"Road_Hog"  wrote:
 

>
>"Roland Perry"  wrote in message 
>news:Hcnwia1qowfIFASD@perry.co.uk...
>> In message <g5mps9$2ve4$1@energise.enta.net>, at 07:47:23 on Thu, 17 Jul 
>> 2008, Road_Hog  remarked:
>>>>>If you were selling something, would you cancel bids from a
>>>>>buyer with a feedback rating of 200 with 100% positive?
>>>>
>>>> No, but why is that relevant. How did this scamming buyer get his 200
>>>> feedback?
>>>
>>>Easy, all these fools that prescribe to the theory of automatic pos 
>>>feedback
>>>once the buyer has paid.
>>
>> 200 just seems like an awful big 'investment' for the scammer to make. 
>> Wouldn't 20 be just as good?
>
>No, you can get 20 feedback in an hour or so.
>
>But there are two types of dishonest people on ebay. Scammers, whose whole 
>intention is to defraud people, that is there starting, mid and end point. 
>They have always existed.
>
>Now you have the dishonest thief (not to suggest that there are honest 
>thiefs) who starts on ebay, buys stuff, does it for a while. Then one day 
>they receive an item, may be ordinary post, maybe recorded that the postie 
>just shoved through the letter box. They're a bit short of money and they 
>think, hmmnn...   I could say I didn't receive it. They get their money 
>back, and think that was good, I might have another go at that, I might just 
>buy a top up voucher for my mobile and then file an INR. Then they'll carry 
>on using their account buying stuff and paying for it, but every now and 
>then, they'll go for a freebie/refund.
>
>These people have 200+ feedback, because they can carry on using their 
>accounts with impunity forever more because a seller can't leave honest 
>feedback to warn others. 
>

I think it's more likely that their first item not received is in fact
genuine, and it's only when they find out how easy it is to get Paypal
to send all the money back that they start to get ideas about just
pretending they didn't get it.