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date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:27:15 -0700,    group: uk.people.disability        back       
Man jailed for urinating on dying woman   
LONDON - A man who urinated on a disabled woman as she lay dying in
the street while his friend filmed the incident was sentenced Friday
to three years in prison.

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Anthony Anderson, 27, was found guilty of the charge of outraging
public decency in the attack on Christine Lakinski, 50, who collapsed
in a street in Hartlepool, northeast England, in July.

Lakinski, who had physical and learning disabilities, fell and hit her
head while walking home. A post mortem determined she died of
pancreatic failure.

Prosecutors said Anderson, who was celebrating his birthday with
friends, kicked Lakinski on the foot, poured a bowl of water over her,
then urinated on her as a friend filmed the assault on a mobile phone.
He also sprayed her with shaving foam in the attack which lasted half
an hour.

Prosecuter Sue Jacobs said one of the group shouted "This is YouTube
material" during the attack.

The group left Lakinski motionless on the sidewalk and called an
ambulance about 20 minutes later after they got ready to go to a
nightclub. Paramedics arrived around an hour after Lakinski collapsed
and found no sign of life.

Anderson, a former soldier, pleaded guilty last month. At the end of
the trial his lawyer, Paul Cleasby, apologized to Lakinski's family on
behalf of his client.

"He cannot explain why he did it," Cleasby said.

Judge Peter Fox called the episode "a shockingly sad story."

"You violated this woman in an incredible way and the shocking nature
of your acts over a prolonged period of time must mean that a prison
sentence of greater length is appropriate in this case," he said in
passing the sentence at Teesside Crown Court
date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:27:15 -0700   author:   fruitella

Re: Man jailed for urinating on dying woman   
Mr. Anderson should have paid dearly by having his offending appendage
whacked off. But that would be cruel and unusual punishment, wouldn't
it?

DCI


On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:27:15 -0700, fruitella
 wrote:

>LONDON - A man who urinated on a disabled woman as she lay dying in
>the street while his friend filmed the incident was sentenced Friday
>to three years in prison.
>
>ADVERTISEMENT
>
>Anthony Anderson, 27, was found guilty of the charge of outraging
>public decency in the attack on Christine Lakinski, 50, who collapsed
>in a street in Hartlepool, northeast England, in July.
>
>Lakinski, who had physical and learning disabilities, fell and hit her
>head while walking home. A post mortem determined she died of
>pancreatic failure.
>
>Prosecutors said Anderson, who was celebrating his birthday with
>friends, kicked Lakinski on the foot, poured a bowl of water over her,
>then urinated on her as a friend filmed the assault on a mobile phone.
>He also sprayed her with shaving foam in the attack which lasted half
>an hour.
>
>Prosecuter Sue Jacobs said one of the group shouted "This is YouTube
>material" during the attack.
>
>The group left Lakinski motionless on the sidewalk and called an
>ambulance about 20 minutes later after they got ready to go to a
>nightclub. Paramedics arrived around an hour after Lakinski collapsed
>and found no sign of life.
>
>Anderson, a former soldier, pleaded guilty last month. At the end of
>the trial his lawyer, Paul Cleasby, apologized to Lakinski's family on
>behalf of his client.
>
>"He cannot explain why he did it," Cleasby said.
>
>Judge Peter Fox called the episode "a shockingly sad story."
>
>"You violated this woman in an incredible way and the shocking nature
>of your acts over a prolonged period of time must mean that a prison
>sentence of greater length is appropriate in this case," he said in
>passing the sentence at Teesside Crown Court
date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:48:25 -0700   author:   never@million

Re: Man jailed for urinating on dying woman   
On 27 Oct, 04:48, never@million wrote:
> Mr. Anderson should have paid dearly by having his offending appendage
> whacked off. But that would be cruel and unusual punishment, wouldn't
> it?
>
> DCI
>
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:27:15 -0700, fruitella
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> >LONDON - A man who urinated on a disabled woman as she lay dying in
> >the street while his friend filmed the incident was sentenced Friday
> >to three years in prison.
>
> >ADVERTISEMENT
>
> >Anthony Anderson, 27, was found guilty of the charge of outraging
> >public decency in the attack on Christine Lakinski, 50, who collapsed
> >in a street in Hartlepool, northeast England, in July.
>
> >Lakinski, who had physical and learning disabilities, fell and hit her
> >head while walking home. A post mortem determined she died of
> >pancreatic failure.
>
> >Prosecutors said Anderson, who was celebrating his birthday with
> >friends, kicked Lakinski on the foot, poured a bowl of water over her,
> >then urinated on her as a friend filmed the assault on a mobile phone.
> >He also sprayed her with shaving foam in the attack which lasted half
> >an hour.
>
> >Prosecuter Sue Jacobs said one of the group shouted "This is YouTube
> >material" during the attack.
>
> >The group left Lakinski motionless on the sidewalk and called an
> >ambulance about 20 minutes later after they got ready to go to a
> >nightclub. Paramedics arrived around an hour after Lakinski collapsed
> >and found no sign of life.
>
> >Anderson, a former soldier, pleaded guilty last month. At the end of
> >the trial his lawyer, Paul Cleasby, apologized to Lakinski's family on
> >behalf of his client.
>
> >"He cannot explain why he did it," Cleasby said.
>
> >Judge Peter Fox called the episode "a shockingly sad story."
>
> >"You violated this woman in an incredible way and the shocking nature
> >of your acts over a prolonged period of time must mean that a prison
> >sentence of greater length is appropriate in this case," he said in
> >passing the sentence at Teesside Crown Court- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

And what is wrong with cruel and unusual punishment?
Isn't prison itself cruel and unusual punishment compared to those of
us who aren't banged up?

Martin  <><
date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:08:27 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Man jailed for urinating on dying woman   
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:08:27 -0700, "mart2306@hotmail.com"
 wrote:

>On 27 Oct, 04:48, never@million wrote:
>> Mr. Anderson should have paid dearly by having his offending appendage
>> whacked off. But that would be cruel and unusual punishment, wouldn't
>> it?
>>
>> DCI
>>

>
>And what is wrong with cruel and unusual punishment?
>Isn't prison itself cruel and unusual punishment compared to those of
>us who aren't banged up?
>
>Martin  <><

Hey! I just stated an opinion.

Donn
date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:51:29 -0700   author:   never@million

Re: Man jailed for urinating on dying woman   
On 27 Oct, 09:51, never@million wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:08:27 -0700, "mart2...@hotmail.com"
>
>  wrote:
> >On 27 Oct, 04:48, never@million wrote:
> >> Mr. Anderson should have paid dearly by having his offending appendage
> >> whacked off. But that would be cruel and unusual punishment, wouldn't
> >> it?
>
> >> DCI
>
> >And what is wrong with cruel and unusual punishment?
> >Isn't prison itself cruel and unusual punishment compared to those of
> >us who aren't banged up?
>
> >Martin  <><
>
> Hey! I just stated an opinion.
>
> Donn

Hey, I agree with you about what should be done to him.
No problem at all with cruel and unusual punishment if it means he
doesn't do it again.

Martin  <><
date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 03:01:11 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Man jailed for urinating on dying woman   
On Oct 26, 9:27 pm, fruitella  wrote:
> LONDON - A man who urinated on a disabled woman as she lay dying in
> the street while his friend filmed the incident was sentenced Friday
> to three years in prison.
>
> ADVERTISEMENT
>
> Anthony Anderson, 27, was found guilty of the charge of outraging
> public decency in the attack on Christine Lakinski, 50, who collapsed
> in a street in Hartlepool, northeast England, in July.
>
> Lakinski, who had physical and learning disabilities, fell and hit her
> head while walking home. A post mortem determined she died of
> pancreatic failure.
>
> Prosecutors said Anderson, who was celebrating his birthday with
> friends, kicked Lakinski on the foot, poured a bowl of water over her,
> then urinated on her as a friend filmed the assault on a mobile phone.
> He also sprayed her with shaving foam in the attack which lasted half
> an hour.
>
> Prosecuter Sue Jacobs said one of the group shouted "This is YouTube
> material" during the attack.
>
> The group left Lakinski motionless on the sidewalk and called an
> ambulance about 20 minutes later after they got ready to go to a
> nightclub. Paramedics arrived around an hour after Lakinski collapsed
> and found no sign of life.
>
> Anderson, a former soldier, pleaded guilty last month. At the end of
> the trial his lawyer, Paul Cleasby, apologized to Lakinski's family on
> behalf of his client.
>
> "He cannot explain why he did it," Cleasby said.
>
> Judge Peter Fox called the episode "a shockingly sad story."
>
> "You violated this woman in an incredible way and the shocking nature
> of your acts over a prolonged period of time must mean that a prison
> sentence of greater length is appropriate in this case," he said in
> passing the sentence at Teesside Crown Court

Must have been Brit soccer fans!
date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 05:26:35 -0700   author:   chatnoir

Re: Man jailed for urinating on dying woman   
hmmm alcohol fused perhaps!!!!

bobbyD

"fruitella"  wrote in message 
news:1193455635.648827.257180@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> LONDON - A man who urinated on a disabled woman as she lay dying in
> the street while his friend filmed the incident was sentenced Friday
> to three years in prison.
>
> ADVERTISEMENT
>
> Anthony Anderson, 27, was found guilty of the charge of outraging
> public decency in the attack on Christine Lakinski, 50, who collapsed
> in a street in Hartlepool, northeast England, in July.
>
> Lakinski, who had physical and learning disabilities, fell and hit her
> head while walking home. A post mortem determined she died of
> pancreatic failure.
>
> Prosecutors said Anderson, who was celebrating his birthday with
> friends, kicked Lakinski on the foot, poured a bowl of water over her,
> then urinated on her as a friend filmed the assault on a mobile phone.
> He also sprayed her with shaving foam in the attack which lasted half
> an hour.
>
> Prosecuter Sue Jacobs said one of the group shouted "This is YouTube
> material" during the attack.
>
> The group left Lakinski motionless on the sidewalk and called an
> ambulance about 20 minutes later after they got ready to go to a
> nightclub. Paramedics arrived around an hour after Lakinski collapsed
> and found no sign of life.
>
> Anderson, a former soldier, pleaded guilty last month. At the end of
> the trial his lawyer, Paul Cleasby, apologized to Lakinski's family on
> behalf of his client.
>
> "He cannot explain why he did it," Cleasby said.
>
> Judge Peter Fox called the episode "a shockingly sad story."
>
> "You violated this woman in an incredible way and the shocking nature
> of your acts over a prolonged period of time must mean that a prison
> sentence of greater length is appropriate in this case," he said in
> passing the sentence at Teesside Crown Court
>
date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:15:22 GMT   author:   bobbyD

Re: Man jailed for urinating on dying woman   
wrote in message 
news:1193472507.072459.198520@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> Isn't prison itself cruel and unusual punishment compared to those of
> us who aren't banged up?
>
> Martin  <><
>

 prison is not cruel and unusual punishment,, it is in fact a long standing 
normal accepted punishment, as the criminal is Fully Aware of the 
consequences of his actions, unless mentally retarded and incapable of 
rational thought,,, therefore any thing one did knowing the result is then 
accepting the punishment by committing the guilty act.

cruel and unusual would be having his penis removed, not prison.

if we established a punishment for pedophilia as removal of your genitals,,, 
and a pedophile committed a criminal act fully aware of the punishment, it 
would deemed normal accepted punishment,,, a s it was previuosly made known 
as the new accepted punishment for pedophilia.

stoning in muslim countries is normal for that culture.
it would be cruel and unusual in Canada,, we dont employ that method ,,, 
what is accepted as normal behavior among a society is the level for cruel 
and unusual,,,

96 years for possession of 6 pot plants- cruel and unusual
96 years for murder- normal

punishment is based on a crime and a victim,, if there is no victim,, then 
does a crime exist- society can be a victim-  graffitti, littering,

but puttin something into your own body that does not infringe on the rights 
of others,, is not a crime,,  smoking pot in Canada is not a crime.
date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:24:04 GMT   author:   bobbyD

Re: Man jailed for urinating on dying woman   
On 27 Oct, 20:24, "bobbyD"  wrote:
>  wrote in message
>
> news:1193472507.072459.198520@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Isn't prison itself cruel and unusual punishment compared to those of
> > us who aren't banged up?
>
> > Martin  <><
>
>  prison is not cruel and unusual punishment,, it is in fact a long standing
> normal accepted punishment, as the criminal is Fully Aware of the
> consequences of his actions, unless mentally retarded and incapable of
> rational thought,,, therefore any thing one did knowing the result is then
> accepting the punishment by committing the guilty act.
>
> cruel and unusual would be having his penis removed, not prison.
>
> if we established a punishment for pedophilia as removal of your genitals,,,
> and a pedophile committed a criminal act fully aware of the punishment, it
> would deemed normal accepted punishment,,, a s it was previuosly made known
> as the new accepted punishment for pedophilia.
>
> stoning in muslim countries is normal for that culture.
> it would be cruel and unusual in Canada,, we dont employ that method ,,,
> what is accepted as normal behavior among a society is the level for cruel
> and unusual,,,
>
> 96 years for possession of 6 pot plants- cruel and unusual
> 96 years for murder- normal
>
> punishment is based on a crime and a victim,, if there is no victim,, then
> does a crime exist- society can be a victim-  graffitti, littering,
>
> but puttin something into your own body that does not infringe on the rights
> of others,, is not a crime,,  smoking pot in Canada is not a crime.

Hmmm..yes. Using one drug is classed as a crime by many governments.
Yet they sell you other drugs that have far worse effects. Or provide
them free (such as those with free prescriptions here in the UK).
Some drugs are better for you than others, some are worse. Yet only
certain non-government approved drugs are classed as illegal.

As for prison, to me locking someone away for years of their life is
cruel and unusual punishment. Time is the one asset we all spend, and
usually cannot avoid spending.
Spending time away from friends and family compared to say flogging,
to me is a no-brainer.

Martin  <><
date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:26:44 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Man jailed for urinating on dying woman   
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:15:22 GMT, "bobbyD" 
wrote:

>hmmm alcohol fused perhaps!!!!
>
>bobbyD

A drunk man's actions are a sober man's thoughts.

Donn
date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:10:18 -0700   author:   never@million

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