me.

We listen to you Mr Brown,please listen to us,why fix something that
is not brloken.Please dont take away our freedom and independance,we
have lost so much already.
Yours Truely
Marie Davey


http://www.politicalcripple.com/d/content/petition-preservation-disability-living-allowance-and-attendance-allowance

http://www.writetothem.com/

http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/latest-news/1103-msps-join-fight-to-save-aa-and-dla
date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 04:12:51 -0700 (PDT)   author:   save dla somerset group

Re: cripples march in bristol and taunton 28th 29th september   
On 12 Sep, 12:12, save dla somerset group
 wrote:
> Dear editor
<snipped>

You'd be suprised how many newsgroups aren't also newspapers.

Martin  <><
date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 05:00:30 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: cripples march in bristol and taunton 28th 29th september   
"mart2306@hotmail.com" wrote:
> 
> On 12 Sep, 12:12, save dla somerset group
>  wrote:
> > Dear editor
> <snipped>
> 
> You'd be suprised how many newsgroups aren't also newspapers.
> 
> Martin  <><


Is it acceptable to call people with disabilities "cripples"?
I consider the term rather offensive, especially coming from 
someone who appears to be claiming to be a carer.


Peter.
date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:34:01 +0100   author:   Bandwidth @radiouk.com

Re: cripples march in bristol and taunton 28th 29th september   
On 24 Sep, 05:34, Bandwidth <@radiouk.com> wrote:
> "mart2...@hotmail.com" wrote:
>
> > On 12 Sep, 12:12, save dla somerset group
> >  wrote:
> > > Dear editor
> > <snipped>
>
> > You'd be suprised how many newsgroups aren't also newspapers.
>
> > Martin  <><
>
> Is it acceptable to call people with disabilities "cripples"?
> I consider the term rather offensive, especially coming from
> someone who appears to be claiming to be a carer.
>
> Peter.

Some people will find the term 'disabled' offensive.
I've no problem with terms used to describe physical state, some
people take exception at any perceived slight.
Perhaps the only fully accepted term for those with some sort of
physical, mental or emotional problem is 'people'.  :)

Martin  <><
date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:21:31 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: cripples march in bristol and taunton 28th 29th september   
"mart2306@hotmail.com" wrote:
> 
> Some people will find the term 'disabled' offensive.
> I've no problem with terms used to describe physical state, some
> people take exception at any perceived slight.
> Perhaps the only fully accepted term for those with some sort of
> physical, mental or emotional problem is 'people'.  :)
> 
> Martin  <><


How would that work in anti-discrimination law?  Would it 
be unlawful to discrimate against a person for a reason 
related to the fact that they are a person?

I have no problems with tags which are purely to identify.  
Although the word "invalid" is not considered appropriate 
now, it is not really an insult.  According to the Collins 
Dictionary, "cripple" is considered offensive.
Banning words simply because kids start using them as an 
insult is pointless - they will simply start using the new 
word (or a shortened version of it) as an insult.

Feelings aside, there are problems with the use of such words.
  Cripple suggests a physical disability or injury which 
    stops that person from moving parts of their body.  It 
    is especially associated with being unable to walk.
  Invalid suggests someone who needs care, and is also generally 
    associated with physical problems.
Disabled covers a much wider range of problems, physical and 
mental, which affect everyday living.  These may be clearly 
visible, but are often "hidden".


More may need to done to raise awareness that disabled 
people cannot be identified by the appearance of a wheelchair 
or walking stick.  Disabled people are not necessarily 
housebound, "cripples" or in need of "care".  Many may 
simply need other people to be a little more considerate, 
not assume that something is fine just because they can 
use it.

While most organisations create wheelchair access (where 
practical), they may do little or nothing for some other 
disabilities.  Some supermarkets have made things harder 
for people with some other disabilities.


Best regards,
Peter.
date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 05:53:35 +0100   author:   Bandwidth @radiouk.com

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