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date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:26:51 +0100,    group: uk.people.consumers.ebay        back       
Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
The Older Gentleman gets mine.

What about u guys/gals?
date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:26:51 +0100   author:   News lid

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"News" <news@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:hal7ad$af7$2@aioe.org...
> The Older Gentleman gets mine.
>
> What about u guys/gals?


No, you win it by a country mile.
date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 18:37:26 +0100   author:   Partac

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
In article , Partac says...
> 
> "News" <news@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:hal7ad$af7$2@aioe.org...
> > The Older Gentleman gets mine.
> >
> > What about u guys/gals?
> 
> 
> No, you win it by a country mile. 

Heh.
date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:04:24 GMT   author:   petrolcan

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"News" <news@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:hal7ad$af7$2@aioe.org...
> The Older Gentleman gets mine.
> 
> What about u guys/gals?


Oooooh , I know the answer.

It's you , isn't it.

<plonk>

-- 
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger , then I hide until it goes away"
date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:05:10 +0100   author:   Dr Zoidberg AlexNOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
News <news@invalid.invalid> wrote:
 

>The Older Gentleman gets mine.
>
>What about u guys/gals?

Continuously bragging about ripping people off in a publicly
accessible forum and then wondering how people find out is pretty
dumb.

But despite that, Kraftee would get my vote. He's like a human sponge,
mopping up all the idiotic racist views posted by althiem and Neil,
then he comes across as a stereotypical bonehead when he tries to put
them into his own words.
date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:05:29 +0100   author:   Spacker

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"News" <news@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:hal7ad$af7$2@aioe.org...
> The Older Gentleman gets mine.
>
> What about u guys/gals?

You win for simple stupidity.

Spacker has the obsessive insanity award sewn up.

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date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:45:11 GMT   author:   Richard Colton usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
wrote:
 

>
>"News" <news@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:hal7ad$af7$2@aioe.org...
>> The Older Gentleman gets mine.
>>
>> What about u guys/gals?
>
>You win for simple stupidity.
>
>Spacker has the obsessive insanity award sewn up.

It is interesting that you see opposing racism as a form of insanity.
date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:42:08 +0100   author:   Spacker

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Spacker"  wrote in message 
news:mcqsc5tloumd8fjhp288augvct3spfcj67@4ax.com...
> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>"News" <news@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
>>news:hal7ad$af7$2@aioe.org...
>>> The Older Gentleman gets mine.
>>>
>>> What about u guys/gals?
>>
>>You win for simple stupidity.
>>
>>Spacker has the obsessive insanity award sewn up.
>
> It is interesting that you see opposing racism as a form of insanity.

You're not opposing racism - you went way past that a long time ago.

I have many asian friends (from several different religions and areas of the 
world).  All of them - without exception believe you have serious mental 
health problems.  Interestingly, not one of them agrees with your stance.

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date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:07:39 GMT   author:   Richard Colton usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> wrote 
in message news:%iBzm.1063$KR3.1016@text.news.virginmedia.com...

> I have many asian friends (from several different religions and areas of 
> the world).  All of them - without exception believe you have serious 
> mental health problems.  Interestingly, not one of them agrees with your 
> stance.
>

Ah, that old ditty again: "The lurkers support me in email." And twinned 
with the old chestnut about having non white friends. So, your Asian friends 
support the BNP and membership thereof, eh?
date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:27:55 +0100   author:   Fran

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Fran"  wrote in message 
news:hams6e$mqr$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> 
> wrote in message news:%iBzm.1063$KR3.1016@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>
>> I have many asian friends (from several different religions and areas of 
>> the world).  All of them - without exception believe you have serious 
>> mental health problems.  Interestingly, not one of them agrees with your 
>> stance.
>>
>
> Ah, that old ditty again: "The lurkers support me in email."

WTF has email got to do with it?

> And twinned with the old chestnut about having non white friends.

So now you find it surprising that non-asians have asian friends?  Now who's 
showing a bias?

> So, your Asian friends support the BNP and membership thereof, eh?

Not for one minute, and neither do I.  On a related point though, nearly all 
of them see a need for controls on unlimited immigration (however, that is a 
topic for another place).

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date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:26:18 GMT   author:   Richard Colton usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
In article <hams6e$mqr$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Fran says...
> 
> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> wrote 
> in message news:%iBzm.1063$KR3.1016@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> 
> > I have many asian friends (from several different religions and areas of 
> > the world).  All of them - without exception believe you have serious 
> > mental health problems.  Interestingly, not one of them agrees with your 
> > stance.
> >
> 
> Ah, that old ditty again: "The lurkers support me in email." And twinned 
> with the old chestnut about having non white friends. So, your Asian friends 
> support the BNP and membership thereof, eh? 

See, it's just that sort of reply that makes me believe that you and 
spaker are actually the same person.
date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:38:33 GMT   author:   petrolcan

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> wrote 
in message news:_kDzm.1128$KR3.1122@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>
> "Fran"  wrote in message 
> news:hams6e$mqr$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> 
>> wrote in message news:%iBzm.1063$KR3.1016@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>
>>> I have many asian friends (from several different religions and areas of 
>>> the world).  All of them - without exception believe you have serious 
>>> mental health problems.  Interestingly, not one of them agrees with your 
>>> stance.
>>>
>>
>> Ah, that old ditty again: "The lurkers support me in email."
>
> WTF has email got to do with it?

Google on that line, and you'll see.

>
>> And twinned with the old chestnut about having non white friends.
>
> So now you find it surprising that non-asians have asian friends?  Now 
> who's showing a bias?

It's been used as a statement for years to justify a particularly 
distasteful covert form of racism. I'm not ascribing that to you, 
necessarily, but it sets off alarm bells for me as a remark. I've heard it 
used a fair few times: for example,  one of my neighbours, when challenged 
about her intent to vote BNP, stated that she could not possibly be racist 
as she liked our Indian newsagent. But she wanted to see all non white 
"immigrants" sent "home". That's what I'm referring to.

What your Asian friends supposedly think of Spacker or others isn't really 
germane to the argument, you know. Especially if they haven't read all the 
posts here, including people like Humphries and Kraftee. Or are you saying 
they've read all of them?

>
>> So, your Asian friends support the BNP and membership thereof, eh?
>
> Not for one minute, and neither do I.

But you and they think people have mental health issues because they object 
to the BNP? Contradictory, surely? And, yet again, I find it utterly 
exasperating that an accusation of being somehow unhinged is considered a 
valid debating strategy. It's up there with the references to race, 
religion, personal characteristics, and so on. Yes, have a heated debate: 
but why on earth is it deemed necessary or acceptable to use tactics like 
these. It's not just you in this instance, of course.

>On a related point though, nearly all of them see a need for controls on 
>unlimited immigration (however, that is a topic for another place).
>

Indeed: and it isn't really relevant to an argument about racism per se. The 
UK gets more "White" immigrants than from other ethnicities.
date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:42:14 +0100   author:   Fran

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
wrote:
 

>
>"Spacker"  wrote in message 
>news:mcqsc5tloumd8fjhp288augvct3spfcj67@4ax.com...
>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>"News" <news@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
>>>news:hal7ad$af7$2@aioe.org...
>>>> The Older Gentleman gets mine.
>>>>
>>>> What about u guys/gals?
>>>
>>>You win for simple stupidity.
>>>
>>>Spacker has the obsessive insanity award sewn up.
>>
>> It is interesting that you see opposing racism as a form of insanity.
>
>You're not opposing racism - you went way past that a long time ago.
>
>I have many asian friends (from several different religions and areas of the 
>world).  All of them - without exception believe you have serious mental 
>health problems.  Interestingly, not one of them agrees with your stance.

They would if they lived in a BNP area and had shit through their
letterbox every day.
date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:57:42 +0100   author:   Spacker

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
wrote:
 

>
>"Fran"  wrote in message 
>news:hams6e$mqr$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> 
>> wrote in message news:%iBzm.1063$KR3.1016@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>
>>> I have many asian friends (from several different religions and areas of 
>>> the world).  All of them - without exception believe you have serious 
>>> mental health problems.  Interestingly, not one of them agrees with your 
>>> stance.
>>>
>>
>> Ah, that old ditty again: "The lurkers support me in email."
>
>WTF has email got to do with it?
>
>> And twinned with the old chestnut about having non white friends.
>
>So now you find it surprising that non-asians have asian friends?  Now who's 
>showing a bias?

If I thought it was true I would actually express surprise that
someone with Asian friends would support racists.

>
>> So, your Asian friends support the BNP and membership thereof, eh?
>
>Not for one minute, and neither do I.  On a related point though, nearly all 
>of them see a need for controls on unlimited immigration (however, that is a 
>topic for another place).

There is already controls on immigration. Why are you pretending there
isn't? Unlimited immigration is one of the lies the BNP came out with
in one of their election leaflets.
date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:57:42 +0100   author:   Spacker

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Fran"  wrote:
 

>
>"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> wrote 
>in message news:_kDzm.1128$KR3.1122@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>
>> "Fran"  wrote in message 
>> news:hams6e$mqr$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> 
>>> wrote in message news:%iBzm.1063$KR3.1016@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>>
>>>> I have many asian friends (from several different religions and areas of 
>>>> the world).  All of them - without exception believe you have serious 
>>>> mental health problems.  Interestingly, not one of them agrees with your 
>>>> stance.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ah, that old ditty again: "The lurkers support me in email."
>>
>> WTF has email got to do with it?
>
>Google on that line, and you'll see.
>
>>
>>> And twinned with the old chestnut about having non white friends.
>>
>> So now you find it surprising that non-asians have asian friends?  Now 
>> who's showing a bias?
>
>It's been used as a statement for years to justify a particularly 
>distasteful covert form of racism. I'm not ascribing that to you, 
>necessarily, but it sets off alarm bells for me as a remark. I've heard it 
>used a fair few times: for example,  one of my neighbours, when challenged 
>about her intent to vote BNP, stated that she could not possibly be racist 
>as she liked our Indian newsagent. But she wanted to see all non white 
>"immigrants" sent "home". That's what I'm referring to.
>
>What your Asian friends supposedly think of Spacker or others isn't really 
>germane to the argument, you know. Especially if they haven't read all the 
>posts here, including people like Humphries and Kraftee. Or are you saying 
>they've read all of them?
>
>>
>>> So, your Asian friends support the BNP and membership thereof, eh?
>>
>> Not for one minute, and neither do I.
>
>But you and they think people have mental health issues because they object 
>to the BNP? Contradictory, surely? And, yet again, I find it utterly 
>exasperating that an accusation of being somehow unhinged is considered a 
>valid debating strategy. It's up there with the references to race, 
>religion, personal characteristics, and so on. Yes, have a heated debate: 
>but why on earth is it deemed necessary or acceptable to use tactics like 
>these. It's not just you in this instance, of course.

The idea is to get casual readers to dismiss what you are saying and
not bother to look any further into it. It's the same tactic as saying
all the Google links are "lies". If they are lies, there is no point
clicking on them.

>
>>On a related point though, nearly all of them see a need for controls on 
>>unlimited immigration (however, that is a topic for another place).
>>
>
>Indeed: and it isn't really relevant to an argument about racism per se. The 
>UK gets more "White" immigrants than from other ethnicities.
>
>
date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:57:42 +0100   author:   Spacker

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Fran"  wrote in message 
news:han0ho$itn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> 
> wrote in message news:_kDzm.1128$KR3.1122@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>
>> "Fran"  wrote in message 
>> news:hams6e$mqr$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> 
>>> wrote in message news:%iBzm.1063$KR3.1016@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>>
>>>> I have many asian friends (from several different religions and areas 
>>>> of the world).  All of them - without exception believe you have 
>>>> serious mental health problems.  Interestingly, not one of them agrees 
>>>> with your stance.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ah, that old ditty again: "The lurkers support me in email."
>>
>> WTF has email got to do with it?
>
> Google on that line, and you'll see.

Nope.  If you expect me to understand it, explain it or don't post it at all 
if it's not relevant.

>>
>>> And twinned with the old chestnut about having non white friends.
>>
>> So now you find it surprising that non-asians have asian friends?  Now 
>> who's showing a bias?
>
> It's been used as a statement for years to justify a particularly 
> distasteful covert form of racism. I'm not ascribing that to you,

I'm glad to hear it, and I'm also aware that anyone can claim anything on 
usenet without providing any proof.

> necessarily, but it sets off alarm bells for me as a remark. I've heard it 
> used a fair few times: for example,  one of my neighbours, when challenged 
> about her intent to vote BNP, stated that she could not possibly be racist 
> as she liked our Indian newsagent. But she wanted to see all non white 
> "immigrants" sent "home". That's what I'm referring to.

Lol.  And that's a shining example of people not understanding the issues. 
I hope you educated your neighbour?

> What your Asian friends supposedly think of Spacker or others isn't really 
> germane to the argument, you know. Especially if they haven't read all the 
> posts here, including people like Humphries and Kraftee. Or are you saying 
> they've read all of them?

Some have, others have little interest in the bickering, and others have no 
interest in computers or eBay.  I showed several of them this and a few 
other relevant threads, and every one of them came to the conclusion that 
Spacker is unhinged.

>>
>>> So, your Asian friends support the BNP and membership thereof, eh?
>>
>> Not for one minute, and neither do I.
>
> But you and they think people have mental health issues because they 
> object to the BNP?

Not at all.  The obsessive quality of Spacker's posts certainly indicates it 
though.

> Contradictory, surely?

No.  See above.

> And, yet again, I find it utterly exasperating that an accusation of being 
> somehow unhinged is considered a valid debating strategy.

It isn't a debating point.  It's a simple statement of opinion.

> It's up there with the references to race, religion, personal 
> characteristics, and so on. Yes, have a heated debate: but why on earth is 
> it deemed necessary or acceptable to use tactics like these. It's not just 
> you in this instance, of course.

No, I am genuinely concerned for the sake of Spacker's mental health.  It's 
all too easy to claim someone is crazy, but given his prolonged rantings, it 
does seem to indicate a deep seated problem.

>>On a related point though, nearly all of them see a need for controls on 
>>unlimited immigration (however, that is a topic for another place).
>>
>
> Indeed: and it isn't really relevant to an argument about racism per se. 
> The UK gets more "White" immigrants than from other ethnicities.

Absolutely.

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date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:13:08 GMT   author:   Richard Colton usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Spacker" <spacker@*.cum> wrote in message 
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> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>

<snip>

>>So now you find it surprising that non-asians have asian friends?  Now 
>>who's
>>showing a bias?
>
> If I thought it was true I would actually express surprise that
> someone with Asian friends would support racists.

FFS.  For the first and last time - I am not supporting anyone, merely 
expressing a personal opinion.

<snip>

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date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:15:12 GMT   author:   Richard Colton usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Spacker"  wrote in message 
news:pe2uc595s37pps73t6sv28vm7daj3efjcb@4ax.com...
> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>"Spacker"  wrote in message
>>news:mcqsc5tloumd8fjhp288augvct3spfcj67@4ax.com...
>>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"News" <news@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>news:hal7ad$af7$2@aioe.org...
>>>>> The Older Gentleman gets mine.
>>>>>
>>>>> What about u guys/gals?
>>>>
>>>>You win for simple stupidity.
>>>>
>>>>Spacker has the obsessive insanity award sewn up.
>>>
>>> It is interesting that you see opposing racism as a form of insanity.
>>
>>You're not opposing racism - you went way past that a long time ago.
>>
>>I have many asian friends (from several different religions and areas of 
>>the
>>world).  All of them - without exception believe you have serious mental
>>health problems.  Interestingly, not one of them agrees with your stance.
>
> They would if they lived in a BNP area and had shit through their
> letterbox every day.

So that never happens the other way around?

Seriously, seek some professional help - especially if you believe that 
every Asian that lives in "a BNP area" suffers abuse.

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date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:16:57 GMT   author:   Richard Colton usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
wrote:
 

>
>"Fran"  wrote in message 
>news:han0ho$itn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> 
>> wrote in message news:_kDzm.1128$KR3.1122@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>>
>>> "Fran"  wrote in message 
>>> news:hams6e$mqr$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>
>>>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> 
>>>> wrote in message news:%iBzm.1063$KR3.1016@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>>>
>>>>> I have many asian friends (from several different religions and areas 
>>>>> of the world).  All of them - without exception believe you have 
>>>>> serious mental health problems.  Interestingly, not one of them agrees 
>>>>> with your stance.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah, that old ditty again: "The lurkers support me in email."
>>>
>>> WTF has email got to do with it?
>>
>> Google on that line, and you'll see.
>
>Nope.  If you expect me to understand it, explain it or don't post it at all 
>if it's not relevant.
>
>>>
>>>> And twinned with the old chestnut about having non white friends.
>>>
>>> So now you find it surprising that non-asians have asian friends?  Now 
>>> who's showing a bias?
>>
>> It's been used as a statement for years to justify a particularly 
>> distasteful covert form of racism. I'm not ascribing that to you,
>
>I'm glad to hear it, and I'm also aware that anyone can claim anything on 
>usenet without providing any proof.

Just as well that I always provide proof of everything I say then
isn't it?

>
>> necessarily, but it sets off alarm bells for me as a remark. I've heard it 
>> used a fair few times: for example,  one of my neighbours, when challenged 
>> about her intent to vote BNP, stated that she could not possibly be racist 
>> as she liked our Indian newsagent. But she wanted to see all non white 
>> "immigrants" sent "home". That's what I'm referring to.
>
>Lol.  And that's a shining example of people not understanding the issues. 
>I hope you educated your neighbour?
>
>> What your Asian friends supposedly think of Spacker or others isn't really 
>> germane to the argument, you know. Especially if they haven't read all the 
>> posts here, including people like Humphries and Kraftee. Or are you saying 
>> they've read all of them?
>
>Some have, others have little interest in the bickering, and others have no 
>interest in computers or eBay.  I showed several of them this and a few 
>other relevant threads, and every one of them came to the conclusion that 
>Spacker is unhinged.

What did they have to say about all the racist posts made in this
group, and the people who made them? Did they think discussing how to
stop "niggers" from buying from you on ebay, and the best way to
murder ethnic minorities were suitable topics? Or did you not show
them those posts for some mysterious reason?

>
>>>
>>>> So, your Asian friends support the BNP and membership thereof, eh?
>>>
>>> Not for one minute, and neither do I.
>>
>> But you and they think people have mental health issues because they 
>> object to the BNP?
>
>Not at all.  The obsessive quality of Spacker's posts certainly indicates it 
>though.
>
>> Contradictory, surely?
>
>No.  See above.
>
>> And, yet again, I find it utterly exasperating that an accusation of being 
>> somehow unhinged is considered a valid debating strategy.
>
>It isn't a debating point.  It's a simple statement of opinion.
>
>> It's up there with the references to race, religion, personal 
>> characteristics, and so on. Yes, have a heated debate: but why on earth is 
>> it deemed necessary or acceptable to use tactics like these. It's not just 
>> you in this instance, of course.
>
>No, I am genuinely concerned for the sake of Spacker's mental health.  It's 
>all too easy to claim someone is crazy, but given his prolonged rantings, it 
>does seem to indicate a deep seated problem.

But would it make any of what I say not true, and somehow make all the
posts that are archived on Google in support of what I say cease to
exist?

>
>>>On a related point though, nearly all of them see a need for controls on 
>>>unlimited immigration (however, that is a topic for another place).
>>>
>>
>> Indeed: and it isn't really relevant to an argument about racism per se. 
>> The UK gets more "White" immigrants than from other ethnicities.
>
>Absolutely.
date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:36:49 +0100   author:   Spacker

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
wrote:
 

>
>"Spacker" <spacker@*.cum> wrote in message 
>news:vg2uc5l6gc7mshvvhp2eilj56g9loo36th@4ax.com...
>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
>
><snip>
>
>>>So now you find it surprising that non-asians have asian friends?  Now 
>>>who's
>>>showing a bias?
>>
>> If I thought it was true I would actually express surprise that
>> someone with Asian friends would support racists.
>
>FFS.  For the first and last time - I am not supporting anyone, merely 
>expressing a personal opinion.
>
><snip>

Which just happens to be the same opinion held by the racists in this
group and their supporters, so you thought you would join in on their
smear campaign against me which started when I pointed out that one of
them was an active BNP member?
date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:36:49 +0100   author:   Spacker

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
wrote:
 

>
>"Spacker"  wrote in message 
>news:pe2uc595s37pps73t6sv28vm7daj3efjcb@4ax.com...
>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>"Spacker"  wrote in message
>>>news:mcqsc5tloumd8fjhp288augvct3spfcj67@4ax.com...
>>>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"News" <news@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>news:hal7ad$af7$2@aioe.org...
>>>>>> The Older Gentleman gets mine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about u guys/gals?
>>>>>
>>>>>You win for simple stupidity.
>>>>>
>>>>>Spacker has the obsessive insanity award sewn up.
>>>>
>>>> It is interesting that you see opposing racism as a form of insanity.
>>>
>>>You're not opposing racism - you went way past that a long time ago.
>>>
>>>I have many asian friends (from several different religions and areas of 
>>>the
>>>world).  All of them - without exception believe you have serious mental
>>>health problems.  Interestingly, not one of them agrees with your stance.
>>
>> They would if they lived in a BNP area and had shit through their
>> letterbox every day.
>
>So that never happens the other way around?

The difference would be that the BNP members get what they deserve.

>
>Seriously, seek some professional help - especially if you believe that 
>every Asian that lives in "a BNP area" suffers abuse.

Is there a reason why you are attributing things to me that I have not
said? That is something else you share in common with the racists in
this group.
date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:36:49 +0100   author:   Spacker

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> wrote 
in message news:UxHzm.1224$KR3.370@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>
> "Fran"  wrote in message

>
>> necessarily, but it sets off alarm bells for me as a remark. I've heard 
>> it used a fair few times: for example,  one of my neighbours, when 
>> challenged about her intent to vote BNP, stated that she could not 
>> possibly be racist as she liked our Indian newsagent. But she wanted to 
>> see all non white "immigrants" sent "home". That's what I'm referring to.
>
> Lol.  And that's a shining example of people not understanding the issues. 
> I hope you educated your neighbour?

I certainly tried to, politely. Whether it worked, I don't know, but I'd not 
let it pass.

>
>> What your Asian friends supposedly think of Spacker or others isn't 
>> really germane to the argument, you know. Especially if they haven't read 
>> all the posts here, including people like Humphries and Kraftee. Or are 
>> you saying they've read all of them?
>
> Some have, others have little interest in the bickering, and others have 
> no interest in computers or eBay.  I showed several of them this and a few 
> other relevant threads, and every one of them came to the conclusion that 
> Spacker is unhinged.
>

I think you need to go further back than that, tbh.

>
>> And, yet again, I find it utterly exasperating that an accusation of 
>> being somehow unhinged is considered a valid debating strategy.
>
> It isn't a debating point.  It's a simple statement of opinion.

If that's how you intend it, rather than in the way it's typically used by 
others here, then I don't object. I don't agree, personally. I do think 
he's - exasperated is too weak a word! - by some of the appalling things 
that have been said here. And that makes him somewhat intemperate, shall we 
say. I'm equally angered, I suspect, without claiming telepathy, but I post 
in a different manner.

>
>> It's up there with the references to race, religion, personal 
>> characteristics, and so on. Yes, have a heated debate: but why on earth 
>> is it deemed necessary or acceptable to use tactics like these. It's not 
>> just you in this instance, of course.
>
> No, I am genuinely concerned for the sake of Spacker's mental health. 
> It's all too easy to claim someone is crazy, but given his prolonged 
> rantings, it does seem to indicate a deep seated problem.

See above!

>
>>>On a related point though, nearly all of them see a need for controls on 
>>>unlimited immigration (however, that is a topic for another place).
>>>
>>
>> Indeed: and it isn't really relevant to an argument about racism per se. 
>> The UK gets more "White" immigrants than from other ethnicities.
>
> Absolutely.
>

ISTR reading that Americans are somewhere near the top of the list, but I'd 
have to go and search the ONS site again.
date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:54:27 +0100   author:   Fran

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
In article <QzHzm.1225$KR3.1160@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Richard 
Colton says...
> 
> "Spacker" <spacker@*.cum> wrote in message 
> news:vg2uc5l6gc7mshvvhp2eilj56g9loo36th@4ax.com...
> > "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
> 
> <snip>
> 
> >>So now you find it surprising that non-asians have asian friends?  Now 
> >>who's
> >>showing a bias?
> >
> > If I thought it was true I would actually express surprise that
> > someone with Asian friends would support racists.
> 
> FFS.  For the first and last time - I am not supporting anyone, merely 
> expressing a personal opinion.

Richard, you have to understand that this is *exactly* what spacker 
does.
date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:01:07 GMT   author:   petrolcan

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Fran"  wrote:
 

>
>"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> wrote 
>in message news:UxHzm.1224$KR3.370@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>
>> "Fran"  wrote in message
>
>>
>>> necessarily, but it sets off alarm bells for me as a remark. I've heard 
>>> it used a fair few times: for example,  one of my neighbours, when 
>>> challenged about her intent to vote BNP, stated that she could not 
>>> possibly be racist as she liked our Indian newsagent. But she wanted to 
>>> see all non white "immigrants" sent "home". That's what I'm referring to.
>>
>> Lol.  And that's a shining example of people not understanding the issues. 
>> I hope you educated your neighbour?
>
>I certainly tried to, politely. Whether it worked, I don't know, but I'd not 
>let it pass.
>
>>
>>> What your Asian friends supposedly think of Spacker or others isn't 
>>> really germane to the argument, you know. Especially if they haven't read 
>>> all the posts here, including people like Humphries and Kraftee. Or are 
>>> you saying they've read all of them?
>>
>> Some have, others have little interest in the bickering, and others have 
>> no interest in computers or eBay.  I showed several of them this and a few 
>> other relevant threads, and every one of them came to the conclusion that 
>> Spacker is unhinged.
>>
>
>I think you need to go further back than that, tbh.
>
>>
>>> And, yet again, I find it utterly exasperating that an accusation of 
>>> being somehow unhinged is considered a valid debating strategy.
>>
>> It isn't a debating point.  It's a simple statement of opinion.
>
>If that's how you intend it, rather than in the way it's typically used by 
>others here, then I don't object. I don't agree, personally. I do think 
>he's - exasperated is too weak a word! - by some of the appalling things 
>that have been said here. And that makes him somewhat intemperate, shall we 
>say. 

If that means I believe in calling someone a cunt when they do or say
something cuntish, I would have thought that would be obvious from my
first post here 4 years ago. 

Nothing I say or do has changed during that time, but the group's
attitude towards me has definitely changed since I pointed out that
one of them is on the BNP member list. 

If this is a coincidence it seems a pretty odd one ...

>I'm equally angered, I suspect, without claiming telepathy, but I post 
>in a different manner.
>
>>
>>> It's up there with the references to race, religion, personal 
>>> characteristics, and so on. Yes, have a heated debate: but why on earth 
>>> is it deemed necessary or acceptable to use tactics like these. It's not 
>>> just you in this instance, of course.
>>
>> No, I am genuinely concerned for the sake of Spacker's mental health. 
>> It's all too easy to claim someone is crazy, but given his prolonged 
>> rantings, it does seem to indicate a deep seated problem.
>
>See above!
>
>>
>>>>On a related point though, nearly all of them see a need for controls on 
>>>>unlimited immigration (however, that is a topic for another place).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed: and it isn't really relevant to an argument about racism per se. 
>>> The UK gets more "White" immigrants than from other ethnicities.
>>
>> Absolutely.
>>
>
>ISTR reading that Americans are somewhere near the top of the list, but I'd 
>have to go and search the ONS site again. 
>
date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:12:03 +0100   author:   Spacker

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
petrolcan  wrote:
 

>In article <QzHzm.1225$KR3.1160@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Richard 
>Colton says...
>> 
>> "Spacker" <spacker@*.cum> wrote in message 
>> news:vg2uc5l6gc7mshvvhp2eilj56g9loo36th@4ax.com...
>> > "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
>> 
>> <snip>
>> 
>> >>So now you find it surprising that non-asians have asian friends?  Now 
>> >>who's
>> >>showing a bias?
>> >
>> > If I thought it was true I would actually express surprise that
>> > someone with Asian friends would support racists.
>> 
>> FFS.  For the first and last time - I am not supporting anyone, merely 
>> expressing a personal opinion.
>
>Richard, you have to understand that this is *exactly* what spacker 
>does.

And this is exactly what you people do. Unfortunately for you, it does
not detract from the truthfulness of what I say and does not make the
Google posts that I link to for verification go away.
date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:12:03 +0100   author:   Spacker

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
In article , Spacker says...
> 
> petrolcan  wrote:
> >> > "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
> >> 
> >> <snip>
> >> 
> >> >>So now you find it surprising that non-asians have asian friends?  Now 
> >> >>who's showing a bias?
> >> >
> >> > If I thought it was true I would actually express surprise that
> >> > someone with Asian friends would support racists.
> >> 
> >> FFS.  For the first and last time - I am not supporting anyone, merely 
> >> expressing a personal opinion.
> >
> >Richard, you have to understand that this is *exactly* what spacker 
> >does.
> 
> And this is exactly what you people do. 

*you* people?

<spacker mode on>

That's racist!

<spacker mode off>

> Unfortunately for you, it does
> not detract from the truthfulness of what I say and does not make the
> Google posts that I link to for verification go away.

It'd be nice if you did post some proper links.
date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:18:00 GMT   author:   petrolcan

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Spacker"  wrote in message 
news:vbiuc51mfjte6ncgmus5dobg60onidsi6g@4ax.com...
> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>"Spacker" <spacker@*.cum> wrote in message
>>news:vg2uc5l6gc7mshvvhp2eilj56g9loo36th@4ax.com...
>>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>>>So now you find it surprising that non-asians have asian friends?  Now
>>>>who's
>>>>showing a bias?
>>>
>>> If I thought it was true I would actually express surprise that
>>> someone with Asian friends would support racists.
>>
>>FFS.  For the first and last time - I am not supporting anyone, merely
>>expressing a personal opinion.
>>
>><snip>
>
> Which just happens to be the same opinion held by the racists in this
> group and their supporters,

Whether they are or are not, it doesn't automatically invalidate their 
opinion.

> so you thought you would join in on their
> smear campaign against me which started when I pointed out that one of
> them was an active BNP member?

Not at all.  From my reading of your threads over the last few years, you 
have gone from being an arrogant, foul-mouthed, offensive fool to where you 
are today.  I'd prefer you sought help, but that would mean accepting that 
your behaviour is obsessive.

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date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:58:07 GMT   author:   Richard Colton usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Spacker"  wrote in message 
news:jgiuc5d887ocghfk3spm6r5qhetkb08cqj@4ax.com...
> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>"Spacker"  wrote in message
>>news:pe2uc595s37pps73t6sv28vm7daj3efjcb@4ax.com...
>>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Spacker"  wrote in message
>>>>news:mcqsc5tloumd8fjhp288augvct3spfcj67@4ax.com...
>>>>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"News" <news@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:hal7ad$af7$2@aioe.org...
>>>>>>> The Older Gentleman gets mine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What about u guys/gals?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You win for simple stupidity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Spacker has the obsessive insanity award sewn up.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is interesting that you see opposing racism as a form of insanity.
>>>>
>>>>You're not opposing racism - you went way past that a long time ago.
>>>>
>>>>I have many asian friends (from several different religions and areas of
>>>>the
>>>>world).  All of them - without exception believe you have serious mental
>>>>health problems.  Interestingly, not one of them agrees with your 
>>>>stance.
>>>
>>> They would if they lived in a BNP area and had shit through their
>>> letterbox every day.
>>
>>So that never happens the other way around?
>
> The difference would be that the BNP members get what they deserve.

And how is that any different to the belief that Asian's or any other 
minority group gets what it deserves?

Practice what you preach for a change.

>>
>>Seriously, seek some professional help - especially if you believe that
>>every Asian that lives in "a BNP area" suffers abuse.
>
> Is there a reason why you are attributing things to me that I have not
> said? That is something else you share in common with the racists in
> this group.

So now I'm a racist for disagreeing with you?

Pathetic... you truly are.

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date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:00:04 GMT   author:   Richard Colton usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
wrote:
 

>
>"Spacker"  wrote in message 
>news:jgiuc5d887ocghfk3spm6r5qhetkb08cqj@4ax.com...
>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>"Spacker"  wrote in message
>>>news:pe2uc595s37pps73t6sv28vm7daj3efjcb@4ax.com...
>>>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Spacker"  wrote in message
>>>>>news:mcqsc5tloumd8fjhp288augvct3spfcj67@4ax.com...
>>>>>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"News" <news@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:hal7ad$af7$2@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>> The Older Gentleman gets mine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What about u guys/gals?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You win for simple stupidity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Spacker has the obsessive insanity award sewn up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is interesting that you see opposing racism as a form of insanity.
>>>>>
>>>>>You're not opposing racism - you went way past that a long time ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have many asian friends (from several different religions and areas of
>>>>>the
>>>>>world).  All of them - without exception believe you have serious mental
>>>>>health problems.  Interestingly, not one of them agrees with your 
>>>>>stance.
>>>>
>>>> They would if they lived in a BNP area and had shit through their
>>>> letterbox every day.
>>>
>>>So that never happens the other way around?
>>
>> The difference would be that the BNP members get what they deserve.
>
>And how is that any different to the belief that Asian's or any other 
>minority group gets what it deserves?

The difference is that the Asians don't do it just because the BNP
members are white.

>
>Practice what you preach for a change.

I did.

>
>>>
>>>Seriously, seek some professional help - especially if you believe that
>>>every Asian that lives in "a BNP area" suffers abuse.
>>
>> Is there a reason why you are attributing things to me that I have not
>> said? That is something else you share in common with the racists in
>> this group.
>
>So now I'm a racist for disagreeing with you?
>
>Pathetic... you truly are.

Do you have some other reason for helping them with their smear
campaign against me?
date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:33:22 +0100   author:   Spacker

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Spacker"  wrote in message 
news:8uvuc5lf9mvtg6khe22tar3n56o1h3hm4g@4ax.com...
> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
> wrote:
<snip>
>>So now I'm a racist for disagreeing with you?
>>
>>Pathetic... you truly are.
>
> Do you have some other reason for helping them with their smear
> campaign against me?

Try answering the question first.  If you're capable of that.

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date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:38:02 GMT   author:   Richard Colton usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
wrote:
 

>
>"Spacker"  wrote in message 
>news:8uvuc5lf9mvtg6khe22tar3n56o1h3hm4g@4ax.com...
>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
>> wrote:
><snip>
>>>So now I'm a racist for disagreeing with you?
>>>
>>>Pathetic... you truly are.
>>
>> Do you have some other reason for helping them with their smear
>> campaign against me?
>
>Try answering the question first.  If you're capable of that.

Are you saying you disagree with me?
date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:27:50 +0100   author:   Spacker

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Spacker"  wrote in message 
news:ulhvc5ht70hn0852u3k38dbi01nks42m8c@4ax.com...
> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>"Spacker"  wrote in message
>>news:8uvuc5lf9mvtg6khe22tar3n56o1h3hm4g@4ax.com...
>>> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
>>> wrote:
>><snip>
>>>>So now I'm a racist for disagreeing with you?
>>>>
>>>>Pathetic... you truly are.
>>>
>>> Do you have some other reason for helping them with their smear
>>> campaign against me?
>>
>>Try answering the question first.  If you're capable of that.
>
> Are you saying you disagree with me?

Are you saying you're incapable of answering such a simple question?

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date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:05:11 GMT   author:   Richard Colton usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> wrote 
in message news:XcQzm.1428$KR3.376@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> Are you saying you're incapable of answering such a simple question?


<pantomime>
Oh yes he is!
 ;0)

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date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:38:15 +0100   author:   Dr Zoidberg AlexNOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk

Richard Colton's Asian friends   
Spacker  wrote:
 
>>> What your Asian friends supposedly think of Spacker or others isn't really 
>>> germane to the argument, you know. Especially if they haven't read all the 
>>> posts here, including people like Humphries and Kraftee. Or are you saying 
>>> they've read all of them?
>>
>>Some have, others have little interest in the bickering, and others have no 
>>interest in computers or eBay.  I showed several of them this and a few 
>>other relevant threads, and every one of them came to the conclusion that 
>>Spacker is unhinged.
>
>What did they have to say about all the racist posts made in this
>group, and the people who made them? Did they think discussing how to
>stop "niggers" from buying from you on ebay, and the best way to
>murder ethnic minorities were suitable topics? Or did you not show
>them those posts for some mysterious reason?

Richard Colton seems to have ignored this question. How strange. Does
anyone have any theories why he would do that?
date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:07:56 +0100   author:   Spacker

Re: Richard Colton's Asian friends   
"Spacker"  wrote in message 
news:stp0d5drt595dejrlpmu4bljmi77oq3qvo@4ax.com...
> Spacker  wrote:
>
>>>> What your Asian friends supposedly think of Spacker or others isn't 
>>>> really
>>>> germane to the argument, you know. Especially if they haven't read all 
>>>> the
>>>> posts here, including people like Humphries and Kraftee. Or are you 
>>>> saying
>>>> they've read all of them?
>>>
>>>Some have, others have little interest in the bickering, and others have 
>>>no
>>>interest in computers or eBay.  I showed several of them this and a few
>>>other relevant threads, and every one of them came to the conclusion that
>>>Spacker is unhinged.
>>
>>What did they have to say about all the racist posts made in this
>>group, and the people who made them? Did they think discussing how to
>>stop "niggers" from buying from you on ebay, and the best way to
>>murder ethnic minorities were suitable topics? Or did you not show
>>them those posts for some mysterious reason?
>
> Richard Colton seems to have ignored this question.

No, I missed it in the multiple diatribes you've posted.

The ones I've asked believe it's petty, but also understand that there will 
always be a minority who are prepared to pick on any group that is different 
to them.  That doesn't make it right, but it is understandable given human 
nature.

> How strange.

How so?

> Does
> anyone have any theories why he would do that?

See above, but I still belive you're mentally unstable.

Some of us don't feel the need to hide behind made up email addresses and 
online personalities.  Why do you feel the need to do so?

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date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:22:14 GMT   author:   Richard Colton usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk

Re: Richard Colton's Asian friends   
"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
wrote:

> See above, but I still believe you're mentally unstable.

And then some.


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date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:26:05 +0100   author:   (The Older Gentleman)

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
wrote:

> I disagree with your vendetta

Which one? I think he's got half a dozen running at the moment.


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date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:26:06 +0100   author:   (The Older Gentleman)

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
In article <1j7e3iv.136qhyzh24nuoN%totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk>, The 
Older Gentleman says...
> 
> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
> wrote:
> 
> > I disagree with your vendetta
> 
> Which one? I think he's got half a dozen running at the moment.

Only half a dozen?
date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:43:22 GMT   author:   petrolcan

Re: Richard Colton's Asian friends   
In article <W16Am.1752$KR3.1377@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Richard 
Colton says...
> 
> "Spacker"  wrote in message 
> news:stp0d5drt595dejrlpmu4bljmi77oq3qvo@4ax.com...
> > Spacker  wrote:
> >
> >>>> What your Asian friends supposedly think of Spacker or others isn't 
> >>>> really
> >>>> germane to the argument, you know. Especially if they haven't read all 
> >>>> the
> >>>> posts here, including people like Humphries and Kraftee. Or are you 
> >>>> saying
> >>>> they've read all of them?
> >>>
> >>>Some have, others have little interest in the bickering, and others have 
> >>>no
> >>>interest in computers or eBay.  I showed several of them this and a few
> >>>other relevant threads, and every one of them came to the conclusion that
> >>>Spacker is unhinged.
> >>
> >>What did they have to say about all the racist posts made in this
> >>group, and the people who made them? Did they think discussing how to
> >>stop "niggers" from buying from you on ebay, and the best way to
> >>murder ethnic minorities were suitable topics? Or did you not show
> >>them those posts for some mysterious reason?
> >
> > Richard Colton seems to have ignored this question.
> 
> No, I missed it in the multiple diatribes you've posted.
> 
> The ones I've asked believe it's petty, but also understand that there will 
> always be a minority who are prepared to pick on any group that is different 
> to them.  That doesn't make it right, but it is understandable given human 
> nature.
> 
> > How strange.
> 
> How so?
> 
> > Does
> > anyone have any theories why he would do that?
> 
> See above, but I still belive you're mentally unstable.
> 
> Some of us don't feel the need to hide behind made up email addresses and 
> online personalities.  Why do you feel the need to do so?

Don't forget anonymous news servers that allow multiple personalities.
date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:43:24 GMT   author:   petrolcan

Re: Richard Colton's Asian friends   
"Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
wrote:
 

>
>"Spacker"  wrote in message 
>news:stp0d5drt595dejrlpmu4bljmi77oq3qvo@4ax.com...
>> Spacker  wrote:
>>
>>>>> What your Asian friends supposedly think of Spacker or others isn't 
>>>>> really
>>>>> germane to the argument, you know. Especially if they haven't read all 
>>>>> the
>>>>> posts here, including people like Humphries and Kraftee. Or are you 
>>>>> saying
>>>>> they've read all of them?
>>>>
>>>>Some have, others have little interest in the bickering, and others have 
>>>>no
>>>>interest in computers or eBay.  I showed several of them this and a few
>>>>other relevant threads, and every one of them came to the conclusion that
>>>>Spacker is unhinged.
>>>
>>>What did they have to say about all the racist posts made in this
>>>group, and the people who made them? Did they think discussing how to
>>>stop "niggers" from buying from you on ebay, and the best way to
>>>murder ethnic minorities were suitable topics? Or did you not show
>>>them those posts for some mysterious reason?
>>
>> Richard Colton seems to have ignored this question.
>
>No, I missed it in the multiple diatribes you've posted.
>
>The ones I've asked believe it's petty, but also understand that there will 
>always be a minority who are prepared to pick on any group that is different 
>to them.  That doesn't make it right, but it is understandable given human 
>nature.

And they still say I am wrong to oppose such people?

>
>> How strange.
>
>How so?
>
>> Does
>> anyone have any theories why he would do that?
>
>See above, but I still belive you're mentally unstable.
>
>Some of us don't feel the need to hide behind made up email addresses and 
>online personalities.  Why do you feel the need to do so?

Why do you want to know who I am? So that you can attack me for my
views?
date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:25:39 +0100   author:   Spacker

Re: Richard Colton's Asian friends   
"Spacker"  wrote in message 
news:5qu1d5h3m81snv93d4g8bs47osoi8m7cfu@4ax.com...
> "Richard Colton" <usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>"Spacker"  wrote in message
>>news:stp0d5drt595dejrlpmu4bljmi77oq3qvo@4ax.com...
>>> Spacker  wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> What your Asian friends supposedly think of Spacker or others isn't
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> germane to the argument, you know. Especially if they haven't read 
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> posts here, including people like Humphries and Kraftee. Or are you
>>>>>> saying
>>>>>> they've read all of them?
>>>>>
>>>>>Some have, others have little interest in the bickering, and others 
>>>>>have
>>>>>no
>>>>>interest in computers or eBay.  I showed several of them this and a few
>>>>>other relevant threads, and every one of them came to the conclusion 
>>>>>that
>>>>>Spacker is unhinged.
>>>>
>>>>What did they have to say about all the racist posts made in this
>>>>group, and the people who made them? Did they think discussing how to
>>>>stop "niggers" from buying from you on ebay, and the best way to
>>>>murder ethnic minorities were suitable topics? Or did you not show
>>>>them those posts for some mysterious reason?
>>>
>>> Richard Colton seems to have ignored this question.
>>
>>No, I missed it in the multiple diatribes you've posted.
>>
>>The ones I've asked believe it's petty, but also understand that there 
>>will
>>always be a minority who are prepared to pick on any group that is 
>>different
>>to them.  That doesn't make it right, but it is understandable given human
>>nature.
>
> And they still say I am wrong to oppose such people?

That isn't what I said.

>>
>>> How strange.
>>
>>How so?
>>
>>> Does
>>> anyone have any theories why he would do that?
>>
>>See above, but I still belive you're mentally unstable.
>>
>>Some of us don't feel the need to hide behind made up email addresses and
>>online personalities.  Why do you feel the need to do so?
>
> Why do you want to know who I am? So that you can attack me for my
> views?

Ok, I was wrong, you're mentally unstable and a troll.

The only person doing any attacking here is you.  I feel no need to hide 
behind a fictional personnae, and have the courage of my convictions - 
obviously you don't.

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date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:30:36 GMT   author:   Richard Colton usenet@ NO TINNED PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
Observer  wrote:

> 
> Fran, can I ask a straight question and be given a straight answer?
> 
> Why DO you champion Spacker? I'm very interested in the answer.
> 
You won't get one.

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date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:46:06 +0100   author:   (The Older Gentleman)

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
Observer  wrote:

<snip>

Let me guess at the answer.

You'll have had some guff about it being appalled, horrified, depressed,
whatever at the supposed racism.

And the issue of why it supports the other half of the Fracker entity's
outrageous lies[1] will have been ignored altogether.

What do I win?

[1] A union of racist posters allied against it, a gang of upce posters
uniting to support something BNP related, eBayer having been
blackmailed, other upce posters being threatened, fraud committed by
everyone except itself, its possession of emails that 'prove' its case
but which have never (oddly) materialised, etc etc ad nauseam.

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date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:06:21 +0100   author:   (The Older Gentleman)

Re: Vote for the most stupid poster on upce   
Crypto  wrote:

>  In
> Spacker's case I genuinely believe that he has serious mental health
> problems.  He appears to be locked into a closed, paranoid belief system.
> Any challenge to those beliefs is explained by him in terms of the beliefs
> being challenged.  He is completely unable to consider the possibility that
> his behaviour may have crossed the boundary from passionately held belief
> into paranoid fantasy. 

I think this is as neat and succinct a description as anyone could hope
for.


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date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:59:57 +0100   author:   (The Older Gentleman)

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